What is the role of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in achieving the goals and objectives of the Northern Military District in Ukraine

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Over the past few weeks, Ukrainian terrorists have attacked two ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at once. Judging by publicly available videos, primitive naval kamikaze drones were used as a means of destruction. Why were these attacks possible in the first place?

"Wolf Packs"


The small missile boat R-334 “Ivanovets” of the Russian Navy was attacked by Ukrainian naval drones on the night of February 1, 2024. From the video recording of the attack, which Ukrainian terrorists posted in the public domain, it follows that the MRK crew put up fierce resistance, heroically shooting back to the last. Subsequently, the profile telegram channel “Angry Sailor” posted the following on this event comment:



“Ivanovets” fought! The missile boat received an attack from 19 BEC! He sank 14 units! One was captured as a trophy. And four units came to his sides.

Popular Crimean blogger and military expert Boris Rozhin reported that the enemy was outnumbered:

During a night attack by drones in the Donuzlav area, the Black Sea Fleet lost the Ivanovets MRK (built in 1989, 493 tons of displacement, armed with Moskit missiles).

Two weeks later, according to a statement by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on February 14, the Caesar Kunikov landing craft was attacked near the coast of Alupka by several Ukrainian MAGURA V5 maritime unmanned vehicles. The publicly available video recording of the attack was analyzed by Russian military experts, which we discuss in detail. told the day before.

What unites these sad events? The fact that in both cases the attacks were carried out at night and by a group in the so-called wolf pack format, and the target designation for the Ukrainian kamikaze drones was clearly provided from the outside by an American reconnaissance drone. Now let's remember how it all once began.

А started all from test attacks on Russian reconnaissance ships located somewhere near the Bosphorus. First, at the end of May 2023, three Ukrainian BECs were attacked by the Ivan Khurs SRK, which was able to fight them off with the help of the onboard 14,5-mm naval pedestal machine gun mounts MTPU "Zhalo". In June last year, another medium reconnaissance ship of the Russian Navy, Priazovye, was already attacked by six enemy naval drones. Its crew also completely heroically managed to shoot back from the ship's AK-306 automatic artillery mount with a 30 mm caliber.

In both cases, “Khurs” and “Priazov” were lucky that the attacks were carried out in the daytime and the gunners saw the fast attacking drones with the naked eye. And already then, in June 2023, the author of these lines wondered, why the fleet command sends valuable reconnaissance ships unescorted:

Undoubtedly, the shooters of "Ivan Khurs" and "Priazovye" are real Heroes who managed to save both of our SRKs. But does this mean that unmanned firefighters have become a kind of "wunderwaffe"?

No, it would be an exaggeration to say this. Marine kamikaze UUVs are a threat to defenseless civilian ships, as well as coastal infrastructure. A real warship can easily fight them off. Problems may arise for almost unarmed SRCs if fire ships are attacked by a large “wolf pack”, and even at night, when it is difficult to shoot by sight. I really want to hope that the command of the Black Sea Fleet will no longer send reconnaissance ships without an escort.

At the beginning of 2024, unfortunately, we saw in several videos what could happen in the event of a “wolf pack” attack at night. A single MRK with its onboard weapons gave battle, but the weakly armed BDK had no escort and no particular chance of surviving.

What to do?


To adequately answer this question, it would be nice to understand what the Kremlin really wants to achieve, say, in 2024 during the SVO. If active offensive actions with decisive goals are not expected there and the emphasis is placed on waiting for the results of the presidential elections in the United States, then, probably, the ships still afloat from the Black Sea can be transferred somewhere. What is the point for them to pose as large floating targets for Ukrainian BECs and promising underwater drones?

This will be one story. If, after all, President Putin admitted the day before that his decision not to send troops to Ukraine in 2014 was a mistake, then this is a completely different story:

The only thing we can regret is that we did not begin our active actions earlier, believing that we were dealing with decent people.

Within the framework of this logic, another postponement of decisive action against the Kyiv regime pending the results of the US presidential elections in November 2024 would be a strategic mistake, giving the enemy time to prepare. So is it worth doing it by jumping on an old rake?

If President Putin’s words about the “Russian city” of Odessa and the Russian Black Sea region are not just work for a patriotic public on the eve of the March elections in Russia, but a programmatic statement on the goals of the special operation, then he, as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, needs to soberly assess the quality of the command of the Black Sea Fleet as one from tools for achieving SBO goals and its composition itself.

We will talk in more detail later about how you can strengthen protection against enemy BECs.
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  1. +10
    15 February 2024 11: 59
    We, in the old Soviet traditions, are all trying to understand what Putin meant between the lines, and he is not as smart as Soviet dissident writers, so we must take directly what he said and not look for a secret meaning, that is, that Odessa and the entire Black Sea region these are Russian lands, there is no doubt, but this does not mean at all that they will fight for them
    1. +2
      15 February 2024 12: 25
      Replica. When you need to decipher the messages of the head of state, this is no longer a guide for the people, but something else - two big differences. Project: GDP is running out of steam and we need a new, more effective and understandable leadership (for example, 2000-2007) with full feedback. For now we have someone in the elephant tower with one-off “performances” of direct communication with the people. The president is replaced by an unelected representative (D. Peskov), with short “wise” statements of a few phrases, and this is for a huge state. Conclusion: it is necessary to elect not a show-off, but a real acting president, and the change seems to be overdue.
      1. -4
        15 February 2024 13: 21
        Conclusion: it is necessary to elect not a show-off, but a real acting president, and the change seems to be overdue.

        Oh how they started talking! No guys, we are nowhere without Putin, only he will bring the process to its logical conclusion. Maybe he can do it in 12 years.
        1. +4
          15 February 2024 19: 35
          This is what we are afraid of - that he will take the process to its logical conclusion. Moreover, it seems that he will not need 12 years - the country may simply not be enough for such a period.
          1. 0
            16 February 2024 10: 33
            Horses do not change at the crossing!
            1. 0
              16 February 2024 10: 34
              If the horse does not pull, then everyone drowns at this very crossing.
          2. +2
            16 February 2024 10: 41
            Every end has a beginning. And every beginning has an end. So that was already the beginning. Haven't you noticed? And they are afraid it’s too late. Replacing the driver will not help this train.
        2. +1
          17 February 2024 09: 04
          Time will only put everything in its place, dear. But I like the way you think.
      2. +1
        16 February 2024 09: 24
        Not for show, Prigozhin was killed
        1. +1
          17 February 2024 09: 11
          With His silent consent. It's hard to believe He didn't have a hand in this. It is clear that rebels are always dangerous for the authorities. Suffice it to recall the methods of government that Ivan the Terrible did not hesitate to use.
    2. 0
      17 February 2024 00: 01
      ...But this does not mean at all that they will fight for them

      Time will tell whether they will fight or not. If only so that in the future there will be no sabotage and terrorist attacks on our ships in the Black Sea.
      Consequently, Odessa and the entire Black Sea region must return to Russia.
      1. 0
        17 February 2024 09: 15
        Cool, you're talking, notifying us of what will happen in the future. Respect, hats off!
  2. +4
    15 February 2024 12: 16
    Judging by what is happening, the leadership of our Armed Forces does not need him.
  3. +5
    15 February 2024 12: 40
    The fact that “Ivanovna” fought well is good, but he couldn’t fight back because you can’t fight off a swarm of wasps, but

    But does this mean that unmanned fire ships have become a kind of “wunderwaffe”?

    No, it would be an exaggeration to say this. Marine kamikaze UUVs are a threat to defenseless civilian ships, as well as coastal infrastructure.

    - this still means that the Black Sea Fleet became prodigies, because the Black Sea Fleet, nevertheless, had to hide, but why can’t these drones be pinned down by electronic warfare systems? - then just tow them to your base? And further -

    The only thing we can regret is that we did not begin our active actions earlier, believing that we were dealing with decent people.

    - Where did you find decent people among Bandera’s followers? - name at least one!
    1. +4
      15 February 2024 13: 18
      this still means that the Black Sea Fleet became prodigies, because the Black Sea Fleet, nevertheless, had to hide

      He hides from anti-ship missiles and ballistic missiles. BECs can be beaten if the service is properly organized. That’s why all the complaints are against Sokolov.

      but why can’t these drones be pinned down by electronic warfare systems? - then just tow them to your base?

      This is how they are controlled from satellites

      where did you find decent people among Bandera’s followers? - name at least one!

      He meant those with whom he wants to be friends in the West. He really wants it.
      1. 0
        15 February 2024 15: 16
        and that the satellite signal cannot be intercepted? Not convincing.
      2. 0
        17 February 2024 09: 22
        Petukhov is a traitor to the Motherland. There are many of those. If Stalin finds out what is going on in Russia, he will resurrect soon!
    2. +1
      15 February 2024 13: 45
      How could sea drones even get into the Donuzlavsky Bay? Were there no mesh barriers there?
  4. +11
    15 February 2024 12: 43
    Judging by the losses, the Black Sea Fleet is still acting as a target for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  5. +8
    15 February 2024 13: 02
    There are no considerations regarding drones and their destruction. The only thing that comes to mind is the destruction of the production of these drones on land. To do this, it is necessary to have reconnaissance and sabotage groups on the territory of Ukraine. I don't think there are any. I compare the number of sabotages on our land and the number of them in Ukraine. In Ukraine it is zero. Interesting preparation for surgery. In 2014, we were obliged to leave our cells. All this talk about believing in their integrity is either for children or for hysterical women. Life will teach us every day. Less pathos, more action. Greatness does not require exaltation.
    1. +1
      15 February 2024 13: 30
      Place nets around the ships and attach “barbecues” to the hull. At least in a parking lot it can help in movement. Until the jumpers come up with an idea
  6. +5
    15 February 2024 13: 04
    We have already lost several of our ships, and there is still no reaction, maybe it’s time to urgently pay close attention to this and finally draw all the necessary conclusions, directly connecting our military-industrial complex to a quick and effective solution to this problem, and for greater effect it is necessary to change the leadership of the Black Sea Fleet, it seems that they are not very concerned about these problems.
  7. +9
    15 February 2024 13: 48
    Why were these attacks possible in the first place?

    Because they are afraid to shoot down American and British air raiders. Why can't an unidentified drone shoot down an American drone in the neutral waters of the Black Sea? Maybe the Houthis started it?
    1. +1
      16 February 2024 11: 49
      Well, first of all, this American drone operates at an altitude of about 16 km. Second: the range to it is such that missiles cannot be reached from our territory, but we must work from neutral space. Third: the American conducts reconnaissance of the operation of our radio equipment, plus side surveillance of the water area and sends all the information very far away, and control is already carried out from this far away by the Ukrainians and then by sea drones through Starlink satellites.

      Now the question is: what was our landing craft doing abeam Yalta, standing at anchor and sparkling with lights like a Christmas tree. Although even if it moved a little and maneuvered, the Ukrainians would have additional problems with guidance.
      Next: where were the means of monitoring the water area? The boats reached the target in about 15 hours at low speed so as not to give away the foamy trail. But there was no storm there and the boats were quite detectable even with such movement. And part of the time they walked in the daytime.
      Next: what did the watch and observers on board do? There is a man standing there in the area of ​​the bow. Although the drones were already close and nothing depended on the observers, although the artillery systems could somehow try to destroy them with their fire. It seems that the dumbest people, led by their commander, were gathered on the landing craft.
      1. -1
        16 February 2024 11: 56
        Well, I'll add it. Even I noticed that if Hawk appears in the sky, expect trouble from the Ukrainians in the near future and put everything possible into combat readiness with maximum strengthening of surveillance of the sea and air environment. And this depends on the commander of the Black Sea Fleet.
        He was removed from his position and an internal investigation is being carried out into why this happened and who made what mistakes.
        Well, besides, our hands are free and we can supply anti-ship missiles and naval drones to the Houthis. The actions are similar to the Americans in Ukraine and there is nothing to complain about.
        We are waiting for the sinking of American and British destroyers in the Red Sea.
      2. +1
        16 February 2024 20: 57
        Apart from all sorts of drones and Starlinks, their guarantors have no right not to answer questions - and this is even more important. For a quarter of a century now, all our questions have been asked somewhere in outer space.
      3. 0
        17 February 2024 09: 37
        The way it is. AMEN
  8. +7
    15 February 2024 14: 05
    soberly assess the quality of command of the Black Sea Fleet

    If you change, it means admitting that for two years in the Northern Military District (and before that) these commanders were bad. Who appointed them? Nobody wants to admit their own mistakes.
    1. 0
      16 February 2024 12: 07
      May you be judged by his deeds.
      They try to appoint the best ones in terms of the conditions of staff games and the conduct of exercises. Where else can you get them for command? Shot at? But this does not always pay off. Although, for one beaten, they give two unbeaten. Many great and famous military leaders, before becoming them, suffered defeats or troubles from the enemy.
      Although if you think that you can, you can offer yourself.
  9. +5
    15 February 2024 14: 43
    If the goal is the controlled killing of the country under the cover of stultifying schizophrenic-patriotic rhetoric, then everything is going according to plan. Against the backdrop of epic failures in all vital areas, the guarantor arrogated to himself the right not to answer questions and not to participate in pre-election debates. Apparently, this does not cause rejection among the majority of the population and, in general, is perpendicular to their worldview. The majority also do not understand the Russophobic essence of his anti-Soviet rants. As is the parish, so is the priest. There is a price to pay for the sleep of the mind.
    1. 0
      16 February 2024 12: 10
      You will return from abroad. Then we’ll talk about him and his rants. After all, that’s what your training manual says about Putin - scold him everywhere and always.
  10. +1
    15 February 2024 16: 22
    I think it is necessary to fundamentally change approaches to the fleet, relying on the wise ideas of Admiral Makarov, Dushenov, Kozhanov, Lurdi, Admiral Amelko, that is, the ideas of the “young school”, miniaturization of surface ships, the development of the underwater component as the main one, coastal assets and aviation, within of this paradigm, all surface ships of the first and second rank should be transferred from closed seas to the oceans, ships of the third rank should be equipped with trivial and simple large-caliber machine guns to combat drones and be equipped with electronic warfare equipment and low search locators, temporarily stop laying down new frigates, corvettes, and small missiles , and start production of the Karakurt plo and air defense aircraft and the Be200 plo aircraft with pre-installed anti-drone equipment, continue the active laying of submarines and minesweepers, and also equip minesweepers with anti-drone equipment
    1. 0
      16 February 2024 12: 20
      You're right. We have already started. But it will take some time. It's like in the beginning with a UAV. Almost nothing at all and now large-scale production of many types. But even small ships are not small UAVs. They will set up production, re-equip or are already re-equipping or re-equipping what they have with additional radars and modules to counter new threats. The possibilities of war at sea during such operations have changed dramatically.
      I think it’s not worth throwing shit at the fan, no one will appreciate it. This is about those who write here about our elite and often scold those who are not the ones who actually made a mistake or made the wrong decision because of which losses occurred. Although, yes, if they pay money for swearing, then of course, why not fulfill the order.
      1. 0
        18 February 2024 14: 36
        I agree that the indiscriminate abuse of the government of its state is a sin, especially since the bashing pugs judge by their own assumptions, do not cite specific facts, and themselves do not know the situation at the top, if I don’t know, then I remain silent, if I assume, then I write “allegedly” and anything else is called a lie
  11. DO
    +7
    15 February 2024 18: 04
    We will talk in more detail later about how you can strengthen protection against enemy BECs.

    Protection from BECs is simple - patrolling the far zone of the water area with reconnaissance UAVs + duty fighters, patrolling the near zone with helicopters. Plus adequate equipment of the protected ships themselves, protective fencing.
    But we see something completely different - the ships of the Black Sea Fleet, with tenacity worthy of better use, for some reason find themselves at night completely alone on the open sea, surrounded by a “wolf pack,” poorly armed, with no chance of survival. It seems that the problem is not technical at all, but purely personnel.
  12. +4
    16 February 2024 01: 29
    One gets the impression that the leadership of the Russian Navy and Black Sea Fleet has somehow relaxed, because:
    1. The entire burden of air defense lies with the ground forces
    2. Black Sea Fleet ships removed almost everything from Crimea
    3. The Black Sea Fleet has the task of protecting its bases and partly Crimea.
    And then there were some failures in Berdyansk, then in Feodosia, then with the cruiser, then with the SRK and BDK, then it flew to fleet headquarters...
    Yes, military actions bring mistakes, but they are studied and remedies are found. Just 10 years ago, Ukraine trumpeted to the whole world about wolfish mosquito packs of boats and our admirals only grinned, this is Ukrainian insanity and they will not do anything against our powerful fleet. They didn’t even appreciate the danger of this idea. What's wrong with our Black Sea Fleet and admirals? Is it possible that the warm climate and warm sea dilute their ability to actively work to adapt the fleet to real modern combat operations? The Black Sea Fleet is participating in the Northern Military District, but we know little positive about it - mostly about missile attacks, but there seems to be a lot of negative stuff - about lost ships.
  13. 0
    16 February 2024 02: 19
    He thought that he was dealing with decent people, but he was deceived! Just like that.
    1. +2
      16 February 2024 10: 38
      That is, he thought that he was starting a military action against decent people? Obviously, if he had known about their dishonesty, he would not have started any SVO? Look what it's like!
    2. -1
      16 February 2024 11: 53
      Of course they are decent. Well, just think, several dozen people in Odessa were burned, just think, they threw molotovs at Berkut. Well, they shouted “Moskalyak to Gilyak”, so what, they are decent.
    3. 0
      19 February 2024 10: 52
      a politician always tries to solve everything without war in order to save the lives of soldiers, this is correct, then he will begin to publicly point out that the enemies are dishonest and vile, this is also correct, for example, the great Stalin tried to delay the war with the help of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, or better yet cancel the war, it did not work .... the fault lies not with Stalin, but with Hitler, the fault lies not with Putin, but with the collective West.. Putin took all the measures he could to prevent blood from flowing, and even more than possible, and now it is necessary to go to Uzhgrod to burn it out with a hot iron all the Ukrainian-fascist vermin and so that the peace will last, and not until the next pumping of weapons into Ukraine

  14. 0
    16 February 2024 07: 21
    At the beginning of 2014, as a result of the events in Ukraine, a window of historical opportunities opened for the Russian Federation, which Moscow predictably missed by seizing Crimea and for some reason deciding that Kyiv would wipe out, by the summer the Kremlin had neither the choice nor the opportunity to work beautifully.
    The march on Kyiv on February 24, as we understand today, was a pure gamble, but nevertheless, a window of opportunity has opened again for Moscow, if they choose other priorities and strategy. Again, this window closed by summer and is unlikely to open in the foreseeable future.
    Mr. Marzhetsky is in vain entertaining himself with goals and objectives that are impossible for the Russian Federation. If the RF Armed Forces have some operational (and even theoretically strategic) capabilities on the left bank, then the right bank is a priori inaccessible to Moscow.
    The Russian Armed Forces may well take Avdeevka, Mikhailovka, Kupyanski and other similar things without any special consequences for themselves and the company as a whole, but an attempt to identify a threat to any regional center will be perceived by the West as unacceptable with an appropriate reaction.
    Twice Providence gave Moscow a historic chance)), followed by a dead end, senseless destruction and bloodshed on both sides. In such a situation, there is no other solution other than freezing the conflict for decades.
    1. 0
      16 February 2024 10: 48
      So the enemy now does not agree to a freeze at the current LBS. In order to convince him of its desirability and lack of alternative, it is necessary either to achieve success on the battlefield, and significantly more than squeezing out the Avdeevka garrison after several months of fighting, or at least its encirclement and defeat, or marking time for at least another year.
      Well, do something with the Black Sea Fleet, which now successfully solves only one task - increasing the morale of Ukrainians, their confidence in their victory. I have now begun to better understand why the Black Sea Fleet has already been self-flooded more than once - this simply resulted in fewer image losses. than from the use of the fleet in hostilities. As an unanswered target.
    2. -3
      16 February 2024 12: 43
      Moscow did not miss anything in 2014. It was simply not clear how the referendums would be held in these unrecognized republics, which had not yet been formed, and it was not clear at all who the population there was for. Although the North Wind helped to avoid their defeat then. But then our country was not ready as it is now, our economy was not ready... We would simply have collapsed from sanctions. And so, look, we are developing to the envy of the West. And the West is stagnating. And then the former hegemon, the USA, is helping to strangle its “friends” in NATO in order to stay afloat. Well, God help him.
      Well, here our people, Russia, are being criticized by those who chose the wrong side or by outright enemies. Is it true?
    3. 0
      17 February 2024 18: 46
      What does the West have to do with it? Which of our leaders has ever said that they take into account the opinion of the West when conducting military operations? Or when did the yelping of the West stop something?
    4. 0
      19 February 2024 11: 16
      1. the Ukrainian people are to blame, lazy and cowardly in many ways, they allowed fascism,
      2 the occupation of Crimea was forced by measures, otherwise there would have been a NATO base in Sevastopol long ago.....
      3 residents of Donbass did not fight against the fascists, and helped the brave Russian Volunteers in 2014 who began to save them from fascism, one resident of Donbass said to my friend “you come and fight, and I’ll drink beer,” and why should the Russians do it? fight and die for those who, because of vodka and stupidity, do not want to oppose fascism?
      4, the intensity of anti-Russian hysteria created by the manipulating media in the stupid heads of the pot-heads was much higher in 2014 than in 2022, accordingly in 2014 it would have been heavier and the Russian Federation did not have as many weapons and there would not have been an independent payment system in the world (that is, there would have been a collapse of the economy) for 8 years Russia has prepared for its
      The 5th rush to Kyiv 2022 was the last chance for the Ukrainian people to come to their senses and greet the returning Russian government with flowers, they didn’t take advantage.....now they are destined for millions of losses of the stupid brainwashed population and destroyed cities, right up to the tiao in Lvov
  15. +3
    16 February 2024 08: 54
    What is the role of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in achieving the goals and objectives of the Northern Military District in Ukraine? Toothless target!
    Okay, not a product yet. Not sold as aircraft to the enemy. ...among these dozens of aircraft exported from Russia according to a cunning scheme, there is also an Il-76 - an aircraft that is of strategic importance during armed conflicts... The source said that three Mi-8 helicopters sold according to the same cunning scheme "were accepted participation in the air defense on the enemy side...
  16. +7
    16 February 2024 10: 29
    Ukrainian terrorists?? For the blind and narrow-minded... we are at war with a regular army!! As time has shown, a very trained and persistent army... terrorists of the last...
    1. +4
      16 February 2024 10: 58
      Well, Marzhetsky called the military men who carried out a successful and effective strike on their enemy’s warship terrorists, and it seems that he has already half-solved the problem. From the same opera, when for some reason regular army soldiers are called militants. Is this some kind of kindergarten teaser or something? Isn't it time to grow up and learn to fight, instead of inventing new names for the enemy?
      However, in the central media at the federal level they have made it even simpler - they practically completely ignore this “insignificant” event, so those citizens who draw information about the world around them from Channel 1 programs are most likely not at all aware that it is already 5- th the large landing ship was destroyed. They hardly even know about the previous 4. Information policy, which many remember from the times of the USSR. But in the end it did not save the USSR.
      1. +1
        16 February 2024 11: 36
        You better grow up. finally, go serve your country. We definitely won’t be able to cope without you at the front.

        I received it from Marzhetsky in a personal message, and since this gentleman closed the opportunity to answer him there, I’ll have to do it here.
        You see, after all, those who cannot sleep or eat should go first to the front (by the way, there have already been cases in modern law enforcement practice when people were fined for calling LBS a front, so be careful!) returned to their home harbor. You, as I understand it, are just like that, I would be glad to have such a return, but I am able to continue living without it. So I can ask you - why are you, so patriotic, still not in the trenches? But your similar question sounds stupid to me. At least of the two of us, you should be the first to sign up as a volunteer.
        PS And if you like to write in private, then at least open the opportunity to answer you, otherwise it turns out to be quite childish. A kindergartener's dream is simple - you call him names, but they can't answer you. Does this turn you on?
        1. -1
          17 February 2024 12: 47
          Because I am more effective in my position. I am a person with three higher educations who is more useful to my country and its army, working in the media and giving an adequate picture than running with a machine gun on the front line. And if someone had listened to my analytics since 2014, such garbage would not have happened.
          No, it doesn't start. But you feel firsthand what it’s like to read comments and not be able to respond. Like?
          The problem in our country is that it is considered very smart to advise others to mind their own business. If everyone in their place in Russia had gone about their business well, Kyiv and Odessa would have returned to their native harbor in 2014 without bloodshed.
          I trumpeted the fact that there will be a war on all platforms. If you're interested, for example, here
          https://topwar.ru/74309-posmotri-rekviem-po-novorossii.html?ysclid=lspv92fs7w689295275
          Read what hataskrayniks like you wrote then. This is May 2015, when I had already given up on everything from powerlessness.
          And even BEFORE the start of the SVO, he publicly warned what the war would turn into if you take it lightly
          https://topcor.ru/23689-smozhet-li-rossija-oderzhat-pobedu-v-borbe-za-ukrainu.html
          https://topcor.ru/23911-vsu-mogut-ustroit-rossijskoj-armii-polupartizanskuju-vojnu.html?ysclid=lspv8vysmc58365530
          Was someone listening to me?
          So, unlike you, hataskrayniks, I have every moral right to send people like you, those liable for military service (you are liable for military service?) to the front. Is my position clear?

          I received this letter from him and was completely perplexed: what kind of position can one even understand here? Who gave him the right to send someone somewhere? If he himself is not liable for military service (and on what basis?), then not only does he not have the moral right to send someone to the front, but he does not even have the moral right to touch on this issue, to discuss this topic, so as not to disgrace himself. And who stopped him and is stopping him from responding to comments? Maybe he is not aware that the author of the article also has the opportunity to comment and, accordingly, respond to comments?
          PS Don’t write to me in a personal message - I’ll post it in the public domain anyway - unlike you, I have nothing to hide, and I try to follow the precepts of Peter the Great - “so that everyone’s stupidity is visible.”
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          3. -1
            19 February 2024 10: 23
            For some reason, everyone considers themselves smarter than others. Analysts were divided into managers and economists. These people sit in the Duma and fight for raising the retirement age. A year and a half ago, Marzhetsky argued to me in all seriousness that Ukraine was kaput. Now these analysts are arguing for continuing the war to a victorious end, but they don’t say how they are going to take major cities. Turn Odessa into Mariupol or what? A simple calculation shows that having an army of 500 thousand people, and losing 100 people a day, after 3 years there will be little left of the army. This means there will be a new mobilization, a shortage of workers and the replacement of the population with migrants. It was hard to think of anything worse than starting your own. Another problem here is that the database has shown the inability of air defense to detect small targets, which means there is a temptation to deliver a disarming strike with the NATO bloc
  17. +2
    16 February 2024 11: 50
    Floating boom-type minefields for the duration of the ship's stay at night, an automatic Gatling turret, an all-angle radar on the mast.
    Or a bunch of guys with slingshots on their sides.
  18. +2
    16 February 2024 15: 09
    Why can’t ours fight back?! I’m tired of these rantings: either there are no booms, then the booms are not closed, then the air defense systems can’t see the missiles around the corner, then in Syria there were no attack warning systems on planes and helicopters, or there is still no water area tracking system in Crimea (they can’t hang the balloons, and during the Second World War they somehow managed to get it over Moscow))))!!!.
  19. 0
    17 February 2024 00: 48
    What is the role? I'll tell you now if anyone doesn't understand. This is one matelot after another to follow to the bottom of this very Black Sea...
  20. +4
    17 February 2024 01: 35
    The only thing we can regret is that we did not begin our active actions earlier, believing that we were dealing with decent people.

    The word is not a sparrow, no one pulled the tongue. If, after all, President Putin admitted that his decision not to send troops to Ukraine in 2014 was a mistake, then he should release Girkin-Strelkov from a general regime colony (after all, Girkin turned out to be right!), and think about who should really in fact, to go to trial “... for improper performance of official duties...” And it’s also good to think about the judges and investigators in the Girkin case: whether they correspond to the position they hold and whether their actions contain elements of a crime. And do this as quickly as possible, because the person is not guilty of anything, preferably even before the elections, otherwise the people will not understand what Girkin’s crime is, otherwise the presidential elections will turn out to be a farce, worthy of a Ukrainian circus. Well, something like this.
    1. -1
      17 February 2024 13: 11
      Release? It’s as if his health didn’t deteriorate sharply, even before the elections.
  21. +1
    17 February 2024 06: 06
    The role of this fleet is unclear, as is the future of the former Soviet republics. For, it is not clear what they are striving for, those who have been leading the people for thirty years along the path to an unknown destination, those sitting at the levers of control, the former poor, who have become rich.
  22. -2
    17 February 2024 13: 57
    Sergey Evgenievich, You do not leave readers indifferent, thank you. Yes
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  23. 0
    17 February 2024 17: 22
    I think the author posed the question incorrectly. In my opinion, it is correct to ask the Black Sea Fleet command how the destruction of the ships will affect the supply of the Syrian group. What will be the new Caspian-Iran route?
    1. 0
      17 February 2024 17: 48
      We need to be more insightful and think about what kind of fleet there will be tomorrow.
      PS I am sure that the Kursk boat was sunk by British drones. Putin came and the boat sank to the bottom. How Vladimir Vladimirovich resolved that situation will be written later.
  24. 0
    17 February 2024 18: 39
    The BDK was armed with 2 twin 57mm anti-aircraft guns and could have fought off drones if it had had a modern radar instead of the antediluvian one from Soviet times and modern night vision devices. The watchmen along the sides with machine guns on turrets and with helmet-mounted night vision devices could well have shot at least 20 backs or 30, but apparently they simply weren’t there.