Why Russian SRKs are forced to shoot back from sea drones alone

On the eve it became known about another attack by Ukrainian naval drones on another Russian reconnaissance ship. This time there were not three, but six, however, the crew of the SRK of the Russian Navy showed heroism and once again saved a valuable warship from destruction. Turning in absentia to the command of the Black Sea Fleet, I would like to ask only one thing - how long?

Shaw, again?

The attack on a Russian medium reconnaissance ship was reported by the Russian Defense Ministry as follows:

Today, at about 1:30 Moscow time, the armed forces of Ukraine made an unsuccessful attempt to attack the Black Sea Fleet's ship "Priazovie" with six sea-going unmanned boats (...) In the course of repelling the attack, all boats were destroyed by fire from standard weapons.

A video was also attached to the message of Shoigu’s department, in which it was clear, as in the daytime, how the artillery installations of the SRK literally smash enemy unmanned boats with aimed fire. At the same time, it is emphasized that a strategic reconnaissance UAV of the US Air Force RQ-4B "Global Hawk" hung in the night sky over the Black Sea, apparently giving target designation data for Ukrainian naval drones. Commentary on the incident focused the audience on the role that the American drone could play, and there were calls for it to be drowned. However, the author of these lines would like to focus on something else.

Why the hell is the second Russian reconnaissance ship, practically defenseless, roaming alone where it can be attacked by Ukrainian drones?

Recall that at the end of May 2023, near the coast of Turkey attack of three Ukrainian unmanned boats, stuffed with explosives, like firewalls, the most modern Russian medium reconnaissance ship "Ivan Khurs" was exposed. According to the official version of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the SRK carried out the task of protection of underwater gas pipelines Turkish Stream and Blue Stream. Let me self-quote:

What did the decision makers do with their army of true experts, analysts and other predictors? They sent to the Turkish exclusive economic to protect the zone from Ukrainian terrorists with a practically unarmed ship. Yes, the Ivan Khurs is precisely a reconnaissance ship, not a combat one, which has only four 14,5-mm MTPU Sting mounts for self-defense, and Igla MANPADS and "Verba". The fact that our sailors were able to fight back and got off so lightly is a manifestation of their personal heroism and great luck. But what if the enemy had sent not three, but thirty-three naval kamikaze drones? The answer is very depressing: another Russian warship could be at the bottom of the Black Sea.

In fact, the crew of "Ivan Khurs" had to shoot back from enemy firefighters rushing towards him from pedestal machine guns, from which you can aim, as they say, by eye. The answer to the question of what would happen if it happened at night, when nothing was visible, and there were an order of magnitude more attacking drones, was not received. It seems that the command of the Black Sea Fleet decided to test this empirically by sending another SRK there, and again without an escort ship.

The fact that "Priazovie" was in the same place where "Ivan Khurs" was earlier, told the publication Lenta.ru report a well-known military expert, captain of the first rank of the reserve Vasily Dandykin.
This is the second case. The ship was in the same zone as the Ivan Khurs. [The task of the ship] is to ensure the [security] of two gas pipelines - the "Blue" and "Turkish" streams. This ship is quite modern, although it was built back in Soviet times. This is a medium reconnaissance ship, its task is to keep track of a potential enemy. He participated in peacekeeping operations, and it was here that he replaced Ivan Khurs. In terms of weapons, it will be more powerful.

Sorry, but the assertion that the Azov Sea is more powerful than the Khurs is rather controversial. Yes, the 306 mm AK-30 automatic artillery mount with one AO-18L six-barreled rotating gun is more impressive than a 14,5 mm machine gun, but, in general, this is not serious! This artillery complex does not even have a radar fire control system, and the “air defense system” is represented by the Igla MANPADS with an ammunition load of 16 missiles. The reconnaissance ship is almost unarmed, its air defense is very conditional. And despite this, our few SRKs are driven again and again in splendid isolation to where they are attacked time after time. How long?!

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For the first time, Ivan Khurs was attacked by three sea drones, and for the second time, six unmanned boats attacked the Azov Sea. What's next? The third time there will be nine, twelve, or thirty-three at once? And what if, in addition to the firewalls, the attack involves, say, a MiG-29 fighter, taking off from an airfield somewhere in Romania?

Let's say right away that the meeting of any SRK with a single aircraft carrying missiles on a suspension will definitely not end in anything good. He will not be able to either bring it down or intercept the fired missiles. Why does the command of the Black Sea Fleet learn nothing at all and, with perseverance worthy of a better application, try the luck of the crews of our few reconnaissance ships?

You don't have to be an admiral to understand that you can't send SRKs unaccompanied to where they can be attacked and easily destroyed by an enemy that has superior space and air reconnaissance capabilities. The Black Sea has long needed corvette-class ships, which are almost ideal for reconnaissance as an escort and can perform a wide range of tasks. IN new geopolitical realities after Finland joins the NATO bloc, it will be expedient to transfer all four corvettes from the Baltic Sea to other fleets, and the Black Sea fleet seems to be a priority at the moment. There is an urgent need for at least a couple of ships of this class, otherwise our naval commanders will "experiment."
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  1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 June 2023 16: 51
    The attack on the Azov SRK was carried out 80 km northeast of the Turkish Sinop, this is the economic zone of Turkey, from Sevastopol in a straight line 300 km, from Odessa more than 600 km. Where did these boats come from? 1.From Turkey. 2. Dropped a passing ship from the Bosphorus into Georgia. A direct NATO attack on the Russian Federation is clearly visible.
  2. ksa Offline ksa
    ksa 12 June 2023 17: 22
    After these two cases, the task of guarding the pipe should be handed over to the Turks. I think that the Turks will understand and agree. Nobody will attack Turkish ships.
    1. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
      Vlad Burchilo (Vlad Burchilo) 13 June 2023 08: 27
      And sign your byssilii?
  3. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 12 June 2023 19: 09
    First of all, you need to find out where these drone boats are going. If in Turkey, then claims against them. If in Ukraine, then it is necessary to clarify the place of manufacture ... They will continue to carry out attacks. You can't pick them up in a garage. That means a factory. We won't be doing arithmetic soon. We go into prostration.
  4. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 12 June 2023 20: 09
    Good idea about corvettes, but there is a problem with the Bosphorus. I don’t know about it now, but last year the Turks banned the passage of warships through the strait
    1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
      Dart2027 12 June 2023 21: 21
      Quote from borisvt
      but there is a problem with the Bosphorus

      According to the mind, then the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet need to be completed from ships that will calmly pass along the inland sea lanes. Project 20380, with its maximum draft of almost 8 meters, needs to be heavily reworked and a separate series should be built just for them.
  5. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
    Vlad Burchilo (Vlad Burchilo) 13 June 2023 09: 20
    The author doesn't think what he says. BF, one of the weakest.
    On the site: "Military Thought" offer: due to the geographical features of the Baltic Sea, there are many islands and shallows, it needs to be Reinforced with corvettes, project 20380m, minesweepers, such as "Alexandrite"
    By the way, they are being built now, but not enough. Not enough modern engines. In the Soviet Union, only the Zaporizhzhya PO "Motorostroitel" produced modern gas turbine engines.
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 13 June 2023 21: 47
      judging by your words, parquet colonels (under the guise of caprazes) dug in on the site of military thought, in any case, they obviously do not understand anything about the fleet and water areas (although they are probably well versed in various types of dovostlviy and cuts), BF due to geographical features, in general, it is necessary not to strengthen, but to disband, to turn the base in Baltiysk into a logistics center, to bring all corvettes and frigates and the destroyer to the Northern Fleet, and all other ships to Kronstadt .... the problem of reconnaissance ships attacked by drones, this is a problem in the heads of parquet admirals who created a completely incompetent fleet, In addition to submarines, almost all the funds of multibillion-dollar shipbuilding programs were thrown away for nothing, First of all, billions were cut into an avalanche carrier that is meaningless for the Russian Federation, without tasks, without cover by frigates, surface ships are unsuitable for closed seas, the frigate program should only concern the mind ocean fleets, they will not survive in the open sea, however, we have as many as 5 frigates on our Black Sea Fleet, which, of course, cannot save a reconnaissance ship because they themselves are the target, on the BF in general, a completely unnecessary fleet (due to its geographical features), 4 corvettes and a couple of frigates hang out even the destroyer is very necessary in Kamchatka and the north. How to protect Ivan Khurs? there is almost nothing, the gunboats Buyan M and Karakurt, made in a naive impulse to bypass the RMSD, have minesweeper anti-unmanned weapons, because they don’t shoot at drones with calibers, .... there are almost no minesweepers at all, so the fleet can neither go to sea nor enter ... it is necessary to bring all the ships of the second rank and the Varangians to the oceans, and for the closed seas to make a PLO air defense karakurt, ...... only Soviet MPKs, which remain in small numbers so far, and a few minesweepers can now protect Ivan Khurs
      1. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
        Vlad Burchilo (Vlad Burchilo) 28 July 2023 07: 37
        Actually, Nikita "corn" suggested something similar: to build submarines, boats: "river-sea" of the "gadfly" type
        1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 28 July 2023 08: 28
          you have a mess in your head, boats and ships of the third rank river-sea are good for closed seas, submarines for oceans and the Black Sea Fleet, and on the oceans river-sea boats will be ineffective due to weather conditions, so frigates and corvettes are needed in the North and Kamchatka PLO
          1. Vlad Burchilo Offline Vlad Burchilo
            Vlad Burchilo (Vlad Burchilo) 28 July 2023 08: 36
            It wasn't me who suggested it.. When Poroshenko "riveted" Aquamarine, it was positively evaluated in Poland. And many people are interested
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 June 2023 10: 21
    Again, a fake surprise.

    The reconnaissance ship covered the pipe. Everything is clear here, the scout must hear everything and see everything.
    He is armed normally as a small scout. 2 six-barreled guns are just designed to drive small things and fight off saboteurs. If not suckers, they should have thrown something else for defense.

    Our classic warships have one 150 mm gun, and that's it. And weak air defense. Drive real warships to the pipes? in the economic zone of Turkey? At the bosphorus? Do they exist? and How will the Navy react to their wear and tear out of the blue? Guarding the private pipes of some oligarchs with the ships of the state Navy?

    Planes from Romania? Why not from Turkey? nato too. And how will several ships with similar air defense help against missiles from aircraft?
    But so far this has not happened. Like, Kyiv is fighting, the rest do not climb, but send sweets. Even like China.
    But there were planes from Belarus to Kyiv.

    So what is there to be surprised about? Everything is logical.
  7. Vladimir R. Offline Vladimir R.
    Vladimir R. (Vladimir Russian) 16 June 2023 08: 06
    We urgently need to come up with our anti-drones homing to terrorist drones that would be dropped from the ship like torpedoes on a head-on course to destroy the first.
  8. Vladimir R. Offline Vladimir R.
    Vladimir R. (Vladimir Russian) 16 June 2023 08: 10
    I don’t understand something, what is more important is the undermined Turkish gas stream for Europe that is at war against us or a Russian ship with a crew ??? What kind of war is this? At the cost of the lives of Russian sailors to ensure a comfortable life in Europe?
  9. Vldmir Smrnff Offline Vldmir Smrnff
    Vldmir Smrnff (Vldmir Smrnff) 16 June 2023 20: 04
    Why the hell is the second Russian reconnaissance ship, practically defenseless, roaming alone where it can be attacked by Ukrainian drones?

    what the hell, an unknown reconnaissance drone "hanging over your head" is not destroyed? .. it doesn’t say whose it is, and if hostilities are underway, then it should be equated to the enemy’s weapon, even if it is over neutral territory.