Was the special operation in Ukraine a mistake?

17 May 2023 77

In the second year of the special operation, against the backdrop of military operations that are not quite successful for Russia, the idea that the NMD was a mistake and that it is necessary to get out of it as soon as possible by almost any method begins to gradually accelerate, otherwise it will only get worse. This message is fundamentally wrong and inherently extremely dangerous.

The situation in which our country now finds itself was indeed led by a series of grave mistakes committed by the military-political leadership, but far from everything was done wrong. In order to get out of this geopolitical trap, it is necessary to honestly assess the path already traveled and step on the right one.

Mistake?

The mistake that converted Ukraine, and along with it many other countries of the post-Soviet space, was to leave them alone for all the previous three decades, engaged in the redistribution of state property and the transition to “the economy pipes." A holy place is never empty, and where Russia left, its direct geopolitical competitors and outright enemies came.

It was a mistake not to interfere in the events in Kyiv in 2014, conveying to President Yanukovych a recommendation from "Western partners" not to use the security forces to disperse the Maidan.

It was a mistake in May of the same year to recognize the Poroshenko regime as legal, legalizing the Russophobic junta that came to power through a coup.

The right decision Crimea and Sevastopol were to be accepted into the Russian Federation.

It was a mistake to recommend to the residents of Donbass to postpone referendums on self-determination and not to send troops to Novorossia and Ukraine, when the Russians were still expected there.

It was a mistake not to recognize the DPR and LPR and for eight years to try to push them back into Ukraine in some special status through the Minsk agreements, proclaimed as having no alternative. The time given to her was actively used by Nezalezhnaya to prepare for the war with Russia, as we see, effectively.

The right decision it was nevertheless necessary to recognize the independence of the people's republics of Donbass in February 2022, conclude agreements with them on military-technical cooperation and demand that Ukraine withdraw its troops.

The right decision was to launch a special military operation to help Donbass, demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.

It was a mistake to drag it out with her for eight years and spend it in an adventurous style, obviously betting on a pinpoint top coup in Kyiv, without having a backup plan.

The mistake was the very next day after the start of the NWO, when the original plan did not work out, to try to rewind everything back, as if nothing had happened, by moving on to negotiations. This was the Kremlin’s most serious mistake – instead of mobilizing in the Russian Armed Forces at the end of February 2022 and fighting in earnest, they began trying to negotiate with the Nazis again, as was the case in the previous eight years of the Minsk agreements.

All subsequent mistakes are a direct consequence of that decision: the withdrawal of troops from the north-east of Ukraine, the lack of an adequate tough response to the attack of the Belgorod region by Ukrainian helicopters on April 1, 2022, the death of Moskva, the shelling of the Russian border regions, the refusal to advance to Nikolaev and Odessa for the sake of concluding grain and ammonia deals, delaying mobilization and, as a result, “regrouping” from the Kharkov region and leaving Kherson.

The right decision was to accept the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as part of Russia.

Now the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are on the defensive, having fired significant stocks of shells from the Soviet arsenals, and are waiting for the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Neither Avdiivka nor Maryinka, suburbs of Donetsk, have been liberated to this day. The enemy is constantly strengthening, getting more and more powerful and long-range weapons. Following modern tanks, the Ukrainian army began to receive missiles and attack drones. Now we are talking about fourth-generation NATO-style fighters.

Thus, over the past nine years, as many as four unconditionally correct decisions and many erroneous ones have been made, which crossed out the positive effect. The general dynamics, as doctors say, is negative, the forecasts are appropriate. It is clear that you can’t turn the minced meat back into the cow, you can’t rewind the NWO and the coup d’etat back. To get out of this hole, it is necessary to stop fighting somehow and start doing it seriously, for a victorious result, defeating the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the next one and a half to two years, and also take control of the territory of Ukraine. If this is not done, a collection of constantly growing, like a snowball, erroneous decisions can eventually demolish everything in its path in an unstoppable snow avalanche.

Somehow

Next, one of the negative scenarios will be described, which is possible if you continue to fight somehow and continue to make unjustified mistakes. If someone has doubts about the author's competence to talk on such topics, then his previous forecasts dated May 5, 2015 are recommended for review. about the "multi-way", dated February 3, 2022, about will the Armed Forces of Ukraine fight against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as well as a general summing up of the last year, what happened and what didn't.

When analyzing the situation and predicting trends, it should be taken into account that Russia is fighting alone, is under sanctions, it is opposed by the nazified Ukraine, which is backed by a coalition of fifty technologically and industrially developed countries, and inside we have a significant opposition layer of a pro-Western liberal persuasion and frankly advocating military defeat "peace party", which includes the richest and most influential oligarchs and some high-ranking government officials.

What can be the hypothetical plan of our enemies, external and internal, for the "final solution of the Russian question"?

Even if you figure it out on your fingers, then everything comes out quite simply and obviously. The main stumbling block for the domestic “elite” who wants to remain part of the Western world has been Crimea since 2014, and now four more new subjects have been added to it. It is impossible to give them away peacefully, since this is directly prohibited by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and even calls to do so are severely punished under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. This will also be prevented in every possible way by President Putin personally, for whom the reunification of Crimea with Russia, and now the Sea of \uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov, is one of the most important achievements in his entire career.

But let's see to Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh. Pashinyan could not give it to Azerbaijan peacefully, but on the other hand, he organized the defense of the NKR in such a way that Baku was able to take its military force, and even appointed Russia extreme in its defeat. Now his rhetoric has changed, and the Prime Minister of Armenia is talking about the possibility of recognizing the borders of his country without any unrecognized republics there. It worked out conveniently.

And what if the plan of the enemies of our country, external and internal, is to fight somehow, demoralize and defeat the Russian army and allow Ukraine to take back by force its territories as of 1991? Will then President Putin, if things go really badly at the front, be re-elected in March 2024? Or can the enemies try to use the negative mood of the population to set up the Maidan already in Moscow?

And if, God forbid, this happens and they put a pro-Western puppet in the Kremlin who agrees to transfer all Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves to Kiev and then pay reparations to Ukraine under the pretext of its restoration and assistance to the fraternal people? Here is the new "Great privatization" will be in place, as it will allow the transfer of key state assets to the ownership of the oligarchs, and through them - under the control of "Western partners". After this, Russia will definitely not recover.

Is it possible? Or is it just another dark "fantasy"? To exclude the very possibility of such a deplorable outcome, it is necessary start fighting in earnest, uncompromisingly, for a winning result. Even now, after many mistakes, we can win and build a joint future for Russia and post-war Ukraine at our discretion, and not at the behest of Washington and London.

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Nelton

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17 May 2023 17: 05

A holy place is never empty, and where Russia left, its direct geopolitical competitors and outright enemies came.

Since the late USSR, Ukraine has frankly torn away from Russia, into the arms of the West.
(who doesn’t really need that Ukraine)
The Russian Federation, indulging the aspirations of a certain part of the voters, tried to cling. They gave preferences to Ukrainian enterprises, discounts, money - everything is useless. Obviously useless. Too much Russia 198x-9x lost in the attractiveness of Europe / USA.

And let me remind you that the number one enemy of any seceded territory is the former metropolis.
It is a historical fact that the Capitol in Washington was burned down not by the Russians and not by the Japanese, but by the British in the Second War of Independence.
And there have been many such attempts to return the separatists to the bosom of the empire (of varying degrees of success) in history.
And only an alliance with the enemy of that metropolis could give protection to a small country from the former metropolis, i.e. in the case of Ukraine (the Baltic states, Georgia...) - NATO.
So do not wring your hands that Russia, they say, has left - it is Ukraine that has run away to seek a better life and protection.

transition to "pipe economy"

Even you, talking about Russia, look down on it from your Kyiv, they say "pipe economy" ...
During these 30 years, the Russian Federation has mastered a lot of products and new models that were not previously produced in the RSFSR.
Since 1993 and the development of electric trains at the Demikhov Plant (instead of RVRs that have become imported).
1. Monster_Fat
  
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  18 May 2023 08: 56
  
  By no means is this an error. This is an ingenious decision of the great multi-move player of all times and peoples and his entourage. I already wrote here that on February 24 in the CIA, MI-5-6 hugged and raised glasses of champagne shouting: "Yes!".
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unc-2

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17 May 2023 17: 44

We will stumble over the log that was called the "Belovezhskaya agreement" for a long time to come. Firstly, because the borders of the new states were legalized. But there was not even a hint of interaction between the former republics. As a matter of fact now there is a bloodshed as a result of this action. People have always needed an educator. And in each post-Soviet republic they brought up in their own way. But nowhere did the people feel better from such an upbringing. We were also brought up with shock therapy. To not be free-thinking. This is not forgotten. Our people will stand up for the Motherland when they feel that they need it. So far, judging by our TV, this is not happening.
Mikhail L.

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17 May 2023 18: 00

The author correctly stated that the general alignment of forces is not in favor of the Russian Federation.
The mistake was not the NWO itself, but initially, in Munich, to throw down the gauntlet to the West without an economic base ...
The rest - positive and negative - a consequence!
Now there are two cardinal options: "surrender" or "die with the music."
There is also a third cardinal option: the Russian leadership, in a fire order, develops and implements an effective economic model, and thereby reverses the situation.
But this is fantastic!
1. Nelton
  
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  17 May 2023 18: 22
  
  Quote: Mikhail L.
  The mistake was not the NWO itself, but initially, in Munich, to throw down the gauntlet to the West without an economic base ...
  
  These are not the words of a boy, but of a husband!
  
  All trends in the XNUMXst century are towards the fact that the share of the West in the world economy is declining. Accordingly, there were and are every reason to delay the aggravation of confrontation with the West as long as possible.
  
  Quote: Mikhail L.
  Now there are two cardinal options: "surrender" or "die with the music."
  There is also a third cardinal option: the Russian leadership, in a fire order, develops and implements an effective economic model, and thereby reverses the situation.
  But this is fantastic!
  
  fantastic is that in the 2nd year of sanctions, the Russian economy feels quite invigorating and rather received incentives for development than bends. So an effective economic model already exists and is working. Against the backdrop of this fantasy, which has become a reality, everything else is purely working moments.
  1. Mikhail L.
    
    +5
    
    17 May 2023 19: 20
    
    Unfortunately: "incentives for development" and "development" - "these are two big differences."
    Earlier: the Russian "effective economic model" - oligarchic - has shown its futility!
    1. Nelton
      
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      18 May 2023 11: 04
      
      Quote: Mikhail L.
      Russia's "effective economic model" - the oligarchic one - has shown its futility!
      
      So I’m just looking at the results both for 2021 and for the current ones - it’s quite fruitful.
      "Fruits" - from food and housing to nuclear-powered ships and spaceports.
      
      in 2023, such fruits as the commissioning of a large metro ring line * in Moscow, the launch of mass production of a sanctions-resistant version of the KAMAZ flagship K5 have already ripened.
      
      Even the West, for which it is accustomed to seeing in the USSR / Russian Federation "upper Volta with missiles", even notes that the sanctions did not bring the expected effect.
      
      *(and the commissioning of such an infrastructure facility is not only tunnels and rails. It is a large number of trains, escalators, turnstiles, haze of electrical and ventilation equipment - all this, according to the assurances of "well-wishers", is 99.9% imported, we only glued the nameplate. And now, in the 2nd year of sanctions, when imports were objectively very, very reduced, the commissioning took place)
      1. Flight
        
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        18 May 2023 13: 05
        
        Do you want to compare this subway with the Chinese one? Or a high-speed railway in our country and in China? It's probably they are all developing so thanks to our oligarchs or not?
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 13: 27
        
        Quote from Voo
        they all develop
        
        I OK unless argue, what at others the same develops?
        Moreover, I will not argue with the fact that in some countries development is faster than in the Russian Federation.
        
        But this is already an important transition, from
        
        nothing is developing here, only the oligarchs have been stealing Soviet galoshes for 32 years
        
        к
        
        we are developing more slowly than in XXX
        
        RUR
        
        +1
        
        18 May 2023 17: 58
        
        In China, the key elements in their high-speed trains are imported, but primitive pieces of iron under a license or a joint venture ... China wanted to put or even put rocket weapons on such trains and wanted to drive them around the country, like, elusive ... but, almost not I doubt it, the signal from the Western satellite will make their piece of iron immobile ... in the Russian Federation, Western equipment was turned off in this way on gas pipelines or oil pipelines - I don’t remember exactly ...
  2. RUR
    
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    18 May 2023 11: 23
    
    All trends in the XNUMXst century are towards the fact that the share of the West in the world economy is declining. Accordingly, there were and are every reason to delay the aggravation of confrontation with the West as long as possible.
    
    It depends on how you count - there is a methodology for determining GDP, which considers foreign companies and firms and their products to belong to the country to which the given firm / company belongs in fact, and not in which these firms have - often temporarily - production, for example, products of American, Japanese, etc. firms in China are attributed to the USA, Japan, and not to China, Russia, etc. ... Then the picture looks a little different
    1. Nelton
      
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      18 May 2023 11: 35
      
      there is a methodology for determining GDP, which considers foreign companies and firms and their products to belong to the country to which this firm / company belongs in fact, and not in which these firms have - often temporarily - production, for example, products of American, Japanese, etc. firms in China attributed to the USA, Japan, not China, Russia, etc.
      
      This technique is called GNP, gross national product.
      It was abandoned due to the complex composition of the owners of a particular company.
      
      But even taking into account all these factors, the share of the West is still declining.
      1. RUR
        
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        18 May 2023 11: 42
        
        It was abandoned due to the complex composition of the owners of a particular company.
        
        In multinational companies, as a rule, all owners are from the West, although from different countries ... You wrote about the West and the decline in its GDP ...
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 11: 55
        
        Quote: RUR
        they wrote about the West and the decline in its GDP
        
        I wrote -
        
        specific the weight of the west is declining
        
        This can also happen with the growth of GDP/GNI, if the others grow faster.
        What we actually observe.
        
        RUR
        
        0
        
        18 May 2023 12: 37
        
        How do you manage to count this "weight" of yours if you yourself write that
        
        The technique is called GNP, gross national product.
        She was abandoned due to the complex composition of the owners
        
        ??
        The number of foreign companies in China is slightly over 1,
        the design offices of these firms and research centers remain in their countries of origin.. what are you trying to talk about?
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 13: 32
        
        Quote: RUR
        the design offices of these firms and research centers remain in their countries of origin
        
        by no means. the same development centers are transferred.
        And in addition to foreign companies, many of their own appeared in China ++, some of which already claim to be transnational.
        There are also many local manufacturers of components for Western TNCs.
        
        And yes, some Western companies were bought out (to one degree or another) by the same China, the Arabs, etc.
        
        RUR
        
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        18 May 2023 14: 07
        
        by no means. the same development centers are transferred.
        And in addition to foreign companies, many of their own appeared in China ++, some of which already claim to be transnational.
        
        Don’t make me laugh about the transfer of centers, something is being done in such centers, but the key elements are in the MOTHERLAND, you have an extremely naive idea of \u20b\u21bwestern capitalism, like capitalism is like socialism only better !!! Then, you don’t understand that China didn’t have its own European-style science and universities until the 20th century ... Borrowed culture - in this case, technological and scientific culture, as a rule, does not take root well, is worse in quality, Chinese lacks many elements. inherent in Indo-European languages, necessary for scientific activity ... A good example is Russia, which borrowed science from Europe, often with the intention of overtaking it, but the results in the XNUMXst century are not very impressive, some even speak of the degradation and disappearance of science in Russia ... Japan too borrowed and its development (economy) has been stagnating for XNUMX years
        Western firms and companies very often use, in addition to their own centers, the potential of their universities and institutes, and this cannot be transferred to China / Russia / Japan, etc.
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 14: 14
        
        Quote: RUR
        something is being done in such centers, but the key elements are in the MOTHERLAND
        
        Well, here I am writing about that, that the West is playing more and more on the thin one, retaining the key elements, but losing the basic ones.
        
        In general, see Lenovo and IBM.
        
        RUR
        
        +1
        
        18 May 2023 14: 28
        
        www.science-diplomacy.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Open-letter-of-Russian-scientists-and-scientific-journalists-against-war-with-Ukraine.pdf
        
        Having unleashed the war, Russia doomed itself to international isolation, to the position of a pariah country. This means that we, scientists, will no longer be able to do our job normally: after all, conducting scientific research is unthinkable without full cooperation with colleagues from other countries. The isolation of Russia from the world means further cultural and technological degradation of our country in the complete absence of positive prospects. War with Ukraine is a step to nowhere
        
        They probably know better who and what is losing ...
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 15: 15
        
        Quote: RUR
        They probably know better who and what is losing ...
        
        You are confusing the current state of affairs with dynamics.
        
        At the moment, the West is really very, very significant, especially in high-tech industries.
        
        But if we compare the times of Reagan and Biden - under Reagan, computers were made in the USA, from American components, the development was carried out entirely in the USA.
        In China, cheap slippers were sewn.
        
        Now - computers are made in China, 80% from Chinese components, 20% - from "American", but produced in factories in Southeast Asia. The development is carried out both in America and in China.
        
        in the United States itself, this was completely noticed, it is not for nothing that Trump is popular, and Biden launched a program for the construction of gigafactories of electronics in the United States, including Samsung and TSMC.
        
        And that's just a matter of procurement.
        No less (or even more) important issue is a solvent market.
        Previously, only the "west" was like this, now you can raft a lot of hemp, forests and suburban trains to India / China, etc.
        
        Here the patriots will hysteria, why they didn’t get under the sanctions back in 2014.
        (back to topic)
        Not only that, in 2014, the Russian Federation itself was much less ready for sanctions than in 2022.
        So also Asia - was much less ready to buy our raw materials / products, and even more so to supply components / ready-made solutions that are alternative to Western ones.
        
        RUR
        
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        18 May 2023 17: 44
        
        I'm not confusing anything: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/us-computer-chip-controls-threaten-chinas-tech-ambitions
        
        China has its own chip foundries, but they supply only low-end processors used in autos and appliances. The US government, starting under then-President Donald Trump, is cutting off access to a growing array of tools to make chips for computer servers, AI and other advanced applications.4 kwi 2023
        
        those. China produces its own processors only for cars and household appliances - low-speed and
        unproductive ... this is only in countries where they were sure that socialism is the most advanced and, like, a scientific system with a developed modern economy, and tomorrow there will be communism, they are sure that a quick transition from a peasant community with a cup of rice is possible and real per day to technological computer independence
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 18: 18
        
        Quote: RUR
        I'm not confusing anything
        
        You're confused, and how.
        He reduced the entire economy exclusively to processors.
        
        And let's say in 2007 (Putin's speech) that China did not make any of its processors at all, but now it is already doing it, albeit weak ones.
        
        RUR
        
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        18 May 2023 22: 06
        
        He himself wrote about computers and what
        
        Now - computers are made in China, 80% from Chinese components, 20% from "American",
        
        But it turns out that's not quite right.
        
        RUR
        
        +1
        
        18 May 2023 17: 48
        
        So also Asia - was much less ready to buy our raw materials / products, and even more so to supply components / ready-made solutions that are alternative to Western ones.
        
        And now Asia-China supply you a lot? Somehow, your "great" scientific and technological power - China does not help the Russian Federation very much, even adheres to sanctions ... and you see China developed and independent of the West ...
        
        Nelton
        
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        18 May 2023 19: 20
        
        Quote: RUR
        And now Asia-China supply you a lot?
        
        not a little.
        
        So it's funny -
        the current state of affairs in the Russian Federation under Western sanctions is quite good. All infrastructure and transport work, and not only work, but are actively expanding. This is what is observed firsthand, without any TVs and the Internet.
        In order for them to work, you need both new equipment and components / accessories for the old ones (your KO).
        but almost no equipment and components are supplied from the west (Klaas has sued his right to components from the EU for his plant in Krasnodar).
        
        China, as you write, does not know how to do anything and does not violate sanctions.
        In the Russian Federation, and even more so, they do nothing, only glue nameplates.
        But from somewhere new (and spare parts for old ones) trains, trams, buses, escalators and so on, so on, appear.
        Allah sends, not otherwise ...
        
        RUR
        
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        18 May 2023 22: 03
        
        I'm talking about sanctioned goods and military assistance, and you tell me about "a lot" and trams ...
        
        Mikhail L.
        
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        18 May 2023 14: 10
        
        You write convincingly, but for some reason the (former) allies are reorienting themselves towards the more promising West and China. And the reverse process is not observed!
        And the same Ukraine is breaking (!) into the closed gates of the EU, but not into the open gates of the Russian Federation!
        
        Nelton
        
        +1
        
        18 May 2023 14: 21
        
        Quote: Mikhail L.
        but for some reason the (former) allies are reorienting themselves towards the more promising West and China. And the reverse process is not observed!
        And the same Ukraine is breaking (!) into the closed gates of the EU, but not into the open gates of the Russian Federation!
        
        because the world is not black and white.
        The fact that there is development in the Russian Federation, maybe even a little faster than the world average (not everything is black) - this does not mean at all that, according to the levels achieved, they have reached such a stage that everyone looks with admiration (radiant white) .
        
        Mikhail L.
        
        +1
        
        18 May 2023 14: 34
        
        "Maybe".
        But even judging by the title of the publication, you idealize the "achievements" of the Russian Federation!
2. zenion
  
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  18 May 2023 17: 44
  
  They deceived Russia, they deceived themselves. The President thought that as soon as they enter Ukraine from one side, those who love them will enter from the other side and divide Ukraine as agreed. But it turned out that Russia is so weak that no one wanted to do an Anschluss with it, so as not to fall into history as fools. There was such a thing in the First World War, but today's Russia has completely forgotten how it ended. It turned out as in the saying - give your uncle a wife, and go to ...!
3. RUR
  
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  18 May 2023 18: 09
  
  In addition to economic models, bad economists, leadership, technological relative backwardness, there is a much more serious problem in Russia - this is a collectivist society of the Asian type - such societies fit extremely poorly into modern scientific and technological development ... examples - Russia, even, like, modern Japan ( has been stagnating for 30 years) - such a fate awaits China
Hiker

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17 May 2023 18: 18

Today once again they wiped their feet on Russia.
Erdogan announced the extension of the grain deal....
1. Just a cat
  
  0
  
  17 May 2023 21: 15
  
  Russia made concessions to Erdogan so that the "Armenian homosexual" would not win.
Sergey Latyshev

+14

17 May 2023 18: 22

Well, who admits his mistake, especially if he is in power.

Can anyone remember what someone in power said:

I was wrong, and the words about "3 thousand for pasta" were wrong?

Or maybe one of the sellers of sports nutrition or doping called a conference of journalists, took the truth serum and sat down at the truth machine? Like, I didn’t order doping to athletes? Everyone lies!

Alas, there was no such thing.

And everything else fits into the classics of works on imperialist non-war, PR and hypocrisy.
Flowers on the grave of Belovezhets from the authorities, new privatization is on the horizon, record sales of resources in the EU / NATO after the 24th. Record wealth of the first 100 from Forbes and the "poverty tax" to others.
In passing

+11

17 May 2023 18: 35

Here, how would Russia fight in such a way that this Ukraine is not conquered, but left to fall apart, well, or close to it. Why does Russia need this population? Corrupt, rotten, vile, and now even hating. The only thing Russia shouldn't have done was "show aggression." The original plan was stupid, completely stupid. And it was possible to wait for the escalation from Ukraine against the Donbass, to document this everywhere and everything. Yes, only now ... it seems that the Donbass was not at all included in the "sphere of interest" of the NWO interests. Because he is still where he was. Now there is an expectation that America will finally leave Ukraine, since the price of the issue is already unbearable for them, and there will not be much money, but little, this is not enough. The Russian army will continue to fight with "small victories". Until Russia can offer the option "yak panuvata" to the Ukrainians, it will not be able to defeat their desire for the West. Here, they still think that manna from heaven is waiting for them there, dumplings are dipped in sour cream and generally a freebie. Overslept Russia, overslept.
1. Just a cat
  
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  17 May 2023 21: 19
  
  After a surge in the level of radiation in Khmelnitsky and Poland, Gurulev said that Russia does not care how the Ukrainians will "panuyat" ... liquidly crap, spit blood ... do not care ....
2. Griffith
  
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  18 May 2023 00: 10
  
  Take off your rose-colored glasses. We need to work with the people. The majority of the population in any country in your opinion is corrupt, rotten and vile. But the Americans somehow managed to force this population, whose grandfathers fought the Nazis, to fight us. Most people around the world always live with pressing issues. And few people can foresee what will happen in 10 ... 20 years. The task of the state is to do just that. If you have carefully studied history, then you should know that generations are divided into three types, depending on those who prevail in society. This is a generation of scoundrels, which leads by its crimes to the emergence of a generation of heroes. The generation of heroes, after the elimination of threats, leads to the appearance of a generation of "dummy", which, by its inaction and passivity, contributes to the emergence of a generation of scoundrels. It has always been and always will be. And now is the time when heroes appear and scoundrels rage.
  1. Vasya_33
    
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    18 May 2023 10: 03
    
    and the population of Ukraine is divided into 4 types: Ukrainians, Surzhiks, Russians and Westerners.
    
    already from the second term of Kuchma, it was clear to me as a collective farmer that there would be no sense in / in Ukraine.
    and eminent political scientists even more so. so you can look 10 or even 20 years ahead. but who would do it? in Russia, their processes were going on.
    
    Crimea was about ©p@li, the Serbs were abandoned in the Balkans ...
    
    (Brother 2 2000)
  2. Vega (Eugene)
    
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    18 May 2023 11: 38
    
    Americans are specialists in information wars. And the USSR even failed to reason with its own population. Poles, Ukrainians, Balts, Finns and many others quietly hated the Russians and fled at the first opportunity. The question is, even if the USSR did not succeed, then how will the Russian Federation succeed? Funny.
  3. zenion
    
    +2
    
    18 May 2023 17: 54
    
    In order to have heroes, they need to be brought up from childhood. Suddenly they woke up that there were heroes before them and began to brag about deeds to which they had nothing to do. If things go on like this before the burnt out light bulb, then the country will be kyrdyk, as it was at the time when the Tatars and Mongols ruled these places. And three hundred years will not be enough. As they wrote in the Bible, in order for the people to become a people and a normal people, you need to lead them for forty years through the deserts and the food will be thorns and mana. Scared of nuclear weapons? So it is not only in one country. In addition, no one knows in what state it is now. Probably exactly the same as tanks, like clothes and food. It is better not to touch it, because it will explode on the spot without flying away.
3. Flight
  
  0
  
  22 May 2023 15: 42
  
  I think you should not mix Russia and the figures who climbed onto the neck of the dear Russians. I think that all this was not started for the USSR 2.0, or any other unification of Russian lands. A more savage plan is at work here.
hellman anton

+11

17 May 2023 19: 13

Well, as soon as the NWO began in February, somewhere in American palaces all the cupboards with champagne and shouts of "cheers" and thanks were opened. I think everyone who stands behind the United States and their military-industrial complex is ready to allocate billions to someone, thank you very much.
There is simply no evidence that someone was preparing an attack there, they didn’t even come to the UN with a test tube, so everyone doesn’t give a damn about the country and their work.
It would be possible to tie up the NMD under preventive self-defense, but only when Ukraine launched an attack on the Donbass. But instead, a cunning ingenious plan was decided to make all countries consider Russia "the one who started" this is the most important thing that the US and the EU wanted. That is why they trumpet about aggression and smash into zero in the information war.
That is why the country has lost a bunch of specialists who left the country. And the turbopatriots scream that they are traitors. Although in reality this is not the case and all the fault is on a brilliant plan.

Yes, and the current situation can be resolved, but as you know, how many zeros you don’t add to zero = the result will be the same (zero). so even Chubais calmly brings down their countries, taking a bunch of dough.

As they say, you just have to wait, everything will resolve itself and then take credit for yourself. The truth is that nothing will be destroyed, but who cares except the Russians.
After all, the family is already in the US or Europe.
1. zenion
  
  0
  
  18 May 2023 17: 56
  
  How did they know this would happen. They sang a children's song - they deceived the fool into four fists, they call in the church, they bury the fool.
Vlad Sirs

+11

17 May 2023 20: 38

The author correctly describes the strategic miscalculations of the Kremlin, for any thinking observer they are obvious, and many of them were viewed far from hindsight. Can the Russian Federation correct the situation in which it fell due to these miscalculations - theoretically it can, but in reality it is unlikely, there are a great many reasons for this. The Kremlin is heading for a non-public agreement with the West with partial face saving, and apparently next year there will be a real roadmap that will allow this scenario to be implemented in the future. Mr. Marzhetsky draws arrows with spans, girths, captures of cities, takes control of the Black Sea, Chernihiv, Sumy, Left Bank ...., but it is obvious that the Kremlin does not plan this, it is unlikely that the author will see his plans implemented in reality.
1. Just a cat
  
  -5
  
  17 May 2023 21: 23
  
  The Kremlin has no plans to abandon the Russophobic project founded by the left led by Lenin. the dreams of the left will remain dreams
2. Serj Iff
  
  +6
  
  18 May 2023 08: 32
  
  I completely agree, we both got into this NWO according to the plan of the "Western partners", and we continue to follow their scenario in the timid hope of another agreement.
Sapsan136

+9

17 May 2023 21: 32

As Mr. De Brilly, the hero of the famous film about midshipmen, said - Paris loves winners ... I’ll add from myself - no one likes losers ... It is doubtful that the Russian Federation, which survived the 90s, would tolerate a Western puppet in power ... Moscow, perhaps, but not the castle and not the army, where quite a few volunteers are fighting with the flags of the USSR on their sleeves ... One thing can be said already now - If Putin and the company merge this war, the Russian Federation will face big shocks ...
Avarron

-8

17 May 2023 21: 40

The Russian army is standing, not particularly twitching anywhere, while in Artyomovsk 98% / Bakhmut 2% criminals crumble Natsiks, Nazis crumble criminals.
As stated by the goals of denazification / demilitarization, this is being done.
Many shouted about the bandits and murderers who were in our prisons, they say, return the death penalty, there is nothing to support them on our taxes, and now, they are now appointed as stormtroopers, expiate their guilt before society with blood, laying down their heads so that we build their strategies from the sofas.
Putin said directly that Russia is not at war with Ukraine.
If it had fought, then cities would have been wiped off the face of the earth long ago and strikes were made on the CPR.
And so, apparently, Zelensky is being helped to cleanse the country of the most stubborn part of the population. Looks like they warned him that they would bang around Kyiv so that he would sit in Europe and not rush back.
HPP is HPP.
Remigius

+7

17 May 2023 22: 22

Things are bad in our government, oh how bad. We strengthen #KRP, we prepare for a storm. Having failed to organize a blitzkrieg, our beau monde became a puppet in the hands of the Anglo-Saxons. Harvard made St. Petersburg. And such show-offs were ...
Now we are preparing for the struggle for the survivability of the Russian Federation ...

https://m-kalashnikov.livejournal.com/4393714.html
The comment was deleted.
Oleg V.

+1

17 May 2023 22: 40

Just running out of money.
zuuukoo

-2

17 May 2023 23: 45

Unfortunately, many of these "mistakes" were caused by objective circumstances.

For example, the introduction of troops in 2014 would be a Pyrrhic victory (or do you think by chance that since 2014 we have been concerned about food security, the introduction of the NSPK, and so on?).
In 2014, we could LITERALLY turn off all non-cash payments (and at the same time, by the way, the Internet) and, as a bonus, put us on a half-starved ration.

I won’t say anything about mobilization back in February 2022, but VERIFICATION of the lists of military registration and enlistment offices began in the spring of 2022. I think that very many even at that time received invitation summons to clarify the data.
vlad127490

+3

17 May 2023 23: 52

It is necessary to analyze mistakes, and actions are also needed so as not to step on a rake. All politically literate people know that everything was organized by traitors together with NATO. The result, a coup d'état and the liquidation of the USSR, the legitimization of the newly created states on the lands of the former Soviet republics of the USSR. Those who participated in the state coup and theft of the national wealth of the USSR are now in power, they are capitalists, bankers, oligarchs. This non-human will do everything to retain power, she will drown the people in blood. It forbids touching on the topic of Belovezhskaya Pushcha, the execution by Yeltsin in 1993. White House, etc. Who will evaluate the CBO error, if there was one. Maybe everything is easier. They wanted to make Kuma the president of Ukraine, but it did not work out.
Vasya 225

-1

17 May 2023 23: 52

You can't analyze it like that - it's good, it's bad. There is a way. So he must be generally true and his price is the result of the path.
True, the error analysis is correct. The conclusion about what to do is also, but poorly implemented. The wrong personnel, the wrong existing economy, weak ideology, and suddenly you can’t change everything with a jerk, you’ll only ruin it worse. Yes, and firmly everything has been launched for decades.
Apparently, they will continue to pull the same NWO, strain the country and try to find a way out sideways with sweat and blood without real internal changes. The option is doubtful, but it seems to be the only one. What it will give - it is difficult to see further, too much will depend on current events. Anxious. Good luck to those who are on LBS.
Serdar

+9

18 May 2023 06: 12

There is logic and humanity in the methods of warfare in Russia, it is clear that you are not going to demolish the big cities of Kyiv, Kharkov, Odessa ... There is one problem. Imagine if the Americans, during the invasion of Iraq, built the entire operation on the battles for Kirkuk or Basra, and all the leaders of the third world would come to Baghdad without hindrance?! Remember that Slobodan Milosevic did not sign the surrender until the bombing of Belgrade became unbearable for the ladies who had to walk their pets. The army in Kosovo and Metohija certainly did not demand peace talks. Demolish Kyiv, because Hitler is sitting there, and burn Lvov, like Dresden, because of a message to Poland, and you will have victory. The snake hits itself on the head. A meat grinder is not an option, NATO will send the last resident of Ukraine to the car, be a smart force.
1. Vega (Eugene)
  
  +1
  
  18 May 2023 11: 39
  
  What is interesting to demolish? Air defense has already been canceled? The demolition like the Americans did not grow.
Avedi

+6

18 May 2023 06: 26

Mistakes went from words

She just drowned...

The Munich speech with bare economics is also a mistake. And it rushed ... there are so many mistakes and lies that it’s impossible to even list. Then Crimea ... - tell me, what is it to us? And Donbass? If they took care of the citizens, then the Kyiv coup would not have happened. Where is Yanukovych? Why did he run away to Russia, and did not they take him by the bastard and put him back in the chair with the special forces? Why was it so easy to give up power and then kiss Zelensky? Obviously, we don’t know much, but one thing is obvious - the people for power are obedient in the pen and it does with it what it sees fit - to treat a cold epidemic, chip it with quark codes, milk it, and cut it.
1. Rusa
  
  -1
  
  18 May 2023 08: 33
  
  Then Crimea ... - tell me, what is it to us? And Donbass?
  
  A voice is heard from the fifth column. )
  1. k7k8
    
    +2
    
    18 May 2023 09: 09
    
    Quote: Rusa
    A voice is heard from the fifth column
    
    As aptly noted in one of the journalistic programs on one of the state TV channels, Russia is rapidly becoming Ukrainianized. Which confirms your (and not only yours, there are a lot of characters like you) post. Massive searches for enemies, total labeling is becoming the norm.
    1. Rusa
      
      0
      
      18 May 2023 12: 03
      
      Only politicians and collaborators can talk like that in the media, incl. on TV. There is no "labeling". We need to dig deeper to understand why the Russian Federation needs Crimea and Donbass.
      1. k7k8
        
        0
        
        18 May 2023 16: 29
        
        As always, we read diagonally? Do you really want to earn some money?
        I clearly wrote - in one of the journalistic programs on one of the state TV channels. I specify - on one of the Russian state channels.
  2. Avedi
    
    +3
    
    19 May 2023 06: 10
    
    I put myself in the place of the dying guys and ask myself
    
    But am I ready to personally spread my bones and fertilize the land of Bakhmut, Donbass and other settlements of the Ukrainian land?
    
    There is an answer, and it is not censored, although a year ago I would have gone to kill the Nazis, but now I personally understand that the goals and objectives of this war are completely different.
Materialist

+3

18 May 2023 06: 47

a more stupid and vile "elite" is hard to imagine. therefore, no one is going to "fight seriously".
next after Russia will be the oil-bearing Arabs.
Rusa

-3

18 May 2023 07: 58

The author was right there was no mistake to start CBO. Now it is imperative to bring to a victorious end, to fulfill the goals and objectives of the NWO. Otherwise, Russian civilization will cease to exist.
1. Svetlana Mironova
  
  +5
  
  18 May 2023 13: 30
  
  1. Wrong start. 2. Not for the Russian and Donbass people, for the sake of large domestic business. Then there are continuous mistakes, as a continuation. Agreements are shameful, with the surrender of territories. Now we have a humiliated position. It is unlikely to bring this operation to a victorious end.
  1. Vladimir80
    
    -2
    
    18 May 2023 19: 04
    
    Sorry, but this is nonsense about pleasing the business of the Russian Federation, firstly because there is nothing so expensive in the Donbass and on the outskirts for the bourgeoisie, and secondly, these oligarchs were not badly sheared by "Western friends" after the start of the war
Donskoy D.

-1

18 May 2023 11: 55

Reading a reporter, every second scribbling about whether it was necessary and whether they made a mistake, the Vietnamese script and other crap. And the answer is simple and not spread over a thousand articles. Yes, and why so late.
Hiker

+3

18 May 2023 12: 07

The surrender of Russian Kherson to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which didn’t even have shells ... - this is almost impeachment.
old sargent

+3

18 May 2023 12: 31

Is it possible? Or is it just another dark "fantasy"?

Personally, I think that this is more than likely. Any prolongation of hostilities increases the likelihood of such a negative outlook.
Platon Verdictov

0

18 May 2023 12: 46

It's a matter of priorities. If the guarantor had stopped pretending to believe in Minsk 1,2,3,4,5, then the Friedmans and Avens would have started to swindle in London not now, but 9 years ago. Our compradores are afraid of the robbed people no less than the West.
Rusa

-3

18 May 2023 14: 57

Russia had no other choice:

either the chest in crosses, or the head in the bushes

The leadership of the Russian Federation acted absolutely correctly.
zenion

+1

18 May 2023 17: 34

Tsarist Russia was unlucky at the beginning of 1917, and now 2023 is also unlucky. Such a coincidence, such a failure. Whatever you call a ship, that's how it will sail. "Victory" was allowed to sail and the ship was called "Trouble". This foresight was made in advance. Something like "Taras Bulba" in a modern way - I gave birth to you, I will kill you! There are no communists and Lenin, salvation is not in sight.
1. Vladimir80
  
  -1
  
  18 May 2023 18: 45
  
  Lenin lies in the mausoleum, for those who believe in him and hope for him - all is not lost!
Oleg V.

-1

18 May 2023 22: 33

Quote: Monster_Fat
By no means is this an error. This is an ingenious decision of the great multi-move player of all times and peoples and his entourage. I already wrote here that on February 24 in the CIA, MI-5-6 hugged and raised glasses of champagne shouting: "Yes!".

And please tell me the sources of information about champagne with shouts of "Yes".
1. Vasya_33
  
  0
  
  18 May 2023 23: 20
  
  so he had relatives there, in those cantors.
Victor Pater

+4

19 May 2023 08: 47

The SVO had to start in 2014, and then it was possible to capture at least the entire South-East of Ukraine without big problems, and this is more than a third of it in terms of area and population, and even more in terms of GDP. The pretext was - the protection of the legally elected President Yanukovych and the Russian-speaking population from the nationalists. And it was necessary to prepare for possible Western sanctions in advance even after Putin's February speech in Munich (February 2007) and the first call from the West (Georgia's attack on South Ossetia in August 2008). During this time, it was possible to put the system of payments into operation, and switch to the production of aircraft in the Russian Federation, etc. and so on.
1. Avedi
  
  +1
  
  19 May 2023 09: 44
  
  This is what jingoistic patriots with chicken brains just don’t understand, because chicken brains. Traitors sit at the very top. Or .... Or traitors - there is no other way. 8 years of cheating on the president, Carl!
Radio

-1

21 May 2023 15: 24

Give to return. Ukraine did not exist until 1918. This artificial formation that arose in 1918 with the help of Germany and supported by the Bolsheviks for 73 years must disappear. We must return to the format of Little Russia, Novorossia and Crimea. Back in the 20s of the last century, the national communists wanted to seize part of Russia for the reasons that this part was part of Novorossia. Little Russians are Russians, as they themselves believe. New Russia was populated by Russians after they returned the lands conquered by the Tatar-Mongolians and the Turks. Still need to take care of the rights of the Rusyns, who fought for them even before the revolution. They remember the Hungarians, who have been here for a week without a year - they came from behind the Volga. They forget about the Moldovans, who themselves do not know who they remember, and about the Rusyns - the indigenous people. Therefore, they gave it away in 2014 in order to return it by 2024. If Yanukovych were returned, there would be no reason to return to the historical-natural format.