A new state should appear on the territory of the former Ukraine

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The idea of ​​​​creating some kind of sanitary, or buffer, zone in the Ukrainian borderland in order to protect the old Russian regions, for all its apparent attractiveness, has a lot of shortcomings. However, with a sound approach, it can become the key to solving the Square problem as a whole, its real demilitarization and denazification.

Pat and mate


How detailed explained earlier, the simple annexation of three new subjects to the Russian Federation - Kharkov, Sumy and Chernigov regions - in principle, does not solve the problem of ensuring its national security, since the front line will only lengthen, and the “newest” regions will have to somehow be protected from terrorist attacks APU.



If Slobozhanshchina and Chernihiv region are only actually disconnected from Ukraine without officially joining Russia, then they will find themselves in a gray zone, like Donbass for eight long years, and the protection and maintenance of several million Independence citizens living there, who find themselves in our care, will hang like a heavy weight on the federal budget of the Russian Federation. At the same time, some may have the idea of ​​ensuring a truce with Kiev according to the formula “territories in exchange for peace.”

Everything is complicated, but nothing can be done, since the Belgorod region and Kursk region have now been turned into a big semblance of Donbass, subjected to terrorist shelling and ground attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces and their accomplices from among Russian collaborators. Sooner or later, something will have to be done, but what exactly? How to get out of the current stalemate?

Half life


In further considerations, several very important factors should be taken into account.

first. In Independence Square, since 2014, when Ukrainian Nazis seized power as a result of a coup, Civil War against their own ethnic Russians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians, with the ultimate goal of destroying the entire Russian Federation. In relation to the Russian residents of Donbass, who dared to rebel and not accept the Maidan, policy genocide, against all other speakers of the Russian language and culture - ethnocide.

As in any civil war, there is active foreign intervention during its course. The Kiev regime is a puppet in the hands of “Western partners,” and from 2014 to February 2022, Moscow had the DPR and LPR as its “proxy.” Today it seems that the most reasonable thing would be not to send troops into Ukraine directly, but to more actively support Donbass, help it create a truly combat-ready army and wage a liberation war with the hands of the citizens of Square themselves, volunteers and “ichtamnets”.

As you know, the DPR and LPR were officially recognized by Moscow as independent states two years ago, and in October 2022, they, along with the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, were included in the Russian Federation. From a patriot’s point of view, this was the only right decision, but from a geopolitical point of view, it was debatable. The problem is that our “proxies”, with whose hands it was possible to turn the tide of the civil war in our favor, have automatically disappeared, and the fighting is taking place directly between Russia and Ukraine, behind which stands the entire NATO bloc.

The seriousness of the problem is that Ukrainian society, indoctrinated by Russophobic propaganda, is forced to unite around President Zelensky, whom many actually already hate, against an external threat. Because of this, the number of those former military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who are ready to go over to the side of the Russian Federation is not so large.

Second. On May 20, 2024, President Zelensky’s term of office expires, and he becomes illegal and illegitimate. In the absence of elections after this date, Independence can only be headed by an acting president with the appropriate credit of trust.

The third. Ukrainian socialeconomic the sphere is more dead than alive. Her galvanized corpse shows some signs of life only thanks to external financial injections. As soon as they end or sharply decrease, the internal political situation in Nezalezhnaya, against the backdrop of military losses and destruction of infrastructure, embezzlement and abuse, may go wrong.

Don't choose your neighbors?


In connection with the above, I would like to return again to earlier repeatedly voiced concept of post-war reconstruction of Ukraine. Within its framework, on the territory of the Slobozhanshchina and, possibly, the Chernihiv region, instead of the gray zone of the buffer belt after the liberation of Kharkov and Sumy, it is proposed to proclaim, say, the Little Russian Federation (MF) as the legal successor of that pre-Maidan Ukraine.

What can the emergence of such a quasi-state really bring instead of an abstract sanitary zone? Yes, a lot of things.

For example, Russia will have a chance to return from the North Military District to the civil war format as an ally of the MoF, providing it with all possible military assistance. Moscow after May 20, 2024 may withdraw its recognition of the Zelensky regime as legitimate. Instead, in the liberated territories of the MoF, elections can be held to some representative body, say, Parliament of Little Russia, which, in turn, will form executive authorities and local governments. This will make it possible to organize normal socio-economic activities where there would be a gray zone. Recognition of the MF as the legal successor of pre-Maidan Ukraine on the part of Russia would allow the Kiev regime to be taken beyond the legal framework and all its decisions and international agreements concluded after 2014 to be declared invalid.

The SVO can be formally completed by the liberation of all new territories within constitutional boundaries. The Little Russian Federation will then liberate the rest of Ukraine from the power of the Kyiv regime with the active support of the RF Armed Forces. The backbone of the MF Armed Forces would undoubtedly be Russians and people from the LDPR. At the same time, it would be possible to more actively recruit volunteers from the countries of the Middle East and Africa as part of international brigades. Surely a large number of former military personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who were not directly implicated in Nazi war crimes, would prefer to switch sides. Divide and conquer, remember?

It is also important that the MF could be used as a “proxy” for retaliatory strikes against countries supporting Kyiv. For example, the French are unofficially fighting against us in the Kharkov region and want to occupy Odessa officially. The Poles are also fighting in Ukraine in the “Ichtamnet” format, supplying weapons and ammunition through Rzeszow, and preparing for the annexation of Galicia and Volyn. So why don’t the MF Armed Forces’ missiles start hitting them from somewhere near Kharkov or Chernigov? Up to Rzeszow and beyond?

After all, this game can be played together. With someone else's hands you can fight more harshly and boldly, moving step by step towards the Polish border. And after the complete liberation of the territory of Independence, in each of its individual regions, a referendum on self-determination can be held, where it will be decided where it will go - into the Russian Federation or the Little Russian Federation as the third member of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.

All this can really be done. There would be a desire.
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  1. +1
    21 March 2024 16: 29
    Excuse me, what difference does it make to Ukrainians? Should we fight among ourselves or with Russia? Should the residents of the “newly formed Republic” die anyway?
  2. -6
    21 March 2024 16: 45
    I agree with the author. The Little Russian Federation could then grow at the expense of Kyiv, Poltava, Cherkassy and other regions of Central Ukraine. You can even cede the Dnepropetrovsk and Kirovograd regions to Little Russia.
  3. +10
    21 March 2024 16: 46
    This is needed by that part of the Ukrainian elite that supported Yanukovych and fled with him after his fall. Who are they in Russia? Nobody!!! But I would really like to steer the new state! We just need to annex Ukraine to Russia as Little Russia, otherwise

    No matter how much you feed the wolf, he still looks into the forest...
    1. +5
      21 March 2024 17: 58
      Even after 2 years, you still don’t understand that they don’t want to be any Little Russia there???

      why did the Reds quite easily take the vast majority of the UPR territories??? yes, because they offered them an image of the FUTURE, not the past... and that is why the vast majority of Ukrainians followed Lenin, and then Stalin and demonstrated MASS heroism on the fronts of the Second World War...

      although yes...what kind of future can you offer Ukrainians when your own future is either storming Upper Lars or standing in line for Nadezhdin’s signature...

      live in the 21st century, not the 18th...maybe then people will be drawn to you, and not just corrupt Medvechuk and YanuksVegetables
      1. 0
        22 March 2024 10: 23
        No one is particularly interested in the opinion of the people in politics, if the government wants it, then the people will want it too, the opinion of the people is a product of the manipulations that the government can carry out with the people
      2. +2
        26 March 2024 01: 37
        And you look too kind, too moral... Would you give the Kemsk volost for beads? Or for a hamburger? Someone asked the opinion of the Apaches, Navajos, Iroquois, Cherokees and Hurons? On the other side there are arrogant vile colonizers and invaders. To the Lviv/Ivano-Frankivsk regions there is Russian land. And I don't care what they want. Those who hate Russians should go to Europe or Lviv. It will be Ukraine from 6 regions. Let them zigging there.
  4. DO
    +9
    21 March 2024 17: 21
    in the liberated territories of the MF, it is possible to hold elections to a certain representative body, say, the Parliament of Little Russia, which, in turn, will form executive authorities and local government bodies.

    The SVO can be formally completed by the liberation of all “new” territories within constitutional boundaries. The Little Russian Federation will then liberate the rest of Ukraine from the power of the Kyiv regime with the active support of the RF Armed Forces.

    Author, where do you get such a naive opinion that Ukrainians in the newly liberated territories will elect a parliament that will organize a Ukrainian army from the very people who just fought brutally with the Russian army, and people in this new Ukrainian army will massively and deliberately fight with Ukrainian Nazis - the same as they themselves were just now?
    What is much more likely is that this new parliament will organize “partisan” detachments that will help the enemy, and not Russian troops at all.
    As in the Soviet post-war years, only Russian authorities and the direct action of Russian laws will be able to ensure peace and law and order in the liberated Ukrainian territories.
  5. +3
    21 March 2024 17: 36
    As part of modern Ukraine, there are regions that can be annexed to the Russian Federation immediately, there are some regions that can be annexed to the Russian Federation with infringement of political rights during complete denazification, and there are regions with a hostile population that cannot be annexed to Russia.
    Each group needs its own approach.
    All of Ukraine needs to be liberated. Otherwise, after some time there will be war again.
    And then, each group has its own scenario.
    Those who can be joined.
    In areas with pro-Romanian, pro-Hungarian and pro-Polish populations, hold referendums.
    Based on the results of referendums with Romania, Hungary and Poland, conclude relevant agreements.
    You can change it on site for money. But with the mandatory recognition of the new borders of Russia and the mandatory inclusion of the transferred territories in the composition of the corresponding countries.
    Ukraine, as such, will not remain, which means there will be no reason for territorial and property claims for several generations.
    And if a new state appears on the remnants of Ukraine, then over time it will certainly become anti-Russia. The West will try.
    1. -1
      21 March 2024 17: 54
      What pro-Romanian, pro-Hungarian territories are you talking about? Maybe stop repeating the nonsense of the “historian”, according to which the bloody Stalin took something away from someone...

      excerpt from Wikipedia about the city of Chernivtsi, the same one that you and others like you consider pro-Romanian: According to a survey conducted by the International Republican Institute in April-May 2023, 82% of the city’s population spoke Ukrainian at home, 15% spoke Russian, Romanian - 2%[

      once again, in TWO THOUSAND TWENTY-THREE, 15 percent of Chernivtsi residents spoke RUSSIAN...

      I won’t repeat that feverish nonsense about Hungarians in tailcoats from Transcarpathian villages...
      1. 0
        21 March 2024 22: 28
        Are questions of language and a certain historical community not being overly fetishized? Take North and South Korea - they have the same language, their historical community is much higher than that of Russia and Ukraine, the fact that they are one people does not raise any doubts among anyone on both sides of the border. That did not stop them from enthusiastically multiplying each other by zero at one time, and even now the possibility of unification is not visible.
        So, dividing the territories of Ukraine into friend or foe based on the prevailing language and certain maps of past centuries is an unpromising and pointless matter. After all, there are also maps where there is no Russia, but there is the Ulus of Jochi of the Mongol Empire of the Chingizids.
      2. 0
        22 March 2024 17: 03
        You are too quick to label things.
        The ownership of the listed territories raises questions not only for me.
        That is why I think - first a referendum and preferably with the involvement of these countries and international organizations.
        But based on the results of the referendum, a decision should be made so that in the future there will be no questions or complaints.
        Is it nonsense to make decisions based on the will of the people?
      3. +2
        22 March 2024 23: 24
        I won’t repeat that feverish nonsense about Hungarians in tailcoats from Transcarpathian villages...

        Well, don't repeat the nonsense. It’s not a nonsense fact that the former Hungarian part of western Ukraine is still inhabited today by 150.000 ethnic Hungarians who live, speak, and write in their native language, and whom the Khokhlor regime oppresses in every possible way for the purpose of evacuation, including through the influx of crests there. The historical part of Austria-Hungary was never part of the Russian Empire, much less the fantasy state “Ukraine”. As for the tailcoats, I will refrain from commenting.
  6. +4
    21 March 2024 18: 40
    If we don’t know where the borders will be, then is it worth talking about a sanitary zone? There will be day, there will be food.
  7. +6
    21 March 2024 18: 59
    The creation of a new state on the territory of Ukraine is naivety and a betrayal of the interests of Russian citizens. Who will allow the creation of this state and ensure its legitimacy? In 1991, Ukraine was seized from Greater Russia, called the Soviet Union, at the expense of traitors, with the help of NATO, and it was made an enemy - anti-Russia. In fact, on Russian soil the “elite” of the Russian Federation together with NATO, i.e. the enemy of Russia were going to create a new state. Translated into public language, the comprador authorities of the Russian Federation want to forever legitimize the coup d'état that those in power carried out in 1991 and calmly return to the “holy times.” Cool. They consider everyone below par, not understanding.
  8. -3
    21 March 2024 19: 05
    .. Within its framework, it is proposed that on the territory of Slobozhanshchina and, possibly, Chernihiv region, instead of the “gray zone” of the buffer belt after the liberation of Kharkov and Sumy, to proclaim, say, the Little Russian Federation (MF) as the legal successor of that pre-Maidan Ukraine

    Exactly, great idea, Marzhetsky is smart!
    Of course, we need a proxy state, to which we provide every possible support. Provided that our country is headed by a lawyer with a demanding attitude to legal purity - even if many others in this world don’t care about legal purity - the Little Russia proxy will be a good option for hitting the NATO mongrels on their “inviolable” territory.
    1. -3
      21 March 2024 20: 34
      It's true. As well as the NATO mongrels, answer back on the “new Little Russia” without hesitation. Tea is not nuclear Russia.
  9. 0
    21 March 2024 20: 59
    Nobody wants to say who is going to live in the new state? And what are they going to call it? laughing
    1. 0
      21 March 2024 22: 54
      Look what's happening in Uman and Anatevka. All questions will disappear on their own. These faul jude that fought against Russia.
  10. -2
    21 March 2024 23: 14
    Questions, questions. Yes, Ukrainians are not ideological and don’t want to fight, and you can’t force them. But if they have their own republic, then perhaps they will go. One way or another, the Ukrainians must be forced to fight Bandera, they will not be able to sit out while the Nazis fire at them..
  11. +2
    22 March 2024 06: 22
    I agree with the first and second, the third does not work, Kyiv has 40 billion of its own reserves, while Western assistance may decrease, but not stop.
    Discussions about the creation of some kind of Little Russia are not serious, primarily because people do not want to be Little Russians. The idea with two Ukraines, pro-Western and pro-Russian, was feasible in 14, but today it is no longer feasible, Moscow is paying for the strategic mistakes of 14 and 22, the Kremlin understands the strategic hopelessness of the company and is betting on the bird in the hand.
  12. +4
    22 March 2024 06: 27
    What were Hitler's plans for Ukraine? Clear this territory of Slavs and populate it with Germans. What is NATO doing in Ukraine now? Clears the territory of Slavs. Europe needs a clean territory, Europe does not need Ukrainians.
    1. +2
      22 March 2024 12: 44
      Well, why, then who will clean the bourgeois toilets, asses and stand like that? “White masters” always need slaves.
      During the war, the Nazis forcibly brought Russians into slavery, and here the suckers happily run and skip, ready-made slaves!
  13. +5
    22 March 2024 08: 26
    You can create Micro-Little-Medium Russia, but for the next 50-60 years they must be under the occupation and protectorate of Russia with unified legislation. The wild wild West lives in the jurisdiction of the United States, it is being Nazified, but we are having denazification. By the way, they can almost unanimously vote for joining, manipulating the masses in Russia at a higher level than in Ukraine, if they do not grovel before the United States.
  14. 0
    22 March 2024 09: 45
    The Little Russian Federation will then liberate the rest of Ukraine from the power of the Kyiv regime with the active support of the RF Armed Forces.

    Now! This is only what future Little Russians dream of! :)) You will look for them in the basements..
    1. -1
      22 March 2024 10: 24
      It’s good if not in the caches recourse
  15. 0
    22 March 2024 10: 25
    Maybe we should win first and then rant? Otherwise, this is still very difficult.
  16. +1
    22 March 2024 11: 45
    All this, IMHO, is a bunch of articles far removed from life about “a new state must appear” and fight for and instead of Russia.
    Even the Kremlin and Medvedev have already swept previous similar slogans under the rug.
    But there is a chance. Putin will say, and a bunch of volunteer tankers will temporarily become “Little Russians” volunteers...
  17. +1
    22 March 2024 12: 39
    What kind of nonsense is this about just a stupid extension of the front line?! In the kilometer, it will of course increase for some time, but what will be the effect of this! Among the crests it will not increase and the troops will not expand, armed? Or do they have unlimited resources?
    Yes, their front will immediately crumble if we even start attacking from the north!
    And so go west from Donbass so that the front line decreases. The front before the Westernization will be exactly the same length as it is now in the Donbass. Only now the concentration of our troops will be greater!
  18. +1
    22 March 2024 13: 31
    There is nothing for any “new state” to do there. They didn’t want to live like neighbors and there was no need to give the “fool a written bag” - it drives him crazy.
  19. 0
    22 March 2024 13: 35
    In connection with the above, I would like to return again to the previously repeatedly voiced concept of the post-war reorganization of Ukraine. Within its framework, on the territory of the Slobozhanshchina and, possibly, the Chernihiv region, instead of the gray zone of the buffer belt after the liberation of Kharkov and Sumy, it is proposed to proclaim, say, the Little Russian Federation (MF) as the legal successor of that pre-Maidan Ukraine.

    In fact, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions are already Russian territories, temporarily, partially occupied by Ukraine. There is no turning back.
  20. -1
    22 March 2024 16: 46
    The idea of ​​​​creating some kind of sanitary, or buffer, zone in the Ukrainian border area in order to protect the old Russian regions, for all its apparent attractiveness, has a lot of drawbacks. However, with a sound approach, it can become the key to solving the Square problem as a whole, its real demilitarization and denazification.

    This very idea was born in the head of the enemy! As soon as this neoplasm grows fat, it will immediately rush to look for a new master in order to sell itself again at a higher price.
    Verdict: the right to statehood is denied! am
  21. 0
    22 March 2024 23: 07
    The idea is good, necessary, realistic, although cynical, but, as they said in the days of my youth, “that’s the way it is.” It is unlikely that it will be possible to completely occupy the entire former Ukraine, so it is better to create a surrogate for it in the form of a semi-holy pseudo-independent state with a neutral status and a suitable constitution that can be controlled.
  22. +1
    23 March 2024 12: 09
    There is no need to rush into some kind of federation. First the occupation zone. The zone should have local self-government up to the regional level, which should deal with public utilities, law enforcement, health care and education, entrepreneurship and tax collection for local needs. Well, the federation is there... further.... further.
  23. 0
    24 March 2024 17: 12
    Ukrainian Autonomous Okrug of Russia.
  24. 0
    25 March 2024 19: 34
    There's no need to rush. Celebratory dancing is premature. First, the territory needs to be developed. Then decide what kind of state to build from the remains. It's clear that it's friendly.
    And behind the Ukrainian territories, Hungarians, Poles, Romanians and God knows who else have already lined up. You wouldn’t have to fight them off either.
  25. +1
    27 March 2024 14: 41
    There is no need for any Little Russians. There must be Kyiv, Kharkov, Odessa, etc. regions of the Russian Federation. Ukraine as a state must remain in history
  26. 0
    31 March 2024 08: 02
    There is no need for any Little Russians. There should be Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy, Chernigov, Nikolaev, etc. regions of the Russian Federation.
    Ukraine as a state must remain in history