Why Ukraine should become the foundation for the revival of "USSR 2.0"

Why Ukraine should become the foundation for the revival of "USSR 2.0"

The day before, December 30, 2022, exactly 100 years have passed since the founding of the USSR. In wonderful articlededicated to this momentous event, a colleague asked whether the revival of the Soviet Union is now possible, and if so, in what form. Let's try to speculate on this extremely vital topic.


In fact, the creation of "USSR 2.0" is not so much a theoretical issue as a purely practical one. The choice before us is small: either we are building a new Union in place of the old one, or the very survival of the Russian Federation will be in question. No more, no less.

"USSR 2.0"


Today, all normal people dream that the NWO will end as soon as possible, naturally, with our victory, so that after that it will be possible to live a normal life again. Alas, it won't work that way. The old life is gone forever. The special operation cannot end even on the Polish border, since no one in the collective West, even in the event of the capitulation of the Kyiv regime, will begin to cancel the regime of the new Cold War. Two factors should be taken into account that will determine the entire future Russian policies.

First - is economy. Over the past three decades, the Russian Federation has been integrated into the international division of labor as a semi-colony of raw materials. All that was required of us was natural resources at a reasonable price, weapons in the Third World, and some Technologyinherited from the USSR. What this ultimately led to, we have all seen enough over the past 8 years, and the NWO became a complete “finish”, when Russia began to be mercilessly subjected to sanctions.

So far, the domestic economy is, so to speak, on adrenaline. But we must be realistic and understand that the gigantic amount of restrictive measures imposed on our country, in the absence of access to advanced technologies, equipment and markets, will certainly have an impact. We will all feel the consequences on the horizon of 3-5 years, and we need to seriously prepare for this by changing the very structure of the Russian economy towards diversification.

Second - this is the law of nature, about which Aristotle wrote that she does not tolerate emptiness. Wherever the young Russian Federation left after the collapse of the USSR, our enemies have come. The Warsaw Pact countries are now all in the NATO bloc, under it de facto Georgia and Ukraine. Turkey crushes Armenia and all of Central Asia. The choice is simple: either the “backyard” will be ours, or the enemy will be in charge there, and the third, alas, is not given.

The above means that Russia will simply have to continue the special operation after Ukraine, but in a different form and on a different territory, with different goals and objectives. For a banal economic survival, we will have to gather the former Soviet republics around us, creating a single sales market, carry out large-scale reindustrialization, and restore industrial cooperation. For maximum self-sufficiency in the form of autarky or semi-autarky, you will need to gather under your wing from 400 to 500 million consumers. At the same time, we must be prepared to face the resistance of national elites and such daring international players as Turkey. But there is simply no alternative. Or the interests of the "sultan" and others, or Russian.

Union State


In what form should the reconstruction of "USSR 2.0" take place? Let's just say that before the events of 2014 there was a non-zero probability that it could grow out of the Eurasian Economic Union over time. After the Maidan took place in Ukraine, Russia took the Crimea and Sevastopol, the DPR and LPR were proclaimed, and the rest of the Square was under the rule of the Nazis, this integration project de facto quietly and imperceptibly died. Now all that remains of the realistic is the format of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.

Yes, so far this union exists to a large extent on paper, but it has significant potential for integration and subsequent expansion. In one of публикаций As early as November 24, 2021, we found out that in its form the Union State is something between a “soft federation” and a confederation. The agreement on its creation provides for the creation of such supranational authorities as a common Parliament, the Supreme State Council, the Council of Ministers, the Court, the Accounts Chamber and the Standing Committee. The legislation of both countries should be unified, a common flag, coat of arms, anthem, and a single currency should be introduced.

Yes, Belarus in previous decades tried to evade real integration with Russia within the framework of the Union State, preferring to receive only preferences from its special status. But now what?

Minsk itself also has few options: either unite with Moscow, or follow the path of Kyiv with all the ensuing consequences.

Will there be a third?


As a matter of fact, it is in this vein that the answer to the question of how exactly it is possible to decide the future fate of the former Square lies. The question of whether Russia, Ukraine and Belarus can unite into a Union State, we considered in detail in article dated November 26, 2021.

Yes, it is not only possible, but necessary. It is necessary to create a new, pro-Russian Ukraine on the territory of the Sloboda and Chernihiv regions, declaring it the legal successor of the pre-Maidan one, and the Zelensky regime must be denied recognition as a terrorist one. On the basis of the backbone of the People's Militia of the LDNR, it is necessary to create the Ukrainian Volunteer Army and accept volunteers not only from Ukraine, Russia and Belarus, but also from all over the world. Together with UDAR, which will be at the tip of the spear, Russian troops will be able to liberate the rest of the country step by step.

Nazi criminals and their accomplices will need to be brought to the tribunal, the fugitives will need to be caught all over the world, like the Israeli secret services of the German Nazis. After denazification and lustration, each Ukrainian region will have to hold referendums on self-determination, where the population will decide for itself whether to join the Russian Federation or remain part of the new federal state. But this does not mean that Russia will have to leave, leaving behind a void.

On the contrary, a reformed post-war Ukraine would have to Sign in into the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus with common supranational governing bodies. The backbone of its power and law enforcement agencies should be represented by people from the People's Militia of the LDNR. In order to avoid a recurrence of the Maidan, Russian military bases will have to be located near Kyiv and Lvov on an indefinite basis.

Ukraine is the cornerstone that underlies the foundation of the future "USSR 2.0", and this is how it should be treated.
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  1. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 1 January 2023 11: 45
    +4
    Hey, Comrade again. Marzhetsky with spotlights from the sofa.
    To create a common market with Uzbeks, Tajiks and others is such a thing. They are already brought to Russia in trainloads and they issue residence permits and citizenship at an accelerated pace, perhaps just in order to deepen the domestic market. And what, did ordinary Russians get much better from this? And by uniting with them in an alliance, we will get absolutely uncontrolled migration to Russia. Few sheep are slaughtered on the streets of Russian cities? Few Russian women and children are being raped, Russian men are being beaten and killed?
    Team up with crests to get an increase in theft and robbery?
    Take an example from Norway, a great example of a state in which everything is expensive, but everyone can afford it. And alien ghouls are cut off by such prices and the domestic market feels fine, despite the small population. We need to work in this direction, and not in hanging ghoul-eaters around our necks.
    1. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
      Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 1 January 2023 15: 42
      0
      Yes, I drew it!!!! Tired of erasing.... request
    2. Pro100 Offline Pro100
      Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 1 January 2023 16: 05
      +1
      The existence of micro-countries and large empires are two big differences in politics, economics, and society. In addition, microcountries cannot exist on their own. Therefore, they try to enter into alliances and associations with the maximum benefit for themselves (or under the protectorate) and this is where their policy is based. Some are successful, some are not. In empires, the opposite is true.
    3. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 1 January 2023 23: 21
      +5
      I want to remind you that we already lived in the same country with Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kyrgyz. Come on, remind me about the mass migration of Asians to central Russia in those years?
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 1 January 2023 11: 48
    +12
    must, must, must, must...

    There is a historical chance ... but the quality of performance .... alas.

    For 6 months now, there have been only explanations in the media why everything is going "as always", assumptions, wins, and an attempt to pull an owl on the globe ...

    Well, what kind of "Volunteer Army" ?? When they openly write - they swept everyone away, there is no one to work in the mines, let's give it to the "optimizers"?
    What kind of "tribunal" - when Azovtsev is exchanged for "unnecessary" Medvedchuk? What is the "Backbone of the People's Militia of the LDNR." when they wrote, Our soldiers simply feed them, and officials intercept all the humanitarian aid?

    Alas. while it is not "Russian Spring-2 in the USSR-2", but the standard scenario:
    Imperialism, Edro, the poor, rising prices, the profits of the oligarchs ....
  3. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 1 January 2023 12: 00
    -11
    Marzetsky is a typical couch propagandist.
    There will be no "USSR 2". There will be a terrible monster, where the inhabitants will receive all the "charms" of the USSR in the form of screwed screws to the maximum, and the elite will live in luxury. More like North Korea-2

    I don't want to go to such a country.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 January 2023 18: 57
      +7
      Quote: rainy
      I don't want to go to such a country.

      Do not want? Suitcase, train station and the country of your desire.
    2. KWW Offline KWW
      KWW (Vyacheslav Karari) 3 January 2023 06: 13
      0
      Isn't that kind of country now?
  4. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 1 January 2023 12: 21
    -10
    Maybe enough of these fairy tales about the USSR 2.0.
    Who is it intended for? For idiots?
    No one will be reunited, including Belarus.
    Lukashenka has stated a thousand times that he is an ardent supporter of the sovereignty of Belarus and its independence.
    And all integration should be built according to the European model of the European Union.
    Did Russia initiate the abolition of the Belovezhskaya Accords or Belarus?
    So all this talk is nonsense. There will never be any USSR 2.0.

    The war between Russia and Ukraine is purely imperialistic and predatory.
    They are taking away the resource that Russia urgently needs, including the sea, ports, corridors ...
    All talk about the Nazis, the defense of Russian lands is a scam. Or are Russians in Chernigov, Odessa, Kharkov not interested?
    Of course, there are Nazis and scumbags, but there are no more of them than those who shouted to Moscow Stop feeding the Caucasus.
    I already wrote that there are no more Nazis in Ukraine than there are drug addicts in Moscow.
    Because of this war? It was possible to negotiate for another 20 years, but .... time is rushing.

    The shelling of Donetsk - because of this?
    We come to the main cause of the imperialist war.
    By the way, here lies the question of why the shelling has not yet stopped.
    It's all about the strategic resource - the lithium deposit on the territory of the DPR. Huge secret SBU reserves.
    The United States does not want to give Russia "white gold" and there is an undercover bargaining. In the meantime, they are trading, Putin is holding Surovikin ..... he gives a medal.
    And the whole divorce with the Nazis and "nightingale" patriotism is for suckers.
    For a year, the Russian army stands in front of the Shevchenko field.
    And the shelling of Donetsk continues??? Did not comply with Putin's order-to stop shelling???

    Maybe. that Ukraine made a knight's move and gave the United States a lithium deposit for US assistance ...
    And Putin cannot step over this, but simply for pissing ...
    Otherwise, how to explain that the year is the NWO, and Donetsk is being shelled?

    Lithium is the material of the future. Tesla without lithium batteries - what is it? What about all cordless tools?
    And where to get material for a giant plant in Kaliningrad?
    There are practically no deposits in Russia ... only in the Far North and in question.
    Projects in Latina and with China - zilch.
    So what is left for February 2022 - only the DPR ....
    1. Pravodel Offline Pravodel
      Pravodel (ppp) 1 January 2023 15: 33
      +7
      banderlogs for 8 years slaughtered, killed, tortured Russians in the east - those who wanted to speak their native language, and not jump on the Maidan for pink panties from geyropa ... Ukraine organized after the Maidan a friendship train with Banderlogs to Crimea for showdowns and killings of Crimean residents. Ukraine shot, quartered, burned dissenters who were traveling by bus to Kyiv to resist the Maidan. Ukraine starved women, old people, children in the basements, did not give them any water or bread, and shot those who came out of the basement to get water from sniper rifles. Ukraine has turned Mariupol into one concentration camp to mock the inhabitants. Ukraine tied dissenters to poles and beat them with iron rods and then killed them...
      So, Hiker (Dmitry), we don’t need to tell fables here about imperialism, about white and fluffy Ukraine ..
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    2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 1 January 2023 16: 19
      +4
      According to CBO: what happened, it happened. There is no lithium here. He is not well-explored. Stock data is not clear. Lithium is mined in several countries. Our political leadership in the NWO operation received, as Chernomyrdin said:

      We wanted the best, but it turned out as always

      If those troops that surrounded Kyiv went to Kharkov, then Kharkov would be ours and the situation with the Donbass would be completely different. It would not have been necessary to storm the Donbass fortified area.
      1. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 1 January 2023 16: 40
        +4
        lithium in the Donbass is the old mrii of the Ukrainians about the "treasures of the hetman" in a new way ...
    3. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 January 2023 19: 02
      +1
      Quote from Hiker
      Of course, there are Nazis and scumbags, but there are no more of them than those who shouted to Moscow Stop feeding the Caucasus.

      Vlasov is a hero of Russia? Are there monuments or Vlasov streets in Moscow and other cities? Do Russian officials have portraits of Vlasov hanging in their offices? It's one thing when scumbags just scream, and another thing when they are in power.
    4. Clement Offline Clement
      Clement (Clementius) 2 January 2023 01: 33
      0
      I heard a lot of opinions and theories, but yours is just the level of an American housewife.
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  5. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 1 January 2023 12: 23
    +3
    The Russian people have already lost the main battles on the home front. About 50-30 years ago, he blew to the ground both his workers' party and his country. And most importantly, as well as the most interesting, I did not understand this !!!

    Now it's time to blow everything on the military fronts ......
  6. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 1 January 2023 12: 24
    +4
    The reason for the collapse of the USSR was the betrayal of the elites, the Soviet elites.
    It turns out that the elites are not the best that the nation has, but on the contrary, the so-called elites are the dregs of the nation. More precisely, I can’t, they will ban me.
    Are the current elites better than the Soviet ones?
    So what kind of revival of the USSR can we talk about?
    Who will lead it, Zyuganov with his lovers of moose hunting?!
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 1 January 2023 12: 47
      +1
      Quote: prior
      The reason for the collapse of the USSR was the betrayal of the elites, the Soviet elites.
      It turns out that the elites - .....
      Who will lead it, Zyuganov with his lovers of moose hunting?!

      Join the party and oust hunters from it .... There are also no statutory requirements that everyone should hunt moose.
      And if you don’t like Zyuganov and his party, create another, correct one .....

      Or at least ask yourself the question: "why among more than 100 million there is not a single leader respected by these millions?"

      I believe, because the people with the feudal psychology of the 17th century need a ready-made Tsar-Sovereign. And a party whose strength is in the support of its program by the people, such a people don’t care ....

      Our blessed people generally find such words as "party" or "party program" ridiculous. We are not Jews... We are more like Africans. In the shower.

      Therefore, you will never be banned here!

      Because YOU have the psychology of a serf ..... 17th century. Who is waiting for the arrival of a kind gentleman. You are the one who is needed - "the hero of our time".!!!
      1. Sergei Fonov Offline Sergei Fonov
        Sergei Fonov (sergey fonov) 2 January 2023 16: 41
        -1
        Ivan 2022, you advise joining a party, my close friend joined one of the Russian parliamentary parties in 2014, he was never invited to a meeting, when he expressed a desire to be an election observer, he received a call from Moscow and began to wonder if he passed the Ukrainian passport, and if he did not hand it over, then he cannot be an observer. Why did this happen? The thing is that he publicly, at a rally, on television, argued with Konstantinov, Konstantinov insisted on holding a referendum on May 25, and he insisted on holding it immediately, it was March 6, 2014, the people supported him and held a referendum on March 16. As they write now, a quick referendum helped to avoid a war with Ukraine at that time. Remember the fairy tale how a man fed two generals? So, thanks to our peasant, some became heroes for the exemplary fulfillment of the task set by the president, others for the shown patriotism as honorary Crimeans, and he was not even allowed to the elections as an observer, we have many people who are patriots of their personal well-being, hence so many troubles.
  7. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 1 January 2023 12: 31
    0
    As long as the war is going on, there can be no question of any unification. Lukashenka is doing his best to stay away. It is unlikely that he will succeed, but he will definitely not unite with the warring state.
    The resistance of the local elites will not only be great. It will be huge. And they (these same "elites") will throw all their resources into creating the image of the enemy.

    I see the main problem in the discrepancy between the goals and methods of Russia's foreign policy. If the question is that it is necessary to create conditions for integration, then, at the first stage, it is necessary to switch to market relations with all our neighbors. This seems illogical only at first glance. We talk about integration and introduce market relations. But this is only at first glance.

    Local princelings and emirs want to have loot. This is their main purpose of life. The compulsion to cooperate with Russia lies in limiting their income. As long as they enjoy preferences from Russia in the form of discounts on resources and sell their "extra mouths" to the same Russia, they will not agree to integration. All these post-Soviet formations are not viable. This applies to the Baltics, Transcaucasia and Central Asia. The same applies to Ukraine and Belarus. Take away cheap energy resources from the father and he will start screaming about the betrayal of the interests of the fraternal peoples.
    The only way to start integration processes is to exchange cheap resources for political "independence". If they want to harm Russia (on the example of Ukraine), then let their content fall on the West. Poverty is guaranteed to them. And then the local "elite" will lose money and get internal problems.
    Maybe then their fattened brains will start thinking.
  8. silver169 Offline silver169
    silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 1 January 2023 12: 35
    -10
    I haven't read such rare nonsense in a long time! The USSR - 2, at best, will end up the same way as the USSR - 1. And no one is going to unite with the Russian Federation, an industrially backward country,
    1. Snail N9 Offline Snail N9
      Snail N9 (Snail) 2 January 2023 08: 51
      +1
      O! USSR 2! Cool. With the "Eat Russia" party instead of the CPSU, with the ruling class of the bourgeoisie, with class stratification into exploiters and exploited, with priests, with the police instead of the police, with the "oprichnina" and other attributes of an autocratic, kleptocratic, capitalist state. yes
  9. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 1 January 2023 12: 50
    0
    Quote: silver169
    industrially backward country

    This is not true. Russia is not a loser, not on feet of clay, and is capable of waging any war with the complete annihilation and erasure of any enemy to dust.
    But ... in imperialist wars there is always an element of collusion and sharing of resources, dough, territory.
    And here the meanest wins.
    Russia has never been famous for cunning. therefore, it may lose this war for Shevchenko's "white gold" .... Maryinka is an indicator. We'll see.
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 1 January 2023 13: 14
      +5
      Quote from Hiker
      Russia has never been famous for cunning. therefore, it may lose this war for Shevchenko's "white gold" .... Maryinka is an indicator. We'll see.

      LOOK AT- Enough.
      Our society has always been famous for its traitors and cunning scoundrels, whose favorite trick has always been to work for fools and "simple dull ones" ....
      Like: "Ah ... eklmn ... we were again deceived by everyone ......"
  10. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 1 January 2023 13: 22
    +7
    Quote: ivan2022
    LOOK AT- Enough.
    Our society has always been famous for its traitors and cunning scoundrels, whose favorite trick has always been to work for fools and "simple dull ones" ....
    Like: "Ah ... eklmn ... we were again deceived by everyone ......"

    Well, yes .. it’s unpleasant to watch how Putin often spoke. that Gorbachev was deceived by NATO, and now it turns out that Merkel and Oland deceived Putin ..... Only one reaction to this - are you all naive and gullible fools there, or what?
  11. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 1 January 2023 13: 27
    -1
    Ukraine should not exist at all. It was Lenin who invented it. She never was. And Israel is at war with us, using its puppets in Moscow and Kyiv. That is why we have so many migrants, they close hospitals and cancel pensions.
    They will throw us the destroyed territory of Ukraine, and it doesn’t cost anything like that there. Ukraine is now even more neglected
    1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 1 January 2023 23: 28
      +4
      in the world now there are about 195 countries ... in 1945 there were only 70 ... that is, you seriously think that 125 countries in the world are not real ??? maybe stop repeating the tales of the crazy?
  12. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 1 January 2023 13: 28
    +2
    This is not serious. As the people say, you won’t be forced to be nice. Crimea was annexed by the will of the inhabitants of Crimea. If we create CCC2 by force, then it will be such a bomb, laid under the existence of Russia itself.
  13. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 1 January 2023 13: 40
    +7
    The USSR was based on a different political system, and its unity was based on the refusal of its center (the RSFSR) of sovereignty in relation to its other parts - the union republics.
    Now, without a planned economy and under the capitalist system, such a refusal looks like a utopia.
    The internal business elites of the Russian Federation will never give up their interests in favor of the interests of their closest neighbors.
    Therefore, no monolithic state like the USSR is now possible.
    If we talk about the revival of the Russian Empire 2.0, then this requires more economic influence, because the times when empires were based on the power of arms have already passed - 100 years have passed. Therefore, the maximum that we can count on is gradual integration into our economic space, proportional to our common development. And here everything will depend on how we can resist and develop in the conditions of the economic war unleashed against us by the West.
    1. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 1 January 2023 17: 43
      +2
      The USSR was based on a different political system, and its unity was based on the refusal of its center (the RSFSR) of sovereignty in relation to its other parts - the union republics.
      Now, without a planned economy and under the capitalist system, such a refusal looks like a utopia.

      Alas, even under that political system, such a concept worked for only three generations, then what happened happened.
      1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 2 January 2023 19: 19
        0
        The USSR could have continued to exist if the right conditions had been created. To do this, it was necessary to modernize both the constitution and economic conditions. The economy should be a market economy, but to some extent it should also be regulated. The regions of the USSR were supposed to live mainly at their own expense, and if there were subsidies, then independence should be curtailed. Total control over cash flows should have been established, which in fact did not exist in some republics. Even with one ruling party, the Politburo had to be replaced regularly. Of course, both the army and the KGB were supposed to be of central subordination, which was real. The court and the prosecutor's office were not supposed to depend on local officials, which was in fact.
  14. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 1 January 2023 13: 41
    -1
    Everything that has been happening in the former USSR and its environment for more than 30 years, determined by a single force. That force is the US and the UK and their Plan. The Anglo-Saxons took advantage of the internal vulnerability of the USSR, staging a coup in Moscow and destroying the Union with the hands of the leadership of the CPSU.
    Having formed puppet regimes in Russia and Ukraine, they led them through a ten-year phase of destruction, after which they made both countries a “lighter” for the war in Europe.
    Ukraine was supposed to form an “aggressor” out of Russia.
    Russia was "sharpened" for war in Europe and death in it. Its goal is to weaken Europe in order to “save” it by the Anglo-Saxons and enslave it. The Anglo-Saxons are probably going to use the territory of Russia, its nuclear weapons and part of the population as "cannon fodder" against China.
    This plan is now being successfully implemented. The result will be the accession of the United States and Great Britain on two continents.
    In this way, on the way to the USSR-2 is the comprador power of Russia and the plan of the Anglos, as a result of which the country should be destroyed.
    If Russia succeeds in gaining control over itself, the first thing it will have to do is coercion by the threat of annihilation of the USA and Great Britain to abandon their plan and retreat on all positions. Only after that it will be possible to think about the restoration of people's power and the revival of the USSR
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 1 January 2023 14: 42
      -1
      coercion by the threat of annihilation of the USA and Great Britain to abandon their plan and retreat on all positions.

      This will save Europe from slavery, and the world - from the third world war.
      Nuclear weapons will restore their role as a factor in global peace on the planet, which they lost after the subordination of Russia to the Anglo-Saxons
    2. Pro100 Offline Pro100
      Pro100 (Vladimir Babaev) 1 January 2023 15: 32
      +1
      Figuratively speaking, in the 90s we climbed into the ass and instead of getting out of there, we tried to settle down there and were glad that we did not fall deeper. But constantly sitting in the ass is fraught, so now we are trying to get out to the surface.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 1 January 2023 16: 12
        0
        But constantly sitting in the ass is fraught with now trying to get to the surface

        Unfortunately, even this is not Vladimir. This step is still to be done Our "territorial conquests" and the NWO itself are in line with the Anglo-Saxon plan. Now any provocation in Ukraine, or just the readiness of the Anglo-Saxons will lead to a deadly war for us with NATO
    3. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 1 January 2023 17: 41
      +2
      Here's how you fit in one head:

      The Anglo-Saxons took advantage of the internal vulnerability of the USSR, staging a coup in Moscow and destroying the Union with the hands of the leadership of the CPSU.

      and a little lower:

      Only after that it will be possible to think about the restoration of people's power and the revival of the USSR

      People's power - this, one must think, is the same, with whose hands the first Union was destroyed?
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 1 January 2023 18: 15
        -2
        People's power - this, one must think, is the same, with whose hands the first Union was destroyed?

        You didn't read carefully. I repeat for you:

        Anglo-Saxons took advantage internal vulnerability USSR, having staged a coup in Moscow and breaking up with his hands guidesand the CPSU Union.

        Who else can and should make decisions on the life of the country if not the people themselves? Oligarchs? External hosts?
        Internal vulnerability is not a "defect" or "flaw" of a people. Every nation has its own strengths and weaknesses. Vulnerable can only be the system of government of the country.
        The vulnerability that the Anglo-Saxons exploited was imperfection adopted in the USSR models of socialism, which does not take into account our two weaknesses:
        - the need for external incentives for human activity
        - the tendency of him and society to get used to negative phenomena
        During the years of the first five-year plans and the Second World War, these features were compensated by the challenge to the very existence of the country and the hard work of all elements of society within a single people's ruling party, its continuous self-control and elimination of shortcomings.
        В new national model of socialism the preservation of this high tension of the inner life must be laid down independently from the tension of the external situation and other principles that bring all the mechanisms of society into permanent working, "stretched" state
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 January 2023 10: 48
        0
        I will add one more, very important factor of the vulnerability of the USSR.
        The revolution and Soviet power were originally built on atheism. It was inevitable, because. religion has been made its mainstay by opposing forces. During the time of the USSR, atheism could have entered the genetics of the people, but did not take root. Implicitly, at the basis of the system of moral coordinates of the builders of communism, Orthodox Christianity still stood. These were universal human constants.
        It was faith in God that was the core of tsarist power in old Russia. It rested, on the one hand, on the people's trust in the authorities, on the other, a sense of duty of the authorities towards the people. The lack of faith in God in the way of life of the country and the people played a role in the fact that the top of the party simply sold the country and people into slavery to the Anglo-Saxons.
        As has been said, there is no contradiction between socialism and faith in God. Moreover, our experience has shown that this pivot is vital to his new national model
    4. sap Offline sap
      sap (Alex) 1 January 2023 18: 19
      +4
      Only after that it will be possible to think about the restoration of people's power and the revival of the USSR

      All true, but exactly the opposite! The West, as rightly noted by the hands of party functionaries, crushed precisely the people's power, and only then began to lead the "gullible" chiefs by the nose, beckoning with a carrot to integrate into the Western world on an equal footing. Therefore, the only way to restore the USSR (2.0 in the period) is the restoration of truly people's power. It is for this that the demand is now growing among all the peoples of the former Soviet republics, the national bourgeoisie has never been a supporter of integration. Neither then, nor even now, having power, when all these national gangs of thieves can monetize and launder the stolen back in the era of "developed socialism." Only historical (genetic) memory peoples about justice is capable of becoming those lines of force of a magnet attracting to the center. No other reasons can become unifying in the exploitative realities of the modern life of the common people, and the uncontrolled panting of the comprador national bourgeoisie in them.
      1. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 2 January 2023 18: 54
        +1
        So for this we need a Bolshevik party. Is there such a party?
  15. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 1 January 2023 14: 25
    +1
    Sergey Evgenievich Happy New Year! I enjoy reading your articles, thank you and creative success to you.
  16. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 1 January 2023 16: 27
    +1
    Quote: The Truth
    banderlogs for 8 years slaughtered, killed, tortured Russians in the east - those who wanted to speak their native language, and not jump on the Maidan for pink panties from geyropa ... Ukraine organized after the Maidan a friendship train with Banderlogs to Crimea for showdowns and killings of Crimean residents. Ukraine shot, quartered, burned dissenters who were traveling by bus to Kyiv to resist the Maidan. Ukraine starved women, old people, children in the basements, did not give them any water or bread, and shot those who came out of the basement to get water from sniper rifles. Ukraine has turned Mariupol into one concentration camp to mock the inhabitants. Ukraine tied dissenters to poles and beat them with iron rods and then killed them...
    So, Hiker (Dmitry), we don’t need to tell fables here about imperialism, about white and fluffy Ukraine ..

    Lay down smoothly.
    That's just... Russia has recognized both President Poroshenko and President Zelensky.
    Russia all these 8 years continued economic relations with Ukraine. Moreover, Russia continues to supply Ukraine with money for the transit of energy resources.
    What do you say to that?
  17. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 1 January 2023 16: 31
    -2
    The war should be only until complete victory, even more complete than in 1945. You can’t waste your money on trifles. If what is said here is done, then it will be the end of Russia and the entire Eurasian space. Ahead is only chaos, death and the absence of any order. Everyone who is against Russia should be swept away, like after a tsunami, or like after a super mega meteorite. Why don't you understand that it is possible to negotiate with the enemy, which is an implacable enemy, who despises you and considers you third-class creatures? "Do not believe, do not be afraid, do not ask" this should become the motto of Russia. Now and until now, everything is exactly the opposite.
  18. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 1 January 2023 16: 34
    -1
    Enough of the former USSR, when only 15 out of 2 republics were self-sufficient and one of them was Russia! And instead of strengthening its well-being, improving the life of its population, Russia is forced to give away the so-called "surpluses" to the "common pot"! So, the phrase that Russia fed the USSR was not born from scratch! And I also do not want numerous Asian "family" mobs to fill Russia! Of course, this is a contingent with a mentality and culture alien to Russians ... moreover, even hostile to the Russian mentality and culture! You can keep the Asians in a "bridle", hoping over time to "re-educate them ... provided they are relatively small in number! But what is happening now is something opposite! The invasion of a huge number of Asian migrants threatens Russia, threatens the integrity, well-being of the Russian people and peoples who have long inhabited the territory of the Russian Federation!
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  19. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 1 January 2023 16: 54
    0
    Ukraine is the cornerstone that underlies the foundation of the future "USSR 2.0",

    If you take this rottenness into the foundation of a union state, imagine the future of Russia. There should not be any state on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR with the inheritance of the name and traditions. Only entry in the form of constituent parts to neighboring countries, after referendums. Before the referendum, announce that the part of the territory that wants to remain independent takes on all the debts of today's Ukraine.
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 1 January 2023 18: 58
      -3
      Correctly
  20. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 1 January 2023 17: 35
    -5
    Even if we agree with the need to "gather the Russian lands," it does not automatically follow from here that this gathering must necessarily take place under the hand of Moscow. What city was called the mother of Russian cities?
  21. cold weather Offline cold weather
    cold weather (Anatoly) 1 January 2023 17: 48
    0
    How modest! Let's call this ukrodurd the Center of the Universe!
  22. syndicalist Online syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 1 January 2023 18: 07
    -1
    Absolutely not convincing. Why is the USSR obligatory and why is the participation of Ukraine obligatory? Just "to the heap" and "to be"? How can Ukraine, with its war-ravaged economy and industry, with a disloyal population, become the "cornerstone" of state education? Why can even small countries without their own raw materials and with an illiterate population develop into a modern technological country, but we cannot? It is clear that in the current situation they are trying to convince us that the whole world has always been against us and there is no chance to establish normal relations with it. But so far I do not see a single convincing fact that this is the case.
  23. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 1 January 2023 18: 32
    0
    Ukraine can only become a quagmire. The people on its territory have changed quite a lot so that they are ready to fight against Russia in such numbers that they only have time to arm more and more BTGs.
    Only Russia can be the foundation of a new association. No other country has the potential to be an assembly center.
    The territories of the defeated ukroreich, after the destruction of the most stubborn ones, join in the form of newly burned bricks into Russia or other neighboring states. Ukraine as a state should not exist.
    Ukraine can only serve as a stone on its foot to drown anyone who annexes it to himself as a single territory. The second time stepping on the historical rake should not be. Marzhetsky proposes to do just that.
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    2. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 2 January 2023 12: 07
      0
      Ukraine can only become a quagmire. The people on its territory have changed quite a lot so that they are ready to fight against Russia in such numbers that they only have time to arm more and more BTGs

      + 100!
      1. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
        Gennady1959 (Gennady) 2 January 2023 13: 39
        +3
        In the 20 years between the civil war and the Second World War, the authorities were able to seriously reformat the consciousness of the population. A whole generation has grown up, brought up on the values ​​of the USSR. All this was the reason that the Germans' slogans "they say we have come to liberate you from the Bolsheviks" did not work and the bulk of the Soviet people fought fiercely with the invaders. In Ukraine, for 30 years the consciousness of the population has been reformatted, and for 8 years especially violently, up to terror against dissidents. Here we have what we have. The Ukrainian army selflessly fights.
        The reason is hidden in the fact that the Russian authorities (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) shamefully lost (surrendered the party, left without a fight) in a diplomatic war for the sympathy of the population of neighboring countries.
  24. syndicalist Online syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 1 January 2023 19: 02
    -1
    USSR-2.0 is a purely Chinese expansionist project. In addition to Russian-speaking Chinese trolls, he has a lot of Russian well-wishers who speculate on nostalgia and rejection of the current system. If it is implemented, and this is very likely, then the Russian language will disappear forever as Latin and ancient Greek. At the current stage, China prefers not to advertise its intentions, waiting for a political catastrophe in Russia. But he is by no means idle. Now his task is to achieve the maximum bogging down of Russia in the war and its exhaustion.
  25. guest Offline guest
    guest 1 January 2023 19: 08
    +3
    I am only for the new USSR, but the territories that have become Russian to Ukraine cannot be given away. There is nothing to repeat the mistakes of Lenin and Khrushchev.
  26. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 1 January 2023 19: 08
    -2
    Quote: guest
    Quote: rainy
    I don't want to go to such a country.

    Do not want? Suitcase, train station and the country of your desire.

    Ahahahaha! lol
    Do I understand correctly that it suits you to work for a bowl of stew, while those that are higher in rank will fly on vacation to the UAE? lol
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 January 2023 19: 13
      +2
      Quote: rainy
      Do I understand correctly that it suits you to work for a bowl of stew, while those that are higher in rank will fly on vacation to the UAE?

      What you described is not about the USSR.
    2. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 1 January 2023 19: 21
      +1
      I also don’t want to go to the USSR2, where the basis is Ukraine
  27. Rainy Offline Rainy
    Rainy 1 January 2023 19: 24
    +3
    Quote: guest
    Quote: rainy
    Do I understand correctly that it suits you to work for a bowl of stew, while those that are higher in rank will fly on vacation to the UAE?

    What you described is not about the USSR.

    What, you can't read? If you know how, then re-read the message, WHAT "USSR 2" will be in my vision. I'll give you a hint: it will be North Korea-2.
    The country that you knew under the name of the USSR will never be again. Whatever you call her. Everything is decided by frames. And with the cadres who brought it to the point that the people should eat pasta and not ask anything from the state, because it owes nothing to the people - the USSR will never be built.
  28. Alexander Zolotukhin (Aleksandr Zolotukhin) 1 January 2023 19: 42
    0
    In blessed Soviet times, an article by a respected author would be called decadent, with all the consequences ....
    The "advice" would fit very organically into the article to urgently look for ways to peace, compromise concessions ... Otherwise, how can we be without "advanced technologies" and even in the conditions of "merciless sanctions" of the once "collective" West, once strong and prosperous with our gas and oil, which they have deprived themselves of!
    Look around - everything is changing, the whole world! And there will be no return to the Union, there is no need.
  29. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra (Alexander) 1 January 2023 19: 49
    +6
    One of the main obstacles to our development and survival is capitalism in Russia, which is maintained at… the highest level.
  30. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 1 January 2023 20: 13
    +3
    The liberal government, the comprador bourgeoisie, hates the Soviet Union. From a reminder of the construction of the Union, any, she develops a manic fear syndrome because they are participants, accomplices in the coup d'état of the USSR. State coup is a criminal offense that does not have a statute of limitations. This power and the bourgeoisie will never allow the creation of a new USSR.02 or another Union. Russia, a federal republic, it is on the basis of the federation that we need to build a new Russia, including in it the territories of the former Soviet republics of the USSR in the form of republics (for example, like the Republic of Yakutia), territories, provinces, regions. Get down to earth, be pragmatic and realistic.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 1 January 2023 21: 41
      -3
      Quote: vlad127490
      The liberal government, the comprador bourgeoisie, hates the Soviet Union.

      This is for_USSR_ovtsy hate the modern Russian Federation.
      And so - the red stars above the Kremlin continue to shine, and there are enough other surviving Soviet symbols.
  31. Rusa Offline Rusa
    Rusa 1 January 2023 21: 11
    -2
    The sooner the RF Armed Forces liberate the "independent" from the Natsiks, the sooner
    the USSR-2 will appear on the world map, and instead of the "square" one, what remains of it should return to Russia as an autonomous republic.
    1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
      Dart2027 1 January 2023 22: 48
      +1
      Quote: Rusa
      what remains of it must return to Russia as an autonomous republic.

      No republics. Only certain areas.
  32. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 1 January 2023 21: 38
    -2
    For a banal economic survival, we will have to gather the former Soviet republics around us, creating a single sales market, carry out large-scale reindustrialization, and restore industrial cooperation. For maximum self-sufficiency in the form of authorship or semi-authority, it will be necessary to gather under its wing from 400 to 500 million consumers.

    Well, it won’t work, 150 + 10 (Belarus) + 20 (the remnants of the population of Ukraine that did not escape) = 180 million, and not 400 at all.
    And the question is not only in the number of consumers, but also in the pool of technologies.
    The current Ukraine and Central Asia do not add anything in terms of technology.
    Belarus gives what it can in the current format.

    You need to turn to Asia / Africa / Latin America, and stoically observe how time works for Asia.
  33. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 1 January 2023 22: 05
    0
    Quote from Nelton.
    You need to turn to Asia / Africa / Latin America, and stoically observe how time works for Asia.

    We still need to do something ourselves. So far, I do not see anything particularly interesting in which Russia could be useful to the renewed union. The West is unlikely to remove the sanctions, and it is unlikely that the former Soviet republics will be profitable to trade with us (if only to China).
  34. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 1 January 2023 22: 29
    +2
    That's right. There is nothing for the Anglo-Saxon and the Pole to do on our lands.
  35. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 1 January 2023 23: 29
    +2
    The USSR is public ownership of the means of production ... what kind of USSR 2.0 can we talk about while Putin is in power, and his policy is directed in the interests of the Abramovichs, Mazepins, Potanins ???
  36. lord-palladore-11045 (Konstantin Puchkov) 2 January 2023 00: 31
    +1
    I agree with the author. Perhaps not everything will be as he wrote, but water does not flow under a lying stone. A lot needs to change in the country. First of all, the government must do everything to make the people believe it. Nothing will work without this. Then the government must do everything to raise the standard of living. How this will be done - let our president start thinking right now. And so that the standard of living does not fall, so that highly educated people are interested in obtaining Russian citizenship. A lot of competent thoughts in the arrangement of the country can be accepted from our enemies, for example, from Karl Mannerheim. Analyze the experience of Iceland, Norway, Japan. The Russians have been thinking about this for a long time, but all thoughts go into the pocket of the aligarhs, and this is regrettable. The fact that they began to be carried out to the end - the road will be mastered by the walking one.
    1. Vladimir80 Offline Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 2 January 2023 12: 03
      +1
      you painted the five-year program directly, and Russia doesn’t have that much time, the standard of living rose noticeably until 2013, then the growth of the resource economy stopped, and most importantly, in my opinion, the authorities lost the last remnants of trust after fleeing from raisins, mobilization "with a leaky military uniform "and" holidays "of Azov in Turkey ...
  37. DeadPahom Offline DeadPahom
    DeadPahom (Eugene) 2 January 2023 12: 10
    +1
    Why recreate something that has shown its unviability? Objectively, as history has shown, national republics are time bombs. It's a matter of time for some scum to take advantage of these mines. It seems to me that the Russian MPD understands this very well, so there will be no Ukraine. There will be a regional administrative division, therefore, not "USSR 2.0", but rather the Russian Empire 2.0 (the name is conditional, with a lot of reservations). But there will be three military districts as in the USSR. Odessa will be added to Lvov and Kyiv.
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 2 January 2023 12: 28
      +2
      Bad dancers get in the way of their own eggs, not just their own republics.

      During the Second World War, the Union of Republics, even without a single President, withstood the most difficult trials.

      But when the strength is not enough, declare a dictatorship. Russian culture in Russian society is the same as Ukrainian culture in Ukraine. Everything will start to fall apart instantly... The method is very "patriotic" and works flawlessly.... Let's go to that.

      Their stupidity, their thieves and traitors - this is what for some reason they don’t interfere with us today ....... eklmn ... republics interfere with them, but traitors do not interfere ... As they say in Ukraine: "such bastards beat... "
  38. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 2 January 2023 12: 28
    +3
    There are no ideological, economic or any other prerequisites for the formation of a likeness of the USSR today and even more so in the future.
  39. Donchanin Offline Donchanin
    Donchanin (Vladimir Pavlov) 2 January 2023 12: 30
    0
    Everything is correct, except for one Ukraine should not be anymore. A common market is clearly needed. Such a concept as "national elite" should also be absent.
    Look at Turkey. There are a lot of territories. Where are the national elites? The absence of assholes masturbating in their nationality as an excuse for social status is the key to the success of the general welfare.
    1. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
      Alexander Ra (Alexander) 3 January 2023 11: 22
      0
      Quote: Donchanin
      Such a concept as "national elite" should also be absent.

      What is instead of the brain of the people-nation - the "national elite"?
  40. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 2 January 2023 12: 46
    0
    Yes, Belarus in previous decades tried to evade real integration with Russia within the framework of the Union State, preferring to receive only preferences from its special status.

    Not that it shied away, the political and economic problem for the leadership and people of the Republic of Belarus was in the real conditions of unification (do not forget about the paramount circumstances of what and how happened and is happening in our country).
  41. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
    Gennady1959 (Gennady) 2 January 2023 13: 27
    +3
    Nonsense! In the USSR, almost all republics (except for the RSFSR and the BSSR) were subsidized, i.e. sat on the neck of Russia. Do we need such a USSR? Need parasites that will live beautifully at the expense of Russia? Lenin's plan to build the USSR was not viable. Slightly weakened the power of the center of the elite of all the republics betrayed the USSR. Only separate provinces within Russia. No national (Nazi) local elites.
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 2 January 2023 19: 10
      +1
      Quote: GENNADY1959
      Nonsense!..... Do we need such a USSR? Need parasites that will live beautifully at the expense of Russia? Lenin's plan to build the USSR was not viable.

      Nonsense!

      Power and law are, first of all, laws. And the work of laws - law enforcement - is conditioned by the traditions of society. Understand this! "Laws do not work" ....... Well-known fact.

      Feudal society in the 21st century is not viable. And not "Lenin's plan."..... eklmn... everyone ....... we are smarter than the founder of the state.. .. well, how else?

      In a society where even 100 years after Lenin there is no labor movement, and even in the 21st century the President is elected for life, like Tsar Michael in the 17th century - not only socialism, but nothing is viable except theft and betrayal. ... a free hunting zone ... But thieves are still viable!
  42. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 2 January 2023 14: 56
    -2
    one of the Soviet leaders (I don’t remember exactly) admitted that a third of 30% of the budget of the RSFSR went to subsidies to the republics of the USSR, their local taxes were not enough for the republics to maintain high social support for the Soviet system (free apartments, hospitals, education, gratuitous housing and communal services, gasoline and .e). The capitalist Russian Federation will not withstand such subsidies (only the principality of Luka milked more than 130 billion from the Russian Federation), there are stupidly no incomes, most of the country's state revenues were appropriated (after the collapse of Socialism). a handful of people from Yeltsin's entourage and Chubais' cronies, who in an instant became multibillionaires (about 200 people). not counting the hundreds of thousands of "small" tack-owners who filled their pockets with "only" tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of state property. the impoverished budget of the Russian Federation does not even pull subsidies from their regions with a budget deficit (of which 80%), liberals are forced to print trillions of rubles (bringing down the ruble exchange rate) in order to patch up budget holes, instead of (nationalizing) returning the revenues stolen from the state, and this is not only resources (gas oil forest), but also to return the state monopoly on alcohol, tobacco, pharmaceuticals, lotteries, etc. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation proposes to do all this, all 20 years of Putin’s rule, but the talker does not want to part with his billions, even dispossess pro-Western Russian billionaires does not want to, who have not lived in the Russian Federation for a long time, they just sometimes fly on their planes to the Russian Federation to transfer money over the hill.
    The USSR2 is possible, but first it is necessary to revive the RSFSR, and for this it is necessary to return Socialism. multimillionaire Putin does not want to do this, so the people should do it without him. and when Russia regains Socialism, I am sure then the peoples of the former republics of the USSR will put an end to their comprador Sorov regimes, of course, not in order to again sit on the neck of the RSFSR, but in order to return justice, to return to the country to the people the income that now goes to local beys and Western masters
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  44. In passing Offline In passing
    In passing (Galina Rožkova) 2 January 2023 19: 31
    +2
    What is the foundation from Ukraine? Rotten swamp, mankurt and Vlasov. The USSR will not be, because capitalism. Under capitalism, only a structure like the EU is attractive, such a common fund with strict rules, an interesting market for everyone. This can be used to build political unification. And not on "feeding" the national elites with cheap resources, keeping their grandmothers for these resources not at all in Russia. And also this strange immigration policy, the "excessive" population of national entities should become an instrument of pressure on the elites. Vaughn, the Balts lost a third of their population after joining the EU. And we are grateful to him for this. Belarus is still ours, because Lukashenka is not Poroshenko, but it could be the other way around. Lavrov clapped his ears. And it is necessary to work with these elites, and not waste resources. Create an attractive country, and others will catch up. And let them be the best neighbors. Interested in this.
    1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
      ivan2022 (ivan2022) 2 January 2023 23: 59
      +1
      "Interesting for all its market", which you write about, just led in 30 years to the emergence of today's Ukraine.

      You have the psychology of a serf in the 17th century. You like the "hard order", in which the number of such people.... .... has been steadily declining for 30 years.

      And what about the order and the law, beneficial to the working people? - Yes, feudal serfs cannot even think of such a thing.

      It is necessary to crush such people .... And they crush them.

      people of servile rank
      Clean dogs sometimes.
      The heavier the punishment
      So dear to you gentlemen


      / Nekrasov /

      Just push!!!
      1. Snail N9 Offline Snail N9
        Snail N9 (Snail) 3 January 2023 05: 36
        +1
        In general, I am amazed at how we are ..... about some, here, in their heads: some dream of getting rid of "liberals" without understanding what "liberalism" is at all, that is, they do not need: neither the "presumption of innocence" , neither "the priority of universal human values", "neither the equality of all before the law", "nor universal and direct suffrage", etc. Give them "autocracy", such as "Stalinism" - where, if you do not correspond to the "party policy", then or a bullet in the back of the head or - in the camp dust. And others, they dream of a nuclear strike on the type of "enemies" - figs with it, that they will receive an answer from everyone after that, the main thing is to smack a "nuclear button" on the "decision-making centers" and figs with it, that from the answer they themselves will die and them families are garbage, the main thing is to "show the adversaries." I'm just freaking out at what's going on in the heads of these people.
        1. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
          ivan2022 (ivan2022) 3 January 2023 08: 04
          -1
          Quote: Snail N9
          In general, I am amazed at how we are ..... about some, here, in their heads: some dream of getting rid of "liberals" without understanding what "liberalism" is at all, that is, they do not need: neither the "presumption of innocence" , neither "the priority of universal human values", "neither the equality of all before the law", "nor universal and direct suffrage", etc. Give them "autocracy", such as "Stalinism" - where, if you do not correspond to the "party policy", then or a bullet in the back of the head or - in the camp dust. ". I'm just freaking out at what's going on in the heads of such people.

          I'm just freaking out .... Where did you see the equality of citizens before the law today? And what about "camp dust and a bullet in the back of the head" - not familiar to our contemporaries? Tell me about kindergarten.

          When did the "coming of law and democracy" happen? In October 1993, when the All-Russian Congress of People's Deputies was shot from tanks and the congresses of the legislature were banned altogether? ....

          And what, in the Soviet legislation there was no presumption of innocence? Are you OK? Are you able to distinguish between a crime against the Law and a crime against the Law itself?

          You need to drink less on New Year's Eve and eat more ... So it will be better.
  45. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
    Peter rybak (Patrol) 3 January 2023 09: 09
    -1
    The future USSR 2.0 is just the Russian Federation + Belarus + Tajikistan + Kyrgyzstan. By peaceful means, no other state from among the former republics of the USSR will want to unite with the Russian Federation. And the military path will lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation,
    We don't know yet how the NWO will end. I'm afraid that even the founders of the SVO do not know this.
  46. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 3 January 2023 10: 12
    +1
    Dear author!
    You argue from the point of view of the objective interests and objective benefits of the workers inhabiting the territory of the former USSR

    The problem is that they themselves never understood their own collective interests. They consider the realization of collective interests a utopia and an impossible dream. And they do not believe people who call for reason.

    They call thieves and bandits "authorities". They are believed, they are respected, they are re-elected, because "And for whom else?" They don't take others seriously.

    It is better to uncork a bottle of champagne on New Year's holidays and re-read "Eugene Onegin" - Pushkin.

    It says sound: "the custom is a despot among people." Custom!
    The customs of our blessed people are feudal... waiting for the coming of a good King... When do you think it will go away?

    This will go away no sooner than the Russian people see through the examples of other, more progressive peoples, how to live.

    Russia was the last carriage on the European train. Now he hopes to be the last car on the Asian train. To be the last carriage is the fate of the people .... Fate is to be like that!

    And then the people will cheerfully take up their favorite business - copying the lifestyle of the successful and rich. If he survives, of course, until this day of light. And this is another big question...