Is it possible the Union State of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus


When you read the comments of Russians about the events in Ukraine, one unpleasant thing becomes obvious. Russia has lost to smithereens the information war for this country. People simply do not understand “why do they need Ukraine?” happened, domestic propagandists, professional and "volunteers from the Internet" began to convince us that we "do not need Ukraine for nothing." Needed!


Details of why naive hopes that Ukrainians will rise up and throw off the "yoke of pro-Western puppets" themselves are untenable, we have in great detail disassembled previously. Note that our readers living in Nezalezhnaya have fully confirmed the validity of these calculations. That is, no one there will rise up and throw off the yoke. Point. Only Russia itself will have to solve the Ukrainian problem, and it would probably be fair to involve neighboring Belarus in this process. Our two Slavic countries, which suffered the most from German Nazism, have every moral right to "finish off the shortcomings" in Ukraine. How this can be done, we, too, more than once reasoned: it can be a direct force operation of the RF Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, and indirect, through the DPR and LPR, and “hybrid”, through the elimination of the puppet regime by internal forces. Now we will not go into details again, let's talk about something else.

Why is it time to collect lands


Separately, I would like to dwell on the question of the lack of alternatives to the armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which will certainly happen sooner or later. Why is that?

Because the Crimea stood between our countries. If the Kremlin can still "push" the DPR and LPR back into the Independence Square, then the issue of the peninsula will be on the agenda. Neither Kiev nor the collective West will ever recognize it as Russian. Moscow also cannot give it back, moreover, we recall that administrative and criminal liability has been introduced for such calls. In other words, the problem of Crimea has forever divided Russia and Ukraine, no improvement in relations between our countries is possible in principle, and it belongs to the category of unresolved peacefully. It can only be non-peaceful: either when Independent and the collective West force Moscow to do this by returning the peninsula, or when Moscow itself forces Kiev to recognize Crimea as Russian. There is no third.

The first means the defeat of Russia and national shame, which is absolutely unacceptable, so let's talk about how we ourselves can emerge victorious from this stalemate. We will proceed from the thesis that the solution to the problem of Crimea, DPR and LPR, as well as the future of Ukraine itself and our brotherly Ukrainian people, lies in Kiev. Let's say that in one way or another it was possible to neutralize the Armed Forces of Ukraine (for example, through active counter-propaganda and work with the command staff) and drive out the puppet pro-Western government. What's next?

This is where the most interesting part begins, since various options are possible, depending on how far the Kremlin is ready to go in "collecting lands". I would like to quote, without exaggeration, the great chancellor of Germany Otto von Bismarck:

Germany does not look at the liberalism of Prussia, but at its power; let Bavaria, Württemberg, Baden be tolerant of liberalism. Therefore, no one will give you the role of Prussia; Prussia must gather its forces and keep them until a favorable moment, which has already been missed several times. The borders of Prussia in accordance with the Vienna agreements do not favor the normal life of the state; not by the speeches and decisions of the majority, important issues of our time are being resolved - this was a major mistake in 1848 and 1849 - but by iron and blood.

If anyone has forgotten or did not know at all that fragmented Germany was united from many small feudal principalities through several military campaigns, then we recall. At the same time, undoubtedly, there were many dissenting and dissatisfied, but for some reason Chancellor Bismarck is today a respected historical figure by everyone, and not a "mustachioed ghoul dreaming of a German blood". It was now a stone in the garden of the hypocritical Russian liberals with their double standards, if suddenly someone did not understand. Fragmented Germany, which means that the Germans can be united by any methods, but the Russians in the post-Soviet space cannot? "This is different."

Ukraine without Nazis


Let's imagine that the pro-Western puppet regime has fallen, and the last plane from Boryspil with Ukrainian patriots on the landing gear has just departed. Let's leave out of brackets how and why it happened. What should Russia do with Ukraine? Or not?

Option 1... Federalization or confederalization

In this case, it is assumed that Russia, defending its national interests, will liquidate the hostile Russophobic regime in Kiev, but will not receive any territorial increments. Rather, it is trying to get Ukraine to recognize Crimea as Russian, removing the key problem, but it does not attach either the DPR to the LPR or Novorossia to itself. Instead, the country is undergoing constitutional reform to federalize or confederalize it.

Regions as diverse as Western and Eastern Ukraine receive the broadest powers of self-government and self-realization. Trade and industrial ties with Russia are being restored. UF is switching to direct purchases of our gas, Ukrainian enterprises are returning to the Russian market, new jobs are being created. The problem with a number of the most important components disappears, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation gains access to the shipyards in Nikolaev. The war in Donbass ends, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are demobilized and rebuilt anew with command personnel from the DPR and LPR, military spending is drastically reduced. Russophobic propaganda ceases, family ties, severed by the border and Crimea, are being restored. Life is gradually starting to improve.

Is it really that bad, tell me honestly, citizens of Ukraine? Of course, in real life everything will be more complicated, they will interfere with us and get dirty, but in medicine this is called "positive dynamics." To guarantee a relapse into neo-Nazi revenge, several Russian military bases will need to be deployed in the country: near Kiev, in Odessa and in other key points of the country. Order and security will be ensured by the reformed Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine and the police, where people from Donbass will act as the backbone.

Option 2... Fragmentation and partition

This scenario is permissible if events continue to be allowed to take their course. The complete annexation of Ukraine to Russia today is no longer possible, since the degradation of the population there has gone too far. We are definitely not on our way with Western Ukraine, so it will have to be transferred under joint control with its Eastern European neighbors, subject to complete demilitarization. Let Poland, Hungary and Romania figure it out on their own. What to do with historical Little Russia and Novorossia? Perhaps the first will have to become a new version of Ukraine, recognizing Crimea and Novorossia as Russian regions.

Novorossia is probably the maximum that our country is really capable of digesting as a new federal district. Little Russia will then become the legal successor of Ukraine and a Russian protectorate. In order to avoid relapses, it is also advisable to locate military bases of the RF Ministry of Defense on its territory. Obviously, the West will perceive the annexation of Novorossia to the Russian Federation extremely negatively, imposing new sanctions, but Moscow can win over three Eastern European countries, allowing them de facto to reunite with the lost lands in Separate regions with a special status in Western Ukraine.

Option 3... Union state

This is perhaps the most compromise of the three. In this scenario, Ukraine is carrying out a constitutional reform of federalization or confederalization, but remains de jure an independent state. In order to avoid Maidan relapses, the Russian Defense Ministry is deploying several military bases on its territory. Ukraine remains within its current borders, but leaves the agreement on European integration, enters the Eurasian economic union, CSTO, and then into the Union State with Russia and Belarus.

A while ago we came to the conclusionthat SGRB is a functionally "soft federation" in which its members have a certain political independence. This is an almost ideal form for the reintegration of the three fraternal Slavic states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

Having legally retained its sovereignty, the denazified and reformed former Nezalezhnaya, where pro-Russian-minded people from Donbass will occupy key posts, has a chance to return to normal life and sustainable socio-economic development.
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  1. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 26 November 2021 13: 23
    +1
    Union State with Belarus. Ukraine cannot be completely sewn anywhere. They have polarized the country so much that it is no longer possible to find a common denominator. First SG with Belarus. The success of the project will tighten up the Ukrainian regions.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 26 November 2021 13: 29
      -4
      on a free zhrachku and high positions all will catch up .. also half of Africa will come running.
    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 November 2021 13: 59
      -1
      First SG with Belarus. The success of the project will tighten up the Ukrainian regions.

      Will not pull up. Ukraine has no sovereignty. Others decide for it.

      They have polarized the country so much that it is no longer possible to find a common denominator.

      The common denominator is military strength and a sane project for joint post-war development.

      Ukraine cannot be completely sewn anywhere.

      Altogether, it is no longer necessary.

      If you continue to supply Ukraine with energy from the Union State, then Ukraine will not "freeze", "fall apart", "crawl back on its knees" and so on,

      You don’t need to supply.
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 26 November 2021 14: 20
        -9
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Ukraine has no sovereignty. Others decide for it.

        Marzhetsky, whoever decides for Ukraine, it is definitely not you and your kind. You would have to solve your political, economic and demographic problems, otherwise there are growing separatist tendencies in the regions.
        1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
          Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 27 November 2021 02: 37
          +2
          Marzhetsky, whoever decides for Ukraine, it is definitely not you and your kind.

          Exactly.
          For Ukrainians, Jews do it. laughing
          And then they will howl about the Holocaust 2.0.
          When Ukrainians come to their senses.
    3. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 29 November 2021 17: 08
      0
      Siegfried. Joining will not take place without lace panties. But you can lure everyone with one piece, you tie a stick with lace panties to your hand so that she cannot get it. And she will reach for them. They themselves will not notice how they enter the union. Then take it with your bare hands. Such a thing is called political cunning.
  2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 November 2021 13: 40
    +5
    People simply do not understand “why do they need Ukraine?”

    If you continue to supply Ukraine with energy from the Union State, then Ukraine will not "freeze", "fall apart", "crawl back on its knees" and so on,
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 29 November 2021 17: 10
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      Bulanov. There is a Ukrainian proverb - if you burn, then you don't know.
  3. tulip Offline tulip
    tulip 26 November 2021 14: 20
    +2
    The Crimea problem will be solved only in one convenient case for Russia - the closure of the Ukraine project. How this project will close is of course a controversial issue - but it must be closed. Dreams that when there will be sane are just dreams. The most convenient way for Russia to divide Ukraine into three parts is Western Ukraine under the EU protectorate, neutral Little Russia-Ukraine with its center in Kiev and New Russia. if a neutral Little Russia-Ukraine cannot be made, then it will also have to be divided.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 November 2021 14: 36
      -1
      This is a very common view of things.
    2. isv000 Offline isv000
      isv000 28 November 2021 23: 19
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Alekseev
      Western Ukraine under EU protectorate

      Put your finger down - they'll bite off your hand! But in the Carpathians, the Rusyns are Red Rus ...
  4. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 November 2021 14: 39
    +5
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Ukraine has no sovereignty. Others decide for it.

    Marzhetsky, whoever decides for Ukraine, it is definitely not you and your kind. You would have to solve your political, economic and demographic problems, otherwise there are growing separatist tendencies in the regions.

    The reaction of those like you is the best confirmation of my innocence.
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 26 November 2021 21: 10
      -4
      Yes, Marzhetsky, you act in your own style - you cannot argue and you are trying to offend your opponent. Only you are trying in vain, I am not offended, not my level. smile
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 44
        +1
        Why object? smile Your level is to come and shit in the comments with hackneyed cliches from the Russophobic propaganda manual.
  5. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 26 November 2021 14: 48
    -1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    it is a military force and a sane project of joint post-war development

    So I didn't see anywhere - why is Russia
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 November 2021 17: 15
      0
      It says a lot about you
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 26 November 2021 15: 11
    +1
    V.I. Lenin wrote about the United States of Europe, history ordered differently.
    Two factors are decisive - external and internal.
    External - the Eastern Partnership program, which has not been canceled, and the policy of the Russian Federation, and Internal - the interests of the ruling class of Ukraine.
    Each of them is subdivided into components, but the potential of the EU, and, accordingly, the capabilities and force of attraction are many times greater than the Russian Federation.
    This is reflected in the current policy of the Russian Federation - non-resistance to evil by violence: an enemy whose rootless and aggressive nation is forbidden to act under its own flag and anthem, and in fact is in a blockade. As S.V. Lavrov said, it is better to pour from empty to empty for 10 years than to fight for 1 year.
    The desire of big capital to get out of the control of the state, to become Above it and make it an instrument for solving its problems, leads to a repetition of the fate of the USSR some time after the departure of V.V. Putin and in the absence of a party and the dictatorship of the proletariat as in the PRC. Western partners do not hide this goal and are doing everything possible to achieve it.
    Therefore, the likelihood of Allied relations with the Russian Federation tends to zero.
  7. Yura Zhavoronkov (Arno Funke) 26 November 2021 15: 32
    -8
    It is ridiculous to read far-fetched arguments about the restoration of the USSR. That's just funny. Especially if you look at the countries that emerged from under Soviet influence (Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia), or directly from the USSR - the Baltic countries, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan. Just compare pensions, salaries and migration. NOBODY travels to Russia from these countries, although Russians from these countries sometimes scold domestic laws. Usually, because of laziness and unwillingness to learn state languages. In Belarus, the generation under 50 does not “see” itself in the “Russian world”. The author simply "included a fool" who does not know the situation in the post-Soviet countries. Designed for a "deep-seated skrepny nart".
    1. isv000 Offline isv000
      isv000 28 November 2021 23: 20
      +1
      Quote: Yura Zhavoronkov
      NOBODY travels to Russia from these countries

      Go to the market ... fool
  8. orgies Offline orgies
    orgies (Orgis) 26 November 2021 16: 10
    0
    Inconsistent article with phenomenal blunders. Who organized the Maidan? West .. Yes, by the hands of Ukrainian nationalists, but the West .. Who took Crimea from Ukraine? Population of Crimea? Yes, he would have been crushed without Russia. So who? Of course, Putin .. Will the Donetsk people and Kiev decide the fate of the LPR and the DPR?

    Well, then why should Yaroslavna cry about the lost ideological war (there, Serbia and Bulgaria seem to be sympathetic to us, so what?), Why talk about what "will have to share", "will have to agree"? If Poland is given free rein, it is ready to master the Baltic states and Ukraine - what to share and agree with? And very few people care about the opinion of Ukrainians - Kiev does not care, Warsaw, Moscow, Berlin with Brussels and Washington, too. their incentives are not thinking, nor about the limits of possibilities ..

    In short, the solution to the question of Ukraine (and it must be solved sooner or later) is determined by
    1.power component (or the threat of its use) - which will be cheaper
    2. to take from Ukraine is not necessary what is "agreed" but what is needed
    3. no games with national characteristics are needed - only administrative divisions. Russia has long been moving away from the Leninist national autonomies and republics towards the administrative districts. This is how the district should be.
    4. Who cares what Ukrainians think? There is some for the USSR, some for democracy, some for Bandera, some for Father Makhno. Take what is needed, launch a program for construction and job creation, and include the ideology of a united country. If you don't like it, play wherever you want. More than half of the builders of the Kerchinsky Bridge were Ukrainians and they built everything normally. So it will be here too ..

    And in general, the author, you shouldn't have read Putin's article about Ukraine .. Or didn’t understand .. Omit the historical tinsel and pay attention to Putin’s words about the geopolitical space and centers of power, which either weaken or increase their influence on this territory ... Do not produce entities in vain - read what the president of the center of power gaining influence in the indicated space wrote - you are somehow inclined to listen and discuss the arguments of those who either do not have resources, or they are few - to discuss with Poland, negotiate with Hungary, fight for the influence of minds Ukrainians ... Yes, nafig all this is not necessary - to accumulate resources, notify Berlin and Washington, prepare for forms of opposition, take what we consider necessary, include in Russia and start raising the level of the taken space ... And an example of this is Crimea - either according to this scenario, or the threat of its use .. The scenario is working, besides, it has also been tested in the Caucasus, so what is there to invent? Diplomats, economists, military personnel, political leadership, within the framework of the worked out scenario, everyone knows who and what to do .. Once again - do not produce entities ..
  9. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 November 2021 17: 16
    -1
    Quote: Orgis
    Inconsistent article with phenomenal blunders. Who organized the Maidan? West .. Yes, by the hands of Ukrainian nationalists, but the West .. Who took Crimea from Ukraine? Population of Crimea? Yes, he would have been crushed without Russia. So who? Of course, Putin .. Will the Donetsk people and Kiev decide the fate of the LPR and the DPR?

    All my texts are extremely logical and consistent.

    And in general, the author, you shouldn't have read Putin's article about Ukraine .. Or didn’t understand .. Omit the historical tinsel and pay attention to Putin’s words about the geopolitical space and centers of power, which are either weakening or increasing their influence on this territory ..

    I read it, not impressed.

    Diplomats, economists, military personnel, political leadership, within the framework of the worked out scenario, everyone knows who and what to do .. Once again, do not produce entities ..

    You yourself should follow your own advice.
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 27 November 2021 00: 07
      -4
      Quote: Marzhetsky
      All my texts are extremely logical and consistent.

      Yes, you suffer from delusions of grandeur, Marzhetsky. Consistency is observed in you only in one thing - complete disregard of reality. I have already advised you before, but I have to repeat myself: tie up with analytics, this is clearly not yours, start composing hurray-patriotic novels in the genre of alternative history, there you may well give free rein to your fantasies. I wish you creative success! good
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 47
        0
        Yes, you suffer from delusions of grandeur, Marzhetsky.

        I have no megalomania. I just know my worth.

  10. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 November 2021 17: 24
    +4
    Quote: Yura Zhavoronkov
    It is ridiculous to read far-fetched arguments about the revival of the "prison of peoples" - (Lenin), or the soviet GULAG. That's just funny. Especially if you look at the countries that emerged from under Soviet influence (Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia), or directly from the USSR - the Baltic countries, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan. Just compare pensions, salaries and migration. NOBODY travels to Russia from these countries, although Russians from these countries sometimes scold domestic laws. Usually, because of laziness and unwillingness to learn state languages. In Belarus, the generation under 50 does not “see” itself in the “Russian world”. The author simply "included a fool" who does not know the situation in the post-Soviet countries. Designed for a "deep-seated skrepny nart".

    Another liberalish.
    1. Yura Zhavoronkov (Arno Funke) 26 November 2021 19: 35
      -4
      What was required to prove - when there is nothing intelligible to say, there is a purely Russian answer - itself .. a fool, take away what your proofs, you blacks are lynched! Etc. etc. An exchange of views with a Russian is pure masochism. Fyvseduraks! that's their whole argument for all time.
      1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 27 November 2021 01: 21
        -1
        Not about the article (where the author made some gag), but exclusively to ask about the exhaust of your comment - And you, Yuri, whose will you be? And then your people are "rasseyskiy", and not even a people, but a "narot"?
        Do you think the commented imitation of arguments needs real counterarguments? NOBODY travels - where does this "knowledge" of the entire depth of our depths come from? Only personally related "stories" - in one city people came from sunny Azerbaijan for several years, in another regional one - according to the presidential program from the blessed Nur-Sultan a couple of months ago, leaving all the apartment, work, for permanent residence, Russians, the youngest is not a year old, and those who made the decision were born there, under the Union. In the FMS - the people are not crowded, and not all the guest performers, as you would like to see. On official business I was in Belarus, I got out around Minsk to wander around for a couple of hours, the reaction of the locals, unexpected for me - when they saw the chevron, people stopped, who to shake hands, who just to talk and one question "Well, when?" For the same reason, the minibus refused to take money from us. According to my Odessa, still Soviet school, my classmates are far from all with reformatted brains of Mriy Sumerlia. Some have - yes, the brain is so bloated, but not all, there are quite enough adequate ones ...

        You say NOBODY or whatever, "you are lying !?"
        I repeat, "truth-lover" - whose ideas are you broadcasting, whose will you be? wink
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 51
          -1
          Not about the article (the author made some gags there)

          It's funny: the author of the article has piled up gags. laughing Did you understand what you wrote?
          1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 29 November 2021 19: 37
            +1
            It's a pity you didn't understand, you are too keen on your theories, divorced from the gray reality
      2. Adler77 Offline Adler77
        Adler77 (Denis) 27 November 2021 12: 15
        -1
        What does the Russians or Russians have to do with it? You are the same as Marzhetsky, only from the other side.
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 49
          -1
          Oh, well, who would be talking here. You and Netin are the worst enemies of Russia, since they are internal.
          1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
            Adler77 (Denis) 27 November 2021 12: 55
            -2
            I am a realist, and you are a dreamer.
            It would be possible to write a whole article why exactly we do not shine any aircraft carriers or anything like that in the foreseeable future.
            Why doesn't it happen in your opinion in Ukraine. Etc. Maybe I'll do it, but so far I'm not ready for such serious business.
            1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 56
              0
              Are you a realist and am I a dreamer? laughing Or maybe I'm just smarter and more erudite than you, and I see and understand many things better than you.
              1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
                Adler77 (Denis) 27 November 2021 13: 08
                -3
                Why would you? In what exactly do you see this, it’s even interesting) don’t I wish Russia prosperity? -wish!
                Don't I want peace and prosperity for the people of Russia? - wish!
                What I do not want is dubious military interventions, the death of Russian soldiers.
                And I also wish that in our country there would be a change of power, laws would work, there would be independent courts, etc.
                This is certainly not the case for aircraft carriers, well, okay.
                So what is my hostility?
                1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 13: 12
                  0
                  Ah, liberal. It's clear.

                  What I do not want is dubious military interventions, the death of Russian soldiers.

                  By the way, how many soldiers from Russia and Russians have already died or were crippled in the Donbass of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
                  I want the war to end in favor of Russia and the Russians, that's all.

                  This is certainly not the case for aircraft carriers, well, okay.

                  I devoted a whole cycle of articles, explaining why Russia specifically needs aircraft carriers, why they are needed for the defense of my country. Anyone would understand that. But you still do not understand, only one mockery.
                  So who are you after that in my eyes? However, if you are a liberal, then that explains everything. For me, domestic liberals are accomplices of the West.
                  1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
                    Adler77 (Denis) 27 November 2021 14: 10
                    -1
                    You talk about aircraft carrier formations in isolation from economic reality, there is nowhere to build them, there is no money for them, just as there are no planes for them. The current ones are outdated, and the promising su-75, which theoretically could become decked, is as far away as the stars.
                    Your proposal for yak 41 is absurd.
                    There is no factory, no equipment, and it itself is no longer there.
                    Those. there is no shipyard, no project, no funds for all this. There are no bases of the appropriate level, no crews, no infrastructure. Today there are no actual aircraft for a sane air wing, there are no whole classes of carrier-based aircraft.
                    Accordingly, all your articles about aircraft carriers are empty empty chatter from the series "oh, how good it would be."
                    And when you are pointed out to you, you are offended and rude.
                    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
                      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 14: 13
                      0
                      The current ones are outdated, and the promising su-75, which theoretically could become decked, is as far away as the stars.
                      There is no factory, no equipment, and it itself is no longer there.
                      Those. there is no shipyard, no project, no funds for all this. There are no bases of the appropriate level, no crews, no infrastructure. Today there are no actual aircraft for a sane air wing, there are no whole classes of carrier-based aircraft.

                      Lord, well, do I have another whole article to write to refute it again? So in itself nothing comes from nowhere. There is money in the country, and projects, and shipyards, just because of the likes of you in power, real priorities are replaced by secondary ones, which leads to a weakening of the defense capability of my country. I do not like it.

                      And when you are pointed out to you, you are offended and rude.

                      And about rudeness and insults: what are you writing to me in the comments that their moderators completely delete them?
                      1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
                        Adler77 (Denis) 27 November 2021 14: 24
                        0
                        yes, it is desirable to write. They say so and so, comrades doubt, but there is a possibility. Well, with numbers, please. How much of what it costs and how long it will take. If this has already happened, then sorry, I have not seen it, please write the title of the article.
                        I don’t know why the comments were deleted. Mat was not there. Although he was very emotional, too much. The article just pissed me off.
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  11. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 November 2021 19: 57
    +1
    Is it possible the Union State of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus

    YES!!!! But for this decisiveness, Courage iiii ... To be independent of any capital you need to be soldier
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  13. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
    aquarius580 27 November 2021 00: 57
    +1
    The author described everything in detail, but there is a question. The author himself will not climb into a tank or a trench. Whom did he appoint to the role of the fried Buryat? Well, the one to whom the deceased Yosya went to the hospital, remember? "Are you drilled? How glad I am!" (WITH)
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 59
      +1
      This is a common demagogic trick, ask, will you climb into the trench yourself? And your children (grandchildren)?
      In my opinion, those who are supposed to do it on duty should climb into the trench, shouldn't they? Everyone should do their job in their place.
      1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
        aquarius580 27 November 2021 13: 13
        +1
        And the Russian boys from Pskov, Kostroma and Ryazan - do they really need to die on the land of Ukraine? Russians are already dying out up to a million a year; their place is taken by Tajiks, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks. Over there already half of Moscow has been captured by Central Asia. What are you trying to achieve? To surrender Moscow entirely to the Islamists or what? Protect Russians in your own country.
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 13: 16
          +1
          Over there already half of Moscow has been captured by Central Asia. What are you trying to achieve? To surrender Moscow entirely to the Islamists or what? Deal with the protection of Russians in your own country.

          For me, Ukraine is a part of my country, Russia.
          The horrors of intervention and subsequent "occupation" should not be exaggerated.

          And the Russian boys from Pskov, Kostroma and Ryazan - do they really need to die on the land of Ukraine?

          And how many of them have already died in Donbass and how many more will die? I want everything to end once and for all in favor of Russia and the Russian people. Point. And in my opinion, it will be beneficial to the Ukrainians themselves, which I described in the article.
          1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
            aquarius580 27 November 2021 15: 53
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            If you were interested in the problems of Russia, you would solve them exactly. Ukraine is not Russia. Ukraine was already on the map, in 1648, when there was no Russia on the map; was Muscovy the size of the Moscow region, where there was not even a written language of its own.
            First, deal with the millions of Central Asians who have already occupied Moscow.
            A third of Donbass is occupied by organized criminal groups calling themselves "people's republics." They are headed by some plowmen, who have never been chosen by anyone.
            1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
              akarfoxhound 29 November 2021 19: 51
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              Cool - Ukraine has been since 1648! From the cycle of drug glucks "come to me yesterday, we will dance songs!" laughing
              After all, the EU-kaya humanitarian aid with a dry cargo ship full of dried "herbaria" from the Netherlands came to the port of Odessa !!! wassat
              1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
                aquarius580 1 December 2021 03: 50
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                You seem to have run out of Wikipedia tickets. Buy more; there is a page called "General Map of Ukraine" by a French engineer named Guillaume de Beauplan. 1648th year.
                1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                  akarfoxhound 1 December 2021 15: 40
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                  Made my day! good
                  Your knowledge of the world is the Wikipedia sector ??? This is where every uneducated blockhead with his own vision draws what he wants and makes adjustments? Those. the territory of the Kingdom of Poland, the Ottoman Empire, the Crimean Khanate and the Russian Kingdom - was this all Ukraine? And in this historical period, when the herd of non-Sumerians, these kings, kings, and sultans with khans "tactile" in all the holes - did they know that they were mocking the ancestors of the Great Hohlanda? laughing
                  And the shabby diagram of the rivers of the 6th continent of Aldebaran on the Internet is also real! Directly from MCC Alfa-Centauri personally delivered to sleep-smumriks! You have there in the ukomirny internet ukomirny present and opuses for 4 Ukrainian fronts, consisting entirely of Ukrainians are present! Banderzianki UPAshnye turns out to be before the arrival of the Red Army and the Ukrainian SSR from the Nazis freed, and Christ and the Kherson region became related, and in wooden barrels under the wave to the Turks rowed with oars! And other visions of the envy of the Dutch! wassat
                  And the Globe of the outskirts for puppies is offered to the puppies on Avito in the same place on the Internet, and as a bonus, the missing upgraded brain of the jumper is included! And the instruction on the move: Spravzhny Ukrainian, during self-assembly, do not confuse it with mischief. Uvaga, the globes mensh are smooth !!!
                  Scream !!!
                  laughing laughing laughing
                  1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
                    aquarius580 2 December 2021 00: 00
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                    Your attempts to write an alternate history have always looked very funny. Perhaps this is just an expression of an inferiority complex: in the absence of its own documented history, all that remains is to screw someone else's.
                    1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                      akarfoxhound 2 December 2021 16: 43
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                      With such a castrated ukroobrazovaniem such naive primitivism of the world outlook now seems to be your norm.
                      I spoke directly with the very personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect! Straight standard !!! good
  14. Pink 123 Floyd 328 (Pink Floyd) 27 November 2021 02: 13
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    What "Union State"? Already passed. Collapsed like a felled tree in 1991. And who adopted the Declaration of Sovereignty, after the Baltic republics and Azerbaijan? That's right, RSFSR! And now we are concerned about collecting. Nothing will come of it, the locomotive of history is gone. Empires disintegrate. And this is a global trend awaiting the Russian Federation.
  15. Radziminsky Victor (Radziminsky Victor) 27 November 2021 04: 13
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    Let's say ... "" Ukraine without the Nazis ...

    Sergei, you deliberately admit knowingly NOT POSSIBLE.
    The USA, Britain, Canada and all NATO countries, together, will NOT ALLOW - "Ukraine without Nazis".
    Even if 15-10 million inhabitants remain in Ukraine, the West needs Ukraine
    like an insane, Nazi state.
    They were too late to grasp the "propaganda work".

    The Russian government did not have and does not have any "soft power" and power in general - to work outside of Russia.
    And Ukraine is now - tightly seized by the propaganda and special services of all Western countries.
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      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 November 2021 12: 58
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      Sergei, you deliberately admit knowingly NOT POSSIBLE.
      The USA, Britain, Canada and all NATO countries, together, will NOT ALLOW - "Ukraine without Nazis".

      Do you need to ask them? Or just do what we need to do?
      1. Radziminsky Victor (Radziminsky Victor) 27 November 2021 19: 50
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        ... just do what we need to do?

        What to do?
        Do how?
        Who will do it?
        Army?
        Putin indicated that military operations with Ukraine are not possible.
        Agitation and propaganda? The Kremlin, in principle, does not have such tools.
        The business elite is the power in Russia.
        Business does not care about the Russians in Russia, and even more so on the Russians around Russia.
        Russian business demonstrates that we do not need all this. "Some kind of Ukraine ..."
        Business in Russia and business in Ukraine are rivals, opponents.
        And the businessmen of the Kremlin do not need extra spending, spending "on some kind of Ukraine."
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  17. Valery Vagin Offline Valery Vagin
    Valery Vagin (Valery Vagin) 27 November 2021 12: 41
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    The deployment and maintenance of grandiose transformations in humanity at the proper level will apparently be more successful with the continued proactive assistance of the GU (the main administration of humanity - the "masters of the world") for the Russian civilization, which includes:
    ● limiting the pernicious pressure of Western civilization;
    ● mastering psychology that helps people:
    ○ tune your psyche for a more trouble-free mode of functioning;
    ○ increase levels: understanding, mutual understanding. insurance against wrong decisions:
    ● elimination of managerial illiteracy of workers, residents and managers;
    ● regular search for conscientious youth (adolescents);
    ● training of conscientious people striving for humanity, cadres of managers for society;
    ● creating tips:
    ○ first of all, honor and conscience (ES), operating in the mode of emergency situations (ES) to correct incorrect processes in control systems, controlled objects-subjects;
    ○ for different purposes,
    ● the abolition of the actions of the legal principle "the son is not responsible for the father", because the opposite principle has long been tacitly functioning at the level of clans, peoples, civilizations;
    ● introduction of a rule for countries (which have expressed a desire to join “greater Russia”), which means the following actions by themselves:
    ○ sending their former “elites” for re-education, in the same way as it will be done for the naughty Russian “elites”, with their responsibility: “the son is responsible for the father”;
    ○ a business trip of workers for periodic study in Russia in those places where they have achieved great success in building a more harmonious society.
  18. S WITH Offline S WITH
    S WITH (N S) 27 November 2021 17: 47
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    we do not need Bandera's Ukraine and the bankrupt collective farm of the hypocrite Luka, we need our Russian land, the land of our Russian ancestors, they saved this land for their descendants at the cost of their lives, these unfinished lands were formed on the Russian land thanks to the Bolsheviks, however, they could not imagine, that these parts of the Russian land in the future will fall under the control of the puppets of the West. Russia, as the owner of this territory, should drive out the newcomer Russophobic homeless people and return them under full control - to include in the Russian Federation, all who are against it should be loaded into livestock trucks and taken to the Polish border and there they should be given a strong kick in the ass.
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  20. DVF Offline DVF
    DVF (Denis) 29 November 2021 13: 59
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    You need to pick up 8 areas and that's it. And so it is very costly to restore the entire infrastructure and pay a huge debt for Ukraine.
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  22. Denis radish Offline Denis radish
    Denis radish (Denis Moroz) 13 January 2022 02: 07
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    To begin with, I think you need to compile a thorough and accurate, regardless of length, a list of Nazi criminals who UNDERSTANDING TO BE DESTROYED BY ALL POSSIBLE WAYS.
    Here's where to start. So that everyone knows that these people are determined and their fate is determined. Let's say there are a hundred thousand of them. at least. Thus, the whole world will be faced with the fact that we have a strictly defined and openly declared number of DEADLY enemies. Of course, with an explanation of who and what they are, why and for what. Only when a clear and understandable image of the enemy is formed, can we talk about preparing public consciousness (not opinion!) For war.