Will Ukraine be able to maintain its statehood if its territory is divided?


A special military operation to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine has been going on for the second month. Judging by the reports coming from the front, a radical change should soon occur there. The Nazi stronghold in Mariupol, which they occupied, will fall first. Our troops that have been released will complete the encirclement of the AFU grouping in the Donbass, which has already shot most of the accumulated ammunition and burned fuel for armored vehicles, and will defeat it. Then Kharkov will be liberated, and the RF Armed Forces will quickly take control of the Left Bank, moving further to the Black Sea, taking the port cities of Nikolaev and Odessa, which in itself means the inevitable collapse of Ukrainian statehood. But then what?


What will happen next, whether Russian troops will go to Western Ukraine, whether they will take Kyiv by storm, what the former Nezalezhnaya will turn into after the completion of a special military operation - all these important questions rightly worry the inhabitants of both Russia and Ukraine, where many of them have close relatives and friends. The Kremlin still does not give any specific explanations on this matter, however, certain signals are beginning to arrive “from below” that may give a hint of what may happen in the foreseeable future.

Thus, the head of the recently officially recognized Luhansk People's Republic, Leonid Pasechnik, recently said that the LPR could join the Russian Federation:

I think that in the near future a referendum will be held on the territory of the republic, at which the people will exercise their absolute constitutional right and express their opinion on joining the Russian Federation.

True, he soon made a clarifying statement, explaining that it was his personal opinion. In the State Duma of the Russian Federation, Pasechnik was quite reasonably answered that while the hostilities were going on, it was premature to talk about holding a referendum.
It should be noted that on the eve of the adoption of the fateful decision on the recognition of the DPR and LPR at the Security Council, President Putin publicly asked the opinion of the country's top officials on this issue, and the head of the foreign intelligence service, Sergei Naryshkin, clearly nervous, let it slip that he was not only for recognition, but also for acceptance of the DPR and LPR into the Russian Federation:

I support the proposal to join the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics into the Russian Federation.

To this, Vladimir Vladimirovich replied that it was not this issue that was being discussed, but recognition or non-recognition. It turned out pretty significant then. And on the eve of the future fate of the Kherson region, the former People's Deputy of Ukraine from the "Party of Regions" Anton Zhuravko, who has been living in Russia since 2015, spoke:

I declare to you with full responsibility: neither the Armed Forces of Ukraine, nor the SBU, nor the authorities of Ukraine influence the situation in Kherson and the region. I ask you, people of Kherson, calm down, no Ukrainian government will return.

These are very important words that many citizens of Ukraine who find themselves in the territories controlled by the RF Armed Forces would like to hear. True, it would be more reliable if President Putin or his press secretary Dmitry Peskov said them personally. Nevertheless, there has been a certain positive trend.

So, a month after the start of the NMD, military-civilian administrations began to appear in the cities liberated from the power of the Kiev regime, which take matters of local self-government into their own hands. A massive call-up of volunteers from Russia has begun, which will obviously not be involved in tank battles, but rather in clearing the rear in the occupied territories from the unfinished remnants of the garrisons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Guard, theterodefense and simply armed gangs. As you can see, certain statements about the possible future of the regions of the former Nezalezhnaya came from below. Why did such a significant change occur, which everyone had been waiting for a whole month?

This is probably due to the clear desire of Poland, Hungary and Romania return their former territories in Western Ukraine. The most resolute here is Warsaw, which, apparently, received personal approval from President Joe Biden. The question of whether Russia should impede this process or, on the contrary, turn a blind eye to it, is highly debatable. The main pros and cons of such an outcome, we detail considered previously. However, if something like this does happen in reality, it will completely change the geopolitical picture in Eastern Europe.

At first, the NATO bloc will de facto further expand to the East.

Secondly, Russia will have to counter expand to the West in order to ensure its national security.

Thirdly, Ukraine as a single sovereign state will finally cease to exist.

The option of some kind of "buffer" non-bloc federal state between Russia and the North Atlantic Alliance will finally cease to meet the new challenges. Everything, the time for such a scenario is already gone, the input data has seriously changed. Our country really have expand westward towards NATO.

The most expedient now seems to be joining the Russian Federation, following the DPR and LPR, Kherson, Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Odessa People's Republics as part of the new Novorossiysk Federal District. We are unlikely to receive more sanctions than now, but in this way Russia will be able to truly reliably denazify the South-East of the former Square and deploy its military infrastructure on its territory in spite of NATO. Crimea will receive a reliable water supply and a land transport corridor. Central Ukraine without the Western regions will be cut off from the sea, demilitarized and will return to the format of Little Russia, which was before they began to sculpt a geopolitical "Frankenstein" from it, which now has to be denazified with great bloodshed.

Little Russia, on the other hand, should turn into a federation and can retain its statehood as the legal successor of Ukraine, but subject to the recognition of Crimea and Novorossiya as Russian regions, joining the EAEU, the Union State and the CSTO, introducing Russian as the second state language, and also placing the military infrastructure of the Ministry of Defense on its territory RF. Wanted "decommunization"? Get it.
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  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 March 2022 11: 55
    +3
    The main chance for the existence of Ukraine within their own borders - sovereign Ukraine, independent Ukraine, they have already missed. This chance was given to them once again in 2014 and 2015.

    M. Zakharova March 24, 2022
    1. zloybond Offline zloybond
      zloybond (steppenwolf) 29 March 2022 20: 28
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      I don't know, you listen to Zakharova... irony, brilliant quotes. You listen to the negotiators - Mu-Mu ... We are not against Ukraine's entry into the EU ..... It smells of some kind of cacophony. The military say that they will shoot less, but they will shoot .... Everything in its own way ....
      But the expulsions of diplomats are underway. The number of embassies is decreasing. But the main idea is that they expose sovereign embassies and we will remain with the collective West - the EU Delegation ....
      _What kind of sovereign policy and relations with states are we talking about?
      - In reality, before expelling someone, it is necessary to close the EU representations in Moscow in general. From the word completely nullify. Then it will reach all this herd - And what in return? And in return it should be only tea-a-tete with each country. Together they bunch up - together they are not afraid. For whom there is a principle _ "Divide ..."! hi
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 March 2022 22: 25
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        What happens in the negotiations is not yet the final decision.
        Ukraine has finally officially announced its Wishlist. You can immediately say with 100% certainty that some moments will not suit Russia. From what Medinsky voiced, it is clear that an agreement will not work. Moscow will refuse. It will put forward its demands, which Zelensky will not agree to.

        Regarding the statement of M. Zakharova. Ukraine will no longer remain within its former borders. The issue of the LPR will be resolved after the end of hostilities. The DPR will definitely be within its administrative boundaries and will also ask for Russia. After the end of hostilities.

        This is not the result that suits Russia. All left-bank Ukraine and Odessa and Kiev should also become independent.
        But, frankly speaking, you are already afraid to make forecasts.
        1. zloybond Offline zloybond
          zloybond (steppenwolf) 30 March 2022 12: 00
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          I think it is necessary to voice one normal line understandable to the population. as soon as the media give statements from the Kremlin about what we will do and leave, people in the territories controlled by the RF Armed Forces understand it this way: it means that you are here temporarily, and then the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine will return and everything will start all over again. people are afraid to express support and even more so to move towards a common future in the direction of Russia. Because they are afraid. If Russia resolutely and honestly say: all fairy tales are over. We are here forever - the transition of the people to the side of Russia will accelerate. My grandfather once told me how it was in civilian life (he was 10 years old then): the Reds would come, they would shoot everyone, they would put their own. The whites will come, they will shoot the reds, they will leave their own. And so five times. What about the people? You first decide which of you is in power here and forever, and then we will somehow adapt. So people need certainty. Then local authorities will quickly take sides. That's how I understand it.
  2. shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) 28 March 2022 12: 05
    +3
    Another lever to swing?
    No. My opinion is that the state of Ukraine should not remain. Let's have a talk show about something else. Like how hedgehogs reproduce...
    But at the top you can see. If we want to save something after decommunization and desovietization - a village or two with the name Outskirts (well, their president is not Uleksandrovich, but Oleksandrovich) - but don’t care.
    When I play strategy, it's better to reduce the number of opponents so that decision making becomes easier.
    In real life, the opposite is true - multiply the number of opponents, and make them balance.
    This is what the Romans invented.
    But they got burned on one thing - you can’t split up your opponents to a clan, to a family - self-organization comes out of chaos - and after a dozen scattered communities, several thousand angry families suddenly appear, you will get tens of thousands of Huns.
    1. Rusich56 Offline Rusich56
      Rusich56 (Vladimir) 28 March 2022 15: 02
      +2
      I agree with you ... All regions of the former Ukraine should be Russian, with the exception of the western ones ... We still need to think about them what to do with them. They are alien to the Russian (Ukrainian) people. But they cannot be given to the paths either.
  3. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 28 March 2022 12: 05
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    Enough already of the Poles to bestow land. Stop in dreams stop
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 March 2022 13: 27
      -3
      I consider getting rid of memory a boon for Russia and Ukraine, so I can’t stop.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 28 March 2022 13: 42
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        I consider getting rid of memory a boon for Russia and Ukraine, so I can’t stop.

        Do you have any other options to get rid of? Only Polish gentlemen to do something pleasant?
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 March 2022 17: 16
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          Do you have any other options to get rid of?

          Are you suggesting genocide?

          Only Polish gentlemen to do something pleasant?

          I want our soldiers not to die for this viper. And so that the Westerners do not poison the life of post-war Ukraine.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 March 2022 17: 54
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            Are you suggesting genocide?

            Are you seriously? belay Why are you laying your secret desires on me?
            After all, when you offer to give them to the Poles and considering that they will cope with this task, don’t you think that the power of the word is enough for this? Or do you still think? smile
            So far, it turns out that you do not know what to do with it and offer to act like an ostrich.
            Even there, and after a hard work of propaganda, not all of them are Nazis. The process is reversible.
            Somehow it is necessary to work with this territory, the question of methods, as they say, is not for my salary. I can offhand and without hesitation throw a few exotic options. (of course, this should not be considered as a program statement).
            We are renaming misto Lviv to Akhmat, the guys from the sister city of the new capital, Grozny, will provide the necessary ideological assistance to the sponsored territory yes Especially if by decree of the commander-in-chief they will be granted ancestral possessions.
            Program "Carpathian hectare". The security forces who proved themselves in the ongoing operation right now and earlier in the fight against terrorism receive plots, money for the arrangement and development of paramilitary settlements. The experience of the Cossacks has proven itself quite well.
            All sorts of muddy organizations like the Uniate Church should not be there by definition. No need to try to be holier than the Pope, you have to be firm. Otherwise, sectarians who draw such pictures will never be translated.


            I want our soldiers not to die for this viper. And so that the Westerners do not poison the life of post-war Ukraine.

            How unexpected, you called for so many troops to be sent there. Did you really think that everything would go without casualties?
            The viper must be recultivated, the fence cannot be closed from it.
            Are our soldiers already dying there, or are you only concerned about geographic reference? If it’s not necessary in Volyn, but let yourself near Kiev? They are shot by the same people.
            "Westerners" will poison life, regardless of whether they are part of Poland or not. Understand that nothing will change for the better from this. They will, under the leadership of the Americans and other Swedes, prepare a "liberation army" for sabotage. The forge of personnel will receive a reliable roof. You can not give the Polish hyena not an inch of land.
            I don’t know how it will develop further, maybe it will be a separate subject of the federation or a separate state, but you can’t give it away from the West under any sauce.
            1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 March 2022 18: 33
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              Are you seriously? belay Why are you shifting your own secret desires onto me?
              After all, when you offer to give them to the Poles and considering that they will cope with this task, don’t you think that the power of the word is enough for this? Or do you still think? smile

              You are an ordinary retired demagogue. I won't waste my time on you anymore. hi

              I can offhand and without hesitation throw a few exotic options. (of course, this should not be considered as a program statement).
              We are renaming misto Lvov into Akhmat, the guys from the sister city of the new capital city of Grozny will provide the necessary ideological assistance to the sponsored territory yes Especially if they are granted ancestral possessions by decree of the commander in chief.
              Program "Carpathian hectare". The security forces who proved themselves in the ongoing operation right now and earlier in the fight against terrorism receive plots, money for the arrangement and development of paramilitary settlements. The experience of the Cossacks has proven itself quite well.

              This is ridiculous. Your level is already clear.
              Pay attention to the opinion of other regular readers on this issue.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 March 2022 18: 37
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                You are a vile demagogue. I won't waste my time on you anymore.

                Correct solution good Spend it working on yourself hi
                They attributed to me dreams of genocide, threw white fluff on themselves (for sure, in your opinion, the Poles will give them each a bouquet of daisies and they will reforge). Based on this, they called me a demagogue and they themselves were offended by all this. laughing
      2. Defense Offline Defense
        Defense 28 March 2022 14: 16
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        And if you bargain with Poland: a memory for them in exchange for legal guarantees for the Poles to leave NATO?
        Although it is unlikely that the ghouls from the former Rech will go for it
  4. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 28 March 2022 12: 13
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    If something is divided, how can it be kept whole? No way.
    You can, of course, leave the office with the manager Zelensky to receive transfers from the West, at 99.9% taxes.
    LLC "Ukraine" Normally so.
  5. yo yo Offline yo yo
    yo yo (Vasya Vasin) 28 March 2022 12: 32
    +2
    The word 'Ukraine' will forever disappear from the lexicon. Maybe, if only mentioned: "On the site of the former Ukraine was created....... "
  6. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 28 March 2022 13: 32
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    Quote: 123
    Enough already of the Poles to bestow land. Stop in dreams stop

    Where do you care about chess in politics, you don’t even know how to play towns.



    WHAT TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE? Destroy everyone, indiscriminately? Or give the opportunity to destroy them to others, their enemies, no less cruel Poles. They have perennial graters. More cruel than with us.
    1. Defense Offline Defense
      Defense 28 March 2022 14: 20
      +1
      I wrote above what can be done by giving the memory for the benefit of Russia - to bargain with psheks. It really makes no sense for us to re-educate Banderlogs. Let others do it, but it’s not reasonable to give away land just like that
  7. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 28 March 2022 14: 25
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    If they start dividing, then the Rivne region may go to Belarus. There is a nuclear power plant there.
  8. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 28 March 2022 14: 27
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    Will Ukraine be able to maintain its statehood if its territory is divided?

    - Oh, why discuss such a thing ... - is it premature ???
    - Personally, I am "a very specific person" (only facts - and nothing else); very incredulous and very superstitious! - Yes, and pilots, submariners, astronauts, etc. - they always try - not to "call" failure in advance !!!
    - Well, why share the skin of an unkilled beast!
    - How else can everything turn out there, what "stages" are yet to come; what "negotiations" (their results) and how they can affect the execution of the special operation!
    - Today, one should only hope that "all sorts of meetings", "agreements", "agreements", etc. will not start - where it starts to sound - "We are open for dialogue"; "Ready to discuss" and so on and so forth !!! - It will be - everything !!! - "Minsk agreements" will just stand and nervously smoke on the sidelines !!!
    - Even now, personally, I am very much alarmed by the fact that a meeting between Putin and Zelensky may take place!
    - One has only to hope and hope that the special operation will continue until the entire territory of Ukraine is completely cleared of the Nazis - until the complete surrender of all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the signing of surrender by the government of Ukraine, followed by the dismantling of the political structure of Ukraine as a state - without any conditions put forward by the government of Ukraine ! - This is not a war - but this is also possible!
    - And everyone there - "reached an agreement"; "found mutual understanding"; "a number of concessions were made on both sides on a mutually beneficial basis"; "continued cooperation in further consideration of some aspects" and so on and so on and so forth !!!
    - All this could have happened before - until the shooting started! - And now this is simply impossible! - Yes, and too terrible, vile, inhuman and savage - the enemy turned out to be! - It’s better with such a person in general - not to agree on anything - you just need to destroy it !!!
    - And only then decide - what to build and create in a liberated country!
    1. Rusich56 Offline Rusich56
      Rusich56 (Vladimir) 28 March 2022 15: 12
      +1
      BRAVO to the Author!... I am also afraid of the meeting between Putin and Zelya... This will do much harm to President Putin, VERY!
      No concessions, complete surrender on Russia's terms. And such a state should not exist anymore!
  9. Valera s Poskota (Valera) 28 March 2022 14: 48
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    This is all very beautiful, but with such ease to share what does not yet belong to us somehow does not look very good.

    In addition to the territorial issue, there is also a social issue. What to do with all these "zombies" that do not climb out of telegram channels and constantly feed on this information? This is the bulk of the population of the future country for the place of Ukraine. They will not be able to be expelled / deported, they will have to work with them, carry out "socialization", explain "at what stage of your life did you turn the wrong way" and that's it.

    So far, there are many more questions than answers, but in general, the trend is positive for us.
  10. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 28 March 2022 15: 32
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    Quote: Bulanov
    If they start dividing, then the Rivne region may go to Belarus. There is a nuclear power plant there.

    Such a gift must be earned. A multi-vector policy will not work. Begging, too. Do you still lack the courage to recognize Crimea as Russian? And the recognition of Donbass, Lugansk? And while dreaming? Go, serve the common cause of the CSTO.
  11. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 28 March 2022 15: 34
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    Quote: Valera from Poskota
    This is all very beautiful, but with such ease to share what does not yet belong to us somehow does not look very good.

    In addition to the territorial issue, there is also a social issue. What to do with all these "zombies" that do not climb out of telegram channels and constantly feed on this information? This is the bulk of the population of the future country for the place of Ukraine. They will not be able to be expelled / deported, they will have to work with them, carry out "socialization", explain "at what stage of your life did you turn the wrong way" and that's it.

    So far, there are many more questions than answers, but in general, the trend is positive for us.

    Zombies are easy to squeeze out to the West. Mass execution, according to the verdict of the court, of course, the Nazis from Azov and the like. Fear of exposure will make you not hide, but tear your claws.
  12. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 28 March 2022 17: 02
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    Everything is as on the map. Kiev is the capital of Little Russia with the Russian governor general and the 2nd officer. languages. And the ban on everything Ukrainian (in the context of anti-Russian). In New Russia, the ban on the Ukrainian language, especially symbols.
  13. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 28 March 2022 17: 17
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    The EU is wrong to think that Russian society is not ready to endure the consequences of an economic war. We will soon see how ready Western society is for this.
  14. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
    sH, arK 28 March 2022 17: 23
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    The question is posed incorrectly, correctly "does it make sense at all to give statehood to any part of the former Ukraine?" I don't think it makes sense to leave it even within Western Ukraine - why?! This is a potential bridgehead like tribaltics! Why does Russia need it? It is much more acceptable, under certain conditions, to divide the Western Durkaina between Hungary, Romania, Poland and Slovakia - firstly, potential points of conflict will arise, and secondly, mutual recognition of all changes is mandatory! And of course, it is foolish to leave these territories without significant military influence! Carthage must be destroyed, and even Galicia and others - even more so!
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 March 2022 18: 34
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      It is much more acceptable, under certain conditions, to divide the Western Durkaina between Hungary, Romania, Poland and Slovakia - firstly, potential points of conflict will arise, and secondly, mutual recognition of all changes is mandatory!

      You explain this to our demagogue.
  15. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 28 March 2022 17: 28
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    Will Ukraine be able to maintain its statehood if its territory is divided?

    - Yes, what kind of division of Ukraine is there! - Look, our delegates will fly to Turkey tomorrow - again, once again, "negotiate"! - This is again tomorrow for the whole - our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - even if they do not declare a "day of silence" - it does not matter - the intensity of hostilities will noticeably decrease! - Ukraine is playing for time - soon everything will be covered with greenery - and Mariupol has not been taken!
    - And how they beat the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Luhansk and Donetsk from everything they have (artillery, MLRS, etc.) - and everything is with impunity!
    - Yes, it's time to "estimate" - how to carry out the "division of the territory of Ukraine" - solid "Manilov's dreams" !!! - There are simply no other problems!
  16. Avarron Online Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 28 March 2022 17: 29
    +1
    Whatever you leave from Ukraine, it will inevitably remain a hotbed of Nazism and a gangster cesspool. If you leave Western Ukraine, let alone allow Poland to take it away, the Americans will not allow the Poles to "beggar" Bandera, on the contrary, they will be called heroes of the struggle against Russia, they will be appointed Gauleiters in exile and will support in every possible way their desire to win back what they have lost.
    Whatever shmatki remains from Ukraine, it will be a source of big problems both for Russia and for those Ukrainians who will simply live peacefully under the wing of Russia. There will be night raids by Bandera, murders of Russian language teachers and pro-Russian leaders. After the Great Patriotic War, it was, why would this not happen again.
    Therefore, for Russia it is necessary to clean Ukraine completely from the Nazis, and Europe from the Americans, as from the main infection on the continent. Until complete denazification, no territories can be given to the Poles. Well, after denazification, giving anything to the Poles would already be a crime against our fallen soldiers.
    If the Poles need Western Ukraine, let them fight for it themselves with Bandera.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 March 2022 18: 35
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      Whatever you leave from Ukraine, it will inevitably remain a hotbed of Nazism and a gangster cesspool. If you leave Western Ukraine, let alone allow Poland to take it away, the Americans will not allow the Poles to "beggar" Bandera, on the contrary, they will be called heroes of the struggle against Russia, they will be appointed Gauleiters in exile and will support in every possible way their desire to win back what they have lost.

      Learn what the Volyn massacre is, and who did Bandera genocide, Russians or Poles.
      One should not exaggerate the importance of American pointers for the internal life of Poland. Vaughn, on the issue of migrants, they sent Brussels to hell.
    2. argo44 Offline argo44
      argo44 (mac) 28 March 2022 23: 26
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      Quote: Avarron
      If the Poles need Western Ukraine, let them fight for it themselves with Bandera.

      Agentura niemiecka wymyśliła Ukrainę, a CCCP to potwierdziło. Myśmy walczyli o SWOJĄ ziemię w latach 20tych, a po 1945 zostaliśmy okradzeni - gdyby nie to, nie byłoby banderowców dzisiaj. Nie będzie żadnych korytarzy. Będzie nowa Jałta, gdzie odzyskamy WSZYSTKIE KRESY wschodnie, a do tego Ukrainę po Dniepr w ramach odszkodowania.. I wtedy będzie spokój. A co do tego Wegrom, albo Rumunom? Nic.

      German agents invented Ukraine, and the CCCP confirmed this. We fought for our land in the 20s, and after 1945 we were robbed - if not for this, there would be no Bandera today. There will be no corridors. There will be a new Yalta, where we will return all the eastern borders, and besides, Ukraine after the Dnieper as compensation .. And then there will be peace. What about Hungarians or Romanians?
  17. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
    gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 28 March 2022 18: 05
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    Let's not make assumptions. First you need to destroy the ban dformation. To divide Ukraine, I believe, to nothing. This is Russian land. But everything will be decided later.
  18. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 28 March 2022 18: 26
    +1
    What section ... What independence ... Under the supervision of the CAA, otherwise it's great again ... No fascist will re-educate himself ...
  19. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 28 March 2022 20: 47
    +1
    Most of all I liked the map at the beginning of the article ... but I would also paint over the part that is marked with Ukraine with red paint .... Well, guessing about what will or will not happen is not serious, they don’t keep fools in the Kremlin, but sometimes individuals get in the way, one of which has long since disappeared over the hill, yes, there is. And most importantly, you need to change your mindset. The West, to which we are all accustomed, no longer exists, there is a war going on not only in Ukraine, but also with the geyrope enemy, and this territorial entity also needs to be denazified so that they do not bend their line against Russia in the future!!!
  20. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
    Roma Phil (Roma) 28 March 2022 21: 05
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    And here is what "Country ua" writes:

    Tabloid Daily Mail and The Times.

    According to them, Abramovich allegedly flew to Russia to "hand Putin a handwritten note from Zelensky, with peace conditions from Ukraine," but Putin replied to this, "Tell him that I will smash them (Ukrainians - Ed.)." As an intermediary between the parties to the conflict, Abramovich flew between Istanbul, Moscow and Kiev.

    In particular, in Istanbul, he met with MP and member of the Ukrainian negotiating group Rustam Umerov and Erdogan's press secretary Ibrahim Kalyn and "it looks like they have made progress in future personal negotiations, which should continue this week."
    Kalyn allegedly put forward the idea that Crimea and Donbass should be on a long-term lease from the Russian Federation, as was the case with Great Britain and Hong Kong from 1898 to 1997. The publication writes that Putin is considering such an option.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 28 March 2022 21: 31
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      With all due respect, but what kind of lease of Donbass and even more so Crimea can be, they paid for their entry into the Russian Federation with blood, I think that the guarantor closed this issue once and for all, and the whole of New Russia has nothing to do with the outskirts. The outskirts as a state should not exist within any borders
      1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
        Roma Phil (Roma) 28 March 2022 22: 17
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        The Ukrainian Internet newspaper "Strana ua" refers to the Times.
        And if the Turks offer this option, it does not mean at all that it will be accepted by the Kremlin.
        1. shiva Offline shiva
          shiva (Ivan) 28 March 2022 23: 30
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          "Inspector Lestrade is Scotland Yard's best inspector," says The Times...
  21. Nelyubin Offline Nelyubin
    Nelyubin (Stas) 28 March 2022 22: 27
    +3
    Before giving Galicia to the Poles, it is necessary to raze it to the ground, not to leave stone unturned there.
    1. argo44 Offline argo44
      argo44 (mac) 28 March 2022 23: 28
      -1
      Bo..? Niby dlaczego? Żebyś mial satysfakcję? Lecz się, bo jesteś taki sam jak banderowcy.

      Because..? Why? To get satisfaction? Get treated, because you are the same as Bandera.
  22. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
    Yuriy88 (Yuri) 29 March 2022 06: 36
    +2
    yes, just fight and leave will not work! The meaning then is in everything .. The liberated territories are under full administrative and military control .. A broad post-peace "anti-Bandera" operation in these territories, with every person being sifted through a sieve. Then there will be peace and tranquility, but not Ukraine anymore..
  23. Krilion Offline Krilion
    Krilion (Krilion) 29 March 2022 08: 22
    +1
    no Ukrainian statehood is needed .. the entire territory should be divided into provinces and annexed to Russia .. if you leave at least a piece of Ukraine, Nazism will revive on this territory with the help of Europe .. again it will be a springboard against Russia .. so there is only one option - annex to Russia entirely ..
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 29 March 2022 11: 23
      0
      I agree 100%, in no case should you leave the former outskirts, otherwise the next war will already be on the territory of Russia
  24. Nurullo Berdiev Offline Nurullo Berdiev
    Nurullo Berdiev (Nurullo Berdiev) 29 March 2022 10: 48
    +1
    Work brothers -z!!
  25. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 29 March 2022 16: 42
    +1
    Of course he can save in caches.
  26. ltc22A Offline ltc22A
    ltc22A (Dmitriy) 29 March 2022 20: 21
    0
    Quote: Rusich56
    BRAVO to the Author!... I am also afraid of the meeting between Putin and Zelya...
    No concessions, complete surrender on Russia's terms. And such a state should not exist anymore!

    The meeting between Ze and Putin is possible only at the signing of the SURRENDER on the terms of Russia
  27. Anatoly Porotnikov (Anatoly Porotnikov) 30 March 2022 07: 37
    0
    There is a good map in the header of the article, I like it.)))