Why Russia changed the course of the military operation in Ukraine


In the course of a special military operation for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, there has been a noticeable turning point. And we are not talking about what is happening on the battlefield, but, on the contrary, in the rear, which is even more important now. A month after the entry of Russian troops into Nezalezhnaya in the liberated territories, local authorities finally began to appear alternative to the Kiev regime, and the go-ahead was given to send volunteers from Russia itself to the front. Why did this happen now, and what will be the possible consequences?


Changing Approaches


For a whole month after the start of the JMD, everyone closely watching what was happening in Ukraine asked perplexed questions about why Russia's actions were exclusively military in nature. Why are the state symbols of the Square preserved in the liberated territories? Why do local Russophobic-minded authorities remain, who, once in the rear, begin to arm the “partisans” and offer resistance? Why is the Kremlin stubbornly silent about the future of Ukraine, about the possible transformation of the form of its state structure? Why does Moscow stubbornly insist that there will be no occupation of the liberated territory, although from the point of view of ensuring the national security of the Russian Federation, this is absurd. Etc, Issues, including, we had a lot.

All this created the impression that, according to the original plan of the special military operation, it should have taken only a few days: to receive flowers and bread and salt from the Ukrainians who met them, from the authorities - the keys to the cities, from the APU-shnikov - friendly fraternization. Having accepted the capitulation of Kyiv, our troops would calmly leave, honorably fulfilling their internationalist duty. Unfortunately, it turned out differently. 8 years of neo-Nazi Russophobic propaganda did their job, and the Russian military in Nezalezhnaya was met with fire. If in the first weeks we tried to treat the Ukrainian military as humanely as possible, now we are fighting in earnest. The jokes are over.

But, alas, the original approaches to conducting a special military operation continued to be preserved. Moving forward, our troops left behind not a reliable rear, but a power vacuum, which was quickly filled again with anti-Russian elements who began to distribute weapons and actively prepare various dirty tricks. All this was very annoying for adequate Ukrainians, who would be glad to cooperate with the new authorities, but since the Russians themselves did not want to become this government, they preferred not to get involved, so as not to get machine gun fire into a car or an apartment window later.

And now, finally, there have been fundamental changes. Oleg Tsarev, a veteran of the movement for the liberation of Ukraine and the creation of Novorossia, said that a decision had been made to create military-civilian administrations in the liberated territories, as well as to send Russian volunteers to the front:

Issue resolved! Anyone can apply to the military enlistment office at the place of residence. Commands and instructions are already in place. Offers.

This may mean that the Kremlin has come to the conclusion that there is no alternative to the need to take the former Square under its control. Why ex? Because this country will definitely never exist within its former borders, and it is possible that it will completely turn into something else. This was actually stated in plain text by the special representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova:

We call on the Zelensky administration, I don’t know what to call it, this group of comrades, to think about the fate of the country, people, the life of the population, draw conclusions, take appropriate decisions. They have already missed the main chance for the existence of Ukraine within their own borders, a sovereign Ukraine, an independent Ukraine.

But now we need to move on to the question of why the change in approaches occurred right now, exactly one month after the start of the special military operation.

Eastern "dreams"


It is very likely that Warsaw's unusual activity prompted Moscow to take this step. In fact, now Poland is in the same position as Turkey was before the start of its operation in northern Syria.

So, in a neighboring country, full-scale military operations are taking place with the use of heavy weapons, aviation, army and navy. Almost 3 million refugees have already fled to Poland from Ukraine, and not all of them are meek and ready to take on any low-paid job. On the contrary, some "descendants of the Sumerians" very unpleasantly surprised the Europeans with their ambition and defiant behavior, demanding that they be provided with five-star hotels for free and provided with other gratuitous assistance. In addition, among them there are many bearers of Nazi ideology and admirers of the war criminal Stepan Bandera, whose “legacy” the Poles have even more claims than the Russians. All or part of these people need to be put somewhere, since they simultaneously overloaded the entire socialeconomic Poland's infrastructure, bringing chaos and disorder into the normal life of the local population. Plus, against the background of the apparent collapse of Ukrainian statehood, for the first time a real prospect loomed of resolving the issue of the return of the Eastern Cresses - that part of them that is still part of Western Ukraine.

Apparently, the Americans intend to take advantage of the situation to try to push Poland and Russia into an armed conflict. At the extraordinary NATO summit held the day before, its participants decided that the alliance would not send its troops to Nezalezhnaya. The US is in the same position. However, the scale of the accumulated problems is pushing Warsaw to take action. Polish troops are consistently accumulating in the border area. At the same time, it is somehow forgotten that back in 2014 a special Lithuanian-Polish-Ukrainian brigade (LITPOLUKRBRIG) was created with "peacekeeping" purposes, based near Lublin. Apparently, US President Joe Biden, who personally flew to Warsaw today, is directly pushing for the entry of the Polish armed forces and their clash with the Russians. The American general, the former commander of the joint forces of the North Atlantic Alliance in Europe, General Wesley Clark, clearly rubbing his hands in anticipation, is already relishing that the Russian Defense Ministry will be forced to use tactical nuclear weapons against the Republic of Poland.

The key question that needs to be asked is, do the Russians and Poles need the Anglo-Saxons to push them against each other, like naive natives, for the sake of Anglo-Saxon interests?

Of course not. In part, we have already touched on this issue, reasoning on the topic of how profitable or disadvantageous for Russia is the possible division of the former Square together with its Eastern European neighbors. From adequate counter-arguments, it sounded that in this way NATO would expand even more to the East. There was also something about the fact that the “grandfathers fought” for Volyn and Galicia, and therefore the “Kemsk volost” should not be given away in any case, but on the contrary, it must be firmly tied to Ukraine as part of the federation. Well, this is a position that has every right to exist. But you can look at the situation from a different angle.

Yes, the NATO bloc will de facto expand somewhat to the East, but not in the same way as it would be if all of Ukraine joined the North Atlantic Alliance. And most importantly, in response, Russia will de facto expand to the West, gaining a common border with Poland, Hungary and Romania. This can happen, say, in the format of the Union State with Ukraine and the former Ukraine.

Is it worth shedding tears for the "Kemsky volost" in Western Ukraine? Are they waiting for us there? This region has always been Russophobic, now our people have nothing to do there at all. Real denazification and Russification of Galicia and Volhynia is simply impossible. A huge number of various weapons have been accumulated there, which will be used against the Russian military. Why do we need all this and for what? Removing them from Ukraine is like cutting off a gangrenous limb: it is insulting, painful and scary, but it is necessary to save the rest of the body and give it a chance to recover.

In this vein, the official annexation of Galicia and Volyn to the Republic of Poland according to the "Crimean scenario" will allow Russia to solve a lot of serious problems. Instead of our soldiers running around the "green" after the militants and looking for caches with weapons, the Poles will have to do this. They themselves internee the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who remained on their territory, disarm the militants of the defense and simply bandits. The Poles themselves will debanderize Western Ukraine with great pleasure. They will also begin the legal restitution of their property, on which the westerners once laid their paws. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will only need to equip a new border with the Republic of Poland. For everything that comes from the other side, it will be possible to officially ask from Warsaw, and not from the endless and faceless "forest brothers".

Let's make a reservation that above we described the possible advantages of the "Crimean scenario" with the official reunification of the former Eastern Creshes with Poland. The “Idlib scenario”, which President Joe Biden is clearly pushing, is definitely not needed by Russia. With that in mind, here's what you can expect.

For example, Moscow turns a blind eye to the introduction of Polish peacekeepers and military personnel to Western Ukraine under the condition of disarming the Armed Forces of Ukraine and local territorial defense and holding a referendum there according to the “Crimean scenario”. Russian and Belarusian troops with red squares on technology as a guarantor of the fulfillment of obligations. If the Eastern Crosses officially become part of Poland, a new state border is de facto formed, and everything that happens beyond it is no longer our problem. If, however, the referendum is not held within the reasonable timeframe stipulated in the informal negotiations for the organization of the referendum, then the "peacekeepers" will have to be squeezed out by force. But this will be the choice of their political leadership.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 25 March 2022 15: 44
    +1
    And the Poles have not yet worked with Sadov from Lvov so that he becomes Lvov's "Aksenov"? It's amazing how the priests haven't "confused Kozlevich" yet?
  2. Avarron Online Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 25 March 2022 16: 02
    +1
    That is, Russian soldiers are now fighting to give Poland Western Ukraine? For the families of the Nazis who stole in the Donbass to fulfill their dream and get to Europe with all the loot, where the hands of the LDNR soldiers can no longer reach them? For the fact that, under the wing of Poland, the shortcomings in comfort and security continue their dirty work and become the "Government of Ukraine in Exile", which is recognized by the entire West and will supply them with weapons, stuff them with money and encourage them to spoil Russia already from under the wing of NATO?
    Usually the author writes sensible articles, but this time it's some kind of game.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 March 2022 16: 18
      +1
      For the fact that, under the wing of Poland, the shortcomings in comfort and security continue their dirty work and become the "Government of Ukraine in Exile", which is recognized by the entire West and will supply them with weapons, stuff them with money and encourage them to spoil Russia already from under the wing of NATO?

      What prevents the establishment of a government in exile in Warsaw?
      Crapping from under the wing of NATO as part of Ukraine is one thing, as part of Poland it means getting a direct conflict with Russia. Do you feel the difference?

      That is, Russian soldiers are now fighting to give Poland Western Ukraine?

      Russian soldiers fight in order to ensure the security of their country. With Galicia as part of the UA, this is impossible.

      For the families of the Nazis who stole in the Donbass to fulfill their dream and get to Europe with all the loot, where the hands of the LDNR soldiers can no longer reach them?

      As part of Poland, Westerners will be pinched through restitution. We just can't do it.
      If you wish, you can reach the criminals abroad using Mossad methods.

      Usually the author writes sensible articles, but this time it's some kind of game.

      I just understand the issue better.
      1. Prosha54 Offline Prosha54
        Prosha54 (Sergei) 26 March 2022 19: 23
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        Talk nonsense, this is your fantasy that the Poles will deal with Bandera and they will not deal with it, but simply mobilize them and all their sympathizers and we will have a continuous hemorrhoids and a bridgehead convenient for NATO, and then we will bite our elbows and wait when ...
    2. Tixiy Offline Tixiy
      Tixiy (Tixiy) 25 March 2022 19: 06
      +1
      And who needs this Bendera-Uniate hemorrhoids?
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 March 2022 19: 42
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        Poland needs. They will deal with Bandera better than us and will shake the Westerners out of their real estate by the right of restitution.
        But Russia does not need this Zapadensky hemorrhoids for nothing. New Russia and Little Russia are needed. IMHO.
        1. andyru1 Offline andyru1
          andyru1 (Andrew ) 25 March 2022 21: 31
          +1
          Do you think that having chopped off part of our territory (albeit formally not Russian) with impunity, the Poles will settle down on this?
          I think, only for some territorial concessions. Like the Suwalki corridor. Wide. About the width of Poland. They don't appreciate gifts. Do not know how.
          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 March 2022 07: 04
            +2
            Do you think that having chopped off part of our territory (albeit formally not Russian) with impunity, the Poles will settle down on this?

            If Russia takes the rest, then yes.

            I think, only for some territorial concessions. Like the Suwalki corridor. Wide. About the width of Poland. They don't appreciate gifts. Do not know how.

            But this is a very reasonable proposal, by the way. good
    3. Igor Pochkin Offline Igor Pochkin
      Igor Pochkin (Igor Pochkin) 26 March 2022 02: 25
      +1
      And why not exchange territories, Lviv to the Poles? And in return, get 1-2 voivodships from Poland, so that the border of Belarus and the Kaliningrad region would appear. In the meantime, Lithuania is fattening on our transit to Kaliningrad.
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 March 2022 07: 04
        +2
        Great idea.
      2. Prosha54 Offline Prosha54
        Prosha54 (Sergei) 26 March 2022 19: 26
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        And do you think that the Poles will even agree to listen to you with this proposal and their arrogance?
      3. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) April 1 2022 17: 44
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        Fair
    4. svetlanavradiy Offline svetlanavradiy
      svetlanavradiy (Svetlana Vradiy) 26 March 2022 07: 11
      +1
      Otherwise, Russia will simply have to raze the western territories of Ukraine to the ground. Do not send Russian troops into this serpentine.
  3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 March 2022 16: 03
    0
    Everything seems to be correct.
    But, here are the last two paragraphs!
    It's nice to hope that with this "agreement", for good, ALL our problem with the West will be solved.
    The fact that this line of dividing Ukraine (or any other) will be reasonable, AS A RESULT OF THE BATTLE, does not mean at all that by doing so it already automatically excludes the very need for a fight for it. On the contrary, it is impossible without a fight.
    Don't forget that the 3rd World War is not over yet, and one of its main initiators is behind Poland, extremely dissatisfied. It can be understood - his goal is not a piece of Ukraine, but Russia.
    Everything will really end when this initiator is completely deprived of his appetite for the foreseeable future. This will happen only when he is SUBJECTLY convinced that he will have to choose between prey and life within this perspective.
  4. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 March 2022 16: 29
    0
    We will have to FORCE him to ROLL UP his LIP, deprive him of the illusion of the proximity of the prey, nullify his confidence in his inevitable victory over us.
    In fact, we need to BREAK it.
    Khrushchev managed to break the States in 1962, and he did this with the help of "the main factor of peace on the planet" - nuclear weapons
  5. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 25 March 2022 17: 19
    0
    Again, the article and again it is necessary to give the territory to Poland. Other options are not considered at all and to say that we still won’t succeed there, despite the fact that even without starting to do anything there in western Ukraine, this is stupid nonsense.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 March 2022 17: 45
      0
      Again the article and again it is necessary to give the territory to Poland.

      Other options have been discussed in other articles. They proceeded from the fact that other countries would not interfere. But Poland, apparently, is ready.

      to say that we still won’t succeed there, despite the fact that even without starting to do anything there in western Ukraine, this is stupidly nonsense

      If you don't want to give Galicia away, don't give it back. Come and take it first if you can. And how many Russian soldiers will die in this case. And most importantly, why? What will you do with her then? Are you ready to go to Lviv as a teacher of Russian language and literature? Or would they send their daughter-teacher there to Russify the Westerners?
      ZU was already part of the USSR, so what? She left at the first opportunity, taking the rest of Ukraine with her. This is again jumping on the old rake.
      IMHO, it makes sense to win back what can really be kept: New Russia and Little Russia. The Western regions were as alien to us as they will be.
      1. Aleksey444 Offline Aleksey444
        Aleksey444 (Alexey) 26 March 2022 01: 27
        +1
        After the war, Khrushchev began to banderize Western Ukraine, amnestiing Bandera. If everything was Russified there, perhaps today this problem would not exist. Why can Ukrainians be made from Russian people, then it can be banderized, but Ukrainians cannot be Russified? The process is similar. Why will the Poles be able to debanderize, but we can't?
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 March 2022 07: 06
          -1
          Because Poland is ready to accept Galicia into the country, but the Russian Federation is not going to. This means that debanderization will be outsourced to Ukrainian partners. with the corresponding result.
          1. Prosha54 Offline Prosha54
            Prosha54 (Sergei) 26 March 2022 19: 28
            0
            Are you an adult at all? Do you seriously not understand that your rose-colored glasses are not even a delusion, but pure betrayal?
          2. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
            PhilPol 27 March 2022 19: 44
            0
            This is not a reasoning, but a play on words ... Here are the second halves: "Poland is ready to accept Galicia" BUT IS NOT GOING TO, "and the Russian Federation is not going to" BUT READY.

            Declarations do not necessarily correspond to intentions. Intentions are changing.

            This may mean that the glorification of Bandera is not being canceled, but is being refined and determined by certain limits that do not rise above universal human values. Did Bandera know all the behind-the-scenes intricacies? Did you take everything into account? Did you make the right choice?
      2. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 11: 32
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        If you don't want to give Galicia away, don't give it back. Come and get it first if you can. And how much Russian the soldier will die. And most importantly, why?

        So, you "uncovered, PAN Marzhetsky! I have been reading your articles for a long time - and I constantly smell some kind of rotten sips ... all the time I wanted to ask the question "whose will you be, serf?" Now-everything is clear, and campaigning for "give away unnecessary Volhynia and Galicia." and why for you the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are ALIEN! Everything fell into place. You are a stranger for US and YOUR for the Poles and those who are with them. And do not disguise yourself as "one of your own, who is for Russia" - you are a stranger to us. As for "come and take" - there will be an order from the Supreme Commander - we will come and take it, don't worry! And we will do everything that is necessary to win in the struggle for the security of our native country. Moreover, there is everything for this! And yes! It's good that people like you do not take part in making a decision on THIS issue! The present times contribute to the "involuntary uncovering" of people like you and the cleansing of the country. We don't believe you, no matter how hard you try. and therefore - przebaczać!
        1. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
          PhilPol 27 March 2022 18: 57
          0
          Your suspicions are valid. However, one must take into account the position of a person with a non-Russian surname: if he says "our troops" - they may object to him: "what are these YOURS ?!" ; well, if he says "Russian troops" - they may object to him: "what, for you, the Russians are NOT OURS ?!

          He did not write "come and take it, and how many of YOUR soldiers will die."
          He appealed to "clever men" who asserted too lightly: "do not give back."
          But how to do it?

          In general, your comment is not perfect, and the author's article is not perfect ...
          Article without balance of estimates. Therefore, it turned out in favor of "Poland from Sea to Sea". Willingly or involuntarily for the author.
      3. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
        PhilPol 27 March 2022 19: 18
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        But really, "there is no need to give up the western part of Ukraine"! It is quite probable that even without a theoretical "giving back" they will decide not to approach us. We must strive to objectively weigh all the pros and cons of both unity and independence. Truth requires a balance of evaluations. And you need to be given the opportunity to change your mind in the future.

        What will you do with her then?

        And what would the Poles do with it? You treat their success with faith, but you don’t believe in Russia’s success there.

        Come and take it first if you can.

        For some reason, the Poles have no doubt that they can. Ukraine's aspiration to the West does not mean "under the West". And "under Russia" - no! But on a par with Belarus, closer to Russia - perhaps ... After all, Russification of Belarus is not required. (That is, it would have been possible without the Russian language.) And the new small Ukraine will have as many vectors as you like, in contrast to the option within Poland. And you don't need to know the language - neither Polish nor Russian. The USSR was "too moralizing", biased, not liberal ... for the Galicia-Volyn minds, inflamed by the past and inflamed by the "well-wishers" Anglo-Saxons.

        What for?

        Denazification is desirable to complete. Otherwise, a flame will flare up from a spark. And there is no need to "teach them" - this is an humiliation for them. We must not prevent them from learning and building themselves. We are only against the priority of the nation over values.
  6. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 25 March 2022 17: 27
    +1
    Starting the operation, the Kremlin and personally the GDP were sure of a quick victory with the transition of the population in support of Russia. Hence the wrong actions. This was due to the false reports of pro-Kremlin sycophant analysts who are used to writing what the Kremlin likes. Leaving behind enemy lines, they received shelling of Belgorod, terrorists in the rear, attacks on supply columns and the delivery of humanitarian aid. The words of the GDP that there would be no occupation convinced the population that the Kremlin was preparing to leave the population at the mercy of the Nazis and leave. Such a statement also says that Putin does not know the true situation in Ukraine and lives in a world drawn for him.
    1. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
      PhilPol 26 March 2022 23: 04
      0
      The words of the GDP that there will be no occupation ...

      a necessary formality (legal hook) to legitimize precisely the "specialty" of a military operation, and leaving the won positions is a confirmation of the truth of the declared intentions.

      The restoration of the Nazi order after the withdrawal of Russian troops is the legitimization of the subsequent occupation.

      All this is not Putin's ignorance, but an understanding of the meanness of the world order, in which justice has to be, first of all, not defended, but "hatched out." In Stalin's words: "There is a logic of intentions, and there is a logic of circumstances. And the logic of circumstances is stronger than the logic of intentions."

      In order to direct the actions of the enemy to the development of a scenario that is beneficial to us (to lure us into a trap), we need to substitute ourselves.

      Leaving behind enemy lines, they received shelling of Belgorod, terrorists in the rear, attacks on supply columns and the delivery of humanitarian aid.

      It would not be worth it to allow this, if the risks were not too high, if the plans were not more than announced. After all, the point is not in Ukraine, but in the future world order. It is necessary to convincingly bring to clean water all evil spirits. And the more world support Russia receives, the more evil spirits (I repeat, this is not about Ukraine) we will be able to overcome without waiting any longer.
      So fewer people will become victims.

      The shelling of Belgorod (and not only) we would have received in any case ...
  7. Savin Offline Savin
    Savin (Savin) 25 March 2022 18: 46
    +1
    We will give up the western outskirts, we will receive a request for Kaliningrad, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands. Put your finger in your mouth and bite off your hand. Like children ... or provocateurs.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 March 2022 19: 40
      -1
      You write nonsense. Russian Kaliningrad and the Kuriles and Western Ukraine, which, in fact, is part of a foreign state, these are things of completely different orders.
      1. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
        PhilPol 26 March 2022 23: 21
        0
        That's right, "these are things of completely different orders." However, Savin had in mind a principle valid at all levels. When discussing your weak positions (western Ukraine), you need to balance them with equally large-scale designations of directions to strengthen them. One head it's good, but two better. Let us help you make your wildest dreams come true!
      2. Savin Offline Savin
        Savin (Savin) 29 March 2022 21: 00
        0
        You should look at the map of the Russian Empire. Warsaw was there too ...
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  8. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 25 March 2022 18: 58
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    If you don't want to give Galicia away, don't give it back. Come and get her first if you can

    When will the most powerful grouping of Nazis and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the east be defeated and ours will move towards the west to those 3 that have already been dumped in Europe, it will be possible to add 5 more lyams and who will defend this Galicia there? What partisans will scatter throughout the territory? more than half of the crests of heavy armor have already been destroyed, plus the one that was given to the DPR and LPR may not have been taken into account, and plus the equipment that is now being destroyed in the boilers, in the end, in fact, it is practically gone.

    ZU was already part of the USSR, so what? She left at the first opportunity, taking the rest of Ukraine with her. This is again jumping on the old rake.

    Are you 100% sure that the Poles will take these areas for themselves and put things in order there? Or maybe they will take half for themselves and in the second half they will collect all the rabble of the Nazis and again will not create problems for us? Shall we go to war again?
  9. Vladimir Golubenko (Vladimir Golubenko) 25 March 2022 19: 16
    +2
    The author works for Poland! You give one, after a while they will demand more. Take all of Ukraine within the Stalinist borders. And let the psheks fight with Bandera in their own Poland. There are already a lot of them. And one more thing - to open one-way traffic across the Polish border. There! So that Bandera, fleeing from the persecution of our troops, freely leave for Poland ..
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 March 2022 19: 29
      0
      The author works for Poland!

      To Russia and the Reporter edition.
      When the active phase of the war was going on in northern Syria, I wrote that Idlib would actually have to be divided, taking into account the interests of Turkey. I was scolded a lot in the comments, but in the end that's exactly what happened. North of Idlib by the Turks, south by Damascus. This has its pluses and minuses. But that's the reality.
      Why did it happen? Did someone listen to me? Of course not. It's just that I understand the essence of the ongoing political processes, and that's why the forecasts work.
      Will you also say that I worked for Turkey, or did I just do my analytical work well as a journalist and political scientist?

      You give one, after a while they will demand more.

      Anything can be requested. It is not necessary to give at all.

      Take all of Ukraine within the Stalinist borders.

      OK. But President Putin said that there would be no occupation. Do you have other information?

      And one more thing - to open one-way traffic across the Polish border. There! So that Bandera, fleeing from the persecution of our troops, freely leave for Poland ..

      They will leave, and then they will return and will be partisans.
      1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 56
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        OK. But President Putin said that there would be no occupation. Do you have other information?

        And WE are not going to OCCUPATE! You can only occupy the territory of a FOREIGN country, and we will simply return OURS! after all, according to INTERNATIONAL law, there is NO state border (since the times of the USSR) between the state of Ukraine and the Russian Federation (the successor to the USSR, by the way!)! IN SIGHT NO INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT between Ukraine and the Russian Federation "On the state border". So what are the claims? The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, on absolutely LEGAL grounds, are conducting a counter-terrorist Special Operation on OWN, internal territory of the Russian Federation! SHOT not right? wassat And try to RESPOND! They warned that “any intervention will be regarded as a direct attack on the Russian Federation, with all the ensuing ISKANDERS, DAGGERS and POPLAS! And NATO immediately became unnecessary! And the States turned out to be “out of state”! So in order to perceive this, you need to BE a citizen of the Russian Federation, and not MASK FOR it.
      2. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 13: 06
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        North of Idlib by the Turks, south by Damascus. This has its pluses and minuses. But that's the reality.

        Well, it's temporary, don't worry. Just UNTIL Syria CANNOT return ALL of its territories. including the illegally occupied US. And we, according to the agreement, have no right to help her in this matter - we were invited to help in the fight against ISIS, and that's all. But, it will take quite a bit of time and the situation will change, and everything will be as it should be.
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  10. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 March 2022 19: 27
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    Quote: Valera75
    Are you 100% sure that the Poles will take these areas for themselves and put things in order there? Or maybe they will take half for themselves and in the second half they will collect all the rabble of the Nazis and again will not create problems for us? Shall we go to war again?

    No, not sure. That's why I wrote the following

    If, however, the referendum is not held within the reasonable period agreed upon in informal negotiations for organizing a referendum, then the "peacekeepers" will have to be squeezed out by force. But this will be the choice of their political leadership.

    When will the most powerful grouping of Nazis and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the east be defeated and ours will move towards the west to those 3 that have already been dumped in Europe, it will be possible to add 5 more lyams and who will defend this Galicia there? What partisans will scatter throughout the territory? more than half of the crests of heavy armor have already been destroyed, plus the one that was given to the DPR and LPR may not have been taken into account, and plus the equipment that is now being destroyed in the boilers, in the end, in fact, it is practically gone.

    Ukraine has been preparing for a guerrilla war for 8 years. The main problems are yet to come.
    In Western Ukraine, we will have problems with Bandera for many decades. Don't be under the illusion that everything will be over soon...
    1. Aleksey444 Offline Aleksey444
      Aleksey444 (Alexey) 26 March 2022 01: 41
      +1
      If the Poles enter western Ukraine, they will already open the world there at their own discretion and at the behest of the United States. And there is a high probability that they will arrange a Bandera abscess there again. And it will be impossible to squeeze out the "peacekeepers" from there by force. This is an open attack on NATO. Therefore, they cannot be allowed into Ukraine. Then you won't get kicked out
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 March 2022 07: 11
        -1
        And there is a high probability that they will arrange a Bandera abscess there again.

        Do you know what the Volyn massacre is?

        And it will be impossible to squeeze out the "peacekeepers" from there by force.

        Почему нет?

        This is an open attack on NATO.

        An open attack on NATO will be only after the official accession of Galicia and Volhynia to Poland. Until then, no. If they set up Westerners against Russia (and they are already set up) on their territory, then this is their internal affair. It will be enough to organize a normal border. If someone twitches from there, officially kick back.
        1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
          Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 38
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          Quote: Marzhetsky
          Do you know what the Volyn massacre is?

          We know! But OUR knowledge is not limited to THIS, we also remember about Khatyn, and we have not forgotten Babi Yar, unlike you ... And if you think carefully, then there are 158 (!!) villages in the Polotsk region, and MUCH more. and you have only one Volyn in your mind ... If the training manuals allowed, Katyn would also be dragged in, probably? wassat
    2. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 02
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      Quote: Marzhetsky
      we will have many decades

      YOU, if we give it to YOU, the Poles? Won't your lip crack?
  11. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 25 March 2022 20: 17
    +1
    I completely agree that this would be the best choice right now. We don’t need Western Ukraine, I’ve been talking about this for a long time, it’s a cancer, even the Soviet Union could not make them human. However, we don’t need to treat the Poles as generously as a purely hostile people. Why do you take the Hungarians and Slovenes out of this frame? There, the peacekeeping corps should develop with all these forces and let them resolve their differences on their own. The recipe is shared and reigns in our interests for Western Ukraine.
    1. Aleksey444 Offline Aleksey444
      Aleksey444 (Alexey) 26 March 2022 01: 46
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      The Soviet Union did not clear them out, because the traitor Khrushchev granted amnesty to the Banderaites or allowed them to hold public office. All Bandera showed up during the war and were caught after it. If they had served their time, they would have left as old men without families, or would not have left at all. And they continued their dirty work
      1. opportunist Offline opportunist
        opportunist (dim) 26 March 2022 01: 56
        +1
        historically this is not the case. There were so many traitors during the Nazi occupation of Western Ukraine that they forced the Soviet leadership to declare an amnesty for some, because otherwise almost the entire population of Western Ukraine would have to be shot. Let's not forget that Western Ukraine was a place where there were most tortures and more of all the murders of Jews and one of the main factors for which this was done, This is due to the fact that huge sections of the population of western Ukraine voluntarily participated in virtual torture. That is why I say that we need to get rid of this cancer once and for all.
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 March 2022 07: 08
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      I completely agree that this would be the best choice right now. We don't need Western Ukraine, I've been talking about this for a long time, it's cancer, even the Soviet Union could not make them human.

      Yes exactly. IMHO.
  12. apanin Offline apanin
    apanin (Alexander Panin) 25 March 2022 22: 14
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    You are not speaking correctly. Different nationalities lived in the west of Ukraine, and during the military administration of the Austrians in WWI, massacres of Rusyns took place. The first concentration camp was organized there, and a deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing was carried out on these lands. The Ukrainians in those parts proved themselves to be Austrian sycophants, and they were spared their lives.
    Ruthenians or Russians should be able to return and live there.
    I doubt that the population has turned into an Orzher gang, but if so, then a large-scale investigation and re-education should be carried out, possibly with restriction of freedom of movement or even resettlement.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 26 March 2022 07: 07
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      I doubt that the population has turned into an Orzher gang, but if so, then a large-scale investigation and re-education should be carried out, possibly with restriction of freedom of movement or even resettlement.

      Yes, no one will actually carry out this, understand. Maximum - some kind of tribunal over the most odious characters.
  13. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 25 March 2022 22: 41
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    And, so again, volunteers / mercenaries ..
    Voluntary-compulsory.
    at the same time, they will get rid of the remnants of the overly active "Cossacks-populists-socialists". To EDRo and point.

    And Poland - of course, has moved away from the shock, and will try to fuss. Peacefully connected to the operation denatsinalizatsii. Also in the name of good and against Bandera. As soon as possible: - maybe he will take out the gold, maybe it will grow with the earth.

    We'll see.
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 26 March 2022 15: 12
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      You read less nonsense about volunteers. Call your recruiting office and they will be very surprised about the call of some volunteers. Why do they need the RF Armed Forces?
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    2. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 07
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      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      And Poland - of course, has moved away from the shock, and will try to fuss

      And, like a real hyena, it will try to bite off a piece from the "dying body".
  14. pavel_samsonovlist.ru (Pavel Samsonov) 26 March 2022 01: 07
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    Dear Sirs! Let's remember the story that says that Poland was part of the Russian Empire, as well as Finland. After the Soviet power came to power, the annexed territories were divided (Ukraine, Kazakhstan, etc.). Let's remind them of this again if they have forgotten: let's remind the Bulgarians who liberated them from the Turkish yoke, in the person of Russian soldiers, who, at the cost of 28 million Russian people, liberated Europe from Nazism. America should give a great power called Russia a choice for the inhabitants of Alaska, which at a certain time was given to the use of America, where monetary compensation was never destined to get into the Russian treasury. I would like to note that at the moment, the country is stronger and more truthful, like Russia does not exist and cannot be, because. European countries ignore the position of fair truth on the part of Russia and cannot provide anything contrary.
  15. Lena.4ernyaeva Offline Lena.4ernyaeva
    Lena.4ernyaeva (Elena Chernyaeva) 26 March 2022 08: 36
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    Maybe Poland, having received the "Kemsk Volost" back, will shut up and be a country more friendly to us. It’s bad for crests, because they are unlikely to be treated equally. They will be second-class people, and so they should!
    1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 12
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      Quote: Lena.4ernyaeva
      having received back the "Kemsk parish", it will shut up and be a country more friendly to us

      Yeah. shaz! Appetite grows while eating - then you want Kaliningrad (the thirst for possession of which is already unbearably tormenting), then - the Brest region, but the thirst for the Smolensk region and Moscow is already a historical fact! Only a lobotomy will help here!
  16. Olga G Offline Olga G
    Olga G (Olga G) 26 March 2022 09: 10
    +1
    I see one option - to raze the entire west of Ukraine to the ground. That is, bomb all objects to such an extent that it hiccups all Westerners for a long time. And to clean them there or not, it will be seen later.
  17. Igor Igorevich Semirechensky 26 March 2022 09: 37
    +1
    This is about the fact that, following the letter of international law on indigenous peoples, it is Russians that should be considered an indigenous and now divided people throughout Ukraine from the Carpathians and Przemysl in the West to the Don in the East. This position is easily proved by all existing historical documents, starting with the annalistic Tale of Bygone Years at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. There are no mentions of Ukrainians in medieval historical sources. Ukrainian ethnic identity appeared only in the XNUMXth century as a result of Polish and Austro-Hungarian colonialism to suppress Russian (Little Russian) identity. So the whole process of creating Ukrainian identity can be considered within the framework of the concept of "indigenous peoples" as a process of "conquest" in relation to the "indigenous peoples" of Ukraine - Russians and Little Russians:

    Over the past two centuries, humanity has repeatedly encountered the creation of "project ethnic groups". The Ukrainian project is the most unsuccessful... To the credit of the designers, it should be noted that the Austrians needed only Nerossia, the transformation of Nerossia into Anti-Russia is the merit of the next, Polish and German owners. The latest generation of Galicians are suicide bombers. People who do not have positive values, who cannot formulate the meaning of their existence and the existence of their state without mentioning the name of the "enemy" serve death in the most direct sense of the word. However, for the last 23 years, the Galicians have existed within the borders of the stillborn "Ukrainian state", enjoying the rights of a privileged minority. If tomorrow “Ukraine” loses Novorossia, without “third-rate” Russians, the Galicians will have nothing left to do but, with all their ardor, take up the complete Ukrainization of “second-rate” Little Russians. This will not last long, sooner or later it will give rise not only to the Makhnovshchina throughout the center and north-west, but also to the tearful requests of the Little Russians back to Russia. And then - work for psychologists and deprogrammers. As with people saved from a totalitarian sect.

    http://obshestvomt.ru/blog/43658499080

    So, for a real way out of the Ukrainian crisis, there has always been, is and will be the one and only hard-won and at least four times (in 1654, 1919,1945, 1991) historically confirmed truth:

    With the united action of the Great Russian and Ukrainian proletarians, a free Ukraine is possible; without such unity, there can be no talk of it.

    IN AND. Lenin

    That is, it is possible and necessary for Russia, and indeed for the whole world, precisely and only a Ukraine friendly to Russia, but the existence of a Ukraine hostile to Russia is out of the question, isn't it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skzg2t1E5fQ
    1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 21
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      the fact is that the only true would be the ABSENCE of Ukraine, as such - only the regions (governor generals), as part of the Russian Federation. No election - the administration is exclusively appointed by ORDER of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. With the formation of the Special South-Western Special Military District, and the deployment of Russian Guard troops in each city.
      1. You yourself, my dear, whom you inherit and represent here, in order to allow yourself, in your shameful for ancestors and living like-minded people, an opinion as harsh as it is illiterate without reference to authoritative opinions, while I give you the opinion of V.I. Lenin provided? In a word, ignorant and ignorant, It doesn’t bother you to learn before, “Study, son, science shortens our experiences of fast-flowing life!”, If at least you read Pushkin at school, and not ratted chewing gum from foreign tourists, and now your only Maydauns, where are the rotten cookies given to you!
  18. Plumber Sun Offline Plumber Sun
    Plumber Sun (San San) 26 March 2022 10: 16
    +1
    The fact that Western Ukraine is historically exclusively hostile to Russia ter. education, recognized in tsarist times. Nicholas II wondered: what could be the prize in the war of 1914? Galicia? And the answer was always negative! We do not need Galicia, which showed its hostility and cruelty towards us in the 2nd World War of today's Russia! Need not! The Soviet Union built factories and hospitals, theaters and institutes for the "Westerners", sent hundreds of teachers (a significant part of whom were brutally murdered by Bandera) to educate their children, but received nothing in return except hatred! We don't need them! Let them drown in their hatred! Losing the best sons of our people in Galychina is unacceptable! The author is right!
    1. Prosha54 Offline Prosha54
      Prosha54 (Sergei) 26 March 2022 20: 04
      +1
      It is necessary to take and educate the whole of Ukraine in order to immediately pull out the teeth from the snake, which will feed on the loss of land, "after being captured by the Muscovites", you just need to do everything carefully and take care of your people as much as possible, and adequate people are simply not visible anymore, they are silently doing their job, this "garbage" Goncharenka, Parubia and other abominations in plain sight ....
    2. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
      PhilPol 27 March 2022 16: 45
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      I disagree with the author (and have already given several arguments).
      Both tsarist Russia and the USSR were not liberal, and the Galicia-Volyn unbridledness demanded not care, but independence. And did not receive.
      People are different. And it is desirable to give people what they want to receive, and not what we want to give them. They wanted to be proud of the fact that they themselves rebuilt, they themselves learned, they themselves understood, they defended themselves ...
      It is especially insulting to lose the sons of our people where we are not expected. And don't do it unless there is another choice. We can "stand on the sidelines" so that where we are not expected, we can think about the example of other regions of Ukraine.
  19. bratchanin3 Offline bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 (Gennady) 26 March 2022 12: 38
    +1
    Zakharova is again starting her mantras about Ukraine within its former borders. Is this a Russian misfortune when the Russian establishment and the leadership itself do not know what they want, or maybe they mask their plans and desires at the expense of the lives of young Russian military? When are these brains going to think rationally?!
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 26 March 2022 15: 09
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      No politician will ever tell you the truth. The special operation will end and you will be told everything. Do not run ahead of the locomotive. Never do this.
    2. Prosha54 Offline Prosha54
      Prosha54 (Sergei) 26 March 2022 19: 34
      +1
      She does not think, she is a translator and not even always what will actually be, she does not have such a role and she plays it perfectly.
  20. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 26 March 2022 14: 12
    -1
    The author is correct.
  21. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
    igor.igorev (Igor) 26 March 2022 15: 07
    +1
    What kind of volunteers? Brad is insane. In which military registration and enlistment offices was given an order to accept volunteers? What Polish troops want to enter Ukraine? Author, where do you collect all this gossip? At grannies near the entrance?
    1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 27 March 2022 12: 24
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      Quote: igor.igorev
      Author, where do you collect all this gossip? At grannies near the entrance?

      No, he GENERATES them! His job is to provoke discontent, insecurity...
  22. Prosha54 Offline Prosha54
    Prosha54 (Sergei) 26 March 2022 19: 32
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    Quote: kriten
    Starting the operation, the GDP was confident of a quick victory with the population moving in support of Russia. The words of the GDP that there would be no occupation convinced the population that the Kremlin was preparing to leave the population at the mercy of the Nazis and leave. Such a statement also says that Putin does not know the true situation in Ukraine and lives in a world drawn for him.

    Well, no matter how much I read all kinds of comments, it seems that every first Messing, everyone knows what Putin thought and what he thought and calculated, are you normal?
    1. Awaz Offline Awaz
      Awaz (Walery) 26 March 2022 19: 58
      0
      and here you don’t have to have the gift of Messing. You just need to be able to listen to what officials say. And at that moment when they first begin to contradict each other and then to their original self, you begin to understand that something went wrong.
      1. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
        PhilPol 27 March 2022 16: 25
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        When officials begin to contradict themselves at once, distrust of them is bound to arise. But over time, the situation may change.
        For example, Putin could not initially say: "I decided to annex Ukraine, because there is no other way to change it."
        To make this more likely, it is necessary to convincingly show that after the withdrawal of Russian troops, the neutrality of Ukraine is not restored by itself. And why on earth should Russia rebuild a new Ukraine for nothing?
        1. Awaz Offline Awaz
          Awaz (Walery) 27 March 2022 19: 12
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          So, I don’t want to say bad words that are spinning in my head about the war with Ukraine. But according to what senior officials in the Russian Federation said in the early days and what they say a month later, we can confidently say that everything is not going according to plan. All this uniqueness, subtlety and humanity quickly disappeared in the middle of the month. Now the topic of the creation of occupational authorities has gone, which is correct, but a little belated. Also, there is still no unequivocal answer for how long the Russian troops will linger on the remnants of Ukraine and whether they will leave at all. This is very disturbing for the pro - Russian part of the population of Ukraine . They are afraid to show their views and integrate into new management structures.
          I understand everything, some deviations can occur in the process and you need to react and adapt to this, but when statements change to the opposite in a month - well, I don’t know ...
  23. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
    PhilPol 26 March 2022 23: 54
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    Why is it necessary to continue to think that nothing is changing in the west of Ukraine?!
    The whole world is changing! Russia will find more approval there too. It is only necessary to respect their point of view, even if it seems erroneous to us. Even if not for universal values ​​(well, not all at once), but for the sake of profit, the choice of a pseudo-authoritarian Russia, and not a pseudo-independent West (including Poland) is also likely. Perhaps, for this, the referendum should come there before the army ...
  24. instrument Offline instrument
    instrument (xxx) 27 March 2022 00: 57
    +1
    dearest author, to the Russian troops, and to Russia as a whole, not only in Volhynia, but also in central Ukraine and in the southeast (yes, the very part that has always been considered pro-Russian), a huge number of the population has a negative attitude, 100 years of brainwashing have not been in vain, and what, under Kharkov, Odessa, Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk, we will catch banderlogs, but not under lion? or will we also entrust the psheks? no, my dear, no Poles, only the creation of conditions under which the very existence of all this rabble would be unthinkable, in short, squeezing out of the country (into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, etc. geyropa) by other passionaries with pro-Russian views and moods. and there is no need to shag the Kemska parish ...
  25. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
    PhilPol 27 March 2022 15: 57
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    Is it worth shedding tears for the "Kemsky volost" in Western Ukraine? Are they waiting for us there? This region has always been Russophobic, now our people have nothing to do there at all. Real denazification and Russification of Galicia and Volhynia is simply impossible.

    Are waiting. Justice is always expected. Denazification is part of justice: the denial of the priority of national interests over common human values. Forced Russification is contrary to universal values. The region was just a gullible wilderness, susceptible to false enlightenment (because when justice is called a benefit, it is believed much more readily), conveniently located for the Anglo-Saxon "enlighteners" to roam. The Russian people don't have to do anything there. It is only necessary to offer the maximum favor and objective sources of information, along with respect for local news, whatever goals they pursue (if bad, then they will discredit themselves). Russia is more liberal than Poland: it does not seek to "profit" or "restore historical justice" (as Putin said: "Muscovites have long forgotten about that"). Russia offers objectivity: those who feel injustice, we will help them; whoever feels the strength to be completely independent, let him pay the full price for Russian goods, and let him blame only himself if he is once again deceived by the West.
    Is it worth shedding tears to the inhabitants of the west of Ukraine themselves?
    ____________________________
    And the Poles are waiting there?

    The Poles themselves will debanderize Western Ukraine with great pleasure. They will also begin the legal restitution of their property, which the Westerners once put their paws on.

    That is, the contradiction between Galicia + Volhynia and Poland is solvable, but not with Russia?!
  26. PhilPol Offline PhilPol
    PhilPol 27 March 2022 19: 24
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    OK. But President Putin said that there would be no occupation. Do you have other information?

    Putin said that Russia was not going to attack Ukraine. And we didn't attack. But the war is on. And there will be no occupation. But there may be another special operation similar to the occupation (but not identical to it).
  27. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 28 March 2022 10: 53
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    it is criminal to discuss any transfer of land to Poland, any army of Poland or some other army that enters the territory of the former Ukraine will be destroyed by Russian missiles as in the Yavoriv garrison
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 28 March 2022 10: 58
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      otherwise, under the guise of Polish autonomy, an eternal abscess of Svidomo fascism, like Taiwan, will appear, and eternal propaganda and eternal confrontation with the Russians, up to terrorist attacks in Moscow, but already under the umbrella of NATO ... clean up this territory, let them go to Poland to Germany (and who if he doesn’t leave, then to Magadan) we don’t need Svidomo

  28. Savin Offline Savin
    Savin (Savin) 28 March 2022 20: 50
    -1
    Why cut a living thing into pieces ... Well, it must be sewn to the body. Not without pain, but with hope.
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