Mobile anti-drone air defense teams can protect Russian rear areas from Ukrainian UAVs

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The frequency and, alas, effectiveness of Ukrainian terrorist attacks on Russian rear areas is constantly increasing. The damage caused by the “kamikaze” drones of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the domestic refinery accumulates, and after some time the quantity may turn into quality. What countermeasures can realistically be taken?

The most vulnerable places


We have already discussed this topic about increasing the intensity of Ukrainian air strikes on Russian refineries and other oil and gas sector facilities. concerned at the end of February. Since then, the situation has only worsened: the enemy is reaching enterprises located deep in the rear, equipment is damaged and requires repair and replacement, and there are already deaths among workers.



Unfortunately, this is only the beginning of a big terrorist war against Russia, as President Zelensky directly stated:

We have identified the most vulnerable places, those where we can cause him the greatest harm. And we will apply it.

What goals does Kyiv pursue by destroying or damaging facilities in the Russian oil and gas sector?

First of all, such tactics are aimed at depriving the Russian Armed Forces of the opportunity to actively maneuver, since armored vehicles simply will not move without fuel and lubricants. Of course, our troops will not be left completely without diesel fuel and kerosene, since the needs of the front come first, but the fuel shortage in Russia artificially created by the enemy also has its downside.

It is not difficult to guess that after the transition of quantitative damage to the domestic oil and gas sector into qualitative damage, there will be a certain increase in prices for motor fuel for the population and business, which, in turn, will entail an increase in the cost of other goods on the shelves. A decrease in the volume of exports of refined oil products abroad will reduce the revenues of the federal budget, as well as the effective private owners of these refineries.

In general, the continuation of such sabotage and terrorist attacks will have adverse consequences for the social andeconomic situation in our country. And Kyiv and the “Western partners” behind it are clearly not going to stop them, taking advantage of the holes in the Russian air defense.

Who is to blame?


In the comments, some angrily demand that Shoigu’s department provide everyone with a reliable air defense system. However, not everything is as simple as it seems. Why are Ukrainian drones able to fly so far over the territory of Russia and the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus?

Because there is no single continuous air defense system that covers it 100%. An anti-aircraft dome covers military installations at the front and in the rear, as well as the country's capital. And then the Ukrainian Tu-141 drones, turned into “kamikazes”, in 2022 We were able to fly a couple of times to the military airfield in Engels, where the Long-Range Aviation aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces are based.

Currently, a layered air defense system has been built between Moscow and Square, which quite effectively intercepts the vast majority of enemy drones. But with oil refineries and other civilian infrastructure, the situation is more complicated. Their protection is entrusted not to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, but to the Russian Guard, and this creates a lot of new organizational and technical problems.

Let’s say a Ukrainian drone, launched from somewhere in the Chernigov region, where a buffer belt was not created in a timely manner and there is no line of combat contact with a layered air defense system, took off and flew at low altitude over Russian territory, bypassing large settlements and military units to the oil refinery. At the moment when it hits an oil refinery, does its destruction fall within the competence of the Russian Ministry of Defense or the Russian National Guard?

An interesting question that entails the following. For example, by what means should the soldiers of the National Guard or the private security company hired by the owners of the oil refinery protect it? Shoot back with shotguns? So there simply won’t be enough personnel to cover the vast territory of the plant, and the effectiveness of such anti-aircraft fire is questionable.

Some military experts propose covering the border area with Ukraine with AWACS balloons and transferring hundreds of Shilka anti-aircraft self-propelled guns stored in storage warehouses of the Russian Ministry of Defense to private security companies. However, despite all the apparent promise of the topic of radars placed on airships and other balloons, neither the Russian army nor the Russian Guard have them in service here and now, so this conversation, alas, is pointless.

It’s quite interesting with “Shilki”. If there really are hundreds of them in storage, then the question is, why are they not at the front, where they are urgently needed to counter Ukrainian drones? Somewhere near Rabotino? After a small upgrade of the sighting device, you will get an excellent anti-aircraft gun that will cover the LBS from enemy FPV drones. Considering the acute need for Shilkas on the front line, calls to give them up to protect the rear sound rather strange. The transfer of the most serious combat vehicles to civilian private security companies will look even stranger.

Meanwhile, the above problems can be solved with the means actually available.

What to do?


For example, it is possible to create a continuous radar field in critical directions using universal mobile towers 40V6MD from the S-300P air defense system, which were developed to increase the capabilities of the air defense system to detect low-flying targets. On them, the radar rises above the ground at a height of 42 meters.

Mobile anti-drone air defense teams can protect Russian rear areas from Ukrainian UAVs

It can be increased even more by installing a tower on a special embankment hill or at natural heights. Mass production and installation of 40V6MD towers would dramatically increase the awareness of the Russian Ministry of Defense about low-flying Ukrainian UAVs, towards which attack helicopters or fighters can be sent.

In parallel with this, it is advisable to create mobile air defense groups through the National Guard. As you know, instead of Teroborona we have allowed to create in the regions certain state unitary enterprises whose tasks include “assisting law enforcement agencies, FSB agencies and military command and control agencies in maintaining public order, protecting the border of the Russian Federation, combating sabotage and reconnaissance units of foreign states and illegal armed groups, as well as combating drones by suppressing or converting signals remote control, damage or destruction of unmanned aerial vehicles.”

If you look at the Ukrainian experience in the fight against “Geraniums”, mobile air defense groups were created there, equipped with “zushka” and machine-gun twins on open pickup trucks. Knowing approximately what trajectory Russian drones could fly, the Ukrainian Armed Forces organized ambushes on them and even shot down some.

Similar mobile anti-drone air defense groups could be organized in Russia, in the most problematic regions, through state unitary enterprises under the control of the Russian Guard and in coordination with the Russian Ministry of Defense. They could act as the last line of air defense, and not only defense of strategically important objects.
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  1. +2
    17 March 2024 12: 32
    This is all a fight “with symptoms” in essence.
    but in reality, until 14, Ukraine successfully dismantled the army, no one could even think about any UAV raids, and Russian oligarchs invested money in Ukraine...
  2. +5
    17 March 2024 12: 48
    I remember the events of last year, the beginning of the active use of geraniums, then everyone laughed at the stupid outskirts who created mobile carts with heavy machine guns and searchlights to combat UAVs and here you are, now we have come to the same thing, but the main thing is that the leadership turned out to be stupid countries and defense organizations of which a year ago warned that we would have a similar situation, but then we all “cracked like nuts”
    1. +1
      17 March 2024 15: 37
      You just need to pay attention that “stupid” crests put DShK carts on them, which are more powerful than those in the photo.
  3. -1
    17 March 2024 13: 06
    Distribute shotguns to the population so that every citizen has the opportunity to shoot down a drone if detected! fellow
    1. +7
      17 March 2024 13: 18
      Quote: Strange guest
      Distribute shotguns to the population so that every citizen has the opportunity to shoot down a drone if detected! fellow

      It would be better if they gave brains to the leaders, but this is from the realm of fantasy, everything is fine with them, it’s not their children who are killed on playgrounds and their houses are not destroyed
      1. -2
        17 March 2024 13: 46
        There are many more advantages to my proposal than meets the eye at first glance.
        First, we will strengthen anti-drone defense.
        Secondly, 100 million shotguns and ammunition for them are a significant contribution to the growth of the industry.
        Thirdly, when mobilizing, everyone will come with their own shotgun.
        Fourthly, reducing the time and costs of training, since everyone will already be able to practically handle weapons.
  4. +3
    17 March 2024 13: 36
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces organized ambushes on them and even shot down some of them.

    Not some, but most of it. Such “carts” are very effective and mobile. It is not clear why in the 3rd year of the war there is nothing like this in Russia. After all, no one hid that there would be attacks on the infrastructure. This is strange. Someone is clearly chewing their bread in vain.
  5. +2
    17 March 2024 15: 21
    Where there are objects, ordinary hunters can be mobilized. The drone can even be hit with shot. Let them hunt. Give a cash bonus for every drone shot down. There are a lot of drones expected in the future. All this drone business is the reason for the protracted operation.
  6. 0
    17 March 2024 16: 49
    Quote: rotkiv04
    I remember the events of last year, the beginning of the active use of geraniums, then everyone laughed at the stupid outskirts who created mobile carts with heavy machine guns and searchlights to combat UAVs and here you are, now we have come to the same thing, but the main thing is that the leadership turned out to be stupid countries and defense organizations of which a year ago warned that we would have a similar situation, but then we all “cracked like nuts”

    The article specifically describes that the Ministry of Defense does not deal with issues of protecting objects, this is delegated to the Russian National Guard. The Russian Guard has MANPADS, but they are not very effective against small drones, here the enemy’s experience is probably interesting, but there are Shilkas, but they need to be brought into working condition, modified + crews must be recruited and trained. Something like this.
  7. +1
    17 March 2024 17: 19
    For some reason, they are keeping silent about one serious problem: not every bullet from a heavy machine gun and a shell from a shilka hits the target... Consequently, when an important object attacked by enemy UAVs is located within a city (populated area) or near it, there are serious casualties among the civilian population, the accompanying destruction (Judging from the experience of the Second World War and the Ukrovermacht.) is INEVITABLE...

    If the idiots frankly don’t give a damn about their citizens, then we don’t need such “accompanying” - “effects”...
    In the end, it is absolutely not our civilians’ fault that some very high-ranking and very unprofessional scoundrels, scoundrels and scoundrels, gave (completely without thinking with an empty head...) the order to “donate” the liberated border territories of the former Ukrainian SSR to the Ukrainian Reich , provided these corrupt NATO-Bandera creatures with good positional areas for shelling Our territories and, not only in the border areas, but in the deep rear...
    I wonder if at least one of these “commanding mediocrities” went to the graves of their compatriots who died from the shelling of our territories?... Let them not think, Russian history will forgive these “commanders” for this either meanness, or stupidity, or betrayal...
  8. +1
    17 March 2024 17: 25
    Previously, I proposed a simple and inexpensive solution to Russian air defense. Take a commercially available power transmission line support. The height of the power line support can reach 260 m. Build a cellular configuration from power line supports. Place power line supports 60-70 m high, at a distance of 40 km from each other, install a locator on top of the support, maybe 2-3, like on a ship. Below are supply trailers. A total of 10 power transmission towers cover 450 km. One “support” has a visibility radius of 40 km. This is the cheapest and fastest solution to closing holes in the Russian air defense. The installation of the support takes 4 working days, let the installation of antennas and connection take 6 days, a total of 10 days. Here, all components are mass-produced. It is estimated that 10 teams can cover a 450 km long section in one month. Solutions with flying and aeronautical vehicles are much more expensive and require a lot of time to develop and manufacture. Air defense is needed now.
  9. +1
    17 March 2024 18: 28
    For some reason, they are keeping silent about one serious problem: not every bullet from a heavy machine gun and a shell from a shilka hits the target... Consequently, when an important object attacked by enemy UAVs is located within a city (populated area) or near it, there are serious casualties among the civilian population, the accompanying destruction (Judging from the experience of the Second World War and the Ukrovermacht.) is INEVITABLE...

    If the idiots frankly don’t give a damn about their citizens, then we don’t need such “accompanying” - “effects”...
    In the end, it is absolutely not our civilians’ fault that some very high-ranking and very unprofessional scoundrels, scoundrels and scoundrels, gave (completely without thinking with an empty head...) the order to “donate” the liberated border territories of the former Ukrainian SSR to the Ukrainian Reich , provided these corrupt NATO-Bandera creatures with good positional areas for shelling Our territories and, not only in the border areas, but in the deep rear...
    I wonder if at least one of these “commanding mediocrities” went to the graves of their compatriots who died from shelling of our territories?... Let them not think that Russian history will forgive these “commanders” for this either meanness, or stupidity, or betrayal...
  10. 0
    17 March 2024 19: 17
    Any tall objects are suitable for creating an observation grid - mobile phone towers, factory chimneys, power lines, the radar itself with its tower, airships. So the “holes” were closed. And behind them is the air defense position area, and Shilki, and DShK on carts. You can assemble an objective squad, also mobile, from local hunters, with shotguns, wherever. The local military unit, again, can... There is no one to take care of it, but there are plenty of bureaucrats.
  11. 0
    17 March 2024 19: 39
    Yes, this is probably all good, but the best air defense is our tanks at enemy airfields.
    1. 0
      18 March 2024 08: 48
      Quote: bug120560
      Yes, this is probably all good, but the best air defense is our tanks at enemy airfields.

      Then it’s on the western border of Ukraine.
  12. 0
    18 March 2024 00: 31
    Divide the radar into modules according to functionality (emitter, receiver, processing information about received reflected signals). The modules should be placed partly on balloons and partly on the ground. Here is a cheap continuous radar field that can be adapted to detect, among other things, subtle low-flying targets.
  13. 0
    18 March 2024 09: 05
    Imitation of defense...The attacker can always choose the direction, strength, and mass of the attack. Taking away the air defense as you suggest is not great. The best air defense - tanks in Odessa, Ochakov, Nikolaev, Kherson...
    1. -1
      18 March 2024 09: 14
      Strange.
      Ukrainians are making nightmares about Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk, Kaluga, and you are talking about Odessa, Ochakov. In my opinion, Russian tanks in Sumy, Zhitomir, Chernigov are better.
    2. -1
      18 March 2024 10: 30
      In Soviet times, when military commanders were still front-line soldiers, there was a separate type of troops - the COUNTRY'S AIR DEFENSE!!!!
  14. 0
    18 March 2024 14: 25
    Temporary plug. Very soon, homing with AI will be removed and electronic warfare will become useless. We need to work proactively.
  15. +1
    18 March 2024 16: 01
    Any type of activity, including protection from a possible attack from the air on an arbitrary object on the territory of the country, requires its own methodology and its own tools, since it is necessary to SOLVE specific problems, and not make frantic attempts to cover the bare rear of the body. For this purpose, at one time, a branch of the COUNTRY'S air defense troops was created. Does anyone remember where the legs of the old MIG 31 come from? It was just one of the tools.
  16. 0
    19 March 2024 00: 34
    Similar mobile anti-drone air defense groups could be organized in Russia, in the most problematic regions, through state unitary enterprises under the control of the Russian Guard and in coordination with the Russian Ministry of Defense. They could act as the last line of air defense, and not only defense of strategically important objects.

    All this will end with the owners of housing and other real estate being forced to provide air defense to preserve their property, much like with fire safety and private security.