When will Russian UAVs “Sirius” and “Helios-RLD” appear on the fronts of the Northern Military District?

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A recent incident in the skies over the Sea of ​​Azov made us think about the question of whether it is possible to quickly replace the scarce A-50U and Il-20 aerial reconnaissance aircraft with something. Unfortunately, this problem cannot be solved so easily, but through the widespread introduction of unmanned systems it is possible to reduce its severity.

In the previous ARTICLES, dedicated to this issue, we somewhat mixed the functions of aerial reconnaissance and long-range radar detection, but only because in the harsh realities of the Northern Military District they can be tied to unmanned aerial carriers that are similar in their performance characteristics.



There are analogues


As often happens with us, in Russia there are several “almost ready” UAVs that could be used to solve the above problems. Much has already been said about the long-suffering heavy-class high-altitude reconnaissance UAV "Altius-U", also known as the former "Altair", so we will not repeat it. The drone has successfully passed state tests and can act as a carrier of the Sych radar suspension container, which is a simplified modification of the optical and radar reconnaissance system from the Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft.

Since we have two Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft, and the third one is just being produced, installing Sychas on front-line Su-34 fighter-bombers and high-altitude UAVs seems to be a rational solution. They promise that Altius is about to go into mass production. We're waiting, sir.

In the meantime, we are waiting, I would like to say a few words about the promising projects of another domestic company called Kronstadt. It started with licensed assembly and gradual localization of Israeli UAVs. The manufacturer’s main hit is the Orion medium-altitude reconnaissance and strike drone, which was positioned as the “Bayraktar killer.” In the attack version, the UAV can carry 6 KAB-20 units or 3 KAB-50 units or UPAB-50 glide bombs. Russian drones underwent their first baptism of fire in Syria, and were also used during the Northern Military District in Ukraine.


That is, unlike some other promising domestic UAVs, these actually managed to fight, and the need for them at the front is enormous. A modern plant has been built in Dubna, Moscow Region, where serial production has been established in several shifts. More than fifty specialized Russian enterprises act as suppliers of components. That is why there is reason to place some hopes on new projects of the Kronstadt company, which are of interest in the context of this publication.

For example, the UAV "Sirius", or “Forpost-RU”, which is a further development of “Orion”. Unlike its younger brother, Sirius is equipped with two engines with pulling propellers. The wing span of the drone has increased to 23 meters, length to 9 meters, and maximum take-off weight to 2,5 tons. The payload is now 450 kg versus 200 kg for Orion, service ceiling is 7000 m, cruising speed is 180 km/h. The armament of a Russian UAV can be represented by missiles, as well as aerial bombs, free-falling or gliding.

Overall, Sirius represents a natural and highly desirable evolution of the mass-produced Orions. In addition to purely strike functions, on the fronts of the Northern Military District, such aircraft-type drones would find wide application as aerial reconnaissance and spotters, as well as repeaters. They would be no less in demand in the Navy, where they could be used to patrol the Black Sea in order to search for and timely detect enemy sea drones.

Perhaps the greatest hopes in the context of the topic of our discussion are placed on the promising UAV "Helios-RLD". Already from the name it follows that this is a drone designed for conducting radar reconnaissance.

Helios-RLD is a further development of Orion, which has increased dimensions and significantly improved characteristics: the maximum flight altitude is 9000-11000 meters, the maximum flight duration is from 24 to 30 hours, the cruising speed is 350-450 km/h, the combat radius is 3000 km, and the payload mass has increased to 800 kg. Its main feature is the on-board radar, partially borrowed from the A-100 Premier AWACS aircraft. For obvious reasons, there are no technical details in open sources.

The Helios developers themselves note that their device cannot become a full-fledged replacement for the A-50U and A-100, but is capable of effectively interacting with them, complementing them. About this in an interview TASS said the general designer of Kronstadt, Nikolai Dolzhenkov, calling the development of a radar patrol drone an “arch-relevant direction” for Russia:

Helios-RLD aircraft must be combined into a network that interacts within the air defense system with an automated control system, and harmoniously combined with the operation of manned RLDN aircraft of the A-50 or A-100 type.

Indeed, several dozen specialized AWACS UAVs, being in shifts in the sky, are capable of creating a continuous radar field, interacting with our small number of A-50U and Il-20 reconnaissance aircraft. All that remains is to answer the question, why are there no Sirius and Helios at the front in commercial quantities?

The contract for the supply of the Sirius UAV was signed with the Russian Ministry of Defense back in 2021 at the International Military-Technical Forum Army-2021, which was officially announced by the Russian military department:

A state contract has been signed for the supply of the Pacer-RU unmanned aerial vehicle complex.

There is no exact information regarding the contract for the supply of Helios-RLD, but the developer promised that it will fly in 2024. We're waiting, sir.
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  1. +6
    17 January 2024 11: 37
    When will Russian UAVs “Sirius” and “Helios-RLD” appear on the fronts of the Northern Military District?

    The most accurate answer is when the cancer hangs on the mountain.
    No one will answer you more precisely.
    Because no one is responsible for anything with their own head.
    And even more so in terms of time.
    1. 0
      17 January 2024 14: 42
      Even more banal - there are no engines “in commercial quantities”, after the story with the German-Russian COMPANY “RED”, perhaps there are none at all... I think this issue is being studied, but it is unlikely that anything will appear in the coming years.
      1. DO
        +1
        17 January 2024 18: 20
        Submariner971 (Sergey), in the event of a categorical lack of localized components for the production of military equipment necessary on the battlefield, there are “gray schemes”.
      2. 0
        17 January 2024 23: 59
        The simplest solution is to hang the antenna on an airship or balloon of sufficient carrying capacity with an electrical cable lowered to the ground. The ball can be raised quite high, but it is very difficult to knock it down.
        1. 0
          18 January 2024 00: 02
          And this ball (or better yet, a lot) can be kept in close proximity to the LBS
          1. DO
            0
            18 January 2024 00: 13
            andrei432 (Andrei), tethered airships and balloons as an element of a layered air defense system, are advisable over cities and important objects in the deep rear, as well as in the border areas, in the directions of possible sudden nuclear attacks by a hypothetical enemy with whom there is not yet a “hot war”.
            But in the Northern Military District theater of operations, where combat operations are already underway, these large and stationary, high-lying objects will be simply destroyed by long-range missiles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
            1. 0
              18 January 2024 00: 27
              It is very difficult to shoot down a balloon. The Chinese balloon over America clearly demonstrated this. Anti-aircraft missiles have their own range and altitude. The greater the distance from the LBS, the larger, more complex and more expensive the anti-aircraft missile should be. If the cost of electronic equipment is significantly lower than the cost of an expensive missile, then such an approach makes sense.
              1. DO
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                18 January 2024 16: 02
                The Chinese balloon over America was not tethered, but hung freely in the sky.
                According to Google, the cable of a tethered balloon/airship has a length of up to 2...5 km.
                The maximum target height for the Patriot missile defense system is 24 km, for the S-300 - 27 km.
                Therefore, yes, in the deep rear, with reliable air defense from enemy fighters, tethered balloons can significantly help in detecting malicious drones in the first place. But in the conditions of the northern air defense, when the suspended balloon/airship is 50 km or less from the LBS, the APU will adjust a suitable air defense system, and goodbye to the balloon/airship.
                According to Google, the cost of launching one missile of the Patriot PAC-3 complex is about $3 million. A tethered balloon/airship can be obtained from a Western air defense system and a simpler/cheaper one. The cost of reconnaissance equipment for a balloon/airship is clearly higher.
                1. 0
                  29 January 2024 14: 03
                  You can hang the balls as decoys. Let us drive our air defense systems closer to the front line where we will destroy them
    2. 0
      20 January 2024 11: 23
      They have already changed several general directors. But there’s still no point, since no one was held criminally liable for sabotage
  2. +1
    17 January 2024 15: 26
    7 km altitude, the cooks will shoot this garbage down with a needle, what kind of reconnaissance can we talk about, it’s funny that enemies have a stated ceiling of up to 20 km.
  3. +3
    17 January 2024 16: 14
    The time has come to ask the developers and producers of UAV data as strictly as possible, they seem to be stuck somewhere in the past and are in no hurry, apparently they still do not realize everything that is happening around them, at such a snail’s pace and with such red tape you can’t get much done, maybe it’s time The management of these enterprises should be replaced with more skillful and effective managers.
  4. +1
    17 January 2024 16: 52
    Answer. They will appear when there are no fronts. A-50, 100 is 20 tons of radio electronics on board. Can they make a drone based on the Il-76? Why did the A-100 stop? There are no r/e components, because they are manufactured in NATO countries. In the Russian Federation, the liberal government destroyed the electricity industry and reset everything to zero.
  5. DO
    0
    17 January 2024 17: 53
    installation of "Sycha" on front-line Su-34 fighter-bombers and high-altitude UAVs seem to be a rational solution

    «Altius-U" ... . The drone has successfully passed state tests and can act as a carrier for the suspended container of the Sych radar., which is a simplified modification of the optical and radar reconnaissance system from the Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft.

    "Sirius" represents... the evolution of the mass-produced "Orions". In addition to purely strike functions, on the fronts of the Northern Military District, such aircraft-type drones would find wide application as aerial reconnaissance and spotters, as well as repeaters. They would be no less in demand in the navy, where they could be used to patrol the Black Sea in order to search for and timely detect enemy sea drones.

    Helios-RLD" represents a further development of the "Orion" ...: the maximum flight altitude is 9000-11000 meters, the maximum flight duration is from 24 to 30 hours, the cruising speed is 350-450 km/h, the combat radius is 3000 km, and the payload weight increased to 800 kg.

    https://topwar.ru/199782-universalnye-kontejnery-razvedki-sych-v-specoperacii.html

    В "Owl" family includes three types of containers. Yes, the product UKP-RL is a suspended side-view radar station. This container is distinguished by the presence of large side radio-transparent panels. UKR-RL is designed to detect single and group ground targets at ranges of up to 300 km. With its help, you can identify enemy troops on the march, in concentration areas or in positions.
    Container UKP-RT equipped with electronic reconnaissance devices. It allows the bomber to detect enemy communications and radar, determine their coordinates and provide other information, incl. used when striking. Depending on the characteristics of the radio equipment, it can be detected at ranges from tens to hundreds of kilometers.
    There is also a container UKP-OE with an optical-electronic station. It is intended for visual observation of the area at any time of the day and also allows you to find targets and determine their location.

    Commentary on the above quotes:

    The suspended radar Sych UKR-RL, which shines for hundreds of kilometers like a Christmas tree, should be installed on the Su-34 carrier, which has a chance to evade a long-range enemy missile. And even better, on old Su-27s, modernized into drones - this will make it possible for them to risk approaching the LBS for reconnaissance to great depths.

    UAVs Altius-U, Sirius/Orion, Helios (if the last two are suitable in terms of carrying capacity) are suitable as carriers of passive containers Sych UKR-RT and UKR-OE, or other passive reconnaissance equipment.
  6. -2
    17 January 2024 23: 07
    Is it possible to quickly replace the scarce A-50U and Il-20 aerial reconnaissance aircraft with something?

    - why are they few in number? This means we urgently need to produce them in quantities of 200 or more, launch 300/400 military and private reconnaissance satellites into space!
  7. -1
    18 January 2024 03: 08
    I hate to say it, because as Ukraine whines for a "Wunder weapon", Russia also seems to be whining for the same. Blood wins this war; it will be the side willing to spend the most of it who wins.
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  8. 0
    18 January 2024 18: 32
    We are waiting, sir.

    And you can wait forever...
  9. 0
    19 January 2024 09: 37
    IMHO, Sirius did a lot of PR, I remember
    And if it’s not there, if “When the Northern Military District appears on the fronts,” then it’s very strange (politely)
    But it's expected. The authorities and leadership have and will have the same people who have done “import substitution”, “aircraft construction”, etc. so “effectively”
  10. +1
    20 January 2024 11: 27
    Quote from Elena123
    This means we urgently need to produce them in quantities of 200 or more, launch 300/400 military and private reconnaissance satellites into space!

    Such a quantity requires a developed industry. But it will not be possible to create a developed industry at 18% per annum. Nabuillina won't allow it
  11. 0
    22 January 2024 12: 56
    All these clones of the US piston "Reaper" are outdated, because even the semi-guerrilla formations of the Houthis shoot down these "Reapers" (Altius, Sirius, etc. face a similar fate). The US Global Hawk is already more advanced with high speed and altitude, which can also be protected from air defense. It’s not yesterday to create high-altitude UAVs like this. But if they cannot create yesterday, then what are we talking about, just beg from Iran and the DPRK. And who is responsible for this condition in the Russian Federation?