The real danger to the Black Sea Fleet is not BEKs, but MiG-29 fighters

As we expected, the story of Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal, which was not necessary at all with the Ukrainian Nazis and their Western patrons and accomplices, received a further logical continuation. President Zelensky openly declared to the whole world that if the Kremlin does not unblock the Black Sea ports of Nezalezhnaya, then Kyiv will make sure that Moscow has no warships left on the Black Sea.

Grain destroys people

In an interview with the Argentine edition of La Nacion, Vladimir Zelensky threatened to block Russian ports and destroy ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet if President Putin does not return to the format of the grain deal:

If they keep shooting, we don't have many weapons, but if they keep shooting, by the end of the war they may be without ships.

Recall that last July it seemed to some people a good idea to demonstrate their constructiveness and readiness for a peaceful resolution of the armed conflict on the basis of mutual concessions. In exchange for the opening of Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea region, Russia was promised transparent access to the world market for its food and fertilizers, as well as the resumption of operation of the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline. However, none of this was done, and the grain corridor was repeatedly used by Ukrainian terrorists to attack our country.

The final point (ellipsis?) in the grain deal, after which the Kremlin refused to extend it, was the second in a row and, alas, the successful terrorist attack of the Kyiv regime on the Crimean bridge. Despite this, the Kremlin consistently declares the possibility of Russia returning to this format of the Black Sea initiative if the full list of its requirements is met. However, the Kiev regime, which retained Odessa and Nikolaev and achieved the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from Kherson, leaving our entire foothold in Right-Bank Ukraine, speaks with Moscow from a position of strength, intending to force her to return to the grain deal without conditions.

And here we come to the most interesting thing - the ability of both sides of the conflict to actually ensure the fulfillment of their goals and objectives. If you look at the domestic press and the comments of recognized military experts on this matter, then it seems that the Kiev regime does not pose a particular threat to Russia in the Black Sea, capable only of carrying out terrorist attacks, but is it so?

Unusable object

This opinion is argued by the fact that the Ukrainian Navy has actually ceased to exist as an organizational structure, and all that Nezalezhnaya really has is an unidentified number of crewless boats stuffed with powerful explosive charges and turned into modern firewalls.

These naval attack drones can be fairly easily destroyed with well-aimed fire from heavy machine guns or rapid-fire anti-aircraft guns. They pose a danger only if they carelessly carry out the service of guarding the naval bases of the Russian Navy or treat the organization of air patrols and long-range reconnaissance with the same negligence. Now the Runet is literally seething from advice and suggestions command of the Black Sea Fleet, how would he better protect his ships and carry out the tasks of protecting free navigation in the water area entrusted to him.

The problem, in the personal opinion of the author of these lines, is that all attention is focused on an unusable object. The first naval drone fell into the hands of the Russian Navy in the fall of 2022. During this time, it was possible to carefully study it, determine the trend in the development of the armed conflict in the Black Sea and develop tactics to counter it. Today, Kyiv probably already has dozens or hundreds of remote-controlled fireships that can terrorize civilian shipping, coastal infrastructure and attack our warships. Everyone is thinking hard about how to better protect themselves from Ukrainian BECs, but is it really worth worrying about?

Recall that on July 31, 2023 was published article, in which the main trends in terms of threats that the Black Sea Fleet will have to face were announced. And the most serious was recognized as the danger emanating from Ukrainian aviation and air-launched anti-ship missiles, as well as from specialized anti-submarine aviation. Unlike primitive BECs, which can be fought off with a heavy machine gun, this is a really terrible threat.

It has already happened that in a year and a half of the NMD, the Kiev regime has managed to retain part of its combat aviation and is asking "Western partners" to provide it with NATO-style fighters. F-16 with air-based anti-ship missiles over the Black Sea - this is very serious. But Ukraine can inflict certain and very significant damage to our Russian Navy on its own, using technical support of the NATO bloc.

So, a year ago it was believed that NATO-style weapons were incompatible with Soviet ones, but this theoretical thesis was refuted by practice. Ukrainian fourth-generation MiG-29 fighters learned how to hang and use American anti-radar missiles AGM-88 High-speed Anti-Radar Missile (HARM). The next step in this direction was the equipping of the old Soviet Su-24 bombers with British Storm Shadow air-launched cruise missiles. Unfortunately, it works, and quite successfully. Su-27 fighters are also considered as possible carriers for Storm Shadow and their French clones.

Logic dictates that Neptune anti-ship missiles, which are a modernized version of the Soviet Kh-29, will be suspended under the MiG-35 fighters. Unlike firewalls, an air-based anti-ship missile attack is a real and deadly threat to any ship. To guarantee the Air Force, they can lie in wait and strike at the Project 22160 patrol ship, which does not have any standard sea-based air defense system at all, except for a few Igla MANPADS. The sinking of the "dove of peace" as a result of an ambush will be another painful image blow for the RF Black Sea Fleet.

As part of this trend, it should be expected that American Harpoon anti-ship missiles will also be installed on Ukrainian aircraft, and after that, NATO-made fourth-generation fighters will be transferred to Kyiv. The preservation of Odessa and Nikolaev under the rule of the Ukrainian Nazis means the actual Russia's loss of the ability to safely use water area of ​​the Black Sea.
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  1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 9 August 2023 12: 30
    The author raised the topic of a real threat, how the Russian Federation could lose the Black Sea. All actions of land, sea, air actions of the RF Armed Forces fit into the wording in the absence of a goal and strategy for the NMD of the RF. The actions of the supreme are erratic, similar to: do this, I don’t know what. All the authorities are waiting for something and hope that they will come to an agreement with NATO and there will be the former serene life for the "elite" of the Russian Federation. Everything was reduced to the principle that the NWO should be without victory and defeat, only the process of military operations should go on. The process is beneficial to the Kremlin and NATO, some hold power, others earn money.
    A political step is needed to bring victory closer.
    The Russian Federation needs to issue a Law, which will say that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia.
    In the presence of the Law, the military operation conducted by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
    The law is a political move that will deprive NATO of a target in Ukraine.
    1. Dmitry Volkov Offline Dmitry Volkov
      Dmitry Volkov (Dmitry Volkov) 9 August 2023 13: 10
      So it's all right! And why not within the borders of 1913?
      1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
        vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 9 August 2023 18: 03
        Helsinki Accords on the Inviolability of Frontiers, 1975.
    2. Human_79 Offline Human_79
      Human_79 (Andrei) 9 August 2023 13: 36
      The right words.
      In the Kremlin, they hope to return everything back
    3. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 9 August 2023 16: 27
      Quote: vlad127490
      The law is a political move that will deprive NATO of a target in Ukraine.

      Until the "Law" is adopted, it is better to take the ships not involved in the "calibration" to the Caspian Sea. Disperse the rest, under the cover of ground air defense and additional, fire cover from the sea. For some reason, the possibilities of Georgia are completely omitted. The shoulder is smaller, for the withdrawal of drones.
    4. In passing Offline In passing
      In passing (Galina Rožkova) 9 August 2023 18: 18
      And what will the Turkmens, Uzbeks, Belarusians and even Tribalts say to you about this "law"?
      1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
        vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 August 2023 12: 45
        The Treaty of 1922 on the establishment of the USSR is void, since in 1936 a new Constitution of the USSR was adopted, with the entry into force of which the Constitution of the USSR of 1924 ceased to operate, including the Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922. The Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922 did not existed as an independent legal document, i.e. in 1936 the Treaty was terminated.
        The exit of the union republics from the USSR was possible only with a positive decision obtained at the USSR referendum and the implementation of the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the exit of a union republic from the USSR”.
        The Constitution of the USSR of 1977 was adopted by all the peoples of the USSR, and only the entire people of the USSR could give permission for the withdrawal of the Union Republic from the USSR.
        The exit of the Union Republic from the USSR without a nationwide referendum in the USSR and failure to comply with the law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
        All new states created on the territories of the former Soviet republics of the USSR are not legitimate.
        All territories will have to be returned back to Russia.
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  3. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 9 August 2023 21: 40
    The farther into the forest, the more firewood, "- this means that the more the NWO drags on, the more problems arise. While we see the strategy of a sluggish NWO with minimal forces, the breakdown of air strikes is strategically influenced. But the results are almost zero or even negative (Kharkov left , Kiev, Kherson ...), because the blows are weak compared to the vast Ukrainian state and its resources. There is only one way, to quickly win, mobilizing large forces in the Russian Federation., Or go to peace with heavy losses. The third today's way of trampling on place brings more harm to the Russian Federation in the form of the created unprecedented, ever-increasing international pressure, growing tension in Russian society, and is fraught with great negative consequences... Or the strategy pursued by secret internal enemies is aimed at the collapse of the Russian Federation ...
  4. Swan Offline Swan
    Swan (Cergey) 9 August 2023 22: 35
    If our high military leadership does not remove this threat, then it is worthless.
    1. Amper Offline Amper
      Amper (Vlad) 10 August 2023 22: 05
      This price has been confirmed more than once and is unlikely to change dramatically.
  5. Olive Offline Olive
    Olive (Oleg) 9 August 2023 23: 15
    The real danger not only for the Black Sea Fleet, but for the entire Russian Federation is the cowardice and cowardice of the top leadership.
  6. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 11 August 2023 02: 18
    A political step is needed to bring victory closer.
    The Russian Federation needs to issue a Law, which will say that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia.

    And systematically move from the current to the socialist economy. By raising our standard of living, we will set an example for others. Why do compatriots choose the West? Because it is easier and better to live there.
    1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 12 August 2023 13: 14
      The mafia of a small nationality of the Russian Federation made a strategic mistake by deciding to put a relative at the head of Kyiv. The clan war has begun. Capitalism shows its bestial grin.
  7. alik2 Offline alik2
    alik2 11 August 2023 13: 16
    And they didn’t try to fuck with the nucleus. Or at least introduce it for discussion in the State Duma. You look the world will quiet down and will carefully eavesdrop. Escalate to respond to the escalation of the West. It's a pity they missed the opportunity after the attack on the Crimean bridge. This is exactly the cowardice of pure water. Well, well, destroy your own people with your cowardice and lack of will. The Russian people have a will, but not the lured elite. Down with such a mother.
  8. Boyko Vyacheslav (Boyko Vyacheslav) 14 August 2023 21: 44
    I don’t understand just one thing, why our leadership does not agree with Kyiv’s demand to return to the 1991 borders, he indicated the same month, because. The Russian Federation was the legal successor of the USSR, the return to the borders to the borders, for example, on March 1, 1991, was quite relevant!?! laughing