Military Watch: It will be difficult for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to use Western tanks in battles against the Russian Armed Forces

January 15 2023 19

Western tanks, which have been talked about a lot lately, are unlikely to take part in the conflict in Ukraine. This was reported by the American edition of Military Watch, having studied the issue.

The article is about British tanks. Challenger 2 and German Leopard 2. Moreover, if London is ready for deliveries to Kyiv, then Berlin still did not give its consent.

In any case, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will face great difficulties if they are given such samples of heavy armored vehicles. Crew training is only a small “surface” part of a huge “iceberg” of problems. It only takes a little time to teach people how to drive tanks. But tanks still need to be serviced regularly, provided with fuel and lubricants and ammunition, preventive maintenance of equipment, and sometimes repaired. Who and how will carry out all this, and even in a conflict, is not entirely clear.

In addition, there are no automatic loaders (AZ) in Western tanks; the crews of these tracked vehicles must be formed of four people, so that one of them feeds shells. In Soviet-style tanks, this problem is solved, and there are crews of three. Thus, it will not only be necessary to train the crews to "drive and shoot", but to completely redo the entire tank training system, which will take much more time. Only after that it will be possible to start solving the above issues and, of course, all this time these tanks simply will not be able to appear on the front lines to participate in battles.

Moreover, these tanks are much larger (oversized) than their Soviet counterparts. They are taller and heavier, consume significantly more fuel and are much more capricious in maintenance. At the same time, not every bridge structure (we are talking about small structures) can withstand their weight, and the sluggishness and size will make it difficult to use in urban areas and on narrow roads. The provision of fuel and ammunition will be a serious challenge, as it will be required in large quantities, and all this will have to be delivered from Europe.

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Sergey Latyshev

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15 January 2023 18: 05

All stages of accepting the inevitable....
from "Ukraine will not receive either weapons or visa-free travel" sometime ...
to "it will be difficult to use Western tanks ...."
1. Just a cat
  
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  15 January 2023 20: 49
  
  In Oklahoma, the United States adopted a resolution demanding that Ukrainian military personnel not be allowed into the state for training
  
  The last thing we need is for them to mistakenly launch a rocket into Oklahoma.
  
  said local senator Nathan Dam, who registered the resolution.
  
  It was the Pentagon's response to the arrival of Ukrainian fighters next week to master the Patriot air defense system.
Goga Smirnovich

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15 January 2023 18: 21

this is all complete nonsense and the lulling of vigilance. In the same way they lulled the "vigilance" of the RF Armed Forces with fairy tales, how the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Kyiv will fall in 3-4 days. The West is just awesome at making people believe in their myths.
There are NO problems to train an additional 4th crew member - the loader. It will take nuuu 2 days, maybe, or maybe 2 hours. the loader, then the Ukrainian Peter, even more so, and he definitely won’t be dumber than a black man. After all, Ukrainians have no problems with either the feeder or the loader of howitzer shells on either Soviet or American howitzers.
For fuel and ammo is also nonsense. For self-propelled guns and howitzers, everything is already brought in sufficient quantities. There will be no problems with tank ammo either.
About the dimensions it’s generally ridiculous. The mobility of the tank determines the most basic criterion - the ratio of engine power to mass. On Western tanks it is good. As strange as it is to declare for bridges, which are already almost all destroyed. There are other ways and engineering troops to overcome water barriers.
1. Just a cat
  
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  15 January 2023 19: 59
  
  what about the Ukrainian counterparts of Alexandre Dumas and Alexander Pushkin? this is a word about comparing intellects with blacks.
2. Rust1981
  
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  16 January 2023 12: 23
  
  Quote: Goga Smirnovich
  this is all complete nonsense and the lulling of vigilance. In the same way they lulled the "vigilance" of the RF Armed Forces with fairy tales, how the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Kyiv will fall in 3-4 days. The West is just awesome at making people believe in their myths.
  There are NO problems to train an additional 4th crew member - the loader. It will take nuuu 2 days, maybe, or maybe 2 hours. the loader, then the Ukrainian Peter, even more so, and he definitely won’t be dumber than a black man. After all, Ukrainians have no problems with either the feeder or the loader of howitzer shells on either Soviet or American howitzers.
  For fuel and ammo is also nonsense. For self-propelled guns and howitzers, everything is already brought in sufficient quantities. There will be no problems with tank ammo either.
  About the dimensions it’s generally ridiculous. The mobility of the tank determines the most basic criterion - the ratio of engine power to mass. On Western tanks it is good. As strange as it is to declare for bridges, which are already almost all destroyed. There are other ways and engineering troops to overcome water barriers.
  
  That's it!
  The patriots have already got cheers in the comments of each news. Simply impenetrable... Who do we consider unteachable? Only iiiots. Almost a year has already passed, so many rakes have been passed, and we are not leaving about frozen Europe and about our own. It's time to just stop spouting propaganda nonsense and just start working. Do your job well.
  
  Supplying Ukraine with pontoons is an easier task than supplying a bunch of tanks. Those who will supply tanks were also not born yesterday - they probably know what they are doing. Unexpected right? And then we are accustomed to consider ourselves smart, and their poor. Underestimating the enemy is a step towards defeat.
  
  And by the way, blacks are not dumber than whites. And then for some it’s just some kind of axiom.
  1. Daniel K
    
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    21 January 2023 20: 15
    
    However, there were no Nobel laureates in the sciences of blacks.
mark1

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15 January 2023 20: 59

the crews of these tracked vehicles must be formed from four people,

No problem - the Negro-loader, in the configuration for Ukraine, will be included in the standard spare parts kit
Goga Smirnovich

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16 January 2023 02: 06

Quote: Just Cat
what about the Ukrainian counterparts of Alexandre Dumas and Alexander Pushkin? this is a word about comparing intellects with blacks.

L.Ukrainka and T.Shevchenko - this is more than enough
1. Just a cat
  
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  16 January 2023 04: 43
  
  a hut made of straw and clay after the end of the NWO is more than enough.
2. instrument
  
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  17 January 2023 07: 15
  
  Zelya shared the path or is he so smart from birth?
AlexVas44

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16 January 2023 07: 21

Quote: Goga Smirnovich
in terms of dimensions, they allow you to plant a healthier loader, and if the black-hull loader is freely placed there, then the Ukrainian Petro

Precisely, Petro Poroshenko is just that big guy: 180 cm, 94 kg, a candidate for MS - for his first tank!
Goga Smirnovich

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16 January 2023 13: 18

Quote: Just Cat
a hut made of straw and clay after the end of the NWO is more than enough.

There, the dude above wrote his opinion about underestimation. I agree with her. This is one of the reasons why the Russian Federation loses even to impoverished Ukraine. Throw hats on and on!
1. The Enchanted Wanderer
  
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  16 January 2023 15: 41
  
  And Russia is losing? And how long?!
  1. instrument
    
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    17 January 2023 07: 18
    
    no need to enter into an argument with the schiry, only humiliate yourself.
  2. Daniel K
    
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    21 January 2023 20: 16
    
    For almost six months now
2. Ilya Zyuzin
  
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  17 January 2023 11: 18
  
  Russia is not losing, but the change of tactics due to the massive support of the West and intelligence miscalculations is obvious. Nothing, everything is for the benefit of the army in the long run. I only feel sorry for the guys who died because of the stupidity of the generals.
Igor Viktorovich Berdin

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16 January 2023 16: 54

Yes, let them supply it. By and large, it’s like a carrot for a donkey. It seems to help, but the current will be zero .... What is 10-50-100-200 tanks. For 10 days of fighting ... And Russia is gaining experience. Yes, and trophies will be with the military developments of the West.
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blackcat190463

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17 January 2023 15: 35

You forget that tanks can already come with a Polish crew or something else, there are already a lot of mercenaries, and there will be even more and that's a fact
shinobi

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21 January 2023 10: 48

An open conflict with NATO, indirectly, it is already underway, a matter of pure time. The 1980 war games showed that a limited (including with the use of nuclear weapons) war in the European theater (in a single country), having exhausted local resources, very quickly develops into a full-scale world war .Local (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, everyone who is nearby) NATO troops will officially enter Western Ukraine in the spring. This is due to the fact that, in fact, little depends on the Armed Forces of Ukraine.