Sources: Georgia to build 50 Su-25 attack aircraft for the Turks


In social networks and the media, controversy has flared up that the Turkish army can get into service with 50 modernized Su-25 attack aircraft, moreover, Tbilisi will build them for Ankara. At the same time, the sources indicated both the positive aspects of the mentioned idea and the negative ones.


Proponents of the idea point out directly that the improved versions of the Soviet Su-25 are the best examples of manned attack aircraft in the world today. In addition, the United States refused to sell its A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircraft to its NATO ally, which angered Turkey, whose leadership has repeatedly said that it does not matter who to buy weapons from to strengthen the country's defenses.

They recalled that Georgia was able to to carry out modernization of the Su-25 at its disposal at the Tbilisi Aviation Plant (TAM), which at one time produced about 900 units of similar aircraft of different versions, although many skeptics considered this impossible. In addition, the Turks already have a positive experience of military-technical cooperation with the Georgians - at the end of 2020, Ankara provided Tbilisi with a grant of 100 million lira ($ 17,5 million) for the purchase of military goods and services, as well as the renovation of the airfield in Marneuli (at the border Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan).

The arguments of the opponents of the idea are no less numerous. They drew attention to the fact that Turkey's military doctrine presupposes the use of a wide range of drones, which are produced by the Turkish military-industrial complex, as an assault aircraft, as well as ammunition for them. Experts have no doubt that the modernized Su-25 are excellent aircraft, but they are outdated, their cost and maintenance are more expensive, casualties are possible and attack aircraft will be produced in another country, which is bad for the Turkish defense industry.

Moreover, one can only talk about the purchase of new aircraft, and not repaired by the "cannibalism" method or modernized with the participation of firms from Israel. Moscow will not provide the components to Tbilisi, and Ankara certainly does not need such "products", even if the issue of using Turkish ammunition is resolved. At the same time, modern Turkish drones have proven themselves well, participating in conflicts in Syria, Libya and especially in Nagorno-Karabakh, and now they lit up also in the Donbass. Therefore, it is impractical to rebuild the military aviation component.

There are no official comments on this discussion from the Russian, Turkish and Georgian sides.
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  1. Orange bigg Offline Orange bigg
    Orange bigg (Alexander ) 31 October 2021 15: 15
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    In social networks and the media, controversy has flared up that the Turkish army can get into service with 50 modernized Su-25 attack aircraft, moreover, Tbilisi will build them for Ankara.

    Two in one. It will modernize and build at the same time. How is it? Most likely it will modernize from the available ones, and that is probably with the help of Israel. Project Scorpio. Engines for the Su-25 were produced only in Russia, so it is unlikely that we are talking about the construction of new Su-25. Just Tbilissky. the aircraft plant also offers ordinary Su-25s for sale. The plant now has 30 machines ready for sale and 20 in various stages of production. It all fits together.

    The Su-25KM "Scorpion" is a modernized version of the Soviet Su-25 attack aircraft. The aircraft is produced by the Georgian company TAM (Tbilaviamsheni - Tblis aircraft plant) together with the Israeli company Elbit Systems Ltd. (NASDAQ: ESLT).

    Work on the modernization project for the Su-25 "Scorpion" began in September 2000. On April 14, 2001, the chief pilot of Elbit Systems, Ehuda Shafir, took off the first modernized Su-25 "Scorpion". The first official flight took place from the airfield of the Tbilisi Aircraft Plant on April 18, 2001. The ceremony was attended by the President of Georgia Eduard Shevardnadze, members of the government, representatives of the Georgian Defense Ministry, Tbilisi Aircraft Plant and Elbit company.

    The Scorpion modernization program envisages equipping the Su-25 attack aircraft with a new avionics complex in accordance with the glass cocpit technology and meeting the ICAO requirements, developed by the Israeli firm Elbit. The new avionics significantly expands the capabilities of the aircraft, ensures all-weather use, improves flight safety, and provides accurate navigation and target designation for weapons. The complex is designed to use both Western and Russian weapons. The Scorpion modernization program raises the Su-25's combat capability to a modern level and fully meets the needs of potential customers. Su-25 "Scorpion" was shown at the international air show in Le Bourget in 2001.

    The avionics complex is based on modular multipurpose computers from Elbit, connected by two 1553B data exchange buses. The cockpit of an ordinary Su-25 has undergone a radical reconstruction. Most of the analog instruments have been replaced by two 6 "x 8" multifunction color LCD displays. The HOTAS (Hands-On-Throttle-And-Stick) system was installed, which allows the pilot to perform many operations without removing his hands from the aircraft and engine control sticks. The old windshield display system has been replaced with a new one with a front control panel. The complex includes a new navigation system operating in both GPS and inertial modes. Navigation information is shown on the color display in moving map mode. This is the first application of the Elbit navigation system on airplanes. The Su-25 has two new radios, UHF and VHF, providing eavesdropping-proof communications. The equipment set also includes a helmet-mounted target designation system DASH, also developed by Elbit. From the previous equipment left: a radar altimeter, fuel sensors and a laser rangefinder-target designator "Klen".

    Although this is a demonstration program, and the composition of the complex can be changed, it is intended for the modernization of aircraft of the Georgian Air Force. According to Jane's, the Georgian Air Force by the beginning of 2007 was armed with six Su-25s and one Su-25UB. The commander of the Georgian Air Force, Lieutenant General Valeriy Nakopia, said that the Air Force is very interested in modernizing the Su-25 under the Scorpion program and will continue to closely cooperate with the Israeli firm Elbit.

    The Tbilisi aircraft plant also offers ordinary Su-25s for sale. The plant now has 30 machines ready for sale and 20 in various stages of production. The director of the aircraft plant Pantico Tordia said that last year the plant sold 4 Su-25s, this year it is close to signing a contract for the sale of 12 aircraft to a new customer and he very much hopes to sell Rossi 13 Su-25Ts.

    http://www.airwar.ru/enc/attack/su25km.html
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 31 October 2021 20: 15
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      What can I say here? Well done Georgians, within the framework of their modest capabilities, they made the most of everything they could and got a decent result. good I am not an aviation specialist and I cannot judge how good the modernized Su-25s are and whether the Turks need them, but in any case, these aircraft will find buyers in Asia, Africa or South America.
  2. Obama Barack Offline Obama Barack
    Obama Barack (Obama Barack) 31 October 2021 16: 27
    +3
    Rodents have lost their technology, they can only supply wine, under the brand name "Minastsali")
    1. And the shashlik "Minastsrali" too?
      1. Obama Barack Offline Obama Barack
        Obama Barack (Obama Barack) 31 October 2021 20: 06
        0
        No ties. Do not ask.)
  3. AICO Offline AICO
    AICO (Vyacheslav) 31 October 2021 19: 51
    +1
    The steering wheel and engine from "Colchis" and downhill with tangerines !!! Sorry sovramshi - she has a Zilovsky engine, so she will wave one wheel!
  4. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 1 November 2021 00: 01
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    The Georgians have no one to do stormtroopers and there is nothing and nothing. Israeli IAI stuffed scorpions from the Soviet reserve at the plant. And that's all, absolutely everything. What nafig are there ready-made and in the stages of manufacturing? Gentlemen, can you imagine an aircraft factory that has not produced a single car from scratch in 30 years? And from what? Do you think you can produce all the components of an aircraft at one plant, seriously? To recruit and train the workers and engineers who have gone "for bread" for 30 years? Are they clapping their hands to Georgians naive?
    1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
      DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 1 November 2021 03: 51
      +1
      Reasonable explanation. Most likely, sheep graze on the territory of this plant. And it is right. No one will bomb the sheep pastures. Georgians, do not repeat the mistakes of your sheep.
  5. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 1 November 2021 00: 27
    +4
    I really want to see how Georgians will build Su 25, and the Turks will fly on it.
    In life, there is always a place for a feat!
  6. TermNachTer Offline TermNachTer
    TermNachTer (Nikolai) 1 November 2021 12: 42
    +2
    Where will Georgians get 100 engines?))) Moscow will definitely not sell them. You can't take extra engines in Banderland either, there is not enough for your "litakiv")))
  7. Tungsten Molybdenum (Tungsten Molybdenum) 1 November 2021 17: 14
    +1
    Will he buy titanium engines from Russia?
    1. AICO Offline AICO
      AICO (Vyacheslav) 1 November 2021 19: 05
      +2
      If only knives and machines for conservation - they will roll their lips over the banks !!!
  8. Muhambek Offline Muhambek
    Muhambek (Muhambek) 4 December 2021 08: 32
    0
    It's one thing to modernize, it's another to release ... Especially the Sukhoi brand. Sued)))
  9. viktortarianik Offline viktortarianik
    viktortarianik (Victor) 10 December 2021 08: 22
    0
    Build new Su-25s - no. Upgrade - yes. How deep and high-quality modernization is is a question.