Why small arms are recognized as the main means of anti-drone defense

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The dominance of Ukrainian strike drones on the front line requires a prompt solution to this extremely urgent problem in the Northwestern Military District zone. A simple and reliable short-range air defense system is needed both to cover armored vehicles and stationary positions of the Russian Armed Forces, and to individually protect individual military personnel.

Impact quadcopters that use APUs are divided into two main types: these are disposable “kamikaze” drones controlled by an operator using an FPV scheme, and reusable “droppers” created on the basis of Chinese civilian “Maviks” and heavy agricultural drones. In the capable hands of Ukrainian gamer-killers, they pose an extreme danger to the assault units of the Russian army.



Как tell military correspondents and military experts who have returned from the front line, in the most “drone-dangerous” directions, where the counter-offensive of the Russian Armed Forces is now developing, the buzzing of the propellers of enemy drones, attack drones and observer-spotters is continuously heard in the sky. Because of this, our positions near the LBS are as sparse as possible, and we have to operate in small assault groups. Soldiers have to carry out supplies on the front line literally on themselves, since they have to adjust machinery in such conditions it is very dangerous for herself.

The current Russian air defense and electronic warfare systems can no longer provide reliable protection against this “trifle”, which is cheap but deadly. Spending expensive ammunition from anti-aircraft systems against FPV drones costing 40 thousand rubles apiece means losing economically in the arms race. The effectiveness of numerous electronic warfare systems decreases after the appearance of drones in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, controlled from a satellite or using elements of artificial intelligence that do not require communication with an operator.

As a matter of fact, this is precisely what explains the attention that Russian Defense Minister Shoigu has recently begun to devote to the topic of robotics that previously seemed exotic. Having recently examined promising samples of Russian ground-based drones, Sergei Kuzhugetovich demanded that a medical evacuation drone be immediately put into mass production:

The wait for the car is incredible. She should leave for the group in the coming days and start working. There is nothing more valuable than human life. Today we need to ensure the evacuation of the wounded from the front line. Do this as safely as possible, as quickly as possible. We need to try it at the front and launch it into production immediately.

Also, cautious optimism is caused by the decision of the Russian Ministry of Defense to create a specialized center that will unite all developments in this area:

Army General Sergei Shoigu said that the Russian Ministry of Defense has decided to create a research and production center for unmanned aerial vehicles and robotic systems.

Until June 1, 2024, training and tactical fields will be created at all training grounds of the Russian Armed Forces to practice skills in combating drones using promising models of small arms, the country’s defense department reports:

Army General Sergei Shoigu set the task of providing assault groups with these types of weapons to effectively destroy enemy fpv drones.

In general, in fact, at the moment, hand-held small arms are recognized as the main means of anti-drone protection for our assault units on the front line. Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Colonel General Yunus-Bek Evkurov reported to the head of the defense department that within a month instructors will be trained who will subsequently begin working directly with the troops:

All military personnel undergoing training at the training ground will practice counter-drone tasks.

Semi-automatic small arms, developed with the participation of snipers, will be used to equip aerial surveillance posts, and their versions with a shortened barrel will be used by assault teams as a second, additional weapon.

In addition, in the Telegram channel “Voenkor Astrakhan” you can watch video recording with an interview with a Russian soldier from the engineering troops, who began to use the Vepr-12 smooth-bore carbines, created on the basis of the Kalashnikov machine gun. The group fighting Ukrainian UAVs consists of two people: one holds the drone using a special anti-drone electronic warfare gun, and the second destroys it with a shotgun.

The 12x76 mm Vepr, handed over to Russian military personnel, is equipped with a folding stock with a comfortable cheek pad and an elongated barrel, which increases accuracy and lethal force, as well as a 10-round magazine and a Picatinny rail, which allows the installation of a collimator and a thermal imaging sight. In addition to enemy quadcopters, the Hammer can be used to destroy various types of mines.

I would like to remind you that we first publicly voiced the idea of ​​using automatic shotguns as a means of individual anti-drone protection for attack aircraft on the front line back in ARTICLES dated December 20, 2023. In January 2024, defending it, I had to join correspondence polemics with the Rogozin family, emphasizing the need to create special training grounds for training military personnel to hunt moving air targets.

Whether it’s good or bad, in the end we came to this. However, are there better solutions to the anti-drone problem?
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  1. 0
    April 22 2024 16: 48
    The boar is a very heavy thing, and shooting it offhand is a pleasure. I have one myself. And if you have a 700 barrel, it’s complete darkness. In addition, ordinary buckshot is effective at 50 meters, and I would personally think about shooting it at a drone with, say, a suspended RPG shot...
  2. +1
    April 22 2024 16: 54
    In my opinion, the following would be optimal. First of all, Murka is better. It's much more convenient offhand. And load with different cartridges. For example, the first one is in a container that opens to a hundred meters. These are on sale. Next - at 70. Then - the usual at 50. Well, and lastly - just buckshot without a container. Thus, when shooting, you can create a field of grapeshot at different distances, at least something will hit..

    If you screw an extended magazine onto Murka, you will get two cartridges of each type one after the other. It seems to me that the probability of being shot down in this situation will be significantly higher..
    1. 0
      April 22 2024 21: 43
      per duck,000 per eye
  3. 0
    April 22 2024 17: 22
    Ideally, of course, the best thing is of course something like a small-caliber 20-25 mm cannon with a projectile with an automatically programmed detonation, a laser distance meter and a computer. It is unlikely that our effective managers will quickly master this, although similar systems already exist on Pantsir, but their caliber is larger. A 5,56 caliber multi-barreled machine gun would be suitable. And the “shotgun” is doubtful: the range is short. It takes nerves of iron to get within range of fire.
  4. +2
    April 22 2024 19: 17
    Shrapnel or shot are all good against low-flying drones. But the main problem, the destruction of high-altitude loitering drones, which are the eyes of artillery, shrapnel does not solve. Shooting down such targets with Buks is simply ridiculous; it’s literally their guns shooting at sparrows. There is only one way out, laser or microwave weapons. They may say that its effectiveness decreases during rain or fog. But the effectiveness of high-altitude drones also decreases in such weather. Beam weapons will be key in the fight against drones
    1. +1
      April 22 2024 22: 41
      I beg to differ with the respected chief of counterintelligence.
      Unfortunately, the spectacular effect of laser and microwave weapons
      is a common myth. The laser emitter has a very
      low efficiency due to low pumping efficiency. In addition, laser
      the emitter requires water cooling, a breakthrough of electricity and
      cumbersome focusing and targeting system, which makes
      laser weapons are only acceptable in works of science fiction.
      As for "microwave" weapons, this is generally absurd, since
      The geometric dimensions of the drone are comparable to the wavelength of “microwaves”.
      Due to the phenomenon of diffraction, microwaves will mainly bend around the contours
      goals. Add to this the need to use a huge parabolic
      antennas to provide highly directional radiation.
      The only and absolutely effective way to combat enemy
      drones, in my opinion, is causing radio interference to communication channels
      drone - drone operator. A drone over a target is extremely susceptible to
      influence of radio interference emitted by a target or source of interference located
      not far from the target. This is facilitated by the short distance between the drone and the target
      and direct visibility between them. Powerful source of pulsed radio interference
      near the target can be broadband and disrupt communications in all possible
      radio wave ranges.
      There’s one thing I can’t understand: why doesn’t this method of fighting drones work?
      would not occur to our respected Minister of Defense and President?
      They seem to be educated people, who also have a bunch of advisors, the Academy
      Sciences, finally.
      1. 0
        April 23 2024 02: 04
        ...However, are there more effective solutions to the anti-drone problem?

        ...Powerful source of pulsed radio interference
        near the target can be broadband and disrupt communications in all possible
        radio wave ranges.
        There’s one thing I can’t understand: why doesn’t this method of fighting drones work?
        would not occur to our respected Minister of Defense and President?
        They seem to be educated people, who also have a bunch of advisors, the Academy
        Science, finally.

        I agree with the author.
        Direction finding of drones is a separate task. I suggested acoustic methods. They are more efficient compared to electromagnetic ones.
        Defeat the detected drone.
        He also spoke about a machine gun equipped with shot cartridges. Many idiots laughed, but champions in shooting drones from hunting rifles have already appeared on the front line...
        The task is to propose an effective method (methods) to destroy or disable a drone or a swarm of drones.
        At least I have a few ideas related to a special design of ammunition intended for this purpose. Open publication, for obvious reasons, is unacceptable. But I don’t know how to convey information to specialists who can implement these ideas. I don't want to patent it. I already have about hundreds of inventions.
      2. +1
        April 23 2024 09: 55
        Actually, in our industry there are installations for cutting sheet metal with a laser beam. They cut with a beam because there is no need for finishing the edge in the future. It is clear that the installation is energy-intensive and cumbersome. However, this principle of protection would be quite suitable for protecting stationary objects. Moreover, it is not necessary to cut the drone. Enough to dazzle.
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          April 23 2024 21: 45
          To "blind", you need to point the beam at the "pupil" of the camera. Have you seen what kind of “pupil” they have? At a distance of 100 meters, even an optical sight will not help you. I’m not talking about the fact that even a sober person’s hands always, barely noticeably, tremble. Because the heart beats. Only the dead have hands that don't tremble.
          1. +1
            April 23 2024 23: 36
            The energy flow in the laser beam is high and it is not necessary to focus it with a diameter of 1 mm. You can make a spot of 1 meter at a distance of 1-2 km. All the same, the photomatrix will be clogged or even damaged. No wonder they are not allowed to point the camera at the sun.
            1. +1
              April 24 2024 08: 59
              I see that we are different people. And, in general, our meeting was a mistake. Apparently, the “green agenda” has completely turned your head.
              Now try cutting down drones with wind generator blades.
              Warm greetings and see you “upstairs”.
              At Kudasov's!
  5. 0
    April 22 2024 19: 56
    ...However, are there more effective solutions to the anti-drone problem?...

    - There is. It is necessary to simultaneously develop electronic warfare and means of destroying drones, but we must not forget about the source of the signal to the drone. In short, you need to wet, if not the operators themselves, then the antennas.
  6. +1
    April 22 2024 20: 14
    To the title question:

    Why small arms are recognized as the main means of anti-drone defense

    The answer was given weakly... Except for the answer: “Shoigu ordered so”
    It simply describes what is being done to prepare for the protection of drugs themselves.
    Like the famous one:

    The rescue of drowning people is the business of drowning themselves
  7. +1
    April 24 2024 08: 30
    There are shooting nets, they are cheap and reliable. They were tested against drones on YouTube, watched the video
  8. 0
    1 May 2024 01: 35
    How did Maxim appear? Thanks to the metal unified cartridge case. The same with anti-drone weapons, develop grapeshot ammunition that has the energy to damage drones and build a bullet stick around it using modern artificial polymer materials to lighten its weight. Consider various ammunition, ranging from machine gun, hunting and under-barrel grenade launchers. Or maybe someone will come up with something more original. The bicycle has been invented for a long time.
  9. 0
    Yesterday, 22: 01
    It is quite reasonable to turn again to the experience of the Second World War.
    When our inevitably advancing units of the Soviet army, on the eve of the end of the Second World War, encountered, especially during assaults on cities, such an unpleasant anti-tank weapon as the Faustpatron, our tanks began to be overgrown with various homemade homemade mesh screens (something reminiscent), which in general are at least They neutralized this infection... But after some time they (which turned the combat vehicle into a rattling barn) were almost completely abandoned...
    Reason:: a change in the tactics of using tanks when storming cities and in the weapons of an infantryman...
    Tanks began to be used intelligently together with infantry groups (tank paratroopers).
    Here's an interesting point.
    ...The front-line soldiers who fought as part of these tank landings recalled that experienced soldiers shot (offhand) a flying grenade from a faustpatron literally like a duck...
    Indeed, with the concentrated fire of several experienced shooters and the rate of fire of a “small machine gun” (as the Germans spoke respectfully of “PAPASH”) from 900 rounds per minute (from 15 per second) - this is quite realistic...
    As a result of the accumulation of combat experience, and the experience of coordinated interaction between the tank and the landing force assigned to it, the effectiveness of such a fight against the Faustians increased so much that tanks were no longer dressed (wrapped) in bulky, unsightly mesh screens that complicate the visibility and maneuverability of the vehicle...

    Maybe instead of heavy and bulky automatic shotguns, it makes sense to use submachine guns with a high rate of fire.
    (It is quite possible that the good old PPSh, which are probably still stored in warehouses? The Americans did not hesitate to use it in special operations in Iraq.)
    They are both lighter and more convenient than a shotgun... And they have much wider combat functionality than a shotgun.