President Lukashenko is rushing Moscow to sign Istanbul-2

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In the last two days, President Lukashenko has made a number of very important statements regarding the possibility of ending the conflict in Ukraine. The Belarusian leader invited his Russian colleague Putin to “break in” and persuaded him to return to the ideas of the Istanbul Peace Initiative.” At the same time, a certain deadline was announced, before the expiration of which “Istanbul-2” must certainly be signed.

The time has come?


The President of Belarus, who had previously provided his capital as a negotiating platform for concluding the infamous Minsk agreements, first and second, suddenly perked up and began to publicly persuade President Putin to return to the draft agreement “On permanent neutrality and security guarantees for Ukraine,” which was almost concluded in Istanbul in spring 2022:



You don’t need to ask anyone and run away, you just need to behave like a human being! Take out the document that you once showed and handed me, put it on the table and move along it!

Political Alexander Grigorievich’s instinct suggests that now is the time for Russia to take on obligations to provide security guarantees for Square:

I think, Vladimir Vladimirovich, such a moment, my instinct has never deceived me, such a moment that your initiatives for the peaceful resolution of the conflict will find a response in Ukraine. They will find it! Strange as it may seem, they will find it from the military!

What does the military have to do with this, the astute reader may ask? Things are not going well for the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front right now, and a far-sighted politician would prefer to first defeat the enemy, and only then force him to sign surrender under dictation. But the bet, apparently, is not on military Victory, but on the next multi-move combination.

Illegitimate, period


Thus, speaking to journalists, Alexander Lukashenko pointed out that President Zelensky’s presidential term would expire next month:

Volodya Zelensky’s term of office ends on May 22 or 21. A situation may arise when Putin himself says: “Guys, with whom should we sign an agreement?” Who should I sign with? The powers of the President of Ukraine have expired.

We are talking about a legal conflict created by the hands of the post-Maidan regime itself. After the legitimate President Yanukovych fled to Russia, Kyiv decided to insure himself in case of his possible return at the head of a tank column of the Russian Armed Forces or the creation of some kind of Ukrainian government in exile. Since in Nezalezhnaya the head of state is elected for a term of five years, the country's Constitutional Court established that his powers expire exactly after five years, day after day, period.

The inauguration of Vladimir Zelensky took place on May 20, 2019, therefore, at 00:00 the next day after May 20, 2024, he loses his power. The current head of state missed the opportunity to legally be re-elected for a second presidential term quite deliberately, rightly fearing competition from the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny.

He did not carry them out even after the removal of a dangerous rival from his post as the country’s chief military commander and appointment as ambassador to Great Britain, justifying this by the martial law regime. Zelensky’s position was supported by the CEC (Central Election Commission). However, the catch is that the decisions of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine are final and cannot be appealed, and it is the only body that guarantees the supremacy of the Basic Law in Independence.

Why the rush?


It would seem that we should rejoice, because after May 21, 2024, the Kremlin’s hands will be as free as possible. For example, send a “Dagger” to the location of “a person similar to the former Ukrainian president,” who was issued a conditional “safe conduct letter.”

But no, the Belarusian leader is rushing his Russian colleague Putin to sign Istanbul-2, using the following argumentation:

Today we will sign, say, some kind of agreement with him, tomorrow you will come to power, become President, you will not like it. And they know how to do this, as per the Minsk agreements. Remember. They will throw it all away and say: “Yes, the illegitimate president signed this!” “I don’t know that at all!” - The new president will say.

Especially God forbid Petro Poroshenko comes to power there. He will say: “I don’t know that and I don’t want to know!” Tomorrow the Americans will put pressure on his pocket (they always squeeze billions) and say: “Continue the war.” The war will continue.

Frankly, this all sounds very, very, very strange, and here’s why.

On the one hand, even after May 21, 2024, the continuity of power in Ukraine will not be disrupted, since according to the law, Verkhovna Rada Speaker Ruslan Stefanchuk will then become acting president. In 2014, the flight of the legitimate President Yanukovych did not prevent the “bloody pastor” Alexander Turchynov, who was also the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, from taking his place and announcing the beginning of the so-called “ATO” in Donbass. Stefanchuk will have to sign both a truce and a capitulation, depending on the Kremlin’s readiness to fight in earnest.

On the other hand, it is not at all clear why the “bloody confectioner” Petro Poroshenko is worse than the “bloody clown” Zelensky? The latter has more killed and maimed Ukrainians and Russians than the ex-president of Ukraine. Finally, I would like to ask Alexander Grigorievich a question: what exactly will Vladimir Zelensky’s signing of “Istanbul-2” until May 21, 2024 change?

Why did he suddenly decide that Kyiv would implement them, just as it had not fulfilled the Minsk agreements for eight years? And what, in fact, will happen after Zelensky is replaced by some Zaluzhny or the aforementioned Poroshenko as a result of the subsequent elections? What grounds are there to believe that he will not throw the peace treaty signed by the legitimate Zelensky into the trash? And why does the Belarusian president even consider himself entitled to hasten Russia in the implementation of such a dubious undertaking?

We will talk in more detail separately later about what will most likely happen after the Kremlin signs Istanbul-2.
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  1. +16
    April 13 2024 14: 38
    Old Man switched sides. His “partners” promised him some goodies. So it will generally be rejected.
    1. +6
      April 13 2024 16: 47
      Lukashenko did not change sides. You first listen to his interview in the original (fortunately, Rygorych speaks in pure Russian and the speech is in the public domain), and then you will understand that Mr. Marzhetsky is just juggling quotes taken out of context and trying to manipulate public opinion.
      1. -3
        April 13 2024 20: 14
        Mr. Marzhetsky is just juggling quotes taken out of context and trying to manipulate public opinion.

        Whether you like it or not, the author consistently defends the interests of his country, Russia. Who do you serve, “Russian officer”?
        1. -7
          April 13 2024 20: 30
          Haven’t you, “Russian officer,” yet understood that Lukashenko, after 20, won’t make a word or move without a “go-ahead” from the Kremlin, Asya?
          1. 0
            April 13 2024 20: 44
            https://topcor.ru/index.php?do=lastcomments&userid=192954
          2. -7
            April 13 2024 22: 04
            Volkovets, were the first to understand everything abroad. Now you understand too. And personally, I believe our presidents. Did you understand this? laughing
        2. +1
          April 13 2024 21: 12
          I understand perfectly well that I may once again be banned for this post, but with all my heart I wish you to be in my shoes as a disabled person of the 2nd group with practically non-functional legs. I really hope that you will be able to feel what it is like very soon. Although in my opinion, you have long worked for the 1st group, if one were given for lack of morality.
          Bye
          1. -3
            April 13 2024 22: 09
            We sympathize with you. But we are not going to change power. laughing
            1. +2
              April 13 2024 22: 59
              Quote: isofat
              We sympathize with you. But we are not going to change power

              Please remind me where I required this? On this issue, to all sorts of idiots, priors and others like them.
              And yes, I never asked anyone (including here) for sympathy, leniency, or favors. That’s why I don’t sit on my butt and work honestly in production.
              1. -3
                April 13 2024 23: 36
                This is for the future. Sheepwolves are roaming around. laughing
        3. -2
          April 13 2024 21: 58
          Quote: Beydodyr
          Whether you like it or not, the author consistently defends the interests of his country, Russia.

          And for this the author is juggling in order to protect Russia? From whom, not from Putin by chance? laughing
      2. -5
        April 14 2024 11: 33
        Yes, he does not want to join the Russian Federation. It's clear already. But you have to.
    2. +4
      April 13 2024 21: 03
      Lukashenko had already fled to the West, but there they decided not to negotiate with the dictator, but to remove him with the opposition he had prepared, and in his opinion, “submissive.”
      He had to return to Putin, whom he suspects of intending to throw him out of office.
      Lukashenka needs Russia suspended in the situation with Ukraine, so that Putin has no time for unification with Belarus. A truce is a very suitable option for him.
    3. +12
      April 14 2024 08: 50
      Lukashenko cannot dictate to Putin proposals of geopolitical significance.
      Moreover, so that it is publicly announced.
      Only at the request of Putin, he voices the proposals of Putin himself.
      This means that the wind of compromise with the West is blowing in the Kremlin.
      There was a distinct smell of another agreement.
  2. +1
    April 13 2024 14: 55
    He seems like a normal person, but he’s not. He's taking up the old ways again...
    1. +12
      April 13 2024 18: 31
      So Minsk-2 was but Istanbul-2 is not yet! It's a shame, I swear! It's a shame, well! Didn't do anything, yes. Only ... ! And the results are obviously known - they will deceive again, but they will make more than noodles...! Well, then it’s possible - I’m leaving, I did everything I could!
      1. +8
        April 14 2024 00: 04
        You're right. We discuss what is not shown to us - like thimbles. The author does not write anything about Istanbul-2, specifically on points, except for guarantees and neutrality. Nothing is said about the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, about Crimea, the DPR and LPR, as well as about the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, about the tribunal of the Nazis for terrorist attacks, and so on.
        “Istanbul-1” did not take place, then Boris Johnson unwittingly saved Russia from global shame. And now Lukashenko proposes to repeat it again. Why and for what? I wish the author
        S. Marzhetsky answered questions, revealed all the cards and the essence of the Istanbul-2 agreements.
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  4. +4
    April 13 2024 15: 27
    Much ado about nothing. The Chinese say the same thing. This is politics. And politicians don't always say what they think to the press. But the fact that he talked about Zelensky’s legitimacy is exactly what is needed. This is just a pebble for the Western garden.
    1. 0
      April 14 2024 10: 13
      ..And politicians don’t always say what they think to the press

      Such politicians are usually called politicos and hypocrites. You can’t say one thing publicly and do something completely different, indecent. If it has been replaced, then that means it is so.
      The West does not care about Zelensky’s legitimacy; the EU has already stated that elections in Ukraine are its internal matter.
      1. 0
        April 14 2024 17: 32
        Quote: Rusa
        Such politicians are usually called politicos and hypocrites.

        The first thing you mentioned is a journalistic cliche. The second is from the category of morality and ethics. Neither one nor the other has anything to do with big politics, and therefore cannot be a characteristic of a politician as such. And so, yes, politicians don't always say what they think to the press.
  5. +7
    April 13 2024 15: 28
    Father never ceases to amaze, but Putin is already very predictable, this one will run to an agreement as soon as he is beckoned, if only he remembered what words the Kiev clown called him
    1. 0
      April 13 2024 22: 18
      I expect predictions from you, it’s easy for you. laughing
      1. -3
        April 14 2024 08: 02
        to understand what is written, read syllable by syllable and try to include the thought process
        1. 0
          April 14 2024 12: 27
          My thought process is simpler than yours. laughing
          1. -2
            April 14 2024 13: 25
            train him, chess stimulates this process well
    2. 0
      April 13 2024 22: 59
      It’s good that there are no people like you in power. Otherwise you would have thrown your hats at Nat in 14. And he himself would have “fought” in the rear. Like I don’t know how things were with the military commissars in Russia back in 14.
      1. +2
        April 14 2024 08: 08
        14 has absolutely nothing to do with it, and for example, you didn’t have to throw your hats at anyone for Crimea, but you yourself are not “fighting” in the rear now, or maybe you’re scribbling from a trench laughing
  6. 0
    April 13 2024 15: 34
    Putin is forcing Lukashenko to enter his territory and attack Ukraine from the north, but he resists as hard as he can, hence the howling about the Ukrainians mining the border along its entire length and not being able to cross it. Well, you can understand the father who wants to lay down his army, which is like in a circus numbers was not noticed anywhere, and according to him, a 120-strong Ukrainian army is waiting for him on the border with Belarus.
    1. +3
      April 13 2024 16: 52
      Quote: mapok
      Putin forces Lukashenko to join his forces and attack Ukraine from the north

      Do you seriously think that Moscow, in addition to a burning Ukraine, also needs a burning Belarus? What, the barn burned down and the hut also burned?
      1. +2
        April 14 2024 12: 13
        An ally is needed. Ally. Not a partner, not a travel companion. Ally. It's boring, girls.
    2. -3
      April 13 2024 20: 40
      It seems that the Russian army was going to take Ukraine in 2-3 days... no?
      There are 140 million people in Russia, 9 in the Republic of Belarus..... But father has something to think about.
      Tokayev also owes his intact ass to Putin, but for some reason he does not force him to join his side.
      If the father enters into his own, then Kaliningrad will be shoveled down like crazy - and then it’ll take off, is that what you want? Or are you thinking of sitting in your hole?
      1. -2
        April 14 2024 00: 08
        I don’t know how long it takes to kick out Zelensky’s “friends.” We don't want to kill Ukrainians. Yes
      2. +1
        April 14 2024 01: 37
        It seems that the Russian army was going to take Ukraine in 2-3 days... no?

        Of course not. There is no need to attribute the forecasts of the Western semi-yellow press to the Russian army, distorting it too. Yes, they wrote there that Russia could finish off Ukraine in 2-3 days. But these forecasts mentioned tactical nuclear weapons.
        1. +1
          April 14 2024 11: 56
          Western semi-yellow press

          - are you talking about RT and Simonyan?
          1. -2
            April 14 2024 12: 20
            The Aramians bit their tongues when they hinted about an alleged terrorist attack against her and the horse Ksyu... they did not stand on ceremony with others and did not interfere with the Ukrainians.
        2. +1
          April 14 2024 12: 14
          But Solovyov said differently...
          1. +1
            April 14 2024 12: 47
            This is his opinion. I also sometimes listen to Solovyov. But that doesn't mean I completely agree.
  7. +4
    April 13 2024 15: 36
    Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ..
    I'm happy to deceive myself!

    And there is no need to rush him. All the guarantor’s projects miraculously turn into a protracted, resource-draining, bloody tedium. If during the miraculous retreat from Kyiv after Istanbul 1 the children of the leaders had died and been captured, then they would not have been deceived so easily. But their children, it seems, are in a completely different place, and such “naivety” allows them to prolong their stay in London and unlock a little of the funds stolen through back-breaking labor and stored in enemy banks.
    1. -3
      April 13 2024 16: 35
      If you really believe what you wrote, then forgive me your assessment of what is happening is similar to the assessment of an irrational child. Let's start with the fact that no one is able to persuade or influence Putin's decision in any way. Moreover, force him to make a decision that is not in line with his interests. Do you really think that Putin can be deceived, a man with such political experience? It’s just that the real goals differ from those that were officially stated to us, and the battlefield in Ukraine, excuse the rudeness, is also a field of political bargaining.
      1. +3
        April 13 2024 21: 33
        if his political goal is to finish the previously begun work of his idol Yeltsin, then he is indeed moving towards this very confidently...
      2. +1
        April 14 2024 08: 42
        His experience was just screaming and cheating! And with NATO non-expansion and the Minsk agreements...
      3. +3
        April 14 2024 12: 17
        Do you seriously think that Putin cannot make mistakes? Seriously, really? With his political experience?
        Hmm...I don't know what to think. It's not even a cult of personality anymore...
  8. +2
    April 13 2024 15: 53
    In politics, bluffing is often allowed. But the fact that Belarus does not support the Northern Military District is certain. It’s one thing to defend your country, it’s another thing to fight on foreign territory. And there is no doubt that Ukraine has become a stranger in 32 years. We are not greeted with bouquets. Yes, and this is not the most important thing. The main thing is the risk of a collision with NATO. And this will be another war. Someone wants it. Perhaps the stakes have become higher.
    1. +4
      April 13 2024 20: 11
      And there is no doubt that Ukraine has become a stranger in 32 years.

      But is it okay that ten years ago the whole southeast wanted to come to us!? But they were pushed away, they said that there was some great plan,” these are its results, because there was no plan! And there was no will. Where do people who believe in it still come from???
      1. +4
        April 13 2024 21: 38
        and 33 years ago MOST regions of Ukraine voted FOR the preservation of the USSR, in Western Ukrainian Khmelnitsky this percentage was even higher than I supposedly in Russian Kharkov and even Sevastopol...

        and now all the Tatars, except me...

        first, Russia sends ambassadors to (to) the Chernomyrdins-Zurabovs, hobnobs with outspoken... like Yanuks-Ovoshch and Medvedchuk, and then is surprised that they don’t like her...
    2. +4
      April 13 2024 21: 36
      It’s surprising, isn’t it, that people don’t greet you with bouquets?

      after all, after the executioner of Odessa Goncharenko fearlessly walked around Moscow, when a Ukrainian nationalist spoke in Russia at some forum organized by the state, when the government saves Yanukovovoshch, exchanges Medvedchuk for outright ghouls and war criminals, but at the same time leaves children under fire and old people...

      These are all good reasons to celebrate with flowers...
  9. 0
    April 13 2024 16: 04
    I thought that at the “Minsk Concert” the “duet” Merkel and Oland sang for Putin. But it turns out there was a trio behind the curtain, and Lukashenko was pulling it up. And now I’ve switched to “solo”. And he even found the right time! Look and Putin will clap.
  10. +11
    April 13 2024 16: 40
    What's there to guess? Putin demands, and Lukashenko voices Putin’s wishes. The entire comprador power of the Russian Federation, together with Putin, is striving to return to the “holy times.” The bourgeoisie is afraid to say this. They declare everywhere that we are Russians, we are patriots. They will conclude an agreement, and then they will shout that Lukashenko insisted that he was to blame for everything. Russia needs the complete capitulation of Ukraine. The entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, must be returned to Russia, in the form of regions. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. All these agreements, gestures of goodwill, etc., are a betrayal of the people of Russia.
    1. +3
      April 14 2024 12: 10
      The entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, must be returned to Russia, in the form of regions. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist.

      Then you need to start with yourself, first of all: to declare the signing of the Declaration of Sovereignty of Russia on June 12, 1990, which meant the beginning of the end of the USSR, as an act of separatism and high treason, the still living members of the then parliament of the RSFSR who voted for this document - to be held accountable under the relevant articles UK. June 12th is to be declared a day of repentance for betrayal.
      After this, you can restore order among your neighbors and offer them membership in the revived Union. But Ukraine has never been part of the Russian Federation, especially as part of the regions. And she betrayed our common Motherland no more than the people of Russia and the elected government (at that time the legislative branch was actually elected, although now I can’t believe it anymore) did it.
      1. +1
        April 14 2024 12: 41
        In many ways you are right. No one can dispute that in 1991 there was a coup d'état, a seizure of power, a change in the political structure of the state, a change in the name of the state, etc. In terms of political events, the Russian Federation is no different from other former Soviet republics of the USSR. There is one historical thing, Russia has in fact recognized itself that Today's Russia is the legal successor of Ancient Rus', the Muscovite Kingdom, the Russian Empire, and the Soviet Union. All of the above names of one state refer to the same subject of history and international law, which has a new name and a different socio-political system, Russia. Short.
        The exit of the union republics from the USSR was possible only with a positive decision obtained at the USSR referendum and the implementation of the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the exit of a union republic from the USSR”.
        The Constitution of the USSR of 1977 was adopted by all the peoples of the USSR, and permission for the republic to secede from the USSR could only be given by the entire people of the USSR.
        The secession of the republics without a national referendum in the USSR and failure to comply with the law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
        Like it or not, the restoration of Russia’s territorial integrity will happen. People who have committed crimes and sit in power are not immortal. This is not the place to write specifically what laws were violated and your full name.
        1. +4
          April 14 2024 13: 24
          The coup happened not in 1991, but in 1990, on June 12 (and we celebrate this anniversary every year as the main state holiday of the Russian Federation). The USSR, whose laws did not have primacy in most of its territory, including the capital... well, it lasted, in the form of a fiction, for another year, but in Belovezhskaya Pushcha they had just stated a fait accompli, the funeral of a political corpse took place, which by that time already smelled slightly .
          And the current Russian Federation can even proclaim itself the heir of the Macedonian Empire, but only the events of 1917 and 1990-91, which put an end to the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, took place in Petrograd and Moscow, and not at all on the national outskirts. Sticking a knife in the back, and then declaring oneself the legal successor and heir... This is already some kind of crime. And with such a “portfolio” to once again invite former compatriots into a “single family” under your leadership? No matter how you look at it, it’s a very dubious proposal.
  11. +6
    April 13 2024 16: 51
    ..why does the Belarusian president even consider himself entitled to hasten Russia in implementing such a dubious undertaking?

    As a person who is not very experienced in politics, I dare to suggest that the AG is not as strong in initiative as he seems. If it had not been agreed upon, he would have moved his hands, reasoning in general.
    So someone needs to make waves))
  12. -4
    April 13 2024 16: 54
    Why doesn’t Old Man go to Square himself and offer all this to Zelensky?
    1. +5
      April 13 2024 19: 26
      And give people like you a reason to throw another portion at the fan, accusing Lukashenko of another so-called. betrayal.
  13. -10
    April 13 2024 17: 44
    You don’t need to have such “friends” as enemies! This mustachioed cockroach, instead of helping, only harms! He only knows how to STEAL from Russia!
    1. +2
      April 13 2024 19: 24
      Yeah! And he tore off your last socks!
    2. +2
      April 13 2024 21: 40
      do not worry...

      in 5 years Tikhanovskaya (conditional) will “help” you so much that you will get tired of rowing... and the screams will start again about how everyone betrayed us...

      maybe then you’ll at least understand what Lukashenko meant all these years... since now you haven’t made any sense...
      1. +3
        April 14 2024 12: 14
        If the alliance with Belarus rests only on Lukashenko alone, then this means that there is no alliance. In any case, Lukashenko is not eternal, and is not even young anymore. So the situation you described is inevitable, and the only question is time.
      2. -1
        April 14 2024 12: 29
        there won’t be enough patriots and leopards for Tikhanovskaya (pilipchUK) laughing but it’s not a bad idea... the Bulbashis would sit without industry and light, and KAMAZ would say thank you for eliminating another competitor... and Russian tractors should be on Russian streets and not Belarusian ones. the Litvinian spirit with arrogance would have disappeared from them.
  14. +2
    April 13 2024 19: 25
    Someone is lying. Each next sentence of UNCLE VOVA is much worse than the previous one
  15. -4
    April 13 2024 19: 47
    What a deal, why is this empty potato bamboo jumping there grinding! I would like to ask him, did the Belarusians fight to give advice? Corrupt and cunning Belarusian Valuy! Ukroreich is pouring in and now give up everything and go to an agreement only a traitor can do this, after all the sacrifices made for the Victory! I think the people will never forgive Putin for this!
    1. +4
      April 14 2024 09: 33
      Our people are very trusting of the authorities.
      1. +3
        April 14 2024 12: 17
        After everyone calmly swallowed the exchange of godfather Medvedchuk for more than a hundred Azov Nazis, I have no doubt at all about the absolute omnivorousness of our people. And how many examples of this there were after the story with the godfather!
  16. +2
    April 13 2024 19: 51
    Legitimate, illegitimate. who cares.
    In Ukraine there is external management.
    As they say, so they will do.
    Plus a lot of people who grew up hating everything Russian, and the laws are not written for such people. Do something nasty to a Russian and his heart becomes warmer. And the Ukrainian authorities will not be responsible for “these Russophobes.”
    1. 0
      April 13 2024 23: 08
      Well, yes, tell me one more thing: no one needs propaganda, it’s self-indulgence. It’s better to remain silent in a rag. After all, nothing will change. )
  17. -3
    April 13 2024 19: 54
    Quote: vlad127490
    What's there to guess? Putin demands, and Lukashenko voices Putin’s wishes. The entire comprador power of the Russian Federation, together with Putin, is striving to return to the “holy times.” The bourgeoisie is afraid to say this. They declare everywhere that we are Russians, we are patriots. They will conclude an agreement, and then they will shout that Lukashenko insisted that he was to blame for everything. Russia needs the complete capitulation of Ukraine. The entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, must be returned to Russia, in the form of regions. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. All these agreements, gestures of goodwill, etc., are a betrayal of the people of Russia.

    Children's maximalism! It's good in the toy store - Dad buy this, and that, and that one...
    And adults are characterized by pragmatism and thoroughness.
  18. +5
    April 13 2024 19: 55
    If we negotiate, then with whom? Both Zelensky (Ukraine) and the West + the USA need a break, Russia benefits from them “0”. Stop there, doomed to a new war, only this time with the EU represented by NATO. Ukraine will immediately be dragged into NATO.
  19. +2
    April 13 2024 20: 01
    Quote: maiman61
    You don’t need to have such “friends” as enemies! This mustachioed cockroach, instead of helping, only harms! He only knows how to STEAL from Russia!

    Quote: k7k8
    Yeah! And he tore off your last socks!

    These are from the opera of the 90s - All republics steal from Russia. And if Lukashenko remains a friend, then he is stealing. Socks are a simplification...
    1. -2
      April 13 2024 21: 17
      Quote: Kenttt
      Socks are a simplification...

      The local turbo-patriotic crowd doesn’t understand this
  20. 0
    April 13 2024 20: 02
    Quote: Greus Greus
    What a deal, why is this empty potato bamboo jumping there grinding! I would like to ask him, did the Belarusians fight to give advice? Corrupt and cunning Belarusian Valuy! Ukroreich is pouring in and now give up everything and go to an agreement only a traitor can do this, after all the sacrifices made for the Victory! I think the people will never forgive Putin for this!

    You are an angry accuser! Maximalist.
  21. +1
    April 13 2024 20: 07
    Quote: bug120560
    Let's start with the fact that no one is able to persuade or influence Putin's decision in any way. Moreover, force him to make a decision that is not in line with his interests.

    Sounds like an axiom))), look at the rating of your answer! Apparently there are only foolish children sitting here)))
    1. +5
      April 13 2024 21: 17
      You cannot deny that Putin asked Lukashenko to voice the need for negotiations. There are also China, India, Türkiye, which also voice the need for negotiations. Therefore, the idea of ​​negotiations comes from Putin. No one will propose if it is known in advance that the Russian Federation will not agree to negotiations; its goal is complete victory in Ukraine.
      1. 0
        April 14 2024 00: 50
        Where is the guarantee that Zelensky will negotiate with the Russian Federation?
        Moreover, there is a law in “Nezalezhnaya” prohibiting such negotiations.
    2. -3
      April 13 2024 21: 18
      Quote: Andrew13
      Apparently there are only foolish children sitting here

      Quite by chance you turned out to be completely right
  22. 0
    April 13 2024 20: 09
    My purely subjective opinion is that Lukashenko is afraid. After all, if Ukraine ceases to exist, then the following question arises: the Ukrainians have been decided, the Ukrainians are corrupt Russians and now there is no Ukraine, and the corrupt Russians are all in Europe. What about the Belarusians, who are they? This is exactly what Lukashenko is afraid of, and for him it is extremely important that Ukraine, as a state, survives. If Ukraine remains, then we can say that Ukrainians are not corrupt Russians, but a separate nation, just like Belarusians.
    1. +3
      April 13 2024 20: 55
      The reunification of the Russian Federation and Ukraine will raise the question of the Belovezhskaya Conspiracy. LAS does not need such a precedent. Will the GDP also want to shake the memory of the EBN and give hope for fundamental internal innovations? It seems like two different leaders, but they share the same fuse of the 90s, the fuse of disaster. These are the leaders of perishable, passing time. To get out of the catastrophe, a new leader is needed - a unifier, a restorer of the real sovereignty of the people and the country.
    2. +2
      April 13 2024 21: 21
      Do not be afraid. Lukashenko is not afraid of anyone. Even at his adult age, he is not afraid to play hockey in the main team of his First team. And at one time he was not afraid to kick out the ambassadors of the United States and Sweden for activities incompatible with their status. Are you weak?
    3. -2
      April 14 2024 12: 21
      Yes. Exactly. And the end for Belarus will be the same.
    4. +1
      April 18 2024 15: 07
      This is exactly what Lukashenko is afraid of, and for him it is extremely important that Ukraine, as a state, survives. If Ukraine remains, then we can say that Ukrainians are not corrupt Russians, but a separate nation, just like Belarusians.

      This is what motivates this “adviser”. First of all, your interests. Remain in power as long as possible and then pass it on to his heir, his son.
  23. +7
    April 13 2024 20: 33
    IMHO, it's all bullshit. As the Guarantor decides, so it will be. And apparently he asked dad to make such an incomprehensible throw-in - to test the waters, as it were. not the first stuffing on Kremlin topics from slightly left-wing strange personalities...

    He can do all this, he still hasn’t recognized Crimea...
    1. 0
      April 14 2024 09: 28
      Lukashenko cannot recognize Crimea. He needs to beware of Western sanctions for his sake and for our sake.
  24. +3
    April 13 2024 23: 05
    Every ruler is obliged to think first of all about his country, and not about his friends. Even allies. Otherwise, he needs to be driven out. But for our country, the main thing is not to put a spoke in our wheels. What will change for Russia if Lukashenko recognizes Crimea? Never mind. And for Lukashenko there are new sanctions. And who benefits from this? No one. except for whiners, so that there is a reason to whine.
    1. +3
      April 14 2024 12: 26
      Is Belarus, perhaps, a separate country? Maybe Belarusians are a separate people? And do you have your own Belarusian language? Where was the Belarusian state before 1918?
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  26. RFR
    +9
    April 14 2024 00: 01
    All these lies are not good... The Istanbul agreements were completely treacherous... It seems that the authorities are up to no good again...
  27. +3
    April 14 2024 00: 52
    Take out that document that you once showed and handed me, put it on the table and move along it!

    He proposes to give Bandera’s territories which, according to the constitution, are now part of Russia?
  28. +4
    April 14 2024 07: 15
    Let the front collapse first, several regions be captured, and then it will make sense for Istanbul-2. But now it's pointless.
  29. +6
    April 14 2024 07: 20
    Let's win first and then dream of diplomatic breakthroughs. All the same, agreements with the puppets of the West are not even worth the paper they are written on.
  30. +2
    April 14 2024 08: 49
    Where there is Lukashenko, there is betrayal.

    I. Strelkov.
    1. +2
      April 14 2024 11: 21
      Lukashenko has something to respect for - for what he has preserved in Belarus.
  31. 0
    April 14 2024 09: 22
    There will definitely be no deception for the 756th time... Maybe again someone will be slightly killed and that’s all...
  32. +6
    April 14 2024 09: 26
    There should be no more agreements with the EU, USA and England!
    Russia must destroy the criminal fascist regime in Ukraine and that’s it!
  33. 0
    April 14 2024 12: 12
    The topic of Ukraine is a sick one, it hits home both Russians and Ukrainians, it wakes up all citizens living in the territory of the former Soviet Union. Everyone cares about the fate of the divided Russian people in 1991 into the Russian Federation and Ukraine; Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Those who divided the nations in 1991 are in power, their principle of governance is “Divide and conquer”. They don’t need a monolithic big one state, they need principalities, sultanates, everyone wants to be a Khan. All these stuffing with agreements are aimed at hanging noodles on the ears of the people, to lead the people away from the truth.
  34. +3
    April 14 2024 13: 18
    He also rushed the shameful Minsk agreements, which resulted in us getting hurt and thousands of dead guys. You can’t trust a single word of Lukashenko’s cowardice. As soon as Europe and the United States beckon with their fingers to lift the sanctions, he will immediately defect and sell us, so he went into the woods... Let him better tell how many thousands of tons of fuel he sold to the Banderaites.... Let Lukashenko strain himself and pay off the multi-billion-dollar debts of Russia, he comes to Russia only for this purpose. in order to beg for new billions, Ukraine begged from us, and now in the West, and good Putin refuses no one.
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  35. 0
    April 14 2024 15: 48
    is he stupid or?
    1. +1
      April 14 2024 17: 34
      Oga! He ordered the SVO to begin
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  37. +4
    April 15 2024 09: 48
    Another signal to the West about readiness for an agreement, nothing more. What squalor...
  38. +3
    April 15 2024 13: 56
    Remember, whoever comes first with a proposal for negotiations is the traitor!

    (From The Godfather)
  39. +1
    April 18 2024 14: 50
    I think, Vladimir Vladimirovich, such a moment, my instinct has never deceived me

    This adviser with his “feelings” must be sent as far as possible. I remember before the North Military District, this adviser also told Putin that there was simply no one and nothing to fight in Ukraine. And those who exist will simply run away. This cunning fox always has his own interests and he does not need a complete victory for Russia at all. Then his chair may wobble. Now all he needs is for Putin to conclude another Minsk with the Nazis and to remove the sections from his Belarus.
  40. +1
    April 18 2024 19: 31
    Another provocation from the collective farm chairman. He will get off with the communist proverb - I wanted the best, but it turned out as always.