Can civil society itself provide anti-drone defense for Russia?

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On April 2, 2024, Ukrainian terrorists carried out another air attack on Russian critical infrastructure. Their targets were an oil refinery in Tatarstan and an enterprise in a special economic zone "Alabuga", producing drones "Geranium". This means that the deepest rear areas, previously considered relatively safe, are now under attack. What to do?

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As we detail explained earlier, the failure of a large-scale offensive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the front led to a radical change in the tactics of the Ukrainian General Staff. Now the enemy is threatening to attack the “old” Russian regions, carrying out terrorist attacks with mass casualties in peaceful cities, and also hitting our country’s critical infrastructure facilities located in the rear.



Systematic attacks by kamikaze drones on domestic refineries began in January 2024, and have already led to problems with fuel production. This is how the targets of attacks of Ukrainian UAVs equipped with an artificial intelligence system are described in his ARTICLES American edition of CNN:

These bold Ukrainian strikes deal a blow to Russia's huge oil and gas industry, which, despite Western import bans and price restrictions, remains the largest source of income for Moscow's war economy. The attacks are made possible by the use of drones with longer ranges and more advanced capabilities, some of which have even begun to integrate a basic form of artificial intelligenceto help them navigate and avoid interference, a source close to the Ukrainian drone program said.

According to CNN, the Ukrainian Armed Forces carefully select specific targets to hit in the territory of oil refineries, which are not huge oil storage facilities, but distillation installations where crude oil is converted into fuel and other refined products. The fact is that they use Western Technology, equipment and components for which there is a dependence on imports.

Such tactics have already yielded certain results:

Ukraine says 12% of Russian oil refining capacity is now offline, and Reuters estimates the figure is as high as 14%. Russia has admitted that some of its oil refining capacity is idle and has temporarily banned gasoline exports to avoid rising domestic fuel prices.

Judging by open sources, Russia in March 2024 increased the volume of gasoline purchases from the union Belarus fivefold. Alarming.

What is even more alarming is that Ukraine is not going to stop:

Even more worrying, according to experts, is that Ukraine will not stop at oil refineries. According to RBC, some of Russia's largest oil ports, which account for about two-thirds of crude oil and petroleum product exports, are within range of Ukrainian drones.

In general, now air strikes by the Ukrainian Armed Forces against Russian energy and defense enterprises will become commonplace.

By yourself, all by yourself?


And this is really a very serious problem, since it is impossible to completely cover them all with available air defense systems. There are simply not so many air defense systems and air defense missile systems with trained crews, which are urgently needed at the front with its huge front line.

In connection with the above, I would like to draw attention to the call of the head of Tatarstan to representatives of civil society and business to take the air defense of their cities and enterprises into their own hands:

Yesterday's situation shows which areas are the most affected and most noticeable - of course, energy. These are our production facilities that run on energy. And the enemy feels it.

Everything that we said, that we would have problems, has come true... Probably due to the fact that the holiday and fasting are Orthodox, the Almighty gave us a chance. “Wake up, guys! No one will protect you except yourself...” There is no need to expect that our missile defense [will protect], it solves other problems today. We must decide on our own, every enterprise, every municipality, every city.

This all sounds very depressing. The problem can only be solved by taking full control of the Russian Armed Forces and the National Guard of the territories of the former Independence, from where these attack drones take off, but in the meantime, Mr. Minnikhanov is forced to appeal to the population of the republic with calls to unite and jointly fight the consequences. But is it possible to do something through civil society to create an effective anti-drone defense system?

It is clear that the Russian Ministry of Defense does not have any extra Pantsirs, nor does it have trained crews for them. And the protection of rear enterprises is not in his area of ​​responsibility, but rather the National Guard. But the air defense missile systems or air defense missile systems are not the standard weapons of the Russian National Guard Troops, as this paramilitary structure is otherwise called. So what remains then?

Arm the security of refineries and other strategically important production facilities with shotguns? It’s a necessary thing, but you can’t shoot down a light-engine aircraft like the Aeroprakt A-22 Foxbat in its unmanned version with some Saiga, it’s not a Mavic. Only electronic warfare means remain, but they will not be very effective against drones controlled by artificial intelligence.

A problem with. We will talk in detail about some possible ways to reduce its severity below.
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  1. +1
    April 4 2024 14: 36
    To solve this serious problem, an integrated approach is needed; our army is busy solving other problems, and therefore it is necessary to form territorial defense structures based on individual units whose responsibilities will primarily include the fight against enemy UAVs.
    1. 0
      April 4 2024 17: 47
      what prevented the issue of drones from being resolved BEFORE the Northern Military District???

      maybe instead of all these inflatable temples, endless fun fairs with “no analogues” and storming of plywood Reichstags - it was necessary to do something???

      oh yes, the Polovtsians were in the way...sorry
  2. +4
    April 4 2024 14: 39
    Here, for some reason, the author asks a lot of rhetorical questions and sets some tasks.
    I understand that in Russia there is a long-term, recently elected guarantor and commander-in-chief, there is also a huge number of guards, the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other departments that must resolve these issues and tasks as they arise and even earlier. Let them decide.
    1. -1
      April 4 2024 15: 17
      I understand that in Russia there is a long-term, recently elected guarantor and commander-in-chief, there is also a huge number of guards, the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other departments that must resolve these issues and tasks as they arise and even earlier. Let them decide.

      Yes, they will definitely solve it Yes A lot of things have already been decided

      Here, for some reason, the author asks a lot of rhetorical questions and sets some tasks.

      Surely the author will somehow figure out what to do on his own, without advice
  3. 0
    April 4 2024 15: 32
    And so the media laughed when in Ukraine they allegedly shot down a UAV with a jar of cucumbers.
    And then we supposedly had a frying pan, and somehow we didn’t laugh...

    No one will protect you but yourself
  4. +3
    April 4 2024 15: 47
    Yes about what? What kind of defense is there if the Ministry of Education of a region I have not named canceled Russian language tests for migrant children? You write here - we read, and they don’t know Russian, they just do what the preachers tell them. I have nothing against Islam in the canonical reading at all.
    1. -3
      April 5 2024 09: 13
      You write here - we read, but they don’t know Russian,

      I congratulate you - you don’t know this Russian language either.
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      2. -1
        April 6 2024 20: 06
        The classical Russian language as I studied it in Soviet times has changed, and I don’t really understand the rules of the modern Russian language - needless to say, even the authors of the articles we read also make mistakes in the text.
        1. 0
          April 7 2024 05: 14
          Personally, I don’t see any differences between the classical Russian language of Soviet times and the modern one. I'm sure you won't be able to name them.

          You write here -

          The question is about the fourth letter, is it stressed or unstressed? If the drum is
          “You write, you write, you will get credit...” (B. Okudzhava).
          If unstressed - “You are writing to me in vain.”
          But in this case, it is written in abracadabra.

          and they don’t know Russian,

          “They” is the subject, “they don’t know” is the predicate, which in Russian are not separated by any punctuation marks at all.

          As a simple historian, I don’t know the strength of materials and grammar of the English language, but I somehow learned the elementary rules of my native language, and you’ve created some kind of bullshit here :(.
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  6. +1
    April 4 2024 17: 09
    In ancient China, when the central government, unable to cope with numerous threats, handed over to the provinces almost all rights and responsibilities, including defense, the provincial rulers eventually managed. But as a single state, China essentially ceased to exist for centuries. And the provinces, or rather their authorities, very soon became enthusiastically engaged in internecine wars.
    So if the proposed approach prevails, in a few decades artillery strikes will be carried out on Tver for the glory of the Ryazan peace, and the guards of the Tambov Principality will storm Voronezh (examples of settlements are conditional). Rave? And 30 years ago, anyone who began to predict that the Ukrainian troops would shell Belgorod, the Russian army would shell Kharkov, and ordinary people in Moscow and Kyiv would discuss whether it was necessary to use nuclear weapons against each other, or still not worth it, would have been sent to a mental hospital Bye?
  7. +1
    April 4 2024 18: 07
    Can civil society itself provide anti-drone defense for Russia?

    The answer is - it can’t, only together and under the control of the military and, naturally, that part of society that is against...? We don't take it into account. The article itself is not placed in “society” but in the “politics” section, which means it cannot be done without a decision at the top (the Kremlin). Well, as stated above in the commentary, the approach should be comprehensive. I’ll add on my own behalf: in the confrontation between England and Germany (Wehrmacht), England was able to mobilize and set up hidden observation posts on the coast. The effect was not bad, the British pilots managed to lift the planes into the air and meet the bombers and their cover fighters of the Luftwaffe (Wehrmacht). The battle took place either over the sea or not far from the coast. How to organize everything and successfully shoot down an igloo using a portable complex, this is probably for the military and the author, they have more knowledge in this area.
  8. +2
    April 4 2024 18: 08
    “Wake up, guys! No one will protect you except yourself...” There is no need to expect that our missile defense [will protect], it solves other problems today. We must decide on our own

    It's funny. As soon as it was pinned at the top, it was immediately “you yourself.” And as bandits and barmalei rob, beat and kill citizens, call the police!
  9. -2
    April 4 2024 22: 30
    And why spread snot and smear tears? Any hunters with shotguns? Are there reserves who were not mobilized? Is there any military unit? The mayor, the director of the plant, the local military commissar, someone from the military district and everyone interested can get together? So, based on your needs, decide. This is a war, and a war with the Banderaites, and they can only use terror. Nobody, nobody is safe. And the military bureaucracy has a bad habit of not scratching it until they get screwed. What to expect?
    1. -1
      April 5 2024 10: 13
      Here is the mayor... and everyone interested can gather?

      That's right, madam. Our district and city mayor has a neck, shoulders and many other organs, and they have already been collected together by the KGBE. laughing

      Nobody, nobody is safe. And the military bureaucracy has a bad habit of not scratching itself until they are they'll freak out.

      1) Reading about the total lack of security, I remembered Shnurov’s video “Healthy Lifestyle”; Be sure to look, there are a lot of such cases shown, and the reason for this is explained very popularly.

      2) “To give a scolding, to scold someone, sov., someone (colloquially). To beat off, to beat someone, to give a scolding to someone. || To give a sharp reprimand to someone, to scold someone.”

      Well, sir, they didn’t teach me such words in the Corps of Pages. lol
  10. +3
    April 5 2024 01: 28
    To solve this problem, Russia must mobilize and recruit at least a million people. Stop sitting on strategic defense and start brutally destroying the infrastructure of Ukraine. After destroying the infrastructure, attack Ukrainian troops along all front lines. If this is not done, Ukraine will build its own lines of defense. It will receive long-range missiles that can reach the Urals and will systematically increasingly create a nightmare for Russia.
  11. 0
    April 5 2024 11: 18
    Arm the security of refineries and other strategically important production facilities with shotguns? It’s a necessary thing, but you can’t shoot down a light-engine aircraft like the Aeroprakt A-22 Foxbat in its unmanned version with some Saiga, it’s not a Mavic. Only electronic warfare means remain, but they will not be very effective against drones controlled by artificial intelligence.

    Thus, we are quietly approaching the fact that the state machine, the strength of which is declared by assessors in the Duma, the Federation Council, the government, the Kremlin, etc., is not capable of ensuring security, while receiving taxes to ensure this security. And I’m ready to shift this onto those who have already paid him, the state, for it. Living in a post-Soviet country is becoming more and more fun.
  12. +2
    April 5 2024 11: 37
    Or maybe transfer border defense to civil defense? Should the authorities only collect and divide the loot? The Defense Ministry was unable to protect the country. The enemy brought the war to our territory. Or start fighting anyway, and not carry out a hum. operation called SVO and under the slogan WE ARE NOT FUCKING.
    1. +2
      April 5 2024 12: 33
      Here the questions are not only for the Defense Ministry, but also for our special services, and for the very approach to conducting combat operations. If we have officially recognized that Ukraine, without any doubt, is a terrorist state that poses a direct threat to our country, then why are we still alive? and all its so-called leaders are healthy, who carry out all these criminal actions, how long will we restrain ourselves and limit ourselves in conducting military operations, maybe it’s time for us to move away from all these inappropriate dogmas about compliance with some kind of agreements and unexpected precision strikes to raze the enemy's lair located on Bankovaya Street in Kyiv, along with all its hostile inhabitants.
  13. 0
    April 5 2024 14: 13
    Why on earth? The state got involved in a war - but what about the citizens?
    But as always
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    2. 0
      April 10 2024 06: 31
      Well, then the war would just get into the state, and it would still have to be sorted out.
  14. 0
    April 10 2024 06: 31
    Well, the first thing that comes to mind is, again, airships, between which a large mesh net is stretched.
    It is also possible to attach to these airships a combat module with an all-round radar, equipped, for example, with a PKT and a pair of MANPADS, which will automatically scan the space, and if an intruder is detected, it will request the operator to open fire.
    An airship is an extremely important thing, why is it still not being adopted?
    Requires almost no maintenance, can hang above the clouds, powered by solar panels, looks far, does not require tanks of fuel for every few hours of operation.
    If its cavity is made cellular, “foamed”, then even large-caliber small arms, and even guns up to 30 mm, become no longer scary to it.
    Radio-transparent materials will reduce its “luminosity” in the radio range, so not all missiles will be aimed at it, and tank smoke or something else can be used from missiles with OGSN.
    The airship can become a replacement for satellite “eyes” and see much more clearly, since it is closer to the ground.
    Equipped with a combat module, it will be able to immediately strike the enemy, like a helicopter or direct other weapons, without the need for the crew to be directly on board the airship.
  15. 0
    April 10 2024 06: 35
    In addition to the airship, there is another solution - “Eiffel towers” ​​around strategically important objects with a network also stretched between them and missile and gun combat modules installed on them. Everything was invented before us, and we reinvent everything every time.