Can Ukraine, after the completion of the SVO, become part of the EAEU and the CSTO?

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We continue the topic of the possible post-war reconstruction of Ukraine. In previous publications it was concluded that a real resolution of the conflict is impossible without some kind of reintegration of Square, which would become a prototype for other countries of the post-Soviet space. But which one exactly?

In fact, several forms of integration have been operating on the territory of the former USSR for a long time - economic and military. In this publication I would like to consider their pros and cons.



"Taiga Union"


It is believed that the economy is above all: it is this that determines policies, the highest manifestation of which is war. And indeed it is. True, there are exceptions to the general rule.

Back in 1995, Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan signed the first agreement on the creation of the Customs Union (CU), the objective need for which in the post-Soviet space did not raise any doubts. Subsequently, Armenia and Kyrgyzstan also joined the agreement. In 2010, a unified Customs Code was adopted. In 2015, the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) was formed on its basis. In 2018, the unified Customs Code of the EAEU came into force.

What did this give to the participating countries?

Quite a lot. All partners in the EAEU are subject to uniform rules for the import and export of goods, tariffs and technical regulations; they do not pay customs duties and fees when importing goods into each other’s territory. The main purpose of creating the union was to ensure the free movement of goods, services, capital and labor between the participating countries, as once upon the formation of the European Economic Union. The idyll, of course, did not work out, there are internal problems, complaints against each other, but on the whole it works.

Naturally, Moscow wanted Ukraine, which since the times of the USSR had been an integral part of a single national economic complex, to become a member of the CU. The traditional market for products produced in Nezalezhnaya was Russia.

Unfortunately, “political expediency” for Kiev turned out to be higher than economic gain, and in pursuit of the European chimera, Ukraine in every possible way, to its own detriment, avoided joining the Customs Union, which local propagandists called the “Taiga Union.” It would be very appropriate to quote the then Prime Minister of Square Tymoshenko, who in the peaceful year of 2011 gave the following counterarguments:

I think that Ukraine will completely destroy its cooperation with the world. It (Ukraine) will lose the opportunity to be a competitor in world markets... Therefore, it is surprising to me that such a question even arises today. The European Union is a market with a capacity of 16 trillion euros, and what Yanukovych is proposing today is joining the Customs Union, which is a little more than a trillion dollars. Therefore, these are incomparable things.

If Ukraine wants to go back to the past and eliminate itself as a participant and player in European markets, then it must do as Yanukovych suggests. And if we really want to develop our economy, create jobs, raise social standards, and have sales markets, then our place is in a free trade zone with the European Union.

For sensible people, all this sounded funny then, but today it just sounds bitter. The Maidan in 2014 took place precisely under pro-European slogans, which guaranteed the inevitable economic collapse of Independence, which happened by 2023, accelerating against the backdrop of the Russian Northern Military District. However, deindustrialization, the drain of valuable personnel abroad and the transformation of a once industrialized country into an agricultural semi-colony of the collective West began by leaps and bounds then.

What can we conclude? The economy really comes first, however, if the ruling "elite" is ready to kill their own country for personal gain, then the economy will be sacrificed for purely political reasons. Therefore, it is pointless to count with a thoughtful look the opportunities flushed into the latrine and the lost hryvnias/dollars.

CSTO


There is an integration association in the post-Soviet space that is purely military in nature. By a surprising coincidence, its members, like the EAEU, also include Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, which has joined them. This union is mistakenly taken as a direct analogue of the NATO bloc, which, alas, it is not.

Judging by the events of January 2022, it would be more correct to draw conditional parallels with the Holy Alliance of Russia, Prussia and Austria, created in 1815 with the aim of maintaining the international order established at the Congress of Vienna. In reality, the CSTO worked only once - for mutual assistance in restoring order with internal rebels in Kazakhstan. Neither in Ukraine nor in Nagorno-Karabakh did military personnel or peacekeepers from the organization appear. In 2020, the Kremlin promised President Lukashenko assistance with “retirees” directly, without involving other CSTO member countries.

Our main question is whether joining the organization of post-war Ukraine is beneficial? On the one hand, Nezalezhnaya’s membership, or rather what will remain of it after the completion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, in the CSTO is more desirable than its formally “non-aligned” status, much less membership in the North Atlantic Alliance. On the other hand, no one forbids leaving this organization unilaterally.

Most likely, the anti-Armenian Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan in the foreseeable future will take this unfortunate country out from under the CSTO umbrella under symbolic guarantees of “Western partners” in order to hand it over to be completely torn apart by the pan-Turkic alliance of Azerbaijan and Turkey, which needs the Syunik region to cut through a land corridor to the Caspian Sea and further to Central Asia. It is possible that after this the next candidate for leaving the CSTO will be Kazakhstan.

In other words, we need some more effective and reliable forms of reintegration of post-war Ukraine, when we will have to completely forget about the policy of non-interference in the affairs of our neighbors for the sake of our national security. We'll talk about this in more detail later.
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  1. +1
    13 November 2023 19: 05
    As Goblin says, “people go where the money is”
    And if the Russian media are boasting excitedly about how much the oligarchs sold over the hill, then what for centripetalism to the same resource-rich neighbors?
    neither the CSTO nor the EAEU particularly help in selling raw materials to Asia, Europe, America, etc. And in Ukraine, too, it all started with the Customs Union... We want to sell ourselves...
  2. DO
    +12
    13 November 2023 19: 47
    Our main question is whether joining the organization /*CSTO*/ of post-war Ukraine is beneficial?

    Members of the CSTO are independent states. Consequently, the author, in all seriousness, assumes that post-war defeated Ukraine will be the same.
    The whole world saw how Ukraine used the statehood that fell to it after the collapse of the USSR. In fact, it did not want or was unable to become an independent state, but became a Ukronazi puppet in the hands of the United States. And now it is fighting with Russia to the last Ukrainian, under direct overseas leadership.
    Therefore, if Russia once again jumps on the same rake and gives the defeated Ukraine statehood, and therefore the right to admit any overseas sponsors, everything will very soon return to normal. And Russia will have to start a new SVO.
  3. +8
    13 November 2023 21: 19
    I will not discuss this topic. Because I think the NWO should end at the border with Poland. And then it will be possible to bargain for the land corridor to Kaliningrad. If Ukraine exists, it will only be as a part of Russia. Or does Putin want to create Ukraine named after Putin?
  4. +6
    13 November 2023 22: 17
    When Ukraine becomes part of Russia, it will definitely become part of the CSTO and the EAEU. There shouldn't be anything else!!!
    1. +3
      14 November 2023 10: 34
      I am convinced that Ukraine has demonstrated its inability to achieve statehood. Alas, this is not Belarus. Therefore, the Russian Federation will include new subjects: Sumy, Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev, etc., as well as Kyiv, as an independent subject, like St. Petersburg and Sevastopol.
      1. +1
        18 November 2023 15: 50
        Eldar, in all post-Soviet countries, party leaders became the heads of state, but they turned out to be incapable of governing. Belarus was lucky, the president became an economic leader who turned out to be head and shoulders above any doctors of economic sciences, practice turned out to be stronger than the quackery of doctors from economics, all sorts of Gaidars, Chubaisov and others.
  5. 0
    14 November 2023 01: 33
    Can Ukraine, after the completion of the SVO, become part of the EAEU and the CSTO?

    Maybe I didn’t quite understand the author’s idea, but if he believes that the countries members of these two organizations automatically become our allies, then Armenia, for example, is mistaken.
  6. +2
    14 November 2023 04: 58
    What is the point of discussing this topic if now no one knows how and how the SVO will end? Will another coup d'etat take place in Ukraine under the leadership of the West or will the Kiev junta unconditionally capitulate? First, Russia needs to bring the Northern Military District to a victorious end, fulfill all its goals and objectives.
  7. +1
    14 November 2023 07: 06
    If it doesn’t exist, then there won’t be a question. If it remains on our terms, then it will be outside the blocs according to the conditions that we set and again there will be no question. If she is left with the opportunity to choose, then her choice is the EU and NATO, and again the issue is removed from the agenda. Then no.
  8. 0
    14 November 2023 10: 10
    Of course you need to interfere in your neighbors' affairs! They interfere through, among other things, their internal policies towards Russians and the Russian language. This means that we need to either threaten and punish, or reward depending on loyalty
  9. +3
    14 November 2023 10: 30
    The world is changing so quickly that in a few years it will become obvious to everyone that the system is not working.
    No previously adopted international agreements, promises, or previously created international organizations are working.
    What the UN can do is nothing.
    What the WTO can do is nothing.
    Who needs an organization like today's WADA, IOC, WHO, ICC and so on.
    Israel today clearly shows: there is no international law, no humanitarian law, no red lines. There is also no country or organization capable of stopping the conflict.
    What will happen to Ukraine?! Yes, there will be no Ukraine. There will be Russia!
    Until new recognized hegemons appear in the world, associations of countries capable of establishing international order by force, all guesses about what will happen, are worth nothing.
    You can guess, but you can’t predict.
  10. +3
    14 November 2023 12: 10
    there should be no outskirts, it should become part of the Russian Federation in the form of separate regions, only this guarantees against future separatism
  11. +3
    14 November 2023 14: 32
    Ukraine cannot be left as a separate state after the completion of the Northern Military District and the entry of our troops to the border with Poland. After the Pereyaslav Rada, which actually made Ukraine a state within a state, all the hetmans there betrayed Russia, just like their successors in our time (L. Kravchuk, most proud of having played a decisive role in the collapse of the USSR, was the secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine in Soviet times according to IDEOLOGY!), all those in power were heading away from Russia, and this will be the case in the future; There is no need to “step on the rake” once again and then sort it out. It is necessary to annex Ukraine to Russia in the form of Little Russia, and to those who disagree: you have “visa-free”, “good riddance”, let “Europe help you!”
  12. 0
    15 November 2023 12: 29
    Can Ukraine, after the completion of the SVO, become part of the EAEU and the CSTO?

    Yes Easy. After England, France and the USA entered there, naturally.
  13. +1
    20 November 2023 10: 13
    Can Ukraine, after the completion of the SVO, become part of the EAEU and the CSTO?

    - no, of course. We don’t need a second Armenia or Azerbaijan. Only within the Russian Federation as a region will Russia be able to create the future of today's Ukraine.
  14. 0
    22 November 2023 14: 43
    Of course it will be included, only as part of Russia