Ladoga, Azov or Dnieper: what new flotilla will be created in Russia

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Speaking at a meeting of the Russian Security Council, its deputy head Dmitry Medvedev announced new threats around Russia and spoke about plans for the further development of the Russian Armed Forces and the Russian Navy. Among other things, the creation of a certain new flotilla was mentioned. What could we be talking about?

Fleets and flotillas


Verbatim Dmitry Anatolyevich, appointed curator of the project, stated the following:



To effectively protect the independence and security of our state, a set of measures will be taken to expand, increase the size of the Armed Forces, and strengthen them. Including next year, it is planned to form another army corps, seven divisions, 19 brigades, 49 regiments and one flotilla.

A fleet is usually understood as either all the ships of a certain state, or ships concentrated in one of the seas, capable of jointly performing strategic tasks. A flotilla is a smaller group of military vessels and can be part of a fleet. As a rule, a flotilla serves a specific region and can be sea, lake or even river.

The Russian Navy includes the Northern, Pacific, Baltic and Black Sea fleets, as well as the Caspian flotilla. Where could a new flotilla appear - on Ladoga, on the Sea of ​​Azov or on the Dnieper?

Ladoga flotilla?


In truth, the appearance of the Ladoga flotilla can be considered the most likely. A few weeks ago we told in detail about how two small missile ships of the Baltic Fleet, Sovetsk and Odintsovo, were transferred to Lake Ladoga. The captain of one of the RTOs said this in interview “Zvezda” about the goals of the trip:

We were the first among the ships of the formation to master the new theater of navigation, to study it in terms of navigation and hydrography... For the first time in history, we passed the Neva without tugboats!..

It was necessary to assess the capabilities of the Leningrad naval base in terms of supplying ships. This includes fuel, electricity, and logistics support. Even satellite communications there have their own characteristics that needed to be checked: other satellites, other traffic intervals. In addition, it was necessary to see how the RTO hulls would behave in fresh water...

The reasons why the Russian Ministry of Defense is looking for a new, safer parking lot for “caliber carriers” lie on the surface. Small missile ships of the Karakurt and Buyan projects were once built to circumvent the INF Treaty restrictions and were intended to contain the NATO bloc, based in the Kaliningrad region, its very underbelly. However, a year and a half after the start of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Ukraine, Russia’s conflict with the North Atlantic Alliance has reached such a stage that there is a very real risk of a direct military clash with neighboring Poland and the Baltic states.

From their territory, preventive missile and artillery strikes could be launched against the DKBF base in Baltiysk, and then the highly valuable naval carriers of the Kalibr cruise missiles would simply die ingloriously right at the piers. You can see how this might look “at minimum” in the Black Sea, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces staged a hunt for ships and submarines of the Russian Navy with the help of British-French cruise missiles. It is symbolic that the Ukrainian Nazis launched their next missile attack precisely on the Day of National Unity of Russia, managing to damage one of the Black Sea Karakurts.

In general, the main surface composition of the Russian Navy has already dispersed from Sevastopol, and it is good that this has already been done, otherwise the losses among its ships could only increase. Apparently, the Buyans and Karakurts will be transferred from the Baltic Sea to Ladoga, where they will officially form the Ladoga Flotilla.

Azov?


The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation gave some reasons to believe that a separate Azov flotilla may arise by creating a separate Azov naval region. Apparently, its tasks should include removing some of the responsibility from the Black Sea Fleet, as well as maintaining a favorable operational regime in the waters and territories adjacent to the Sea of ​​Azov. Most likely, the composition of this flotilla can be formed from high-speed patrol and artillery armored boats.

But the appearance of long-range weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian Armed Forces calls into question the feasibility of creating the Azov flotilla at the present time. The Kiev regime may not spare expensive foreign missiles to destroy even small ships for the sake of a loud PR effect, in order to show that it is not giving up Azov, and Russia will not give it up so easily.

Dneprovskaya?


On the need to create the Dnieper flotilla of the Russian Navy, consisting of high-speed boats and armored boats, we wrote back in February 2023. Unfortunately, on this great Russian river and in the Dnieper-Bug estuary, the enemy has a quantitative and qualitative advantage in special watercraft over the Russian army.

Today about this they say serious respected military experts. The river flotilla on the Dnieper is necessary both for defense and for a hypothetical offensive with subsequent crossing of the river. Will it really be created?

We'll see.
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  1. -3
    6 November 2023 14: 54
    Ladozhskaya. On self-propelled barges. With the possibility of relocation to Onega.
  2. 0
    6 November 2023 15: 06
    With such a development in the range of high-precision weapons, the Baikal flotilla will have to be created before the fleet is rebuilt according to the new 21st century requirements...
  3. +1
    6 November 2023 15: 18
    Experience teaches our leaders nothing. Except for one thing - replacing signs. I propose renaming the Black Sea Fleet into the coastal fleet, for starters, and then into the Don or Danube. For if Moscow was drowned in the sea, then they will not drown it in the river - shallowly.
  4. +2
    6 November 2023 15: 51
    I am for our military and civilian ships to still sail in the Black and Baltic Seas. And so that for every encroachment on our ships there would be a response that would wean us from attacks for a long time. You cannot hide all the time. Part of the seas is our property. And leaving this water area means giving everything into the hands of the enemy. “Petya, don’t walk on the street. There are bad boys there.”
    1. -2
      6 November 2023 15: 59
      So no one is demanding that we leave our water area. So far, no one seems to be encroaching on our territorial waters.
  5. 0
    6 November 2023 16: 33
    It would be cool to create a Mediterranean flotilla or a Red Sea fleet, otherwise a squadron is not serious, but where are the ships...
    1. -1
      6 November 2023 16: 52
      The squadron is fine. There was such a 10th operational squadron in the USSR Navy. Here's how to recreate it. This is no joke.
  6. -2
    6 November 2023 17: 07
    Well, I don’t know, in my opinion, all these words of Dmitry Anatolyevich somehow look like the activities of “effective managers.” I’ve forgotten how in the history of the Russian state in the past, were there “effective managers” under Peter the Great? And how they made fun of young Peter, saying: Well, let him build a funny fleet. We all know where we started, where we aspired and what we achieved. It’s a pity that Peter the Great is not here and Dmitry Anatolyevich has a long beard. Although, knowing from history the disposition of Peter the Great, this would not have embarrassed him at all.
  7. 0
    6 November 2023 18: 11
    Which? Sakhalinskaya.
  8. -2
    6 November 2023 18: 43
    Mississippi bully
  9. +1
    6 November 2023 19: 21
    Ladoga and Karakurt are good. However, Ladoga is freezing. It turns out that it is better to place caliber daggers on railway and ground systems. It's cheaper. A warship is expensive.
    1. 0
      6 November 2023 19: 49
      Let's make icebreaking Karakurts!
  10. 0
    6 November 2023 23: 31
    The entire territory of Ukraine will be Russian Federation, and the Black Sea will be ours. The territories of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania will be Russian, and then the Baltic Sea will be ours. We screwed up the country of the USSR, now we are hiding in the reeds on rivers and lakes.
  11. +1
    7 November 2023 06: 13
    respected Dmitry Anatolyevich apparently meant the Ladoga flotilla, because its formation has already begun, and politicians of this level rarely let words go to waste, he said about one flotilla and that means one new flotilla will appear, the question is different, regardless of the results of the Northern Military District, it is obvious that a fleet in closed waters surrounded by foreign enemy shores is completely ineffective, with all the aggressiveness of the Ukrainian fascists, their naval capabilities are ridiculous, but they destroyed a cruiser, sank a large landing ship, damaged large and small ships of the Russian Navy, what will happen in a conflict with a strong enemy? the smart one learns from the mistakes of others, but the stupid one does not learn from his own... but the transfer of the entire fleet of the second rank and the Varyag to the North and Kamchatka is long overdue, .... large ships are needed there, and on closed seas they are meaningless targets
  12. 0
    8 November 2023 18: 46
    Now, first of all, we need to think about how to preserve the Black Sea Fleet. Somehow it is rapidly declining
  13. DO
    0
    10 November 2023 13: 04
    In the hypothetical case of Finland blocking the Gulf of Finland, the Ladoga caliber flotilla would be of great use.