Chinese or American: which high-speed rail construction experience is more suitable for Russia

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High-speed railways are considered the hallmark of technologically advanced advanced countries. However, as one “daughter of an American officer” used to say, this is not so simple.

What are high-speed lines (HSL)? This is the railway infrastructure and rolling stock that ensures the movement of high-speed and high-speed trains at speeds above 200 km/h. The pioneers in this area were Japan and France, and today China has the most developed high-speed rail network in the world, which is considered to be a role model. Russia is not on this list, but where is the United States on it?



China


China is truly a worthy example to follow in how one can and should use the “fat years” to develop its own economics and internal infrastructure. The previously existing railway network, the average speed of which was 48 km/h, was inferior to other types of transport, including road transport, and was considered a real brake on development.

An ambitious campaign to develop China's railway infrastructure began in 1998, and soon the average speed of passenger trains reached 70 km/h. In 2003, the first high-speed line, designed to carry trains at speeds of up to 250 km/h, was built, connecting a seaside resort near Beijing called Qinhuangdao and Shenyang, a large city in the northeastern part of the country. It should be taken into account that the HSR is not modern trains on old railways, like Sapsan in Russia, but a separate infrastructure, built according to different technological standards, around which all the accompanying infrastructure is created - stations, stations, depots, etc.

Today, the PRC has the world's largest high-speed railway network, connecting the country's largest cities and even spreading to neighboring Laos. Thanks to this, life in the Middle Kingdom has ceased to be tied to Beijing or Shanghai, as it is to Moscow and St. Petersburg in Russia. Travel time has been dramatically reduced, and the average Chinese can live in one city, work in another, study in a third and relax in a fourth, all while being able to do everything. The country, which is huge in territory, turned out to be connected by strong internal ties that contribute to its socio-economic development and scientific and technological progress.

Of course, many other states with ambitions would like to adopt the positive Chinese experience. Discussions on this topic, for example, have been going on in Russia for many years, and recently this issue has been revisited. touched President Putin personally. What is the difficulty, why high-speed railways were not built in our country in the “fat years” and why is this being seriously discussed at the very top in the “lean years”?

The problem is the extreme cost and complexity of such a project, which needs to be extended over the gigantic territory of Russia. There is no talk about payback at all; the high-speed railway will be subsidized, financed from the budget. Plus there are difficulties of a purely technical nature, since our country has been under Western sanctions for several years now. Of course, you can call on Chinese partners to build everything themselves, as in Laos, but there their share in the infrastructure project is a total of 705, and Laos is a large debtor to Beijing.

USA


In order not to become completely despondent, it is worth looking at how things stand with the high-speed railway in the United States, our geopolitical enemy. Hardly anyone will question the financial capabilities and scientifictechnical the potential of a “hegemon”, but not all is well there.

The United States has the world's longest railway network, which was once a factor in its rapid economic growth. The products of American factories, factories and farms began to be quickly delivered to ocean ports on both coasts for export. However, in the 50s of the last century, the so-called Great Rail Pogrom occurred.

With the massive advent of automobiles, the construction of a system of highways, or “interstates,” began, connecting all of the States. This happened after the former military general Eisenhower, impressed by Hitler's autobahns in Germany, became president and wanted the same. High-speed jet civil aviation began to actively develop. Even small towns had their own airfields, and small aircraft became ubiquitous.
All together, this led to a decrease in passenger traffic for American private railway companies and their bankruptcy. Today no matter what news from the USA, then a message about some kind of accident on the dilapidated, gigantic railway network.

And against this background, there have been several attempts to build high-speed rail as a competitive alternative to air travel and high-speed highways. One of the most significant projects was to connect Los Angeles and San Francisco, allowing travel from city to city in just 2 hours 40 minutes at a speed of 350 km/h. By 2029, a high-speed railway with a length of almost 1300 km and 24 stations is expected to be built in California.

Governor Schwarzenegger lobbied for the SCM in 2008; in the referendum, 53% of Californians spoke in favor of it, the rest were against it. The arguments in favor were as follows: in San Francisco, renting a two-room apartment costs an average of $4200 a month, and in the Kings administrative district - 900. At the same time, it would be possible to get there by high-speed train in just an hour, which would allow companies from Silicon Valley locate their back offices in the cities of the Central Valley and use cheaper labor resources. Plus, of course, saving up to 40% of harmful emissions, which is important for a democratic state. Beauty!

But with the implementation everything turned out to be not so simple. The cost of the high-speed rail project in California was initially estimated at 40 billion dollars, then it grew to 77 billion, and then to 98,1 billion. It was not possible to collect the entire amount; a lot of problems arose with land allotments; the project was opposed by the Republican Party, which considered it a waste of funds. Then-President Trump harshly criticized the HSR:

California, a state that has squandered billions of dollars on its fast train that is out of control and has no hope of completion, appears to be the instigator!

The project is constantly slowing down, deadlines are shifting to the right, the budget is growing. Somehow all this is very reminiscent of our Russian realities. Taking into account the possibility of revenge by the Republican Party in the presidential elections in 2024, the prospects for the implementation of the Californian HSR seem extremely vague.
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  1. +6
    26 October 2023 14: 23
    I could not find information in the article about what the difference is between the Chinese and American experience in the construction of high-speed lines.
    1. +4
      26 October 2023 15: 25
      China has them, but the USA doesn't.
      those. conclusion - there is no point in looking outside, but deciding according to your capabilities + needs
      1. 0
        26 October 2023 15: 50
        And what kind of experience does the United States have in the construction of high-speed highways? This is precisely what the title of the article states.
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      2. 0
        27 October 2023 17: 10
        Quote from Constantin N.
        There are none in the USA.

        Is.

        The Acela Express (or Acela for short; pronounced "əˈsɛlə") is an American high-speed passenger train operated by Amtrak. Its maximum speed is 240 km/h and it is the only high-speed train on the American continent. At the same time, "Acela" is operated on regular (but reconstructed) lines, and therefore the train is equipped with devices for tilting the body. This makes it possible to better fit into small radius curves at high speed.

        Regular operation of Acela trains began on December 11, 2000. They travel in the northeastern United States from Washington through Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, New York, New Haven and Providence to Boston, covering a distance of 734 km in 6 hours 38 minutes. The train is a serious competitor to airplanes. Thus, Acela Express accounts for about half of all passenger traffic between Washington and New York, as well as 37% of passenger traffic between New York and Boston.

        On average, Acela high-speed trains carry about 3 million passengers per year (for example, in 2016 - 3,4 million[1]). In addition, about 7 million more passengers are transported by conventional passenger trains, which have a large number of stops.

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela_Express

  2. +7
    26 October 2023 15: 09
    In order to start such projects, first the power in the Kremlin must change, and the current leaders are not capable of anything except chatter from the stands and May decrees
    1. +1
      26 October 2023 15: 38
      Quote: rotkiv04
      In order to start such projects, first the power in the Kremlin must change, and the current leaders

      I don’t presume to judge the personal contribution of current leaders, but in recent years the Russian Federation has completed many worthy infrastructure projects, especially in terms of bridges.

      So if they decide to do it and allocate funding, they will most likely do it.
      The question is how much high-speed rail is needed in the Russian Federation.
      This is a very expensive pleasure both in terms of construction and in terms of operation.
      High-speed train tickets are often more expensive than plane tickets.

      So if everything goes well with the PD-8 / PD-14, then the high-speed rail projects can be put aside.
      Well, if not, then yes, we will have to replace imports by planes with trains...
      1. -2
        27 October 2023 12: 05
        Replacing imported high-speed trains with domestic ones is never easier than finishing off all these PDs. So if it doesn’t work out with airplanes, then it’s unlikely that things will work out with the high-speed train either - we’ll only restart diesel/electric locomotive projects from the late USSR (if we’re at least capable of that).
        1. 0
          27 October 2023 12: 22
          Quote: UAZ 452
          Replacing imported high-speed trains with domestic ones has never been easier

          China makes trains for the high-speed railway, so perhaps it will sell it to us.
          But he doesn’t make aircraft engines.

          Quote: UAZ 452
          restart diesel/electric locomotive projects from the late USSR (if we are at least capable of this).

          ? We are still coping with diesel/electric locomotives and even Orioles 2/3/4.
          but 160 km/h is not 360.

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  3. +3
    26 October 2023 19: 48
    For today's Russian Federation, it is not about high-speed rail that needs to be planned, but rather the speed on railways needs to be increased to an acceptable 130-150 km per hour. in most areas, first in busier ones. So far, only some central directions have been designed for higher speeds. We must not forget the climate correction when snow drifts and other disturbances are present for a long time. Greater speed is not an end in itself, but increasing speeds to acceptable levels and expanding mobility and processing of cargo flows is economically beneficial, for example: trains with higher speeds than highways, with heavy-duty trucks over long distances, etc. Of course, high-speed lines can be created between nearby megacities, but this is a particular matter and the prerogative of economic conditions and local government... (In the world and in China, high-speed lines are mainly between megacities).
  4. 0
    27 October 2023 01: 20
    Surprisingly, the Russians were among the first to build a railway on the territory of what is now China, and have no experience in the construction of railways. The question arises, where did the experience go? And where are the Russians?
    1. -2
      27 October 2023 12: 07
      Now there are only Russians. Since the construction of the CER you mentioned, the Russians have disappeared somewhere.
    2. +1
      27 October 2023 21: 23
      After the collapse of 1991, the experience of Soviet engineers followed its bearers abroad, since it turned out to be unclaimed in Russia, as well as Russian engineers. The author of these lines designed and built high-speed rail in Europe and then in China, which successfully and pragmatically bought up licenses for basic know-how and poured billions of investments into this industry
  5. 0
    27 October 2023 02: 06
    How will the Chinese or American experience help? Not to mention the fact that the Americans have no experience with this, just talk. There were already articles on it VSM. The conclusions from them are not entirely comforting, not in terms of technical capabilities, but in terms of the adequacy of the officials who pushed this topic.
  6. +2
    27 October 2023 10: 20
    In short, the Chinese are expensive and subsidized, while the States have none at all. That is, Russia should not even try, which is what was done absolutely correctly.
  7. -2
    27 October 2023 15: 40
    What is the difficulty, why high-speed railways were not built in our country in the “fat years” and why is this being seriously discussed at the very top in the “lean years”?

    Both the USA and China (and the entire West) are facing an economic recession. They will go through what we went through in the 90s. Even China will not have enough money to simply operate such a high-tech technology as the HSR.
    I’m not even talking about the USA, everything will be very sad there. In the "quality" of their railway. (ordinary) were able to see everything with their own eyes. Fortunately, technological progress allows it.
    In China, houses have already slowly begun to be demolished. Both new buildings and cities that have stood for many years are ghosts. No one ever lived in these houses. The hope of selling these houses has completely died, and they require maintenance costs. Therefore, it’s easier to demolish it.
    About the same thing awaits the high-speed railway, a network of airfields and a huge fleet of aircraft. The project of a Russian-Chinese wide-body large aircraft has gradually faded away. Air travel will drop significantly. People will not have money, fuel prices will rise. And maintaining the infrastructure will become unprofitable. Which will lead to a decrease in the number of jobs... further in a circle.
    Russia has passed its recession. The Russian economy (unlike the West) is greatly under-monetized, so we can simply repeat what Primakov, Maslyukov, and Gerashchenko did without deep reforms. And we are guaranteed 10%+ growth over 5-7 years. And then the results of the work to separate our (and not only) economy from the Bretton Woods system will come up. It is underway. Maybe not as quickly as we would like, but it is visible, and there are results.
    And the HSR project is one of the system-forming ones for the near future.
  8. -1
    27 October 2023 15: 45
    But neither the American nor the Chinese experience suits us: the American one showed failure, but the Chinese one will show it. We need to develop our experience: take into account the prospects and return on investment, taking into account operating costs. Returns must be considered with a cumulative effect, i.e. take into account non-financial savings.
  9. +1
    27 October 2023 22: 25
    Growing and developing states in need of development built infrastructure transport networks and structures (Roman Empire, Germany in the 20th century, Soviet Union, China at the beginning of the XNUMXst century). Developing countries need a developed transport infrastructure just as the human body needs a circulatory system. The degree of development of the above-mentioned infrastructure is an excellent indicator of the degree and direction of development of the economy of a particular state. You don’t need to put in a thermometer to make a correct diagnosis, just look carefully and ask yourself how and where did the state’s transport infrastructure develop? Why was the construction of the railway tunnel to Sakhalin abandoned shortly before its completion? Just like the construction of the northern railway parallel to the Northern Sea Route was abandoned? Ask yourself questions about planned and unimplemented infrastructure projects and you can find the answers yourself. Even during the times of the former Mongol Empire, its current outskirts could be reached from the then capital sometimes faster than now.
  10. -1
    28 October 2023 10: 03
    In Russia, there is a possibility of combining two approaches: to steal as in the USA, and to build in China - they are almost the best in the world.
  11. 0
    28 October 2023 17: 05
    Small aviation is developed in the USA. That's why the high-speed rail system is stalling there. We have aviation in the paddock, and high-speed rail is only in the European part of the Russian Federation. And the prices are like airplane prices. That is, high-speed rail will be in demand only between cities with a population of over a million.
  12. 0
    29 October 2023 19: 27
    Why do we need some kind of experience - the trains of our railways are already quite fast, and the marching speed can be easily solved by optimizing the schedule - well, and eliminating all sorts of countless crossings
  13. +1
    31 October 2023 15: 03
    Quote: Cyril
    Why any experience - the trains of our railways are already fast enough

    We are talking about speed comparable to an airplane (and for the price of tickets too). But the schedule is like this:
    1. For an airplane, you need to build two 2 airfields.
    2. For a train, you need to build the ENTIRE route.
    And support/repair of the specified railway part.

    Well, that is, this is the construction of a completely new railway (and trains), while airports and planes already exist.

    The specified high-speed railway seems to me NOT NECESSARY if you simply don’t go anywhere, having created infrastructure (for life) locally, or within the immediate reach (for example, along a regular railway line).
  14. 0
    6 November 2023 06: 16
    Chinese or American: which high-speed rail construction experience is more suitable for Russia

    Quote: Viktor Anufriev
    I could not find information in the article about what the difference is between the Chinese and American experience in the construction of high-speed lines.

    Conclusion: American experience in car sharing and aviation (over 1000 km) or Chinese copying (license for train production)

    In total, there will remain a modernized version of the railway track for the “red arrow” (without dedicated tracks) with a branch to the third capital (90s) Novgorod Nizhny

    PS
    It’s strange that the European experience is not a priority for comparison, because they make the trains themselves?