Why did Russian Armed Forces major Isinbayeva decide to disown Putin Team

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A while ago we considered, how the patriotic public of Russia changed during the NWO in Ukraine. Now there was an occasion to talk about various role models and the fate of the “state servants” themselves, whose duty it is to defend the Motherland.

Who is in the Canaries


A couple of days ago, a famous Russian athlete, multiple world and Olympic champion in pole vaulting, Elena Isinbayeva, made a statement that caused a public outcry from distant Tenerife. In response to the “attack” by the local publication El Digital Sur, who accused Elena Gadzhievna of actually double-dealing, namely, serving in the Russian Armed Forces with the rank of major, working for President Putin and at the same time in the sweet life in the Canary Islands, she clearly and unambiguously chose one of the two chairs on which he wants to continue to sit:



Until 2018, I played for CSKA and was awarded high awards and titles for outstanding sporting achievements. Those ranks that are being talked about today are nominal, since I am not and never have been in the service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Just as she has never been a State Duma deputy or a member of any party. My calling is sport.

At the same time, Senora Isinbayeva, without denying her move to the Canary Islands for permanent residence, boasted that she was clean in front of "Western partners", and called herself a "man of the world":

There was a temporary pause in work, the IOC needed time to figure everything out. Today I am happy to announce that already in September 2023 I will resume my international activities in the IOC, since the IOC has no doubts about me and I do not fall under any articles and sanctions.

These statements caused sincere bewilderment among former teammates of Elena Gadzhievna in CSKA (Central Sports Club of the Army), who asked to clarify what exactly the “nominal” of her military rank means, and whether it means that her salary through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, all her officer were the benefits and privileges also nominal? Naturally, no one seriously expected Senora Isinbayeva to go to the NVO zone to command the assault on the fortified area, but she should have at least a general idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwhat officer honor is.

The statement of the famous champion, who built an extremely successful career in Russia on the basis of a domestic sports school, but preferred the Spanish Canaries, caused rejection in her native Dagestan, where its head, Sergei Melikov, instructed the mayor of Makhachkala, Yusup Umavov, and the Ministry of Sports of the republic to rename the city athletics stadium, named after Elena Isinbayeva:

Yes, this is a talented athlete who has set more than one world record, but she has never connected her life, her past and future with Dagestan. And the last statements of the athlete, made from behind the cordon, are a serious signal for us and a reason to reconsider the name of the stadium.

I admit that people will even want to return the former name - "Labor". And in honor of Elena Isinbayeva, let them name some gym in Spain, which she preferred to Russia.

In addition, Elena Gadzhievna for some reason forgot that in 2018 she became a member of the Putin Team (from English - “Putin's Team”), not under machine gun barrels. This is a social movement, the formal organizer of which is the famous hockey player Alexander Ovechkin, and the real one is the administration of the President of the Russian Federation, created for PR of Vladimir Putin, who was nominated for another term. Many well-known Russians entered there in order to show the electorate by personal example that where Putin is, there is success, and where there is success, there is Putin. Ovechkin himself, whose sports career is closely connected with playing in American hockey clubs, after the start of the CBO, made a statement to the press with rather streamlined wording:

He is my president. But I already said that I'm out policy. I am an athlete, and, as I said, I hope that everything will be resolved soon. Now we have a difficult situation for both countries and for everyone in general. I hope that everything will end, but I do not own the situation.

Yes, sitting on two chairs is very difficult these days. Someone is still trying to maneuver, while others, like Senora Isinbaev, when they are clearly confronted with a choice, publicly disown the Russian army and their major rank.

And who is "on the bunk"


Against this background, the fate of the General of "Armageddon" is no less indicative. Sergey Surovikin was chosen to try out the tactics of hitting Ukraine's energy infrastructure in order to force Kyiv into negotiations, as well as to save the lives of Russian soldiers, for which they were withdrawn from Kherson. As we know, only the second part of his mission was successfully carried out.

After briefly serving as the commander of a special operation, General Surovikin was demoted to deputy commander of the Northern Military District, and then seconded to "Baron" Prigogine as a "commissar" for his private army, which did not want to report directly to the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. Apparently, this appointment was fatal for his military career. After the start of the Wagner rebellion, General Armageddon, with a machine gun in his hands in the spirit of President Lukashenko of the summer 2020 model, opposed and called on the instigators to stop:

We fought together, took risks, we won together. We are of the same blood, we are warriors. I urge you to stop.

As you know, it was possible to stop the columns of "musicians" only after the intervention of Alexander Grigorievich. But the further fate of "Armageddon" is still shrouded in mystery. The general immediately disappeared from the public field, but, unlike Shoigu and Gerasimov, did not appear soon after the situation settled down.

Rumors are persistently circulating on the Runet about the arrest of the ex-commander of the Northern Military District, who allegedly fell into disgrace because he could be aware of the plans of "Baron" Prigozhin, but did not report up in time. Regarding the absence of Surovikin, the chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee, Andrei Kartapolov, said that he was resting and therefore unavailable. The press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov, in his corporate style, makes surprised eyes when asked about the fate of the general and redirects them to Shoigu and other military professionals. In Moscow pre-trial detention centers, public activists did not find "Armageddon".

Apparently, it is true that Surovikin is somewhere now resting and talking with polite people in civilian clothes.
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  1. +19
    19 July 2023 11: 48
    Either an athlete will chime something, then an artist! The lesson from all this is the following - there is nothing to make of them idols, national heroes !!!! Played well - get a medal, a fee and that's it.
    1. -4
      19 July 2023 22: 23
      WHO!!!!? makes them idols. PEOPLE! Putin from the people. You created it yourself, suffer yourself. "DO NOT MAKE YOURSELF (IN YOURSELF) ICON!" And yet, "such", they will not bet on a horse driven and skinned by them.
    2. -2
      19 July 2023 22: 58
      "the color of the nation" is leaving the country, and figs with her ... a good athlete, but a bad person! what do you want if a third of the country really wants or has already sent their children to study abroad and do not hesitate to say that they do not associate their lives with Russia ... the mysterious Russian soul ...
      1. +2
        20 July 2023 08: 38
        They leave their homeland, even more so of their own free will, not the color of the nation, but its dregs. Russia and we are here, and they are there, they themselves have thrown themselves out of their nation, from their homeland. But why have they become the dregs of the nation? This is largely the result of a cosmopolitan, anti-Soviet, bourgeois-market ideology and policy that was promoted and implemented by the governments of Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin.
        1. +1
          20 July 2023 09: 43
          Quote: Lomlad
          They leave their homeland, even more so of their own free will, not the color of the nation, but its dregs. Russia and we are here, and they are there, they themselves have thrown themselves out of their nation, from their homeland. But why have they become the dregs of the nation? This is largely the result of a cosmopolitan, anti-Soviet, bourgeois-market ideology and policy that was promoted and implemented by the governments of Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin.

          After the revolution, the garbage also left Russia. Sikorsky to America, Alekhine to Portugal ... And those who recklessly stayed disappeared in the camps.
          1. 0
            21 July 2023 11: 49
            Isn't Obama shitting in elevators?
      2. +2
        20 July 2023 13: 23
        ...and also rest in enemy Turkey, where Russia sent planes to put out fires.
        And in gratitude, Russia will soon again receive a stab in the back from Erdogan !!!
  2. +8
    19 July 2023 11: 53
    Yes. Putin recruits none of those people into his team. Maybe now it will be more selective, otherwise such a team will definitely bring him by the hands to the ICC, like Milosevic in his time.
    1. +6
      19 July 2023 23: 25
      The ruler's mind is first judged by what kind of people he brings closer to himself; if these are devoted and capable people, then one can always be sure of his wisdom, for he knew how to recognize their abilities and keep their devotion. If they are not such, then they will also conclude about the sovereign accordingly, for he has already committed the first mistake by choosing bad assistants.

      Nicolo Machiavelli ("The Emperor")
  3. +5
    19 July 2023 11: 54
    It's amazing how many traitors have divorced in Russia during the 30 years of liberal rule, and how it will be necessary to clean Russia - the Motherland after the end of the war in Ukraine.
    How could it be imagined during the Second World War or in the USSR that traitors would crawl out in batches and run over the hill ... During the Second World War, such reptiles were also caught by the verdict of the tribunal - for servants, either a gallows in the square, or 25 years of camps in sunny Magadan .. And what to do now with these reptiles, this is a big question ... But, obviously, the first thing to do is to deprive the state trough, from which these figures have been fed and fed for all 30 years .. The rest, then you can choose ..
    1. +11
      19 July 2023 12: 20
      The saddest thing about this is that such a two-faced policy continues, they are trying to cram athletes into international competitions under a white rag, in the sports news, NHL and UEFA games (enemy countries!)
      1. -6
        19 July 2023 18: 52
        Quote: Vladimir80
        The saddest thing about this is that such a two-faced policy continues, they are trying to cram athletes into international competitions under a white rag, in the sports news, NHL and UEFA games (enemy countries!)

        Why don’t you like the NHL? It is maximally distanced from politics, unlike UEFA and the IOC. In addition, all over the world Russia is considered an aggressor, hence all the sanctions
    2. +10
      19 July 2023 13: 11
      how many traitors divorced in Russia

      Why are they all immediately traitors? People do exactly what they have been accustomed to for a long time and diligently - they must take care of themselves first of all, because the state has openly declared more than once that it doesn’t care about us, they themselves, everything themselves. Other than you and your loved ones, the rest don't care about you. And now - it is not clear on what grounds it requires loyalty from everyone .. But has it given us at least something in order to have the right to this loyalty?

      That's what, for example, I owe to the Soviet government - I understand very clearly. For everything, absolutely everything that I have - I received from her. But today I don’t owe anything, because apart from the constant obiralova and hemorrhoids, I don’t see anything from her .. So what kind of obligations can I have then?

      No - those who all these years were fed from the sovereign's boobs and now went into denial - of course, traitors. And the rest of the 95% of the population, who did not take part in this blessed process?
    3. +12
      19 July 2023 14: 40
      Quote: The Truth
      It's amazing how many traitors divorced in Russia over 30 years of liberal rule

      Seriously? Yes, absolutely nothing surprising, betrayal is elevated to a kind of cult, the embodiment of which was the corresponding center in Yekaterinburg.
      1. +6
        19 July 2023 20: 54
        Exactly. Until we publicly condemn the activities of Yeltsin and Gorbachev, it will be so. Everything that is happening now is the result of their activities. Because if we do not condemn, then we approve. All these artists, athletes and other figures follow the precepts of E and G. But none of them listens to propagandists, this does not help. There is a kind of duality here.
      2. +2
        20 July 2023 13: 27
        ... betrayal was elevated to a kind of cult, the embodiment of which was the corresponding center in Yekaterinburg ... which is financed by the state and the GDP is still a fan of Yeltsin, the traitor No. 2 after Gorbachev !!!
    4. -5
      19 July 2023 19: 42
      During the Second World War, such reptiles were caught and by the verdict of the tribunal - for servants or a gallows in the square,

      I didn’t really understand: did the bastards also have servants?
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    5. +4
      19 July 2023 22: 30
      One big, and the main question, rather, a task: DO NOT LET THEY STEAL THE ELECTIONS! Elect those who have gone through the war, proven ones, for whom comrades can vouch for. By the way, to put in all leading places only after the guarantee of time-tested people. Who will be responsible on a par with their protégés.
  4. +16
    19 July 2023 12: 23
    I’ve never understood Putin’s current manner - where did he get the idea that if someone, let’s say well, chirps on a violin or throws a hammer there, then he will be just as good at governing the state as a deputy, and even more so - able to represent popular aspirations

    And so - why these indignations? For 30 years you yourself have been driving people in that the main thing in life is money and personal well-being! The rest - do not care. Why be surprised that in a difficult moment for you, they handed you over like glass containers, choosing themselves, and not you? After all, everything is according to your precepts, no?
    1. +17
      19 July 2023 13: 02
      You misunderstand "Putin's current style." He absolutely does not believe that "if someone is good at playing the violin or throwing a hammer there, then he will be just as good at governing the state as a deputy." From deputies, and from many other high-level persons, it is not required to "govern the state". They are required to do what the "genius" came up with and at the same time look attractive to the "main masses of the common people" (those who are rather weak with knowledge and understanding of what is really required and who eat the propaganda picture). This is how all sorts of media people allegedly appear "in power" - athletes, showmen, etc. And not law-making and management professionals - lawyers, economists, financiers, top managers. And vice versa, if someone suddenly starts to really manage well, then he becomes dangerous - this is a potential competitor. The question may arise who is better - "brilliant" or this new one, who really manages well.
      1. +11
        19 July 2023 14: 06
        The Supreme Soviet of the USSR - also, as we remember, did not consist of professional lawyers. For the deputies-should convey to the authorities the aspirations and demands of the people, demanding from them the implementation of these in the form of laws. And controlling how effectively it is carried out. That is why there were reindeer herders, grain growers, turners, and so on. That is, people who really understand how and how people live. They are straight out of it. And between sessions - continuing to work at their jobs.

        But the current deputy riffraff has nothing to do with the people, having absolutely no idea what is happening in ordinary life. Moreover - and not wanting to have this idea. They are by no means professional lawyers either. So how can THIS be trusted to make laws that directly affect millions of people??
  5. +9
    19 July 2023 12: 36
    boasted that she was clean in front of "Western partners", and called herself a "man of the world":
    laughing
    Yes, she is stupid, her face is not disfigured by intellect. She jumps and runs well, that's where her virtues end.

    Yes. Putin recruits none of those people into his team.

    The administration is trying, there are also enough of them.

    Those ranks that are being talked about today are nominal, since I am not and never have been in the service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    Yes of course. salary of a senior officer of the Armed Forces, pension, benefits.

    Why did Russian Armed Forces major Isinbayeva decide to disown Putin Team

    Sergei Marzhetsky, an article about the "hard" fate of Isinbayeva, what does General Surovikin have to do with it?
    Does this topic bother you? Now in modern Russian journalism it is fashionable to "kick" who is pointed out in time.
    You have already been noticed in the Kremlin!!! There was a line of people like that.

    could be aware of the plans of "Baron" Prigogine,

    Prigozhin is a man and a fighter, but we have only one “baron”, he is also called “parquet”, he is very similar in habits. hi
    1. +2
      19 July 2023 13: 17
      Quote: kapitan92
      You have already been noticed in the Kremlin!!! There was a line of people like that.

      This is unlikely)) Because there really is a queue. Yes, and, so far, none of the military officers has become modern Simonov. They didn’t even appoint (where they are up to Simonov, in fact). And they are like climbing out of their skin ...
  6. +8
    19 July 2023 12: 52
    The mechanism of mass spiritual defeat has been operating since the 90s, the authorities do not consider it necessary to stop it. Its basis is a non-linear element - the difference in material support. Great temptation works effectively. On TV:

    ... After all, you deserve it,

    This is a deliberate corruption of the young. Would it be surprising if schoolchildren who received medals in mathematics in Japan were eventually bought over the hill? Openness is a beautiful word, thieves are very happy with it.
  7. +3
    19 July 2023 12: 57
    You can meet many more stories on the Internet, about many more significant people.
    Chubais, Prokhorov, Abramovich, Pugacheva...

    The only conclusion is that the media and the authorities calmly switch from praising someone to condemning and vice versa.
    Change shoes on the fly. There is no smell of "truth and justice" that was regularly voiced before by the top. There are only the interests of the untouchable elite, period.
    For their sake, you can drag Amer’s scammer Butova into the Duma with a steam locomotive, and call the killer of pilots a partner, and ban all those who disagree ...
    1. +3
      19 July 2023 16: 37
      In general, it’s not right to indiscriminately award orders and medals to all media figures. Only those who clearly and ambiguously spoke out for Russia do not have accounts and real estate abroad, and the children, if any, live in Russia.
      1. 0
        20 July 2023 06: 32
        ))) Yeah.
        spoke out for Russia - immediately a medal.
        does not have accounts and real estate abroad - the order and oblique views of the authorities
        children, if any, live in Russia - a second medal.

        And all sorts of successes, achievements, talent - to the side.
        You're right)))
  8. +15
    19 July 2023 13: 12
    The authorities themselves, having started negotiations with Kiev on the fourth day after the start of the NWO, in fact disavowed the goals of the NWO, declared as the denazification and demilitarization of all Ukraine, i.e. de facto recognizing the beginning of the NWO as a mistake. And the course of the NWO led to a colossal militarization and nazification of Ukraine. Those. it turns out that if I am for the NWO, what am I for the nazification and militarization of Ukraine? The issue of SVO has essentially turned into a question of loyalty to the government. What kind of power is this that requires loyalty in an ultimatum order and almost under the threat of criminal prosecution. By the way, on June 1.06.23, XNUMX, a deputy from the EDR, Zatulin, publicly called the SVO a mistake. Can I do that? Or will they put you in?
    1. +6
      19 July 2023 13: 37
      Quote from Pembo
      Or will they put you in?

      Of course they will! Only about this, unfortunately, no one, except for a narrow circle of people, will know. No political points for you, no gesheft.
    2. +12
      19 July 2023 13: 42
      The point is not that Isinbayeva disowned the Putin Team or somehow reacted to the NWO, but that she abandoned her country and people in favor of material well-being and “spit in the well.”
    3. +5
      19 July 2023 14: 14
      You won’t envy the deputies either - there, Gurulev, published the appeal of General Popov, so, probably, he received a scolding, so after the “state of emergency” on the Crimean bridge he made an angry appeal to his fellow citizens, indignant that instead of rallying around all as one, denouncing the terrorist Kiev regime, and these will be limited, they dared to ask questions in their comments - why did this happen, and for the second time, where is the advertised guard, by which the mouse will not slip?
      I hope that the deflection was credited to him, and part of the guilt for taking out rubbish from the hut with Popov was forgiven.
      In general, our government (real power) has the ideal of parliament - the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, with the formation of a deputy corps according to quotas from milkmaids, machine operators, astronauts (now - athletes, artists, well, the same astronauts), etc. With uncontested elections from one candidate who votes unanimously even on very dubious bills, such as the transfer of Crimea, if the initiative comes from the Central Committee (now the AP). It must be admitted that this ideal has almost been achieved.
      1. -1
        19 July 2023 16: 23
        What? Under the USSR, there was just competition for places, and competition is development. And there were alternative options in the USSR, you are exaggerating everything.
        How could there be no alternative in the Supreme Council, if it was just the opposite. Everyone competed and tried to pull the blanket over themselves.
        1. +3
          19 July 2023 21: 36
          As? Can you elaborate: where and when in the post-war decades (maybe it was earlier, at the dawn of Soviet power) there were elections to the Supreme Soviet of the USSR from more than one candidate? Well, I would like to hear at least about the only episode in decades when the Supreme Council, consisting of people's deputies, did not obediently wave any nonsense concocted by the nomenklatura officials from the Central Committee? Maybe someone objected to the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR (forgive me for repeating myself, but a very topical topic) objected?
          What kind of competition are you talking about? Sitting each other up, pulling the blanket over yourself in terms of getting an apartment, an honorary title, etc. - this is not the kind of competition that contributes to the development of society. These intrigues and squabbles under the rug would rather ruin him, which happened. And now there are enough fights of spiders in the bank, the result will be the same.
  9. +5
    19 July 2023 13: 43
    Way to go, Lena. Shoigu would give a general. And this is not a title, this is happiness.
    1. -3
      19 July 2023 13: 45
      Maybe it's just not that cheap? Is this aspect being considered?

      And for the comment about the general five points)))
  10. +3
    19 July 2023 13: 44
    Why did Russian Armed Forces major Isinbayeva decide to disown Putin Team

    Ceiling. You can't even jump higher than a major with a pole.
    1. +3
      19 July 2023 13: 49
      Quote from Voo
      You can't even jump higher than a major with a pole.

      Come on! She, as an athlete, Olympic champion and member, would have been given automatic exams at the academy)
  11. +12
    19 July 2023 14: 12
    Well, it's funny and scary. When athletes marched at competitions under a white flag and the demonstration of state symbols of Russia was prohibited, the president of the country said with a smile - What's wrong here? After all, you and I know what country they are from, and that's enough. When Russian athletes were pinched by all and sundry, the officials did not see anything wrong with this, and then they suddenly attacked with condemnations. Of course Isinbayeva is still the same lady, but who licked her and promoted her? Why not ask these? To deprive of a title, to cut down payments. Measures of influence are enough, but they are unlikely to go for it. They will only make noise and everything will return to normal.
    1. +9
      19 July 2023 15: 47
      Of course Isinbayeva is still the same lady, but who licked her and promoted her

      and the people don’t watch the Olympics (competitions of pharmacists), don’t watch the European “football” championships (millionaires from “sports” entertain a poor crowd), don’t read news about another actor-actor (who were buried behind the fence of the cemetery 300 years ago)? there is also the fault of the whole society, which has created idols for itself from people of dubious occupations ...
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  12. +6
    19 July 2023 15: 41
    Well, what can I tell you about Sakhalin ... Our significant athletes in CSKA have always received military ranks. Here is our famous gymnast Svetlana Khorkina - lieutenant colonel of the reserve. True, she is for Russia, a member of EdRosov. However, however.....
    Such an idiotic practice has been going on since the time of Comrade. Stalin. Why spend the military budget on officers who have nothing to do with the army is incomprehensible to me. And a simple lieutenant rises to the rank of major and needs to plow for 25 years, and even in the backyards of the country.
    1. +7
      19 July 2023 20: 32
      Quote: Alexey Lan
      Here is our famous gymnast Svetlana Khorkina - lieutenant colonel of the reserve. True, she is for Russia, a member of EdRosov.

      By the way, since 2018 she is a colonel!
      And no one bothers to be for Russia, a member of the Core and give birth in 2005 in a Los Angeles clinic to a child, a US citizen.
      1. +5
        19 July 2023 21: 30
        Of course no one interferes. However, when he goes to the USA to give birth, this testifies, to put it mildly, to disbelief in Russia. And if you do not believe, then the path to government agencies should be ordered. Work in the private sector.
        1. +5
          19 July 2023 21: 34
          Quote: Alexey Lan
          However, when he goes to the USA to give birth, this testifies, to put it mildly, to disbelief in Russia. And if you do not believe, then the path to government agencies should be ordered. Work in the private sector.

          However, after a couple of years she became a State Duma deputy from Edra. !!!
          1. 0
            21 July 2023 13: 00
            Yes, if you rummage through the tops, many spouses, children, grandchildren with citizenship or residence permits of NATO countries will be revealed, so what?

            And these people forbid picking your nose!
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  14. +6
    19 July 2023 17: 30
    That's what, for example, I owe to the Soviet government - I understand very clearly. For everything, absolutely everything that I have - I received from her. But today I don’t owe anything, because apart from the constant ripping off and gemrroy, I don’t see anything from her .. So what kind of obligations can I have then?

    The Soviet government gave me free education, treatment, and even in 97 managed to get a hostel on the fragments of the USSR, which gave my future family a start in life. Now they give birth for money, go to war for money, wild interest on loans in 2000 and 2010 offers and gave me a new Russia.

    And so - why these indignations? For 30 years you yourself have been driving people in that the main thing in life is money and personal well-being! The rest - do not care. Why be surprised that in a difficult moment for you, they handed you over like glass containers, choosing themselves, and not you? After all, everything is according to your precepts, no?

    I agree with this above

    The Supreme Soviet of the USSR - also, as we remember, did not consist of professional lawyers. For the deputies-should convey to the authorities the aspirations and demands of the people, demanding from them the implementation of these in the form of laws. And controlling how effectively it is carried out. That is why there were reindeer herders, grain growers, turners, and so on. That is, people who really understand how and how people live. They are straight out of it. And between sessions - continuing to work at their jobs.

    But the current deputy sh * shera - has nothing to do with the people, absolutely not imagining what happens in ordinary life. Moreover - and not wanting to have this idea. They are by no means professional lawyers either. So how can THIS be trusted to make laws that directly affect millions of people??

    People from the people were in the Duma and information went directly from the people to the authorities, now I don’t observe this
    PS: it's time to collect the stones and they appear in all their glory in these Spanish-type inhabitants. We are reaping the benefits, alas!
  15. +8
    19 July 2023 18: 02
    In addition, Elena Gadzhievna for some reason forgot that in 2018 she became a member of the Putin Team (from English - “Putin's Team”), not under machine gun barrels.

    Whom he recruited into his team, they turned out. Nothing to blame the mirror ...
  16. +6
    19 July 2023 18: 06
    this is all a consequence of a vicious and stupid policy of conferring military ranks and awards on athletes who have nothing to do with the army. Formally listed in the sports society, clubs CSKA, SKA or in the dynamo society, it means that he must have an officer rank. This has been going on since the days of the USSR. It was ridiculous and absurd then, and even more so now. Now all clubs are professional. They have their owners and sponsors. Athletes in them have contracts and receive not frail fees. Why on earth should they be awarded ranks if they are not involved in the service, they do not have a military education. They don't even take an oath. Well, at least they didn’t think of assigning ranks to legionnaires. This is just some kind of nonsense and discrediting the rank of officer. So we get the fullest from the so-called officers. There are no special questions for Isambayeva herself. When it was beneficial for her to have a title, she did not mind and used it. Now it began to interfere with her and she renounced him. She is just a woman and wants to live without problems. Why blame her. She did not assign these titles to herself.
    1. +5
      19 July 2023 21: 42
      If we received the Defense Ministry of the army general without having served a day before, then give the major a jumper - the little things in life against the background of other trash that was done with the army, and long before Shoigu, and even Serdyukov.
  17. 0
    19 July 2023 18: 27
    Russia is rich in everything and traitors too. From Kievan Rus to Putin's traitors are innumerable. Who hasn't been a traitor? Sovereigns were not traitors. A system in which the Sovereign cannot be a traitor is called feudal. Especially many traitors divorced under the Bolsheviks. From peasants from a remote village and workers from a small factory to famous artists and top military and political leaders. Something began to improve when Gorbachev turned out to be a traitor, but now everything is back to normal. The boyars are bad, the tsar is kind, but the people are silent.
  18. +6
    19 July 2023 21: 08
    The Putin Team itself has long distanced itself from Russia. If the guarantor had stopped pretending to believe in Minsk 1,2,3,4,5, then the Friedmans and the Avens would have started to shuffle in London not now, but 9 years ago. And the CBO is proceeding in some way incomprehensible to common sense, but optimal for saving the dollar pyramid. The second oldest saw a safe object, perked up and did what she loved - in the middle of a brothel about morality to lament.
  19. +8
    19 July 2023 21: 21
    I would like to digress from specifically Elena Isinbayeva and raise the question more broadly: what is the point in CSKA at all? What is the purpose of putting on already established, well-known athletes, to the formation of which the army had nothing to do, shoulder straps, distribution of amusing titles? And then we are surprised that such disguised majors and higher rank jumpers, swimmers, runners and other acrobats, do not feel any reverence towards the RF Armed Forces, in which they supposedly serve.
    Now, if our athletes performed on the international arena, just as citizens of Russia, and not military personnel, what would change? Our army has acquired so many tasks that are not characteristic of it, that it is not surprising that it copes with its main function - to fight, in a completely unsatisfactory way. But our majors jump high with a pole.
  20. +4
    19 July 2023 22: 03
    Athletes should do - sports, politicians - politics. But both need to choose which side they will be on after they finish their careers. In the case of Isinbayeva, money and the prospects of a "beautiful and free" life won. We don't know how it will end, or snot on the border of "forgive me, etc" or her transformation into a "vicious dog". The second, most likely, remember everyone who left and began to pour mud on Russia for the right to live there. Isinbayeva made her choice. It’s a pity that I once supported her like the whole country.
  21. -3
    19 July 2023 22: 19
    The article is sucked from the finger, nothing bad was said. I still remembered Ovechkin ... Yes, he brought much more benefit to the country than this journalist with a small letter, which is essentially an empty place
  22. +3
    19 July 2023 23: 03
    It is possible that our Supreme "character is Nordic, seasoned." It is also possible that "he maintains good relations with his fellow workers." It is also likely that he "impeccably fulfills his official duty." And also everyone knows that he is a "great athlete." But what you can’t say is that “he was not noticed in discrediting his connections”! What is another example (from a long list of such connections) is the incident with the "major" E. Isinbayeva.
  23. +3
    20 July 2023 00: 16
    Well, finally they unblocked me. Unfortunately, the "color of the nation", in the overwhelming majority, turned out to be the color of childish surprise.
  24. 0
    20 July 2023 00: 30
    The IOC forced him to make a denunciatory statement against the Special Ops if he wanted to gain access to his position in the IOC.
  25. +6
    20 July 2023 00: 58
    This is an old problem of Russian sports inherited from the USSR. What the hell is she a major of the Russian army, if she wears a military uniform only to receive incomprehensible awards and privileges. The major has not pulled the army strap for a single day. This is just a discrediting of the army, this is a spit in those who pull this strap all their lives, having risen in the end only to the rank of major at best, and who lived with his family in some kind of outback in military camps. This naturally applies not only to Isinbayeva. And what is Fetisov better, or Tretiak. Yes, all these captain-athletes, colonels who did not sniff army life, should be abolished. And then there will be no such collisions as this undoubtedly deserved and respected athlete (but not a major). And then you won't have to blush and numb to hide your undeserved epaulettes of lieutenant-colonels. And the Army will not become weaker from this. And if you knew how many people with big and small stars on shoulder straps are fed from army sports societies. Especially from CSKA. That's where the reserve for SVO!
    1. +4
      20 July 2023 07: 59
      Simply, in Soviet times, sport was, so to speak, amateur and existed for the improvement of the nation, but as a professional, both business and the show were not meant. Accordingly, outstanding athletes had to be supported somehow. So they were listed in various positions in the army and production. This is a relic of the past. The problem is that we left socialism, but we didn’t really come to capitalism, and so in many ways.
  26. +1
    20 July 2023 01: 06
    The author himself points to the variety of ways of media promotion of the elite of the Russian Federation, as the political and financial public life of the country instead of boring congresses, meetings and labor exploits of the past. Advertising is now our everything, and behind it is a social vacuum and personal interests.
  27. -1
    20 July 2023 01: 33
    Why are you all attached to her? She has been living in Europe for many years. Owns an apartment and two villas. So what? Deputies and their relatives own ten or twenty through second cousins ​​and nephews. Not so long ago, there was a scandal when some mayor from some Muhosk rented a 50-seater business jet and took the entire mayor's office to celebrate his birthday in Italy for the weekend. And here are some two unfortunate villas. G. question
    1. -3
      20 July 2023 02: 42
      Quote: AC130 Ganship
      Why are you all attached to her?

      Z - envy.
  28. +3
    20 July 2023 03: 49
    An athlete cannot be out of politics a priori.
    Isinbayeva will obviously soon begin to throw mud at our country ... you have to pay for permanent residence in Spain ... and the owners demand to pay a betrayal of Russia.
    This is a common practice in the West for our athletes.
  29. 0
    20 July 2023 03: 51
    Quote: AC130 Ganship
    when some mayor from some Muhoska rented a 50-seater business jet and took the whole mayor's office to celebrate his birthday in Italy for the weekend. A

    Are you the mayor?
    Where are Billy's proofs?
  30. +4
    20 July 2023 06: 58
    Corruption, the main feature of today's athletes, artists and others ... where big money is spinning.
    It’s time for the Ministry of Defense to stop hanging shoulder straps on such specimens, they give out generals to 27-year-old girls who have not served in the army for a day, like the minister himself, the same parsley in the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
  31. 0
    20 July 2023 07: 47
    Quote: kapitan92
    Quote: Alexey Lan
    Here is our famous gymnast Svetlana Khorkina - lieutenant colonel of the reserve. True, she is for Russia, a member of EdRosov.

    By the way, since 2018 she is a colonel!
    And no one bothers to be for Russia, a member of the Core and give birth in 2005 in a Los Angeles clinic to a child, a US citizen.

    Do you mean recently gave birth?
    Russians like her are either following in the footsteps of Bout or in the footsteps of Bakatin.
  32. -2
    20 July 2023 08: 49
    Some unhealthy excitement around Surovikin. Lost from the media? Come on. I personally saw him only twice in the entire NWO. The first is the exit from Kherson, the second is the rebellion of the Wagners. All. Calm down about this.
  33. +4
    20 July 2023 09: 10
    The described story is another and clear confirmation of the natural consequence of the existing system of personal devotion, eyewash and window dressing ...
  34. 0
    20 July 2023 10: 02
    The IOC has many members. In the literal and figurative sense. Specifically, it is said about Isinbayeva that she represents Russia. The application from the National Olympic Committee must be quite official.
  35. +2
    20 July 2023 10: 28
    Quote: ComradIgor
    Some unhealthy excitement around Surovikin. .. I personally saw him only twice in the entire NWO.

    And he also built the defense lines of the southern front. For the command of which General Popov was given a hat. And it also lit up during the vazation of Artemovsk. The only successful offensive operation to date, which cleared the Ukrainian army of pre-war professionals and almost reached the NATO-trained reserve, and also made it possible to prepare an offensive in the north. Some general did more?.
  36. +3
    20 July 2023 15: 22
    In the camp of patriots, by and large, there are two types of patriots, one is those who are for power, always ready to support it, and therefore favored by the authorities, because the support of the authorities is the source of their comfortable existence, in fact, as time has shown, this is the fifth column. Another kind of patriots, these are those on whom the country rests, they defend the country, criticize the authorities, point out mistakes, often hotly, making them public, and since they hate and despise flattery, they are rarely successful. Examples of Isimbaev on the one hand, the opposite of Prigogine. Of course, there is no extremely clear picture, people are not perfect, but somewhere like that.
  37. +2
    20 July 2023 20: 08
    From the IOC it is necessary to withdraw, to deprive of military ranks, in a few years the athlete deserved in the past will remain naked. The world will find other idols, and without her country she is zero and there is no way to call her ..
  38. +2
    20 July 2023 23: 09
    And we'll end up like this...
    While different things come up abroad, RUSSIA throws out an ETHNICALLY RUSSIAN girl who came from Uzbekistan and gave birth to a child in Russia, back to Uzbekistan by court order, because she didn’t check in ....
    Putin protects Russians - everywhere and everywhere? Right?
    Even the SVO to protect the Russians. And here.....
    Maybe it's the Ukrainian court?

    According to the law, everything is correct - the girl violated, and she should be deported, but besides the law, there is also a human dimension, ”Elena Alshanskaya, head of the Volunteers to Help Orphans Foundation, told the VZGLYAD newspaper. commenting on the decision of the authorities to expel from the country a Russian citizen of Uzbekistan with a baby born in Russia.....

    Peskov urged not to touch Isinbayeva. The hand washes the hand, and here - not Isinbayeva, but simply Russian.
    Maybe he will also call on the court to protect, and not throw the Russians out of the country?
    From the podium one thing, in life - a pitchfork in the side ...?
    Where are the defenders of the Russian world from the State Duma? They did it, the law was not adopted. And the bellies are already on the tables.
    Solovyov and Skabeeva's teeth were worn down to the gums, but what's the point?
  39. +1
    21 July 2023 19: 10
    Why is Major Isinbayeva of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
    ??????????????

    - the country's champion has no analogues in "world-class" jumping.
    I liked Chubais more: both the time of "landing" and "my own ammunition", probably in dollars ... bully
  40. +1
    21 July 2023 21: 26
    Get away from a woman, this is her life, and she herself determines it. Yes, it’s ugly to deny your former life, but after all, everyone already understands that the Ministry of Defense paid her for jumps, and not for military exploits, and the military rank was stuck for the glory of the armed forces. She is not a traitor, like all sorts of Gasparov-Gaidar-Khodorkovichs, she does not stigmatize, does not vilify the Russian Federation and does not bring evil, and this is already a sign of decency. What more do you want from her?
    1. -1
      24 July 2023 08: 56
      That's right, the Ministry of Defense was well promoted on its records, so who else owes whom ..
      How much they spent on her from the budget is ridiculous even in comparison with her personal earnings at international competitions and participation in advertising, she followed herself
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  42. -1
    24 July 2023 08: 54
    So many ultra patriots here...
    They have already stuck to Isinbayeva, oh, the poor Ministry of Defense spent money with his pennies on her, but Profit received from her world records is incomparable ...
    Isinbayeva is an example of an adequate person who has done much more for the country than the entire top of the government and thanks to her for an adequate position in her own way.
    And your vaunted Ovechkin is also silent, they will all be silent, their careers are important to them and not pseudo-successes on the world map ...
  43. +2
    25 July 2023 16: 55
    All these protrusions come from too high incomes. Moreover, it should be noted that there are no actors with great talent. There are no Nikulins and Tikhonovs. You can list a thousand other film and stage artists whom no one really knows, but the whole family lives abroad.
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