Does Russia need a second wave of mobilization?

On September 21, 2022, President Putin nevertheless decided to conduct a partial mobilization in the RF Armed Forces, during which more than 300 reservists were called up. This was a reflex reaction to the grave consequences of the forced "regrouping" from the Kharkov region. The decision, half a year late, made it possible to prevent the already planned catastrophe on the Southern Front, stabilizing the situation for a while, but, alas, it did not solve all the problems.

When it comes to triarii

The bravura reports of the federal media and the victorious reports of Mr. Prigozhin from Artemovsk, who was freed at the cost of the lives of twenty thousand Russian attack aircraft, of which half are professional soldiers, and the other are former criminals, form a somewhat incorrect picture of what is happening. Yevgeny Viktorovich himself is trying to explain the meaning of the “Bakhmut meat grinder” by saying that this is how his PMC bought time so that the Russian army, battered in battles, had the opportunity to take a breath, mobilize and recover. Say, it was for this, and not for the sake of his own career as the future “savior of the Fatherland”, that many months of frontal assaults on this fortified area were going on. Unfortunately, things are much more complicated.

The problem lies in the difference in the approaches of the General Staffs of Ukraine and Russia, which are faced with fundamentally different militarypolitical tasks. We have proclaimed a special operation with limited goals to help the Donbass and some kind of national security, they have an all-out war with the aim of reaching at least the borders of 1991 and, possibly, with the subsequent annexation of the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kuban regions. Goals and objectives so different in scale determine the ways to achieve them.

Not everyone understands that the Ukrainian General Staff for the previous fifteen months preferred to fight mainly with the forces of Teroborona, saving the core of the cadre army. Sitting in the fortified areas and pumped up with anti-Russian propaganda, even the not-too-well-trained Ukrainian teroboronists demonstrated the ability to hold out steadfastly for a long time. Kyiv used the time gained to retrain its professional army according to NATO standards and to train new reserves. These fresh forces have not yet entered the battle, waiting for the order to start a counteroffensive. Our situation is exactly the opposite.

The first blow to the most combat-ready units and divisions of the Russian army was dealt at the very beginning of the NMD, when the elite of the Airborne Forces and the MTR were thrown into a meat grinder near Kiev, Mariupol and Kharkov, where they suffered painful losses. After the political decision was made to withdraw all troops from the north-east of Ukraine, the task was clearly set to focus only on the liberation of Donbass and holding at least part of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov, and then reach a peace agreement. There, in continuous frontal assaults on the Ukrainian fortified areas, heavy losses were suffered by the fighters of the People's Militia of the LDNR, who suddenly turned out to be better prepared than our contract soldiers, as well as paratroopers and marines in unsuccessful assaults on Ugledar.

The result of “implementation of the goals and objectives of the NMD ahead of schedule” was the first, alas, successful counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region, and then the second - in the Kherson region, which ended for us leaving the regional center of the Russian Federation, the city of Kherson, and, even worse, the strategically important bridgehead in the Right-Bank Ukraine, from where the road to Nikolaev and Odessa opened, the liberation of which could radically change the course of the campaign in favor of our country.

Partial mobilization

As we have already noted, after the Kharkov “regrouping”, when the military exercises “Vostok-2022” were held in the Far East at the same time with the involvement of 50 thousand military personnel and a large number of aviation and armored vehicles, President Putin had to announce a partial mobilization, although previously all senior government officials argued the opposite. This was the first mobilization since the Great Patriotic War, which revealed a great many organizational and personnel problems in the RF Ministry of Defense. Naturally, no one was preparing for it, believing the press secretary of President Putin, Dmitry Peskov, who, on September 13, 2022, to a question from journalists about the existence of such plans, answered verbatim the following:

There is no talk of this at the moment.

A week later, she, mobilization, began. More than 300 thousand reservists were called up, some of which almost immediately went to the front, which had to be urgently stabilized. And this raises the question of the quality of the preparation of "mobiles", which I would like to highlight in more detail.

Speaking on September 29, 2022 at the Security Council of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin pointed out the need for high-quality training of mobilized:

Those called up for military service before being sent to units must undergo additional military training without fail. Such coordination, training of people is a requirement that must be strictly observed.

Andrey Gurulev, a member of the State Duma Committee on Defense, said that the training of reservists would take at least two months:

It is necessary to create new connections and parts, most likely - associations. This will take time. <...> Taking into account the formation and movement, at least two months will pass, and we must be ready for this.

Acting Military Commissar of the Sverdlovsk Region Sergey Chirkov рассказал publication that the training time depends on the military specialty and will be at least two weeks:

The training will take place at various training centres. I assure you, preparation will be required. There are certain deadlines for each specialty. Of course, in two days we will not train a specialist. All training is carried out according to the schedule of classes, which is approved by the commander of the unit. At least two weeks.

If we summarize the statements of various functionaries on this issue, then the average period of preparation of the mobilized is about one month. At the same time, a lot depends on which officers the reservists will get to. Yes, we are talking about those who have already served in the army and previously had some skills, but in a month or even two of a 35-40-year-old man pulled out of a "citizen", John Rambo cannot be made with all the will. Also, a lot depends on which unit the reservists will be transferred to, how well it fights, how it is supplied, what kind of commanders it has.

The fact that in some places at the front not everything is fine, recently рассказал well-known military expert Vladislav Shurygin, explaining what the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will bet on in the upcoming counteroffensive:

On the regiments, which are listed on the maps as full-fledged, but in fact - detachments of mobilized almost unarmed people. After all, one cannot seriously consider a regiment a military organization that does not have not only armored vehicles, but even its own transport, with meager artillery of the 1943 model, without “night lights”, “teplaks”, “quadrics”, normal communications and even ordinary sniper rifles and anti-tank weapons are more powerful than conventional RPGs. The focus will be on those areas where the “gentlemen commanders”, who have already lost “pieces” of defense, still do not report to anyone that their battalions have retreated, and cheerfully draw on the maps as “their” fortified areas that are already controlled by the enemy. The real moral and psychological state in such units is extremely low. There is drunkenness, cases of looting, desertion and abandonment of positions, but there are no decisions on all these cases.

This problem is not universal, but in any case it requires attention from the Russian General Staff in order to avoid Big Problems. We also add to this tangle also the factor of fatigue, physical and psychological. Pulled out of their "citizen" and cut off from their families and their work, adult men who were sent to the front are there, in dirty cold trenches and dugouts, for more than six months and need rotation and rest, which was recently very frankly said "The Tsar's Wolf" Dmitry Rogozin:

And you just have to keep in mind that the enemy is much stronger than us. We cannot act here in such a way that it is every man for himself. That won't work at all. Therefore, mobilization is needed. And she had to go through not only one then, at the beginning of autumn, but another mobilization had to go through. We have personnel problems, you understand? Because the guys get hurt, our fighters are killed.

So it goes. Considering the trends that are taking place in the Ukrainian and Russian armies, the possible outcome of the summer-autumn campaign is alarming in my soul.

What to do?

It is quite obvious that personnel changes are required in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which prepared the army for war in such a way, planned and is implementing the SVO. Without it, alas, nowhere. Further, it is no less obvious that a second wave of mobilization in the RF Armed Forces is required in order to make up for losses, rotate at the front and prepare reserves. The previously announced advertising campaign for hiring 400 thousand contractors has not yet yielded the expected, the intermediate result is much more modest than required.

We must be aware that if the summer counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Southern Front turns out to be more successful than our jingoistic patriots who believe in “grinding” expect, mobilization in the RF Armed Forces will be carried out urgently, in fire mode, calling up reservists and sending them to fight with a minimum preparation. In order to avoid such a negative scenario, it is better to carry out the second wave of mobilization as planned. To do this, you need to solve a number of problems.

At first, they must be provided with competent commanders. The problem here and now can be solved by the introduction of short-term courses for junior lieutenants, which will make it possible to quickly prepare platoon commanders from experienced soldiers who have already served. Also, from September 2023, it is necessary to start opening military schools closed under Defense Minister Serdyukov in order to systematically prepare an officer shift.

Secondly, for the mass and at the same time rapid training of the mobilized, it is required first to prepare a staff of military instructors. About how the American "green berets" are doing this, we recently told in detail. From among the army special forces and "Wagners" you need to recruit instructors who can summarize their real combat experience and train reservists. A thousand military experts can, in three months, more or less train 30 mobilized, that is, a whole army corps. Ten thousand military instructors are capable of providing basic training for a 300-strong army. And it will be exactly the knowledge and skills that the “mobiles” will really need.

Thirdly, requires a full translation of the industry and economics on military lines. What is at stake is not the fate of the Donbass with the Sea of ​​Azov and the Crimea, but of our entire country, if suddenly someone else has not understood.

We need to plan to prepare serious reserves in the rear in order to be able to bring them into battle at any moment.
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  1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
    Dart2027 28 May 2023 11: 33
    Kyiv used the time gained to retrain its professional army according to NATO standards and to train new reserves.

    And will it also be armed according to NATO standards?
    1. Pembo Offline Pembo
      Pembo 28 May 2023 16: 04
      It is already armed with NATO weapons.
      1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
        Dart2027 28 May 2023 16: 45
        Quote from Pembo
        already armed

        Yes. It only remains to clarify the quantity of these weapons, and their quality, otherwise the same 777 US supplied without a ballistic unit, the Abrams will be in an extremely simple configuration, etc.
        1. vladivan Offline vladivan
          vladivan (Vladimir) 28 May 2023 18: 23
          You can read Levichev D Yu's calculations in
          1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
            Dart2027 28 May 2023 21: 02
            Quote from vladivan
            You can read the calculations

            That is, some Levichev claims that Abrams and Leopards will be supplied in the latest configuration?
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              1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                Dart2027 28 May 2023 22: 28
                Quote from vladivan
                He's doing the math!

                AND? Does, may be close to the truth. Only this is something to do with it? Where does it say about deliveries of the most modern heavy weapons to NATO in sufficient quantities to form an army armed according to the staffing table?
    2. Avedi Offline Avedi
      Avedi (Ankh) 29 May 2023 06: 15
      If the Ministry of Defense prepared so badly for the NWO, is there any certainty at all that it is capable of something?
      1. vladivan Offline vladivan
        vladivan (Vladimir) 29 May 2023 13: 18
        MO was not preparing for NWO! It is possible that it was secretly selling armored weapons in warehouses to Ukraine, under the guise of scrap metal. This applies to all types of howitzers, Soviet-made self-propelled guns. And perhaps up to 30-50% of the Defense Ministry sold to Ukraine, Shoigu talked about 70% of modernized and new weapons. GDP and DAM tell fables about 1,500 thousand tanks, and at most 500 tanks a year of five types, and 360 infantry fighting vehicles. The same thing about shells: 3 million maximum, and out of this figure 700-900 thousand per year, large-caliber 122-152 can be produced and modernized by our almost destroyed military-industrial complex, by these departments of the AP. State Duma, GDP, MO-Shoigu, RosTech, RosOborExp
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  2. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 28 May 2023 11: 35
    These fresh forces have not yet entered the battle, waiting for the order to start a counteroffensive.

    How were they not entered? Has the Russian army been fighting with the defense for more than a year? If "fresh forces" are sitting in ambush and waiting for a mythical counteroffensive, talk about which is part of the information war against Russia, then let a very informed author list these fresh forces at least concisely.
  3. serivolkf1 Offline serivolkf1
    serivolkf1 (sergey wolf) 28 May 2023 11: 42
    Everything is gone "chief" ... yes, what is it? again defeatist whining! Everything is not as bad as you have described here ... the recruitment of contractors is underway, they have already recruited 5 thousand in 120 months of this year, which are none, but there are successes, so there is no need for defeatist moods! The strategy is planned, and the tactics always change based on the current situation...
  4. Andrey NM Offline Andrey NM
    Andrey NM (Andrei) 28 May 2023 11: 50
    First you need to stop trading with the enemy and the countries that support him. Stop the transit of gas, oil, ammonia, etc., stop grain transactions through the territory of Ukraine. Then stop wagging one place and specifically voice the goals, objectives and deadlines for what is now called the NWO. Then ask those who told us about 70% of new weapons in the troops, supplies, etc., as well as those who were engaged in pseudo-reforms of the education system, recruitment, etc. But something tells me that they will not flog themselves ...
  5. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 May 2023 11: 54
    Thirdly, a full-scale transfer of industry and the economy to a military footing is required.

    The order of events should be different: to be the first to rotate and improve the superstructure of the state, from the highest ranks in ministers to the highest ranks in the RF Ministry of Defense, because in almost a year and a half of the war they proved complete prof. unsuitability, sometimes even sabotage. (shells for Wagner, long absence of UAVs, etc.). The second is to reformat the entire state for war, with the goal of a quick victory and an end to the bloodshed, otherwise the ongoing war will develop into new, already deadly problems for the state. Then the third is the conduct of the war: the mobilization of industry, raising the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to the required level - commanders, mobilized, equipment and weapons. So far, there is no systematic approach to the most dangerous situation, and problems, as always, start from the head and management, from strategy to tactics.
    1. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
      Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 28 May 2023 12: 30
      The order of events should be different: to be the first to rotate and improve the superstructure of the state, from the highest ranks in ministers to the highest ranks in the RF Ministry of Defense

      For all the time, a doctor on a submarine managed to successfully perform an appendicitis operation on himself only once. Written correctly. No one to do.
      1. golden knowledge (Gold) 28 May 2023 20: 35
        No, the medic was at the polar station
        1. Valera75 Offline Valera75
          Valera75 (Valery) 29 May 2023 08: 50
          Quote from Golden Knowledge
          No, the medic was at the polar station

          I think it was Yuri Senkevich
  6. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 28 May 2023 11: 55
    In order to avoid such a negative scenario, the second wave of mobilization is better......

    In order for the next mobilization not to become a failure, it must be carried out not in a "second wave", but gradually, continuously, as needed, in the necessary military specialties on the basis of "training books" available in each military unit.
    1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 28 May 2023 21: 43
      Mobilization-mobilization, but do we have enough weapons, ammunition and equipment, and not only small arms? I have big doubts about this.
      1. vladivan Offline vladivan
        vladivan (Vladimir) 28 May 2023 23: 46
        Therefore, we will modernize everything again within six months! the same AK-12 assault rifle has been modernized over the past half a year. And it became known as AK-12M1. You don’t hear about the Khabina reb during the year, as they announced the modernization last year. All three air defense systems also began to be modernized at the end of last year. What the TTX wrote and accepted by the Ministry of Defense turned out to be unsuitable for its own A about UAVs and high-precision shells, similarly to the exculibur, the generals from the Ministry of Defense were ruined successfully, like the military industry
  7. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 28 May 2023 12: 22
    As always. For all the good against all the bad.
    Without naming the full name and responsible.
    And what is 400 thousand of the second war, against a million army men, a million Russian guardsmen, a bunch of security officers and elite guards, and 70 thousand "selected fighters" at rallies only near Kadyrov?

    If you mobilize NODovtsy, with their Sarmatian mobile, there will already be half of the required number.
    And there are also their allies, blocs, blocs, assistants to deputies and their guards ...

    And if you call on all the EDRO members, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine will simply be trampled under mass ...
  8. unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 28 May 2023 13: 20
    We live in a different world. I remember every spring there was a waterfall of patriotism. And night wolves on motorcycles. And who was not there. The main thing is to paint a beautiful picture. We have Klondike reserves. 40% of rich people. And they are processed by a huge number of people. According to the author, we intended to fight for decades. And the most effective human reserves will go into battle. In this case, we will not only be unable to develop, but there will be no one to bake bread. We have how. There is a little man who everyone has forgotten about. And he lives without delving into the state. affairs. He firmly knows that we are all Super. And now they knock on him - "The trumpet is calling." He asks with a rickety belly, "Everything is super with you." And you don't need sportsmen, and artists who fight well in the cinema, and those young people on TV are also not needed. And these people are a whole host.
  9. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 28 May 2023 13: 34
    We have proclaimed a special operation with limited goals to help the Donbass and some kind of national security, they have a total war with the aim of reaching at least the borders of 1991 and, possibly, with the subsequent annexation of Belgorod, Bryansk and Kuban.

  10. strange guest Online strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 28 May 2023 14: 43
    We have proclaimed a special operation with limited goals to help the Donbass and some kind of national security

    Where did the author get this from? The goals were set out by the President on November 21st and February 22nd. Demilitarization, denazification of Ukraine and withdrawal from the NATO bloc of countries that joined it after 1996. Everything is clear and understandable. Until we do it, we can't finish. It is clear that after Ukraine, Finland will have to immediately demilitarize - it generally entered after our Ultimatum on non-expansion ..
    1. Pembo Offline Pembo
      Pembo 28 May 2023 16: 10
      How so? you forgot the Baltics, and Poland is an eternal enemy!
      1. strange guest Online strange guest
        strange guest (Strange Guest) 28 May 2023 19: 05
        Quote from Pembo
        How so? you forgot the Baltics, and Poland is an eternal enemy!

        Well then, the Center group - to Warsaw, and the North group - to Helsinki. And let's close the pincers around the Balts.
    2. vladivan Offline vladivan
      vladivan (Vladimir) 28 May 2023 18: 37
      From demilitarization we got militarization! And from denazification they got nazification. That's about the Ukrainization of 25-32 years, as well as 39-41 years in Galicia, all our authorities have been stubbornly silent for 7 years. But the Ukrainian authorities know about it, and in full, carry out the Bolshevik Ukrainization since 2014 or 2019, like a blueprint. I understand that you know the words that the president read? He only mentioned once on the 20th of February 22. about Ukrainization But you never looked at the Internet, and did not ask yourself what is Ukrainization, Kriv-DPR after 1917. Where did the UCR come from, and what did it proclaim? What is the relationship between the UCR and the Provisional Government. And what is Ukrainophilism and who are their apologists? Therefore, our government hides the Soviet Ukrainization in such a way, they know that 99,9% if they hear these terms, they will never pay attention to this story anyway
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  12. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 28 May 2023 15: 01
    Also, from September 2023, it is necessary to start opening military schools closed under Defense Minister Serdyukov in order to systematically prepare an officer shift.

    it seems to me that it’s already too late to do it, it will take a lot of time, and even there the premises are most likely sold out, destroyed and there are human servants or hucksters trading in them. And how long will it take to train these officers?
    About the fact that contract servicemen are being recruited, instead of the second wave, and successfully, then there are doubts, I read that in the suburbs they even give 195-600 thousand one-time, but only 40 people came in two weeks and it’s still not a fact that all 40 will pass a medical examination.
    1. Raymond Offline Raymond
      Raymond (Raymond) 28 May 2023 18: 10
      Perhaps ask third countries to learn, as Ukraine does ... and, ultimately, move to NATO standards.
  13. Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 28 May 2023 17: 46
    What was revealed during the first mobilization. They grabbed everyone who came under the arm. Those. we have not formed a mobilization reserve in the military registration and enlistment offices. Those. there are no lists of people who should be called up there and there in the first place, in the second place. And this is the business of the military registration and enlistment offices in the last turn. Because the philosophy of calling whom to call should be formulated depending on the degree of danger to the country. For example: we have a certain retired major, he is 60 years old or cool under 60, but he is healthy. We will not find a battalion for him, perhaps a company. If the country is in great danger, it is necessary to fight where necessary. The same applies to law enforcement and security structures, which can also be scoured in case of a difficult situation. And proceeding from this philosophy, the military registration and enlistment offices should work by forming lists. And it should not be so when hundreds of thousands of wealthy young people, residents of capitals and large cities, rushed through Upper Lars. And the authorities mockingly say: we have a free country. Squeeze potential opposition youth out of the country, having rich and influential relatives, mobilizing instead of them the uncomplaining gray mass. Such a philosophy of conscription is not necessary if the authorities do not want to play out before the revolution. For first-priority students, training sessions can be organized at least in large cities, where they can teach both on the job and with a partial break from work. The first mobilization died down long ago, is the second coming?
    1. strange guest Online strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 28 May 2023 19: 11
      Squeeze potential opposition youth out of the country

      And it seems to me absolutely correct position. Potentially opposition youth is a potential fifth column. Why are we here, this youth? Is that serious? Let only those who share the ideals of the Russian world and are ready to give their lives for it remain. We don't need companions.
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  14. Raymond Offline Raymond
    Raymond (Raymond) 28 May 2023 18: 07
    Between "John Rambo" and the "Green Berets", it seems that the author wants the Russian Federation to become an army according to NATO standards ...
  15. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
    hellman anton (hellman anton) 28 May 2023 19: 04
    More tunchiks and infantry yyyyy, and we will win.
    Lord, the 23rd year of the 21st century, 20 years have passed when technologies completely defeated the tuna and infantry (War in Iraq from the USA)
    When will this theater of the absurd end?
    Yes, even a trillion infantry mobilize, what will it change? The number of victims from high-precision weapons?
    Not the mobilization of a nzhna, but a massive high-precision weapon that will cut from a safe distance. High-precision for MLRS in gigantic quantities, if the crumbs that the United States gave allowed us to inflict such damage, what will happen if it is a lot?
    Even cost-effective high-precision than billions of infantry.
    What do we see as a result? Useless infantry, whose old equipment is 80 years old, goes to fight for the masses. And how to win with such geniuses of strategy in general, which came from the Stone Age? Although even in the Stone Age, the commanders knew that it was necessary, for example, to destroy the supply of the enemy and logistics.

    But the main thing is to giggle, as US soldiers cannot fight without burgers and cola.

    Economy: 1000 healthy people who have been mobilized and cannot work and benefit the state treasury.
    150 thousand equipment + machine gun = 150 million rubles
    salary 200 thousand = 200 million
    Food (food, water, etc.) and so on, let it be 20 per person = 000 million
    Total for the month: 220 million rubles per month + 150 million need to be spent 1 time on equipment.
    For the year 220 million * 12 + 150 million. = 2.7 billion rubles per year spent per 1000 people.
    And I still took a little.
    Let 1 high-precision projectile (rocket) for MLRS cost 500 rubles, more than 000 shells will come out at 2.7 billion. Which will fly clearly to the target.
    It will be profitable even at a price of 2 million rubles for a MLRS rocket

    So where is the economic benefit from billions of infantry? It is not and will not be, technology decides
    1. golden knowledge (Gold) 28 May 2023 20: 53
      No rockets can replace infantry. And big battalions always win. Always!
    2. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
      Dart2027 28 May 2023 21: 05
      Quote from hellman anton
      War in Iraq from USA

      This is when they gathered a coalition?
    3. vladivan Offline vladivan
      vladivan (Vladimir) 28 May 2023 21: 22
      Complete ignoramuses from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff knocked out high-altitude projectiles! One of the generals in Syria said in 2018 why we need expensive guided high-precision projectiles for 50 thousand ye (escalibur), if unguided aerial bombs can make with the same accuracy. There were many such statements from the generals from the Moscow Region. You can recall about KB Compass in the article “you cannot steal and fight at the same time” Also, the generals overslept the UAV due to their importance in military affairs. But they were very fond of constantly saying the word “network-centric”. It turns out that the Moscow Region did everything in such a way that in the future it would make it easier for Russia to defeat the war, slowing down absolutely all the developments of our design bureaus under the guise of many years of testing. Ppimer: the purchase of the most minimal orders for BMP3 and T-90m self-propelled guns-coalition 5 years of testing, and MSTA-S Tornado-s in single copies, Shell-cm and m (marine) announced the start of production Chemezov on October 26, 22, before that Chemezov said that from the age of 18 they went into the series. Shell-m has been installed only on two ships Karakurt and Odintsovo since 19
      Text taken "You can't fight and steal at the same time"
      The projectile with the Dynamics module The circular probable deviation of the projectile upgraded in this way does not exceed 10 m (BP: already much less, GLONASS was worse in 2011), while for conventional 152-mm projectiles at long ranges it can be 100 m and more. These tips cost $1000 in 2011. This is nothing for precision weapons. And today they are even cheaper, because technology develops. Expensive and rare components in 2011 become cheap and common in 2021.
      One hundred million dollars - a trifling amount for the military-industrial complex - is 100000 precision-guided projectiles.
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  17. Sergey_2 Offline Sergey_2
    Sergey_2 (Za Mir) 28 May 2023 21: 30
    What the hell is the second wave if the first hasn't ended yet? How much is needed, so many will be called!
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  19. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 28 May 2023 22: 09
    Mobilization? Wouldn’t the Kremlin finally want to change its rather strange approach to waging war (let’s call a spade a spade), in particular, to severely cut off all the main routes for the delivery of Western weapons and completely deprive the Ukroreykh of electricity ??
  20. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 28 May 2023 22: 27
    We have proclaimed a special operation with limited goals to help the Donbass and some kind of national security, they have an all-out war with the aim of reaching at least the borders of 1991 and, possibly, with the subsequent annexation of the Belgorod, Bryansk and Kuban regions. Goals and objectives so different in scale determine the ways to achieve them.

    In general, the goals of SO were defined as demilitarization and denazification. That is, they are much larger than the Ukrainian ones, even in the sense in which the author of the article suggests them. This is not a way out to the borders and not even the annexation of several regions, but the reformatting of the entire state as such.
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  21. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 28 May 2023 23: 41
    Quote from Raymond
    Perhaps ask third countries to learn, as Ukraine does ... and, ultimately, move to NATO standards.

    It's high time, both. It seems that there are no military men who know their business. Fighting the NATO army, which is almost the same as the UAF, is not the same as air-fighting terrorists in the desert. There is also no officer staff familiar with modern warfare. If Ukraine is fighting so successfully with the help of the defense forces, climbing freely into the Belgorod, Kursk regions, then what will happen when they use real forces?
  22. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
    Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 28 May 2023 23: 56
    Well, the agenda for the training camp is already in hand. With a probability of 90% they will prepare for the SVO. The question is quantity. It is clear that quality is relative. The best option is to offer contracts to Koreans. Like our contractors. There will be a million willing, two, three. Yes, it's expensive. But effective. In six months we will reach the Dnieper. If three million Koreans and a million of our
  23. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 29 May 2023 08: 22
    Cooked some "mobikov" at all as.
    The story of my friend. He was called up in the first days of mobilization in Kaliningrad, in the military unit they said that they would be preparing in Belgorod, in Belgorod they said that you would soon go to the training ground for training, as a result, in a couple of days from the training ground (where they didn’t teach anything, they stupidly wandered around from idleness) he leaves near Svatovo, where three days later he received minor injuries. In total, at the end of September, he was called up, on October 6, already the 300th. I wandered around the hospitals, eventually ended up in the Moscow region, in the Burdenko hospital # 3 where we came to visit him, photo from there

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    1. Pembo Offline Pembo
      Pembo 29 May 2023 12: 12
      To one degree or another, we are already answering, but of course, there is still more to come.
  25. twice-born Offline twice-born
    twice-born (Unknown) 29 May 2023 10: 25
    The people will then rebel if there is another mobilization!
  26. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 29 May 2023 10: 32
    That rare case when I completely agree with the author. Of course, this is also because the respected S. Marzhetsky avoided excessive detail, he is excellent at generalizing and sharpening. And, of course, personnel decisions in the hardened Defense Ministry are long overdue.
    The same Stalin, for example, before the war, first replaced his friend People's Commissar of Defense Voroshilov with Timoshenko, and a month after the start of the VO, he himself took this position. That's the main thing, I think.
  27. Vadim Sharygin Offline Vadim Sharygin
    Vadim Sharygin (Citizen) 29 May 2023 18: 06
    The absence of a second wave of timely and total mobilization is the main reason for the current and future losses, and even defeats of our armed forces that are tired of fighting in the minority, it is the lack of troops that will cause a possible breakthrough of the ukrov in the Belgorod region, in the Crimea. Mobilization is actually the key issue. There will be no mobilization now, one way or another, there will be only one option for the Russian Federation to deter NATO: the use of tactical nuclear weapons. And where tactical nuclear weapons are, there are not far to the strategic nuclear weapons. So, it is precisely the unwillingness or underestimation of the importance by the Russian military-political leadership of the need to win with significant and timely trained forces, as well as in general to recognize the fact that NATO is ready to go to the end in confrontation with Russia, that translates a realistically possible victory over Ukronazism into the category of an unrealistic bloody massacre already somewhere at the gates of the Kremlin with the probability of a thermonuclear ending for everyone.
    1. Alex Smirnov Offline Alex Smirnov
      Alex Smirnov 4 June 2023 13: 34
      Before announcing the second and subsequent waves of mobilization, it would be a good idea to destroy the supply routes of weapons to Ukraine.
      To start.
  28. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 29 May 2023 18: 52
    a full-scale transfer of industry and the economy to a military footing is required.

    In industry websites, defense plants cheerfully report on the modernization / expansion of production (at one stage or another) and the growth of output.
    I strongly doubt that it is possible to do something faster than it is done in fact.
    One catches the other, and there is no point in trying to make hulls for ersatz armored vehicles at automobile factories if we still run into the production of powerful diesel engines.
    So, if it is possible to mobilize the rest of the economy, it is mainly reinforced concrete plants and metal structures for the production of fortification elements.
    And certainly it is not worth spending money on imports - here it would be enough to buy back the products of their factories.

    And most importantly, even access to the Bug does not remove sanctions from the Russian Federation.
    In any case, a long endurance marathon began.
    And to arrange a sharp breakthrough in the 2nd year of sanctions, when there are still 40 years ahead of them - this is the prospect of falling exhausted already in the 4th year.
    1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
      hellman anton (hellman anton) 30 May 2023 03: 34
      Do they report cheerfully? Well, you can report as much as you like, because for a beautiful report they will give an award, and not for real work.
      They already reported about shock UAVs a year ago, how they will increase everything, build it and work in 3 shifts. True, there were no shock UAVs, and no.
      Yes, and there is another example with PERSON missiles (product 305) for attack helicopters. They promised to increase production, but after spending the batch, when every couple of days the vidos came out with LMURS, everything disappeared and is not used (the videos were actively published for about 2 months)
      Building up in reports and in reality is not the same thing.

      The maximum that can be noted is the increase in purchases of Chinese drones. But this is most likely the soldiers themselves buy with their own money. After all, as the generals from the Moscow Region said, "UAVs are toys for children"
      1. Nelton Offline Nelton
        Nelton (Oleg) 30 May 2023 09: 27
        Quote from hellman anton
        the soldiers themselves buy with their own money.

        Yeah, all the soldiers, all on their own money.
        See how many warriors ruin equipment and how many create lunar landscapes - but the equipment and rockets / shells still do not end.
        Although, of course, someone wants to continue to burn 100500 wagons of ammunition a day, but they no longer give it.

        Everything is the same as with civilian products (which we ourselves do not make, imports are under sanctions, and in general all the money for oil and gas remains in the West) - everything is sent by Allah.
        1. hellman anton Offline hellman anton
          hellman anton (hellman anton) 30 May 2023 20: 52
          You apparently used something, because it is not clear why you wrote about 100500 wagons of shells. Lunar landscapes and millions of empty shells, is it supposedly at the whim of the soldiers? Yeah, the soldiers are stupid, and not some narrator that high-precision is not needed, we will figure it out somewhere, UAV toys for children, analogous and simple nonsense that is scattered on the top . Soldiers will gladly shoot a little, but accurately. Than a lot in the hope of getting somewhere. It is not their fault that unprofessional specialists sit in the leadership who do not understand that high-precision weapons are more profitable than millions of shells into the void.
          A typical turbo-patriot who tries to shift the blame to ordinary people / soldiers. All according to plan.
          Of course, the army buys drones on aliexpress itself, and not ordinary soldiers. After all, as you know, geniuses of strategy, tactics and masters of modern combat are sitting in the Moscow Region. And the fact that they tell how soldiers buy their own equipment, first aid kits, drones, optics, teploki are all inventions of tsipso. How could the great Shoigu allow this, it's all feek! It can not be so!
          Fu, abomination
          1. Nelton Offline Nelton
            Nelton (Oleg) 31 May 2023 10: 21
            Quote from hellman anton
            soldiers buy their own equipment, first aid kits, drones, optics, teploki

            I do not argue with that.
            I bought myself something just in case.
            God willing, it won't be needed.

            But you need to understand that the front is not kept at the expense of first-aid kits and equipment items.
            Carapaces and missiles for them, self-propelled guns that plan bombs and the same shells are not bought by volunteers.

            Quote from hellman anton
            in the MO sit the geniuses of strategy, tactics and masters of modern combat.

            Since 2015, the leadership of the Ukrainian army has clearly understood who exactly the most likely enemy is, and they were preparing for the meeting quite purposefully.

            The leadership of the Russian army - they didn’t even hint at all that they would be given the task of conquering a large country with conventional weapons, with a trained and motivated army, + deliveries of everything necessary by the NATO bloc.
            All the jokes were that Ukraine is at war with Russia and suffers losses, and Russia did not even come to the war.
            Accordingly, no orders were given to the industry either.
            And when it happened, then yes, neither the army, nor the generals, nor industry was ready for such a turn.
            The industry even worked for export, and it can produce volumes / nomenclature comparable to export contracts, with the adjustment that equipment with Western components, now hard to reach, was exported.
            Everyone learns as the play progresses.
            Returning to - here is the same ChTZ reports, "According to the results of work for the first quarter of this year, the number of monthly produced modernized diesel engines exceeded by 12% the indicators of the USSR during the Cold War"
            Of course, you can not believe in this, and consider that the Russian Federation does not produce engines or armored vehicles, but what else is there was bought by volunteers on ali-express.
            Yeah, not such poor volunteers ...
            The same Prigozhin in his private "army" requires state supplies, and does not buy with his own private money.
  29. nepunamemuk Offline nepunamemuk
    nepunamemuk (Akela Missed) 29 May 2023 19: 27
    short call of the five ages
    from 60 to 65
    anyway, retirement laughing
    category A B and C
    category G on the second line
    almost all served
    so a month to prepare
    who did not serve - three months
    all sane
    but they don’t know where Upper Lars is located laughing
    you can immediately collect about three million
    and there you can think about Poland am
  30. Moscow Offline Moscow
    Moscow 29 May 2023 21: 52
    After Artyomovsk, the NVO turned to Russia, and now the talk is about the destruction of cities and towns of the Russian Federation by Ukrainians, in particular the Belgorod region - Shebekino, etc. Russian cities and towns are being destroyed, and is this normal?
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    2. Raymond Offline Raymond
      Raymond (Raymond) 3 June 2023 09: 36
      Your question is "Is this normal?" ... the answer is negative.
      But you know the proverb:

      He who sows the wind reaps the whirlwind.
  31. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 30 May 2023 01: 22
    So is this mobilization. You can announce, you can recruit people, and then what? For 30 years, weapons have been squandered, optimized, and now the people on the fronts are stirring up prodigies on their knees. When you don't have anything, you won't be able to make sense of even a million people.
    There is such a Caucasian toast:

    I want to buy a car, but I can't. The neighbor has the opportunity to buy a car, but has no desire. So let's drink to ensure that our desires coincide with our capabilities.
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  33. not indifferent Offline not indifferent
    not indifferent (Tatyana) 2 June 2023 14: 03
    Sergei Marzhetsky! You are well done!
  34. staer-62 Offline staer-62
    staer-62 (Andrei) 3 June 2023 09: 09
    No wave will help as long as the West will fight on the side of Ukraine. In the meantime, it is necessary to create a regiment of oligarchs and their children and children of officials, let them prove their love for the Motherland by deeds. Maybe then a decision will be made to use nuclear weapons against Europe. In the meantime, at the front, only simple hard workers, someone does not care how many have already died and how many more will be. Now, if immediately as soon as the West intervened there would be a nuclear strike, then everything would have ended long ago.
    1. Raymond Offline Raymond
      Raymond (Raymond) 3 June 2023 09: 39
      You have undoubtedly noticed that in their profession of businessmen they are already ineffective for the country's economy...