Ukrainian UAV "Sokol-300" will be able to fly up to 3300 kilometers over Russia


Encouraged by the success of air attacks on Russian military airfields in the Ryazan, Saratov and Kursk regions, Kyiv started talking seriously about new strikes, but this time against Moscow and the Moscow region. Moreover, the plans of the Ukrainian Nazis even "probe the air defense over the Kremlin." How realistic is this and how exactly can the Armed Forces of Ukraine attack the deep rear of Russia?


Literally immediately after the air attacks on December 5 and 6, 2022, an “unnamed adviser to the Ukrainian authorities on defense issues” told the Financial Times on condition of anonymity the following information:

We have no restrictions on the distance, and soon we will be able to achieve any goals on the territory of Russia, including in Siberia.

In Ukraine, we know how difficult it is to defend against such air attacks. Soon Russia will not have safe zones either. These attacks ... will certainly make the Russians less confident ... They will have to think about how to distribute military equipment and ensure its security.

According to this Ukrainian official, this is a UAV, but not the modified Soviet Swifts that were used to attack Russian airfields, but some kind of joint development of the public and private sectors. We will talk about this industrial cooperation in the future, but now let's try to determine what kind of attack drones we can talk about.

Ukroboronprom reports a UAV with a flight range of 1000 kilometers and a payload of 75 kilograms. Oleg Boldyrev, project manager of the Ukrainian state corporation, comments on the product as follows:

He already is. I would call him "Patient Zero". The car flies, the car is now being trained, because when we talk about a strike drone, we are talking about a kamikaze variant. But we Ukrainians are very greedy people. We will have kamikaze with the possibility of return.

Most of all, this description fits the promising Ukrainian reconnaissance and strike UAV Sokol-300, the prototype of which was presented in Kyiv back in 2019. This project is being carried out by KB Luch. The wingspan of the drone reaches 14 meters, the length is about 8 meters, the maximum takeoff weight is 1225 kilograms, and the payload is up to 300 kilograms. Other performance characteristics of UAVs are very seriously dependent on the engine used, of which there are three to choose from.

If the Ukrainian AI-450T2 is installed, then the speed will be 580 km/h, the flight time will be 5 hours, and the maximum range will be 1300 km. If the MS-500V-05S/SE is used, the speed will be reduced to 466 km/h, the flight time to 3 hours, and the range to 1000 kilometers. If the designers use the Austrian Rotax 914, then the speed will drop to 210 km / h, but the time spent in the air will increase to 26 hours, and the maximum flight range - up to 3300 km! In other words, with the Ukrainian engine, the Sokol-300 will provide the desired 1000 kilometers of engagement range, with the Austrian one, it will be able to hit targets even in the Urals and Siberia.

The UAV can be controlled directly at a distance of up to 150 km via radio communication from a mobile control center unified with the control center of the RK-360 missile system of the Neptun MC and placed on a truck chassis, or up to 300 km using a repeater. Further, the control is carried out by an inertial unit with laser gyroscopes, developed by the Arsenal Special Instrument Making Enterprise. The optical station OPSN-I is responsible for detecting and targeting the target, capable of detecting a target in the air at a distance of up to 14,5 km, equipped with thermal imaging, television and laser channels, as well as a laser rangefinder. The armament of the Sokol-300 is represented by four helicopter-based Barrier-V anti-tank missiles. Judging by Boldyrev’s statement, Ukroboronprom provided for a version of the UAV in the form of a one-time “kamikaze”, as with modified Soviet Tu-141s, the warhead of which, apparently, is 75 kilograms.

In general, this is a rather serious weapon that can create gigantic problems for our rear if the American satellite systems continue to direct Ukrainian drones at the target. Hopes that the “calibration” and “geranization” of Ukrainian defense enterprises will prevent Kyiv from putting UAVs and other weapons on the conveyor, for which counted some of our readers, alas, are not justified. The press service of the state corporation "Ukroboronprom" issued the following statement the day before:

Ukraine is integrating into the military-industrial complex of NATO. Ukroboronprom will jointly produce and develop heavy weapons and military machinery with at least six member countries of the alliance.

It must be assumed that for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, any weapons they need under the Ukroboronprom nameplate will simply be quickly assembled from imported components. Poland, France, the Czech Republic, Denmark and other countries will participate in industrial cooperation with Ukraine. And this is very bad. Taken together, this means that Kyiv, if necessary, will be able to acquire not only Sokols, but also medium-range missiles and other weapons that allow shooting through Russia to its entire strategic depth.

Those who call for stopping the NWO and reconciling as soon as possible with the Kyiv regime, let them think carefully now about the consequences of such a step. Then they themselves will sit in the winter in the cold and darkness, and this is at best.
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  1. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 14 December 2022 11: 22
    +3
    Those who call for stopping the NMD and reconciling as soon as possible with the Kyiv regime, let them think carefully now about the consequences of such a step.

    No one but Putin, Peskov and Lavrov calls for this.
    1. Rainy Offline Rainy
      Rainy 14 December 2022 18: 33
      -4
      Which of these "no one" is already going to the military registration and enlistment office to sign up as volunteers? And then during the mobilization, "no one" amounted to only 18 people out of, it seems, 000 million people in the reserve.
      1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 15 December 2022 09: 09
        -1
        Where else can you earn 200 thousand?
      2. oao Offline oao
        oao (Chizhov Kirill) 3 January 2023 05: 17
        0
        To settle in a vocational school and then you were posthumously accused of using the phone?
    2. Pavel N Offline Pavel N
      Pavel N (Paul) 15 December 2022 21: 40
      0
      No need to lie!
  2. calligrapher Lev_Nikolaevich (Dmitriy) 14 December 2022 11: 26
    +2
    They will still be collected on the territory of Ukraine.
    Judging by the picture, the fuselage and wings are composite, and with such dimensions, the area for their manufacture should be rather big.
    Unless they arrange a full production cycle in Europe, followed by air distillation.
    Then you need to track the airfields.
    1. Brother Fox_2 Offline Brother Fox_2
      Brother Fox_2 (Brother Fox) 14 December 2022 18: 29
      +3
      track the production area and turn off the lights
  3. Pavel Mokshanov_2 (Pavel Mokshanov) 14 December 2022 11: 33
    +15
    The spineless policy of the Russian leadership, indulging the oligarchs, will create problems for the citizens of the Russian Federation. It is high time to gouge the energy of dill, the logistics infrastructure and stop the supply of hydrocarbons to the geyropa. To score on the UN calls for the export of grain and ammonia. Mobilize your economy. Deal with saboteurs in the bureaucratic environment. Otherwise, we'll wait for NATO "peacekeepers" like Afghanistan and Iraq.
    1. oao Offline oao
      oao (Chizhov Kirill) 3 January 2023 05: 19
      0
      Hydrocarbons are already at minimum wages, we have already won back this horror story. And we can’t gouge anything, or we don’t know how, or there’s nothing.
  4. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 14 December 2022 11: 37
    +8
    Something in the "kingdom of crooked mirrors" is not right. "Swan, crayfish and pike" is the most suitable description of SVO ..
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  5. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 14 December 2022 11: 52
    +7
    Warhead ... 75 kg (300)?
    V-2 had a combat load of 1000 kg and even then it was considered unprofitable.
    So don't go broke?
    The game is not worth the candle!
    But jamming the signals of American satellite-gunners is a sacred duty!
    1. k7k8 Online k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 14 December 2022 12: 31
      +4
      Quote from Mikhail L.
      V-2 had a combat load of 1000 kg and even then it was considered unprofitable

      1. V-2 - ballistic missile. And this is a completely different type of weapon.
      2. Before the heap, the V-2 had no accuracy (which was somewhat offset by a really powerful warhead). The technologies of that time did not allow to reduce the KVO. And the German scientists were sorely lacking time to finalize the control and guidance system. It was produced by the forces of concentration camp prisoners, which also did not add any reliability. And they shot her not at the target, but towards the target. No guarantee of hit. It was more of a psychological weapon. Although in the case of an accurate hit (Antwerp - 16.12.44/25.11.44/XNUMX, London - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX), the striking (and not just psychological) effect was colossal.
      3. Even despite the unprofitability declared by you (as, indeed, by Speer), more than 3000 combat launches were made. Up to 900 missiles were produced monthly from factories.
      4. And not 1000kg, but 800kg of explosive.
      As for the Ukroreich wunderwaffe, you urge to underestimate the enemy. Accordingly, the question: "Who do you work for?"
      1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 14 December 2022 18: 05
        -3
        And not 1000kg, but 800kg of explosive

        Developer: Wernher von Braun
        Fuel type: ethyl alcohol and liquid oxygen
        Working time: 80-120 s
        Length (w / o): 14 m
        Thrown mass: 1000 kg (!)
        Number of warheads: 1
        Maximum range: 320 km

        ...Another source:

        LRE engine with max. thrust, t: 25
        Max. speed, m/s: 1700
        Maximum flight range, km: 250-300
        Warhead weight, kg: 1000.

        ... To lie - you also need to be able to! ;-(
        1. k7k8 Online k7k8
          k7k8 (vic) 14 December 2022 18: 43
          +4
          Quote from Mikhail L.
          Thrown mass: 1000 kg

          Quote from Mikhail L.
          Lying - you also need to be able to!

          That's it! Do not confuse the mass of the warhead (it is also the mass to be thrown, the mass of the warhead) and the mass of the explosive in this warhead (the mass to be thrown).
          1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 14 December 2022 18: 55
            -2
            ... Unfounded statements are worthless: give the source indicating exactly the mass of explosives in 800 kg.
            1. k7k8 Online k7k8
              k7k8 (vic) 14 December 2022 19: 18
              +3
              Did I understand correctly that you were banned on Google? I sympathize and help. In the same place where you didn’t read it on the wiki, this figure is indicated in the text of the article - 800 kg of ammothol. The thrown mass includes not only explosives, but also the mass of the warhead body and the mass of mechanisms and control systems. It's like an F1 grenade. The total mass (it is also the thrown mass) is 0.6 kg, and the mass of explosives in it is 0,06 kg. On this educational program I consider it finished and I do not intend to continue it.
              1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                Michael L. 14 December 2022 21: 16
                -3
                It is up to you to cite the original source in full.
                1000 or 800 - compared to 75 (or even 300) in about 80 years - does it matter?
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    2. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 15 December 2022 09: 12
      0
      Quote from Mikhail L.
      Warhead ... 75 kg (300)?
      V-2 had a combat load of 1000 kg and even then it was considered unprofitable.

      The FAA was hollowing out the areas, it had no accuracy.
  6. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 14 December 2022 12: 10
    +2
    They are preparing to bomb the parade in Moscow. After all, our air defense cannot shoot down half of the flying targets, and if they do, it’s right above the object, as ordered by the enemy .., then they fly low, then something else. sea ​​of ​​explanations
    1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 15 December 2022 09: 15
      0
      Quote: kriten
      They are preparing to bomb the parade in Moscow.

      Let's see. Parade, that is.
    2. blackcat190463 Offline blackcat190463
      blackcat190463 (Yuri) 18 December 2022 18: 33
      0
      Yes, they can’t do it in Ukraine, but in Belgorod today everyone was shot down, 12 pieces am
  7. anti-aircraft gunner 14 December 2022 13: 00
    +8
    That would hit faster. Maybe then the Politburo will wake up and start fighting, if only out of the instinct of self-preservation...
  8. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 14 December 2022 13: 05
    +1
    I think in 3-6 months we will have problems with bitter tears in our eyes, and judging by what is happening, we are stuck there for a single year, if at all we are not put in a cancerous position. The problem in the square should already be solved by 90% in January, well maximum in February, and we have been hammering Bakhmut for 6 months, which we can drop with a dozen other settlements during the next regrouping.
  9. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 14 December 2022 13: 09
    +3
    All this is perspective. It is necessary to deal with Ukraine in the near future, a month or two.
    By the method of successive complete shutdowns of regions from east to west. If necessary - by breaking boiler rooms or machine rooms of thermal power plants.
    I really hope that ours are just waiting for the end of the championship in Qatar.
    More sad is the lack of information about the real defeats of the morning raid on Kyiv.
    Geranium is cheap. Maybe that's why the military did not order it. Works only at the first stage.
    These UAVs are guided only by GLONASS. And to put equipment that knocks down satellite signals in front of the first-priority large targets is not a particular problem.
    The previous raid was no longer impressive. And today, just nothing. Explosions from downed Geraniums.
    So you need to deal with Geraniums with smaller goals. They won't cover the entire area. And hit the rest of the targets with what is still working. If it works. Recall how Axes were shot down in Syria with the help of electronic warfare.
    And for a war without blackouts, more people are needed.
  10. Event Observer Offline Event Observer
    Event Observer (Oleg T) 14 December 2022 15: 24
    -4
    Everything goes to one scenario. Yao application. No others are visible. Upper management is waiting for a reason to apply.
    1. Rainy Offline Rainy
      Rainy 14 December 2022 18: 28
      +2
      And it will be Russia's loss. Dear Western partners have already obtained statements from India and China condemning the hypothetical use of nuclear weapons in this conflict. You understand what that means.

      Why did respected Western partners achieve these statements? Everything is simple. Now the NATO military can openly enter into conflict ON THE TERRITORY of Ukraine, which is recognized by the world community. Including India and China. And Russia will have nothing to answer to this.
      1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 14 December 2022 18: 37
        0
        And Russia will have nothing to answer to this?

        Does the Russian Federation ... have strategic nuclear weapons disappeared?
        1. Rainy Offline Rainy
          Rainy 14 December 2022 18: 53
          0
          Now re-read the first paragraph of my last post.
          Well, let's strike first with the yaos and find ourselves in real international isolation, when a really large part of the world will be turned against us.
          1. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
            Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 14 December 2022 20: 36
            +3
            You are confusing something, mister traitor. Maybe the United States, after the strikes of nuclear weapons on Japan, was isolated? Remember, fear the strong. And the strong one is the one who actually hits the enemy with nuclear weapons. I hope Putin has steel boxes, and he will not be afraid to cover Lviv (at least), or Warsaw at a difficult moment. The West does not care about dill and pshek. They only fear for their lives.
            If I were in the place of VVP, Lviv would no longer be on the map of the planet. Or maybe Warsaw too. And I think NATO would have already signed peace agreements with the Russian Federation. There are no other options and there won't be.
            1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
              Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 14 December 2022 23: 06
              +1
              All the same, Ukraine and Poland are different. Poland is in NATO, Ukraine is not. After the attack on Warsaw, NATO is obliged to provide military assistance to the Poles, but not to Ukraine.
          2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 14 December 2022 21: 22
            +1
            Whatever you write in your paragraphs: the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation does not provide for the possibility of using nuclear weapons depending on public opinion!
            1. Rainy Offline Rainy
              Rainy 14 December 2022 21: 33
              +1
              On the other hand, it provides for the possibility of a nuclear response to, for example, the Engels incident. And how did he follow? No. And why?
              1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                Michael L. 14 December 2022 21: 42
                0
                "Possibility"!
          3. Dust Offline Dust
            Dust (Sergei) 15 December 2022 14: 45
            0
            It is because of such arguments as yours that our soldiers are dying. When the Americans dropped nuclear bombs on Japan, they were primarily guided by the lives of their soldiers. They didn't care about the whole world.
        2. UAZ 452 Offline UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 (UAZ 452) 14 December 2022 20: 07
          -2
          Does the Russian Federation ... have strategic nuclear weapons disappeared?

          The Russian Federation has a large shortage of people who are satisfied with the formula "we will all go to heaven, and they will all die." Only the author of this phrase and, apparently, you.
          1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 14 December 2022 21: 19
            0
            A personal attack is not an argument!
            If the leaders of the G7 declared V. Putin and his entourage enemies of humanity, then ... the latter will go to heaven, and the former will die!
      2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 14 December 2022 20: 44
        +3
        The use of nuclear weapons does not mean complete destruction and radioactive contamination of cities. It can be selective. In particular, a stratospheric nuclear explosion over Kyiv will not cause destruction, but will disable a lot of electrical engineering and electronics and possibly air defense with an electromagnetic pulse, and will also show the West that Russia does not intend to give up and will go to the end. And what else China and India will say later, and most importantly, they will actually do it - this is a big question.
        1. k7k8 Online k7k8
          k7k8 (vic) 14 December 2022 21: 39
          -1
          The main problem of the present time is the overwhelming number of fearless idiots
        2. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
          Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 14 December 2022 21: 54
          0
          It is high time to resolve the issue with Avdiivka ground b / n in 1 Kt.
          1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
            Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 14 December 2022 23: 01
            0
            But ground-based nuclear explosions cannot be done. Too much radioactive contamination.
    2. k7k8 Online k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 14 December 2022 18: 44
      -1
      Watch further. Do not be distructed.
  11. Foe Pshekov Offline Foe Pshekov
    Foe Pshekov (Arkady) 14 December 2022 20: 32
    +1
    This target will be fairly well tracked by air defense. There will be no problems with destruction either.
    Whineers go through the forest, or go to live with the Anglo-Saxons. Russia will not lose the war with NATO. Either victory or mutual destruction. If you are not betting on Russia...then just get ready to die.
    1. vladivan Offline vladivan
      vladivan (Vladimir) 18 December 2022 23: 49
      0
      It was enough to rivet a thousand Osu and Arrow 10 air defense systems and the problem would be solved in protecting oil storage facilities, airfields, and ammunition depots. But our generals had no time for that! Arms exports were more important for the Middle East.
  12. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 14 December 2022 20: 47
    +4
    If we continue to fight like this according to Gerasimov's plan, then we'll wait. They need to finish off their air defense as soon as possible, bring to zero the S300, beeches, akm wasps, and then massively bomb and bomb with cast iron from a high altitude their communications, factories, enterprises that still remain and can produce at least some kind of weapon, equipment, fuel, materials. Why can't we still find a way to neutralize their old Soviet air defense systems. After all, all of their parameters, frequencies, capabilities are known to us. For Israel in Syria, For the United States in Iraq and Libya, it was not difficult. It turns out that they have electronic warfare, but we don’t have it ?. And without the massive use of aviation throughout the entire depth of the territory of Ukraine, it is difficult to talk about victory over the enemy.
  13. Vlad Sirs Offline Vlad Sirs
    Vlad Sirs (Sirius NVL) 14 December 2022 21: 34
    -1
    In 23, unexpected painful surprises await Russia. As I understand it, inflicting identical blows on the energy sector of the Russian Federation, as well as on the warehouses of the BC and the factories of the military-industrial complex, Kyiv may well force Moscow to peace on its own terms. It is impossible to defend against such attacks. Especially in the vast expanses of the Russian Federation.
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 14 December 2022 21: 54
      -1
      What are the "unexpected" if you have already explained everything? Ha!
    2. Dust Offline Dust
      Dust (Sergei) 14 December 2022 22: 08
      -2
      You write complete nonsense!
  14. Vasya 225 Offline Vasya 225
    Vasya 225 (Vyacheslav) 14 December 2022 21: 51
    +2
    I still don’t understand why Luch Design Bureau (the developer of air and anti-tank missiles) has not been touched so far and only slightly offended its production. base - software Artem. Too lazy to think ahead?
  15. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 14 December 2022 21: 58
    +1
    So far, all the statements of the Ukrainian authorities and the media are being justified, no matter how much the majority of local optimists dislike it. Hohloreich promises to parade on Red Square, reach Vladivostok, promises to take back the Donbass and Crimea, promises to bomb the Urals... We'll soon see if that happens. In the meantime, the ukroraykh promised and drove the AFRF away from Kyiv, Kharkov, Kherson, Zaporozhye ... while none of the Kremlin's promises have been fulfilled: neither "denazification", nor "demilitarization", nor a free Donbass, nor Little Russia, nor New Russia , no "Odessa is a Russian city", no breakthrough to the Polish border ... not a damn thing at all. Pessimism? Where is the reason for optimism?
  16. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 14 December 2022 22: 06
    +1
    Any heavy UAV is the same military aircraft only without a pilot. With the same success, Ukraine can declare a MIG-29 squadron will attack Moscow or Siberian cities. Any heavy UAV is a pathetic parody of a combat aircraft. UAVs are inferior to aircraft in terms of speed, maneuverability, decision-making ... The only problem is not to "sleep through" our air defense while guarding the sky. Too often we do not give a damn about their duties, those who should do it.
    1. Dust Offline Dust
      Dust (Sergei) 14 December 2022 22: 11
      +1
      I will add, High-level professionals should guard the sky, and not conscript soldiers who have served six months.
    2. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 15 December 2022 11: 08
      +2
      These are not jokes, since the main task is not the notorious damage to our rears and the Kremlin, but testing air defense, electronic warfare and the protection of nuclear facilities in combat conditions. Checking how undeserved the halo of invincibility and "no-analogue" of our air defense, promoted by the media, is. This is NATO preparing for an imminent war with us!
      According to the first results of air defense, there are as many "new" samples as there are armats, boomerangs and su 57. Not so much as PR, unfortunately ...
  17. Pavel volkov Offline Pavel volkov
    Pavel volkov (Pavel Volkov) 14 December 2022 23: 06
    +1
    Why start if you can't resist?
    And if you start, you need to pump it to the end ... but they have already reached such an extent that 90% of NATO's weapons are in service.
    1. Dust Offline Dust
      Dust (Sergei) 14 December 2022 23: 15
      -1
      You surprise me! Russia has actually returned five of its regions! Isn't that enough?
      1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 15 December 2022 00: 00
        +1
        You can "crack" further, waving a nuclear baton to the right and left, shouting: "We'll show them, adversaries!" But reality speaks of unpleasant things. Facts are facts and you can't get away from them. And the facts are as follows: on February 24, the CIA, Mi5-6 and other Western intelligence and secret services had a holiday - they opened champagne and shouted "Yes!" - finally, having achieved what they had dreamed of for so long. Their only task remains to prevent a "global thermonuclear war", but I think for this they have certain levers and methods of influence and influence.
        1. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
          Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 15 December 2022 04: 03
          +1
          That's the whole "trouble" in these and leverage occurs, but the Anglo-Saxons, the kings of bluff and leverage, raise for us like an insurmountable wall. In metaphysics, one can say bewitched (although everything is so). For all the media, propagandizing that we have nothing to lose (but in reality it is so), always go all-in and, in the next case, how to “hit” Zngels to the fullest.
  18. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 14 December 2022 23: 47
    +2
    When will the outrageous co-operation in the country's leadership stop??!
    1. Dust Offline Dust
      Dust (Sergei) 15 December 2022 00: 25
      +1
      Our king is kind! He cannot offend partners from Europe and the USA.
  19. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 15 December 2022 03: 35
    -2
    Those who call for stopping the NWO and making peace with the Kyiv regime as soon as possible, let them think carefully now about the consequences of such a step.

    There is a reliable shield, air defense of the country, in particular the capital. Single targets will be destroyed on approach, no doubt
    1. Mordvin 3 Offline Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) 15 December 2022 09: 35
      0
      Quote: Colonel Kudasov
      There is a reliable shield, air defense of the country, in particular the capital.

      After 11/11/2001 fighter planes circled over the capital. Can't see now. Question: Air defense improved?
    2. vladivan Offline vladivan
      vladivan (Vladimir) 18 December 2022 23: 56
      0
      It is necessary to destroy the administrative buildings of the SBU RADU, OP, GRU, then there is no need to be afraid! But the Soviet developments of the "osa" and "arrow" air defense systems would have come in handy for their cheapness and mass production for the places of protection of warehouses, oil storage facilities, military airfields, etc.
  20. Uncle Borya Offline Uncle Borya
    Uncle Borya (Uncle Borya) 15 December 2022 06: 38
    -1
    If this happens, then I really hope that people's anger will be so strong that the Russian authorities, in order not to lose this very power, will have to forget about the interests of the oligarchs in this war and begin to destroy the Kyiv regime for real.
  21. Uncle Borya Offline Uncle Borya
    Uncle Borya (Uncle Borya) 15 December 2022 06: 41
    -2
    Quote: Vlad Srs
    In 23, unexpected painful surprises await Russia. As I understand it, inflicting identical blows on the energy sector of the Russian Federation, as well as on the warehouses of the BC and the factories of the military-industrial complex, Kyiv may well force Moscow to peace on its own terms. It is impossible to defend against such attacks. Especially in the vast expanses of the Russian Federation.

    Damn, your pan is clean! Front door?
  22. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 15 December 2022 10: 57
    +1
    Sleeping our intelligence ..
    Otherwise, they would have long ago banged on the booth with the guards and the substations of the LUCH design bureau "Geraniums", and under the guise of darkness and turmoil, you can steal samples or documentation. And after an hour, cover with a second blow to clean up the traces ..
    And if it doesn’t work out, then simply destroy everything together with the chief designer and leading specialists (at least with geraniums all in a crowd, even at the entrances of their houses one at a time - by the way, you can look for volunteers among the Wagnerites - some of them have clearly specialized experience).
    It's either us or us, this ostentatious humanism must end.
  23. Maxim A Offline Maxim A
    Maxim A (Maksim) 15 December 2022 23: 30
    +1
    It seems to me that it will most likely fly. Well, of course, and of course, our air defense will shoot him down on approach. There will be no civilian casualties. But it is not exactly.
  24. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 17 December 2022 20: 35
    -1
    The "elite" - the power of the Russian Federation - wants to make peace with the Kyiv regime as soon as possible, but it will not sit in the cold and darkness. Everything goes to the fact that inaction and conspiracy, fear for one's own skin of the authorities of the Russian Federation will lead to a big war. The authorities will run away to their money, but the people will have to rake and survive.
  25. Sancym Offline Sancym
    Sancym (Alexander ) 21 December 2022 04: 53
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    The Falcon may or may not fly, land on the road!