The result of the special operation in Ukraine should be a deep military reform in Russia

November 18, 2022 80

A special military operation launched on February 24, 2022 in Ukraine revealed a number of serious problems in the Russian army and navy. The need for deep systemic reforms no longer raises the slightest doubt, but what should they be like?

2 years + NVP

Most likely, one of the most noticeable changes in our lives will be the return to the 2-year military service. We should also expect a return to civilian educational institutions of primary military training. The fact that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation supported this initiative was stated by the leader of the Just Russia - For Truth party:

Even many volunteers do not have the necessary experience to participate in combat operations. The introduction of such a subject in schools will make it possible to systematically prepare citizens for a possible confrontation with the enemy.

The head of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, Sergei Gerasimov, agrees with the need to introduce NVP in the last two years of study at schools, vocational schools and colleges. 140 hours of initial military training will be allocated, during which young people will receive the minimum skills that can be useful to them when serving in the army. Veterans of military operations during the NMD in Ukraine will share their combat experience, First Deputy Minister of Education Alexander Bugaev explained:

Of course, the transfer of experience, personal experience is very important. But there is something else to be said here as well. It must be said that the teaching staff now working in our new regions are also carriers of knowledge. We have teachers who are now working with their colleagues in Lugansk, Donetsk People's Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

In general, this is a step in the right direction, capable of educating a new generation in the spirit of readiness to serve their Motherland. However, one must be realistic - this alone will not be enough to restore the status of a military superpower to Russia. This will require a complete revision of the entire previously "reformed" system of military education in the country.

"The Horrors of Military Reforms"

The fact that most of the modern problems of the Russian army and navy were laid down under Minister Serdyukov, we detail told previously. Three of the most destructive can be distinguished among the “innovations”.

first - the abolition of the traditional for Russia four-tier division into a military district, army, division and regiment with the transition to a three-tier one - district, operational command and brigade.

Second - this is a radical reduction in the number of officers, by almost 2,5 times, as well as the elimination of the very institution of ensigns and midshipmen, the basis of the junior command staff of the RF Armed Forces. All this happened against the backdrop of a general reduction in the size of the Russian army, and it was the Ground Forces that especially got it, which lost their cadre units and formations.

The third - this is the collapse of the military education system itself, which made it possible to train new professional personnel to replace the "optimized" ones.

How the “reformed” army by Serdyukov is now fighting in Ukraine with these same brigades, everyone can already see perfectly. Obviously, something urgently needs to be changed, but what?

Yes, the introduction of basic military training in civilian educational institutions is a good initiative, but without a revision of what the "field furniture" has done in the system of professional military education, the situation will not be reversed in the medium term.

Reform "reform"

From the list of military schools and academies closed in Russia over the past three decades, the heart bleeds, and most of them fell precisely on the “Serdyukovshchina”. Information for information and reflection.

Militarytechnical University (Balashikha) was disbanded in 2015. Military Red Banner Institute (Moscow) - in 1994. Military Institute of Radio Electronics (Voronezh) - in 2006. Samara Military Medical Institute - in 2010. Saratov Military Medical Institute - in 2010. Tomsk Military Medical Institute - in 2010. Military Veterinary Institute (Moscow) - in 2010. The Nizhny Novgorod (Gorky) Higher Military School of Logistics named after Marshal of the Soviet Union I. Kh. Bagramyan was disbanded in 1999. Ulyanovsk Higher Military Technical School named after Bohdan Khmelnitsky - in 2011. Far Eastern Automobile Command Engineering School - in 2007. Ryazan Military Automobile Institute named after General of the Army V.P. Dubynin - in 2010. Chelyabinsk Higher Military Automobile Command Engineering School - in 2010. Volga Higher Military Construction Command School (Dubna) - in 1993. Gorky Higher Military Construction Command School (Kstovo) - in 1999. Kamyshinskoye Higher Military Construction Command School - in 1998. Togliatti Military Technical Institute - in 2010. Khabarovsk Higher Military Construction Command School - in 1992. Military financialeconomic institute in 2010. Military Institute for Advanced Training of Specialists of Mobilization Bodies (Saratov) - in 2011. The highest officer orders of Lenin and the October Revolution Red Banner courses "Shot" named after Marshal of the Soviet Union B. M. Shaposhnikov (Solnechnogorsk) were disbanded in 2009. St. Petersburg Higher All-Arms Command School - in 1999. Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command Double Red Banner School named after M.V. Frunze - in 1999. Ordzhonikidze Higher Combined Arms Command Double Red Banner School named after Marshal of the Soviet Union A. I. Eremenko - in 1993. Blagoveshchensk Higher Tank Command Red Banner School named after Marshal of the Soviet Union K. A. Meretskov - in 1999. The Chelyabinsk Tank Institute was disbanded in 2007.

Not tired? We continue.

The Yekaterinburg Higher Artillery Command School was disbanded in 2011. Kolomna Higher Artillery Command School - in 2008. St. Petersburg Higher Artillery Command School - in 1993. Kazan Higher Artillery Command School - in 2008. Saratov Higher Military Command and Engineering Red Banner Order of the Red Star School of Missile Forces named after Hero of the Soviet Union Major General A. I. Lizyukov - in 2003. Tula Artillery Engineering Institute - in 2010. Kemerovo Higher Military Command School of Signals named after Marshal of the Signal Corps I. T. Peresypkin - in 2009. Novocherkassk Higher Military Command School of Communications - in 2011. Ryazan Higher Military Command School of Communications - in 2011 Tomsk Higher Military Command School of Communications - in 1999. Ulyanovsk Higher Military Command School of Communications - in 2008. St. Petersburg Higher Military Engineering School of Communications - in 2000. Nizhny Novgorod Military Institute of Engineering Troops - in 2012. Tambov Higher Military Command Red Banner School of Chemical Defense named after N. I. Podvoisky - in 2003. Saratov Military Institute of Biological and Chemical Safety - in 2012. St. Petersburg Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of the Order of the Red Star - in 1998. Orenburg Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile School (Military Institute) - in 2008. Air Force Academy named after Yu. A. Gagarin (Monino) - in 2011. Leningrad Higher Militarypolitical The air defense school was disbanded in 1992.

This is not all.

The Nizhny Novgorod Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of Air Defense was disbanded in 1999. Engels Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of Air Defense - in 1994. St. Petersburg Higher Military School of Radio Electronics - in 2011. Krasnoyarsk Higher Command School of Air Defense Radio Electronics - in 1998. Stavropol Higher Military Aviation School for Pilots and Navigators - in 2010. Kurgan Military Aviation Technical School - in 1995. Barnaul Higher Military Aviation School for Pilots named after Chief Marshal of Aviation K. A. Vershinin - in 1999. Yeisk Higher Military Aviation Order of Lenin School of Pilots named after twice Hero of the Soviet Union, Pilot-Cosmonaut of the USSR V. M. Komarov - in 2011. Kachinskoye Higher Military Aviation Order of Lenin Red Banner Pilot School named after A.F. Myasnikov (Volgograd) - in 1998. Orenburg Higher Military Aviation Red Banner School of Pilots named after twice Hero of the Soviet Union I.S. Polbin - in 1993. Tambov Higher Military Aviation Red Banner Pilot School named after M. M. Raskova - in 1995. Ufa Higher Military Aviation School for Pilots - in 1999. Irkutsk Higher Military Aviation Engineering School - in 2009. Tambov Higher Military Aviation Engineering School - in 2009. Achinsk Military Aviation Technical School - in 1999. Kaliningrad Military Aviation Technical School - in 1994. Kirov Military Aviation Technical School - in 2007. Lomonosov Military Aviation Technical School (Lebyazhye) - in 1994. Perm Military Aviation Technical School named after Lenin Komsomol - in 1999. Krasnodar Higher Military Command and Engineering School of Missile Forces - in 1998. Perm Military Institute of Missile Forces - in 2003. Rostov Military Institute of Missile Forces - in 2011. Stavropol Military Communications Institute of the Rocket Forces - in 2010. The North Caucasian Military Institute of Internal Troops (Vladikavkaz) was disbanded in 2011.

What a monstrous blow to the combat effectiveness of the Russian army was inflicted as a result of these "reforms" became obvious during the NMD in Ukraine. Could this have been avoided? Some readers reproach the fact that we allegedly blame everything only on Serdyukov, who has not been a minister for 10 years. But the fact remains - all the current problems were laid down precisely under him. However, in fairness, it should be noted that his successor as head of the Russian Defense Ministry, Sergei Shoigu, could have done more for the army over the past 10 years if he had revised the results of his predecessor's "reforms" in a timely and complete manner.

Yes, Sergei Kuzhugetovich did something immediately after his appointment. In particular, it was decided to return to service many thousands of previously "optimized" officers:

Let's bring back those officers who were the color of science, the color of military education.

In 2013, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced its readiness to return some of the reduced warrant officers and midshipmen, Alexei Zhuravlev, a member of the State Duma Defense Committee of the Russian Federation, explained with reference to the data of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Nikolai Pankov:

According to Deputy Defense Minister Nikolai Pankov, today we are talking about the return of approximately 55 positions of ensigns and midshipmen, although it should be noted that before 2009 we had 142 of them.

Also in 2015, six military schools were restored: the Novosibirsk and Khabarovsk Higher Combined Arms Command Schools (previously were branches of the VUNTS of the Ground Forces of the former Moscow Academy named after M.V. Frunze), the Krasnodar Higher Military School (formerly merged with the St. S. M. Budyonny), Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School for Pilots. A. K. Serov (formerly a branch of the Voronezh VUNTS named after Yu. A. Gagarin), the Yaroslavl Higher Military School of Air Defense (formerly included in the St. Petersburg Academy named after A. F. Mozhaisky) and the St. Petersburg Military Institute of Physical Education (formerly a branch of the Military medical academy). Earlier, Defense Minister Shoigu suspended the inclusion of the Air Defense Academy in Tver into the Academy. A.F. Mozhaisky, and also restored the independence of the Ryazan airborne and Tyumen engineering schools.

In the field of military medicine, Sergei Kuzhugetovich canceled the relocation of the Kirov Military Medical Academy from the center of St. Petersburg to the Leningrad Region and suspended the closure of a number of military hospitals in the Russian regions. It should also be noted that Shoigu did not follow the lead of domestic syslibs from the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, who in 2020 proposed to cut another 100 positions in the Russian army. Partially rewound the transition to the brigades. So, in 2013, the 4th Guards Tank and 5th Guards Motorized Rifle Brigades again became the Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya divisions.

A year ago, the head of the Main Directorate of Combat Training of the Russian Armed Forces, Colonel-General Ivan Buvaltsev, assessing the results of military reforms, in a publication on the Krasnaya Zvezda portal, described the combat capability of the modern Russian army as follows:

At present, the Russian Armed Forces are among the best in the world... The combat training system has allowed the Russian army and navy to reach the level of combat readiness and combat capability of the world's leading armies. And in some respects even surpass them.

However, a full return to the previous system of military division and control under Shoigu did not happen. The same can be said about the system of military education in the country, which has not been fully restored over the past 10 years. "Serdyukov's" reforms, in essence, were slightly "finished with a file" and retouched, but they continue to operate and bear their poisonous fruits.

It remains to be hoped that at least after the SVO adequate conclusions will be drawn and the former, “pre-reform” system will be restored.

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Sergey Latyshev

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18 November 2022 15: 24

And again "should, must, must ...".
Personnel decide everything ... and they are all the same "effective managers in the pocket"
1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich
  
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  19 November 2022 13: 41
  
  Maybe you are right about something, but start expressing your thoughts more competently, do you like being like that?
  1. Sergey Latyshev
    
    +1
    
    20 November 2022 09: 55
    
    So, it's inconvenient on the phone. Sometimes yes, I make stupid spelling mistakes. I admit (((
    1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich
      
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      23 November 2022 15: 48
      
      I'm glad you didn't get offended.
2. prior
  
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  20 November 2022 11: 11
  
  Without a change of power in the country, military reform is useless!
  The army should protect the country and the people, not the government and the oligarchs.
  It is impossible to effectively protect those who are hated by the people.
sgrabik

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18 November 2022 15: 56

Well, finally, an understanding gradually comes of what the liberal sycophants have done over all these 30 years, that for the sake of the collective West they have ruined the combat capability of our army, high-quality military education and military economy - this is beyond doubt, even over the military-industrial complex their dirty greedy paws disbanded, but as they say, it's better late than never, now there is a big and long work to restore everything that we lost as a result of all these thoughtless and ridiculous, so-called liberal "reforms" and "optimizations" that inflicted on our army and navy huge harm.
Alexey Davydov

+9

18 November 2022 15: 59

The head does not want this, Sergey. That's the problem. The legs will go if the head wants, and with THIS head a long time ago everything is clear to everyone.
That's when these ALL understand that this head is wasting their future blood and their lives, then they will take care of it and change it to another in an efficient and competent way
Downed pilot

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18 November 2022 16: 05

Will there be NVP?
Nelton

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18 November 2022 16: 11

How the “reformed” army by Serdyukov is now fighting in Ukraine with these same brigades, everyone can already see perfectly. Obviously, something urgently needs to be changed, but what?

It's not about the ground brigades there.

The modern army is a high-precision intelligence that identifies targets in real time (these are satellites and reconnaissance UAVs),
+ mobile, possibly unmanned platforms with weapons that quickly strike at identified targets.

those. it's all about electronics.
1. sgrabik
  
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  18 November 2022 16: 43
  
  The main thing is people, professional, motivated and competent specialists who will be able to create everything necessary to provide our army and navy with the most modern and effective weapons.
  1. Nelton
    
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    19 November 2022 22: 46
    
    People are also required to create a component base, but by no means herds, and not "shoulder straps".
  2. borisvt
    
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    20 November 2022 10: 17
    
    Yes, and the author, as usual, sees the root, and you are right, but people need to be paid, and more literate people are also desirable.
    These are budget spending, which means raising taxes or cutting other items. If you look at the list of closed and disbanded, which Sergei impressed, imagine what a gigantic amount for their maintenance! Decisions will not be easy, and we, ordinary taxpayers, will shell out for it. Hmm ((
    1. Alexey Davydov
      
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      20 November 2022 14: 30
      
      Decisions will not be easy, and we, ordinary taxpayers, will shell out for it. Hmm
      
      Strange you and others like you argue.
      Do you think that the ugliness of the colonial state, which disfigured the country for 30 years, dismantling production and the army, withdrawing huge funds from its development, sending them to the West and into the pockets of the elite, finally brought it to this point, will not influence the further development of events and our destiny? in a decisive way.
      Is it possible to forget all this like that, and start with the previous government from a "white sheet"? And also grimacing that you have to pay for it.
      Don't you think about the fact that this money needs to be taken out of the very pockets where they were pumped by the country for 30 years? After all, all the same, the country will have to change the power and system to the power of the people - this is obvious, otherwise it will perish, along with us and on its way to a brighter future for all mankind.
      We supported the betrayal of Yeltsin, Putin and the authorities by our own betrayal of the memory and deeds of our glorious ancestors. Now we have to return to the path they have chosen for us, cleanse ourselves and cleanse our country.
      1. borisvt
        
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        20 November 2022 15: 41
        
        A good idea
        
        But you don’t think about the fact that this money needs to be taken out of the very pockets where they were pumped by the country for 30 years
        
        however, very difficult to implement. Money, let me remind you, is not pieces of paper and circles, it is a momentary substance that is spent at the moment of occurrence, so to speak - materialized labor and the operation of existing equipment. And those that were pumped are not in pockets for a long time, but spent ((
        Therefore, of course, the renewal of military affairs in the form of education, provision and being in the service will require new costs, where to go!
        And I would add, in addition to the problem rightly posed by the author, the question of resuming the presence closer to American territory - in Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico, finally, if it is possible to agree. It will be a serious thorn under the enemy's nail
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
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        20 November 2022 17: 00
        
        And those that were pumped are not in pockets for a long time, but spent
        
        You can’t return them, but what remains in these pockets is embodied in the form of assets, as well as the Central Bank, must be completely nationalized and subordinated to the power of the people, and then he, or rather the new mass popular ruling party, will be able to decide how to dispose of this in interests of the country
        
        borisvt
        
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        20 November 2022 19: 36
        
        Oh, these dreams about the just power of the people!
        Come on, Alexei, I managed to work under socialism, the nomenklatura and the aged Central Committee, that's all the power of the people. The institution of propiska, queues and officials is an invariable result of various socialist and communist theories, it has long been proven by economists.
        
        Alexey Davydov
        
        0
        
        20 November 2022 22: 53
        
        With all the decline of the "standard" model of socialism, which we all found, the USSR was a powerful, industrial multinational country, consisting of 15 friendly republics, possessing a victorious communist ideology, based on the international economic system of the division of socialist labor (CMEA), a powerful military bloc of the Warsaw Pact , and the world socialist system consisting of 15 countries.
        Our ancestors chose this path, checked its correctness, defended it in a deadly battle with the united West and raised it to a height. This is their legacy.
        With him, we were also given the problem of this "standard" model of socialism, which they could not solve, but only approached it.
        The solution is to abandon the "standard" model and seek each nation its own national model of socialism. China has already done it.
        Probably the standard model of socialism simply does not exist in nature. The creation of a common system of government for all nations simply moves to the next stage in the development of mankind.
        About the reason for the collapse of the "standard" model in our country and the ways of building a national model, I wrote in the article:
        How can socialism get out of the “blind spot” trap?
        https://dzen.ru/media/id/5fe624c58b9da069054d7540/kak-socializmu-vybratsia-iz-lovushki-slepogo-piatna-63449943f244975b505f6346
    2. Rusa
      
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      24 November 2022 21: 14
      
      ...And we, ordinary taxpayers, will shell out for it.
      
      So after Serdyukov's reforms we are shelling out. Increased several times: housing and communal services tariffs, prices for food and consumer goods, for services, for travel in public transport, etc. At the same time, the oligarchs became even more.
2. Vox_Populi
  
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  19 November 2022 09: 41
  
  those. it's all electronics
  
  + competent political and military leadership ...
  1. Vdars
    
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    19 November 2022 13: 28
    
    Without IDEOLOGY, there is NO competent political leadership!!
3. Rusa
  
  0
  
  24 November 2022 20: 30
  
  ...those. it's all electronics
  
  So why, then, in the Russian Federation, military universities of radio electronics and communications were liquidated?
  1. Nelton
    
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    24 November 2022 23: 21
    
    And what, was there any sense from them, in the aspect of creating electronic components?
    1. Rusa
      
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      25 November 2022 08: 08
      
      Of course. Currently, officers in the missile forces and research institutes do not work without higher education, and even more so in the field of microelectronics. Only stools do not understand this.
Vladimir Tuzakov

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18 November 2022 16: 29

The article lacks the main thing - the Serdyukov reform was conceived and launched by the liberal elite in power (D. Medvedev is the president, A. Chubais is the main ideologist, liberal forces in ministers, etc.) and replaced the paradigm of serving the Motherland, with serving the clan for money in power . Further, the patriotic officer corps was replaced with sycophants and hangers-on, which is what we see in the NWO. A recent case when the mobilized demand high-quality training, and the lieutenant colonel, with his hands in his pockets, is silent and mumbles, because this is not an officer with responsibility, but a hired employee for money, serving the prescribed 8 hours on the territory of the unit. By a pseudo-reform, or rather by collapse, they destroyed the RF Armed Forces as a patriotic force capable of defending the interests of the Russian state. Further, after the defeat of the officer corps of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the plundering of the wealth of the Russian Federation and the withdrawal of what was received abroad no longer had any obstacles.
1. Alexey Davydov
  
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  18 November 2022 16: 39
  
  I did not see the main person in your list of authors - Putin, their leader. He chose Serdyukov, and no one doubts that behind Medvedev's back, like behind a dummy, he also stood and directed everything.
  For those who have forgotten - the reform ended in 2020
Nikolaevich I

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18 November 2022 17: 48

Yes ... "purely civilian" and "chief furniture makers" in the defense ministers have done great harm! But who appointed them? Under whom did this happen? Under Putin! Who approved the gloomy, moronic "reforms" in the VSR? Putin! Putin is the main culprit of the mess that "reigned" in the economy, the country's domestic policy; in the preparation, armament, organization of the Armed Forces!
Indifferent

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18 November 2022 20: 18

As always, the author decided to change the furniture in a famous house, but girls need to!
Vladimir1155

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18 November 2022 21: 29

the author simply repeats after those who are not happy with everything, of course the author is wrong, .... why? listing how, in his opinion, it is not necessary to do (close universities and dismiss officers), he does not offer an option, but how to do (What to do?) own list of closed military schools but I don’t feel sorry, in my opinion, I’m almost the only one who can think at all, and the majority can only emotionally lament about Serdyukov, who passed away 10 years ago)

So an increase in the number of officers and military schools will not give anything, only expenses, it is necessary
1 to abolish academic degrees in universities, as a brake on the admission of military officers there, and in civilian universities a brake on the admission of experienced specialists there (all the more so since all these academic degrees are bought 100 percent today), build the education system according to the type of lecturer, teacher of practice, and there and there are only retirees with service experience or former employees of military science. To increase the allowance of lecturers many times over (and a bonus for the experience of military operations) in order to attract retired generals and colonels, as well as military scientists of the highest level. Reduce the number of military institutions but increase the flow of cadets in the remaining ones.

2 Cancel admission to higher military and civilian educational institutions after grade 11 (and cancel grades 9-11 in schools, replacing them with colleges in specialties) admission to military universities only ensigns and midshipmen after graduating from a military college (i.e. Suvorov or cadet corps with the assignment of a military specialty and rank of sergeant, with the right to be promoted to ensign midshipman during a two-year military service), (actually, it was not me who suggested it, but Peter the Great, a long time ago) that the officer should start serving as a sergeant like Suvorov and Zhukov, and not hide behind the general's daddy.
3 to revive the guardhouse and simplify the placement of people there who have committed offenses or who do not give a damn about the service
4 dismiss all admirals and those generals who did not show successful leadership of the troops, give promotions to officers involved in hostilities
5 henceforth promotions and assignment of ranks only based on the results of military and naval exercises
6 to increase the responsibility of officials and generals for military purchases up to a criminal term with confiscation.
7 to revive the rule, the military councils of the unit with the expressed starting from the junior position with the final decision of the senior position.....
Watching

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19 November 2022 00: 45

Summarizing, we can say the following: Russian military education lags behind Anglo-Saxony. Think: the Russian army in the Ukrainian conflict suffers defeat after defeat, the Anglo-Saxons prepared ukrov according to their system. Conclusion? Learn from the Anglo-Saxons and their system. I'm not kidding, unfortunately.
1. Vladimir1155
  
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  19 November 2022 12: 38
  
  I wouldn’t say, the Anglo-Saxons are fighting even worse, at the level of operational command, a brigade, a battalion, a company, a platoon, ours are fighting better than the Ukrainian fascists, our military equipment and methods of war are also better, it’s just that Ukrainians flood their offensives with cannon fodder, ... our miscalculations are strategic, at the level of high command (incorrectly chosen directions of the main blows and mistakes in the highest policy and assessment of the mood of the Ukrainian society (no one read Walter Lippmann at the top)) and corruption at the level of procurement of military equipment and weapons
2. Rusa
  
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  24 November 2022 21: 43
  
  ...Conclusion? Learn from the Anglo-Saxons and their system.
  
  That is, you propose that Russian soldiers kill prisoners of war, women, children and the elderly, bomb cities and villages with civilians as Ukronazis under the leadership of the Anglo-Saxons? The Nazi system, however. )
Pavel Vladimirovich

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19 November 2022 08: 49

The result of the military operation should be an analysis of the processes of probable theft both in the rear system and in related services.
There are serious questions about the activities of civil defense and emergency situations.
Is it by chance that civil defense and emergency situations should not be responsible for the preparation and maintenance of elementary bomb shelters?
1. zenion
  
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  19 November 2022 13: 57
  
  There is no doubt that there were thefts!
Jstas

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19 November 2022 09: 22

Burning in our hearts is love for our dear land,
We are going into mortal combat for the honor of our native country.
Cities burning in smoke
The harsh god of war thunders in gray forests.

Gunners, Stalin gave the order!
Gunners, the Fatherland is calling us!
Of hundreds of thousands of batteries
For the tears of our mothers
For our Motherland - fire! Fire!

Find out, dear mother, find out the wife-friend,
Find out, a distant home and my whole family,
What hits and burns the enemy is our steel blizzard,
That we carry the will to our native lands!

Gunners, Stalin gave the order!
Gunners, the Fatherland is calling us!
Of hundreds of thousands of batteries
For the tears of our mothers
For our Motherland - fire! Fire!

The hour of victory will strike, the end of campaigns will come.
But before you go to your family’s homes,
In honor of our Leader, in honor of our people
We will give a salute in the victorious hour!

Gunners, Stalin gave the order!
Gunners, the Fatherland is calling us!
Of hundreds of thousands of batteries
For the tears of our mothers
For our Motherland - fire! Fire!
1. borisvt
  
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  20 November 2022 15: 37
  
  Magnificent, immortal song!
mechanic

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19 November 2022 09: 46

Or maybe pull up diplomacy and learn to live without wars? Learn to defend your interests without leading to war, keep your reserves at home and invest them in the Russian economy, and not with a potential enemy.
Raise the GDP, the economy, the well-being of people, destroy corruption and bureaucracy.
And then others will reach out to us and there will be no need to frighten anyone with rockets.
I'm tired of working for weapons and living in eternal fear.
1. sgrabik
  
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  19 November 2022 10: 12
  
  Yuri, you tell all this to our "hotly beloved" Western "partners", they will immediately listen and begin to treat Russia with respect and friendliness, unfortunately not everything depends only on us and our desires, but one thing is clear - to surrender national interests for the sake of Western cookies, no one else will, no one wants a repetition of the liberal 90s, it’s already enough to scoff at the country, pre-liberalized to the limit, or maybe you haven’t experienced this time yourself.
  1. mechanic
    
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    19 November 2022 11: 18
    
    So after all, it was our government that kept all the reserves with a potential enemy, and not me. It was our government that reshaped medicine, education to Western standards, tried to introduce yuvinalka. It was our government that tried in every possible way to please the West, introducing Western norms and rules into our lives everywhere, spending huge amounts of money on the Olympics and Championships.
    Well, why complain now? They treat us like that, like an offended schoolboy who was not accepted into the high school society.
    And if for the last 20 years they had defended their national interests, they would invest money in themselves, and not in the United States, build their own, national systems of education, medicine, the Army, and not stupidly copy them from the West.
    We developed our own electronics industry, built our own machines, and did not stupidly buy them in the West, and we would not have found ourselves in today's situation: with frozen assets and a terrible shortage of industrial spare parts. parts from the West.
    And instead of rethinking precisely these failures and correcting them, the authorities again took up the XNUMXth "radical" reconstruction of the Army.
    And what did they do for 25 years?
    1. Vladimir1155
      
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      19 November 2022 12: 23
      
      Quote: Mechanic
      And if for the last 20 years they had defended their national interests, they would invest money in themselves, and not in the United States, build their own, national systems of education, medicine, the Army, and not stupidly copy them from the West.
      
      but remember the insane admiration for the West of the MOST of the people in the 80s? the people went crazy and logically chose Yeltsin, and gave their country to be plundered, but where were the communists? why didn't they advocate Gorbachev's resignation at their meetings (except for Nina Andreeva)? careerists and stupid people turned out to be there .... the methods of the smart Walter Lippman, who invented the Cold War, defeated the methods of Mikhail Suslov, the village rogue kurkul and stupid ... unfortunately Walter Lippmann is not known and does not understand even now, those who lead the country and its information field .. .... the people who apostatized from God in 1972 are insane, and now they are also insane in the majority
      1. mechanic
        
        +5
        
        19 November 2022 13: 20
        
        The people, for the most part, do not have critical thinking.
        For some reason, people believe that those people who "created" our Army for 20 years can somehow make it differently if they are entrusted with it again.
        They will do it in exactly the same way and we will not know for another 20 years, until the next mess, what the combat readiness of our Army is.
        We have been paying taxes for 20 years, only to find out now that they have gone into the sand, and our Army is by no means the 2nd in the world, as the authorities claimed.
        
        Vladimir1155
        
        0
        
        19 November 2022 15: 42
        
        our army did not even claim to be the second in the world, you are confusing it with the Soviet army, .. our ramie is the second or third in strategic nuclear forces, and can also wage one local conflict without using strategic nuclear forces
2. anyname
  
  0
  
  19 November 2022 23: 34
  
  Rave. This nonsense does not work for Americans and Europeans. They have low intelligence and boundless greed. Only the muzzle of a machine gun and a burst fired at the temple will make it possible to defend against Europeans and Americans.
3. Rusa
  
  0
  
  24 November 2022 22: 14
  
  ...And learn to live without wars?
  
  Obviously, Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevardnadze and their other accomplices wanted just that: they withdrew troops from Afghanistan, merged the GDR and the Warsaw Pact, blew the USSR to the delight of NATO and the Anglo-Saxons. And that the reforms of Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais made the common people of the Russian Federation happy? No.
  The process will not go ahead without strengthening the national security of the country, Lenin and Stalin spoke about this. Today, the West aims to destroy the Russian Federation, therefore, "defending its interests" without a powerful Armed Forces will not work, history is a witness to this.
Andrey Andreev_2

+4

19 November 2022 13: 24

The rear of the Armed Forces must also be restored, military science, the military-industrial complex ... Otherwise, these figures competed who could cause more harm to the army (((But serious reforms are beyond the power of old farts))) Young people in power!
Vasya 225

+6

19 November 2022 13: 40

The list includes the St. Petersburg Military Institute of Radio Electronics (in Gorelovo). It was the last place of training for RTV officers. No more. The remnants were transferred to Voronezh to the Zhugarin Academy (it was kicked out from Moscow to Voronezh and the air force academies of Zhukovsky and Gagarin were merged, adding Voronezh and St. doesn't sink.
Vasya 225

+5

19 November 2022 13: 45

Bad staffing. Hence Serdyukovism, Zurabovism, Rogozinism, Arbigolikovism, etc.
zenion

+3

19 November 2022 13: 51

Wherever there is a problem, it is not a problem of one organ, it is a problem of the whole organism! There is a proverb - from a bad head there is no rest for the legs.
Only honestly

+5

19 November 2022 16: 04

Firstly, no defense minister would have done so much harm without the confirmation of the State Duma and the President. Secondly, Serdyukov died, no. Lives, fattens, harms in another place. And now, gentlemen, the question is, Who ruined all of the above?
Therefore, Serdyukov lives in peace, enjoying all the benefits of Russian society, and does not feed lice in Kolyma, where he belongs.
1. Rusa
  
  +1
  
  24 November 2022 22: 31
  
  Why should Serdyukov "feed the lice in Kolyma"? You yourself write that it was not without the consent of the highest authorities in the person of the State Duma and the President. For some reason, the author of the publication did not say this, he kept silent.
anyname

+2

19 November 2022 23: 31

Military reforms take place in any country after any war. But in Russia, these reforms will be ostentatious, and the failed aged leadership will continue to digest resources and time in the slop.

In my opinion, the problem is not in the brigade structure of the army, but in its low numbers and the insanity of the president.
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Alex D

+2

20 November 2022 09: 45

It is high time to come to terms with the fact that this power is not ours. This power was planted by our enemies - the Anglo-Saxons, and they merged and are still merging all the reforms at the behest of Washington. There is such an organization Chabad-Lubavitch, which sculpted all this. To begin with, the Accounts Chamber must report to the president, and the latter to the people. But until the power is cardinally changed, nothing will change.
They have all our raw materials revenue. This is 10-15 trillion dollars over 30 years, taking into account the depreciation of the currency, this is already 20-30 trillion over 30 years. Those. we were robbed by these crooks for 200 thousand dollars each. This is the point. It is necessary to change the power, or go to Buddhism / Islam as a country and live in the East. And the Jews themselves will merge as they have merged in the east.
1. Nelton
  
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  20 November 2022 12: 08
  
  Quote from Alex D
  by order from Washington.
  
  So the annexation of the Crimea and the NVO turns out the same at the behest of Washington.
  Do you propose to start an independent policy with the abandonment of the imposed Crimea and Kherson?
  Oh yes, they have already left Kherson, the first step towards an independent policy!
  
  ...That was sarcasm...
  1. Alexey Davydov
    
    +1
    
    21 November 2022 02: 10
    
    Comment by Nelton:
    So the annexation of Crimea and the NVO turns out the same at the behest of Washington
    
    You're right. It turns out the same according to the instructions.
    They gave Crimea for a while to ignite a conflict between Ukraine and Russia, and then they froze it with Putin's hands in order to bring Ukraine to the desired condition. They brought it.
    Upon readiness, they gave Putin a command for the NWO - he introduced it.
    Now the Anglo-Saxons, continuing to deplete and bleed Russia in Ukraine, can easily draw it into a war with NATO by sabotage at nuclear power plants.
    After NATO, according to their plan, destroys Russia, Crimea, together with its resources, will fall into the "clean" hands of the Anglo-Saxons, as well as Europe, weakened and exhausted by the war with Russia. The Anglo-Saxons will reign on two continents.
    This is how your sarcasm can be useful for analysis
    1. Nelton
      
      0
      
      21 November 2022 11: 04
      
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      After NATO destroys Russia according to their plan, Crimea, along with its resources, will fall into the "clean" hands of the Anglo-Saxons,
      
      If Russia weakens so much that it remains only to be occupied by two platoons of military police, then it will be quickly occupied by China to the Urals, with all the main resources.
      
      obviously...
      
      And even more so, the Anglo-Saxons are not enemies to themselves, to bring the country with nuclear weapons to collapse. Well, as soon as Kadyrov ends up in power, he will be forced to press the trigger ...
      
      So I'm sorry, but all these theories -
      and about the externally controlled RF,
      and about plans to seize Russian resources -
      
      do not fit into elementary logic.
      
      And more about resources -
      (once again I will be a bore with numbers)
      Russia sells them for $ 277 billion a year (2021), even if the United States gets them all, this will not give them anything.
      Their legendary public debt grew by $310 billion in a month, by almost $3 trillion in a year.
      At the same time, as the practice of democratized countries (Iraq, Libya) shows, many people are developing oil there, including the Russian Lukoil, they sell it to different countries and spend the proceeds on products from different countries, and do not hand over to Washington's cash desk.
      
      So once again, the main claim of the West to the Russian Federation is to undermine their role as a world hegemon.
Alex D

+2

20 November 2022 09: 51

Quote: Only honestly
Firstly, no defense minister would have done so much harm without the confirmation of the State Duma and the President. Secondly, Serdyukov died, no. Lives, fattens, harms in another place. And now, gentlemen, the question is, Who ruined all of the above?
Therefore, Serdyukov lives in peace, enjoying all the benefits of Russian society, and does not feed lice in Kolyma, where he belongs.

Ilyukhin remembers the activities of the authorities for the Defense, spoke sharply and died strangely suddenly. We are being led according to the Washington scenario.
kriten

+4

20 November 2022 12: 10

It is useless to carry out military reform if it is entrusted to the current cadres who have sat in their places for half their lives. There will be only silent sabotage. They had a good life as it is. The same, by the way, in the economy. It cannot be made mobilization based on the old apparatus, the main condition for the operation of which was kickbacks.
Ignatov Oleg Georgievich

0

20 November 2022 12: 37

I read the comments and the main idea is the same for everyone - Atu his atu. Or - Fire, screaming, fire ... they came with fire. Brad is short! None of the commentators is able to think, analyze, or bother with the history of the issue itself, or the reasons for which, since 1957, the Army has demanded literally reforms. As we see long before Serdyukov. And if someone blames Serdyukov for everything, then they are either fools or just provocateurs. The reform of the Army generally does not apply in any way either to Serdyukov or Shoigu, or in general to any military man of any rank. This is a POLITICAL decision, the responsibility for which is solely the head of state. The Minister of Defense is only an executor or a person reporting to the head of state in the person of the Commander-in-Chief his proposals on a particular issue. ALL!!! Well, they forgot about Serdyukov?
Further, none of the local detractors of the reforms (Serdyukov) most likely, or rather, do not know at all that percentage of the number of the Armed Forces in peacetime. The author himself has no idea about this either. Yes, he did a great job of revealing a huge number of everything that was disbanded, but not a word or even a hint provided that huge hole in the state budget that these formations created. Decades. Serdyukov once said about the command staff - Today (at that time) there are more lieutenant colonels and colonels in the Army than lieutenants!
In general, if anyone really wants to know how and why reforms were carried out in the Army - study history and do not invent anything, and do not believe the evil ones! Well, about the author, behind whom there is no higher military education, one can judge only as a writer, nothing more.
1. White Wolf
  
  +3
  
  20 November 2022 20: 59
  
  I'm afraid I disagree with most of the comments. There are enough brains in Russia. The question is different - do the ruling group need these brains? I think no . Remember Glazyev's project - Saving the Russian economy. After all, it was the result of the All-Russian Economic Conference with the participation of all economists and scientists in Russia! The result - the plan of Russia's leading economists in the wastebasket. The author is kicked from the old square.
  The intelligence of the ruling group in Russia (this is not even a class) is so low that for them attempts to convey to them economic, political, social, technological, etc. problems as a whole is perceived as wind noise in the branches. Well, or at best, like the fairy tales of Arina Rodionovna.
  A simple example. In order to assemble the FAU-1945 rockets of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of State Security of the USSR under the leadership of Marshal of the USSR Beria in 2, 13 or 15 people were found throughout the USSR capable of assembling rockets! Moreover, they were taken along with their artisanal tools. Because there were no tools. And this is in a country that produced the best fighters and tanks in the world! This is what the concept of ANOTHER TECHNOLOGICAL LEVEL means!
  And as long as this UElite remains in power, talking about the industrialization of Russia is like spitting on a fan.
  1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    
    -3
    
    21 November 2022 05: 26
    
    White wolf, so go to power in a legal democratic way, through elections among the population of the country and with your mighty boot-intelligence stomp menacingly on the dirty and rotting floor of modern power. But... for such saviors and the last wino will not vote. Here it is necessary .... That's why no one wants again - For what they fought for it and ran into it or - no one wants to spit on the vintilator of any rabble.
  2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    
    0
    
    21 November 2022 06: 09
    
    White wolf, you are absolutely ignorant about the rocket industry in the USSR after the war. You don't even know what even first graders know about how many German scientists and engineers participated in the creation of the rocket industry in the post-war USSR. How much unique equipment the Soviet Union took out of defeated Germany. In your country, we assembled rockets on our knees ... with a handicraft tool! 13 or 15 people? I've never heard more bullshit! Entire design bureaus and factories worked with hundreds of trained specialists!
2. Vasya 225
  
  +1
  
  20 November 2022 22: 06
  
  Appointing Serdyukov to correct shortcomings is like treating malaria with syphilis.
3. Alexey Davydov
  
  +1
  
  21 November 2022 02: 39
  
  Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
  This is a POLITICAL decision, the responsibility for which is solely the head of state.
  
  This time, Oleg, I agree with you.
  
  Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
  ... but not a word or even a hint provided that huge hole in the state budget that these formations created. Decades.
  
  If the basic principle is to take the well-being of the elite, plundering the economy.
  Then yes. Certainly yes!
  Superfluous then automatically becomes the army, education, production, medicine, etc., etc. The president must first of all take care of the well-being of the elite. This is the main thing. How else?
  1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    
    +2
    
    21 November 2022 05: 38
    
    Alexey, before you scoff, let's get down to business, huh? Name the amount that the state spent on maintaining a huge army in peacetime, taking into account that the army was sometimes used for other purposes at all, both in construction and agriculture. Maybe that's why the huge Army under the leadership of the CPSU could not stop the collapse of the Soviet Union, which the united Europe under the leadership of Nazi Germany could not destroy? Did you even serve in the SA during the USSR? And about the elite - are you tired of this hackneyed record? Well, how many times to repeat to you and your like that there is not and never has been a single state without the best and smartest representatives of the people who elevated them to the very pinnacle of power by making them their elite! You are talking about the people in power. Really does not reach that it will also be an elite? How will you fight them?
    1. Alexey Davydov
      
      +1
      
      21 November 2022 13: 17
      
      Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
      ... not a single state has ever existed without the best and smartest representatives of the people who elevated them to the very pinnacle of power by making them their elite!
      
      Well, you have revealed your class affiliation.
      It is easier for a camel to slip through the eye of a needle than for an elite to accept views that exclude their own elitism.
      As for you and the rest of the elite, it was not the people who “raised you to the very pinnacle of power”, but the Americans, who prepared and staged a coup in Moscow in 1991-1992. The preparation, just included the processing of gullible people through the media, which had previously acquired them by the "fifth column" of the States. Our "typical" model of socialism was already sick then - the Americans took advantage of this.
      Our people did not elevate you anywhere - they simply did not rebel. This turned out to be quite enough for the Americans and for all of you.
      That's Oleg. In such a cut
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
        
        0
        
        21 November 2022 19: 06
        
        Alexei, are you all right with your head? Am I from the elite? Yes, I am a simple person with a secondary education and have long been retired. He worked all his life behind the steering wheel. And all my * elitism * is that I have worked honestly all my life and I work to the best of my ability and now - as a watchman for 13 thousand. rub per month. Yeah... elite salary! Like you, you sometimes need to be reminded that provoking the overthrow of the legitimately elected government is fraught. That's it Alex. In this section.
  2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    
    0
    
    21 November 2022 11: 34
    
    Alexei, if you take this as a basic principle - If grandmother had a penis, she would be a grandfather, then with such a principle as a basis, there would be nothing to talk about at all. It is superfluous, that is, to talk about the army and about education and other structures of the state. If the interlocutor's consciousness is tuned - upside down and he lives in his own world of crooked truths, then this is already abnormal. How do you think? Do you need help or will it go away on its own?
vlad127490

+2

21 November 2022 13: 25

The result of the NWO in Ukraine is to arrange the surrender of the Russian Federation, then begin to carry out military reform. RAVE. Where is the VICTORY? In the name of what did the citizens of the former Soviet Union die??? Blame the generals for all the sins, as Serdyukov is accused. Who gives orders to the generals? Who arranged 30 years of genocide of the Russian people? We must look at the root, at the origins.
1. Alexey Davydov
  
  0
  
  21 November 2022 13: 40
  
  Who arranged 30 years of genocide of the Russian people?
  
  The answer is known - those who, throughout our history, have ALWAYS needed it
2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
  
  0
  
  21 November 2022 19: 10
  
  vlad, so who arranged the genocide of the Russian people for 30 years? And do you even understand the meaning of the word - genocide?
  1. vlad127490
    
    0
    
    22 November 2022 16: 40
    
    Population loss in the Russian Federation over 30 years (until 2020) 21 million people. What is it called?
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
      
      0
      
      22 November 2022 20: 48
      
      This is called the statistics of natural (aging, age) population decline, which exists in any state on planet Earth. No one has yet died of starvation. Well, okay, now the specifics - For 30 years of genocide, and guess who is to blame, you are pushing the respondent to say - Well, of course Putin. However, vlad, Putin has been in power for 20 years. It means that he is definitely not with his introduction of maternity capital and a lot of benefits for women and children. Now let's see who we had in power for the remaining 10 years. Gentlemen Gorbachev and Yeltsin, right? Well, again, this is not the main thing, but the one who brought the country to collapse collapse and basically became the cause of a simply catastrophic decline in the population of the USSR. Can you tell me the culprit? I'll tell you - the CPSU. Here to them and present your claims, vlad. But they are again eager for power, which means one thing - to finish off everything that was not finished off from the USSR. Read what a certain Alexey Davydov writes here about this and you will understand everything. Well, if you are a serious person and not the same populist projector as Davydov with his fair democracy without an elite.
  2. Vladimir1155
    
    0
    
    23 November 2022 21: 01
    
    Quote: Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    so who arranged the genocide of the Russian people for 30 years?
    
    the genocide of the Russian people was staged by Russian women poisoned by the Western worldview and killing 3 million innocent Russian babies a year, by abortions, as well as that part of the population poisoned by atheism, and embraced by the false ideas of Yaroslavl's Emelka (Gubelman) justly shot by Stalin, who drinks vodka and dies under 50 self-poisoned by atheism
    1. Vladimir1155
      
      0
      
      23 November 2022 21: 48
      
      in order to dress up the devastation in the army and life, you need to overcome it in your heads
archer 13

0

23 November 2022 07: 08

And who prevented Shoigu in 10 years from returning everything back. So no, we were engaged in a big top called army games.
1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
  
  0
  
  23 November 2022 11: 03
  
  Sagittarius returned a lot of things, as needed, they will also return.
2. Amper
  
  0
  
  23 November 2022 16: 38
  
  Born to crawl-fly can't...
Amper

+2

23 November 2022 16: 37

The reform should begin with changes to the uniforms of the top and middle command, including the Civil Code and the Defense Ministry. In the new uniform, pockets should be completely absent!
re

0

23 November 2022 17: 09

The Great Soviet Army collapsed in just three or four years. At least already in 93, military trucks with hungry soldiers began to arrive in our village every year to change watermelons for potatoes, then this barefoot army stormed Grozny in 94 and capitulated 2 years later. Reforms need to start in the country, and not separately in the army, with such a level of corruption, all this will only get worse. And moreover, corruption cannot be overcome with executions, the example of China ".. When the security forces searched the Beijing residence of Xu Caihou, one of the highest-ranking Chinese generals, they found so much cash and precious stones there that accounting for this wealth lasted a week, and took it out on 12 trucks The cash was neatly arranged in boxes, many of which remained unopened. And this is far from the limit ... ", and another method is not suitable for the head of state, otherwise the power may slip away.
Zwain

0

23 November 2022 23: 54

.... well, Serdyukov and Vasilyeva have already done it!!!
Kazimir Prutikoff

+1

25 November 2022 11: 40

Everything is as usual with us - until the thunder breaks out, the peasant will not cross himself! We do not have a strategic understanding of the situation and never have. We react to everything reflexively - we solve problems as they arise. And it would be necessary to predict in advance. Of course, all the developments that were made during the Soviet era are helping us out so far. But this cannot go on forever.