Many of the problems of the SVO were laid down during the "reforms" of the RF Armed Forces


Unpleasant, but true. The special military operation for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine revealed a whole range of problems in the Russian army and navy at all levels - intelligence, planning, support and command. Everyone has already heard about this, there is no point in repeating it. The question is how the “second army in the world” got to such a state, who is to blame and what to do?


Probably, the main reason that the special operation has been going on for the ninth month, let's say, with variable results and no end in sight yet, is the holy confidence of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief that he can send troops to Ukraine at any moment and in three day to take Kyiv, putting there "his little man." That is why the Kremlin so condescendingly watched the military preparations in Nezalezhnaya, which were on the rise for all 8 years of the Minsk agreements, and domestic propaganda frivolously ridiculed the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, when it came to the real thing, it was no longer a laughing matter.

Why did the special operation in Ukraine become such a severe test for the modern Russian army, the successor of the famous Soviet one?

Everyone who closely follows the course of the NMD has heard more than once about the complaints of military personnel about some of their commanders who gave them unreasonable orders, as well as about problems with supplies. This, by the way, was one of the reasons for the large number of so-called five hundredth among contract soldiers at the first stage of the special operation. Such information pops up in the media space periodically, to which the RF Ministry of Defense has to respond by changing officers, that is, the problem is, alas, of a systemic nature. The reasons for the current difficulties on the fronts were laid down long ago, during the large-scale reforms of the Russian army.

Even in the inglorious times of President Yeltsin, exclusively professional people were placed at the head of the Ministry of Defense. This is Air Marshal E. I. Shaposhnikov, and Army General P. S. Grachev, and Army General I. N. Rodionov, and the Commander-in-Chief of the Strategic Missile Forces, Marshal of Russia I. D. Sergeev. However, with the coming to power of President Putin, complete strangers began to appear in this key position for the national security of our country.

In 2001, a native of the KGB department for the Leningrad region and a former colleague of Putin, S. B. Ivanov, became Minister of Defense. In 2007, he was replaced by A. Serdyukov, a professional in the furniture trade. And in 2012, after a scandal, the former head of the Russian Emergencies Ministry, S.K. And it would be fine if civilian ministers came and simply "reigned, but did not rule", listening to military professionals. In fact, each of them brought with him his team from the previous service.

The cardinal reform of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, begun under Serdyukov, and his "women's battalion" were not criticized only by the lazy. But here are some shocking facts.

With this "feldmebel", as ill-wishers called it, there was a reduction in the number of officers from 450 thousand people to 150 thousand. More than 70 military educational institutions were liquidated, and the remaining two dozen were “reformed” so that highly qualified teachers who did not want to leave the capital region for the provinces were forced to leave, for years there was not enough fuel, ammunition and other resources for a normal learning process cadets. At the same time, the Center for Military-Strategic Research of the General Staff, the head system structure of military science, was liquidated.

Under Serdyukov, T. A. Fraltsova, who had nothing to do with military affairs, was appointed head of the Main Directorate of Military Education and Science. She was fired after she publicly stated that it was more profitable not to maintain dozens of military universities on the territory of the Russian Federation, but to train future officers of the Russian army in the United States. Instead of her, Ekaterina Priezzheva was appointed, who has practical experience only in the field of circulation of alcoholic products. In fact, today many commanders on the Ukrainian fronts are a product of Serdyukov's reforms.

Separately, it is worth mentioning the introduction of so-called outsourcing in the army, supposedly to reduce non-core workload. In reality, this turned into another “feeding trough” for those close to him, which Sergei Shoigu, Serdyukov’s replacement, had to admit:

The outsourcing system, which had already taken shape by 2012, did not fully justify itself. The tasks of providing troops in combat conditions were not solved. There was no one to feed the soldiers, technique was not repaired, fuel and lubricants were not delivered to the areas of field exits.

And someone else wonders why the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not have 1,5 million sets of uniforms for military personnel, which should have been there according to the documents!

The most important sabotage against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, professionals today call, however, the abolition of their division into regiments, divisions, armies, traditional for Russia, military districts (fronts) and the introduction of a brigade structure. The material and technical base of the disbanded formations was “optimized”, and the newly created brigades no longer had the appropriate logistics support.

We are now witnessing the results of such destructive “reforms” with our own eyes on the Ukrainian fronts. Something turns out to be corrected on the go, but without a radical revision of their results, it is not necessary to talk about some kind of breakthrough.
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  2. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 9 November 2022 17: 09
    +23
    If it were only the army ... So we have the same crap everywhere! Here the order needs to be changed. For under capitalism, the main goal of which is solely the acquisition of dough, and at any cost, it is unprincipled to butt heads with the West .. Because this most coveted dough, by definition, it has orders of magnitude more than Russia ..
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 17: 27
      -24
      Here the order needs to be changed. For under capitalism, the main goal of which is solely the acquisition of dough,

      There was such a comrade - Ulyanov-Lenin, changed once. We still can't get over it.
      And under so-called socialism, what was the main goal? World revolution? Or building a bright future - communism?
      1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
        Paul3390 (Paul) 9 November 2022 18: 16
        +17
        So I'm talking about the same!!! Until now, we can not disentangle, gobble up, shit and paint the legacy of the damned commies!! We have been trying for 30 years - but it still does not end .. What bad people, however, were ..
        1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 20: 38
          -18
          What do you mean?
          In Moscow, a renovation was done a long time ago and the 5-storey Khrushchevs (the heritage of the commies) were demolished long ago.
          1. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 10 November 2022 04: 48
            +8
            This is only in Moscow, because the loot is drawn in the form of taxes from all regions, and in seedy villages there is no money for bridges over rivers and roads
            1. Alexander Ponamarev (Alexander Ponamarev) 10 November 2022 04: 50
              +7
              Moscow has long been leading a parasitic way of life
            2. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 08: 38
              -8
              , and in rundown villages no money left on bridges over rivers and roads

              That's when I hear the phrase "no money left", then I have an excellent recipe for the treatment of this syndrome: you need to drink less and work more.
              1. Down Offline Down
                Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 11: 00
                0
                Tell me where to get factories, for example, earned over several years by Abramovich and others. Only thieves earn money in the country, not one worker, even if he does not drink and works for days, has not made a billion-dollar fortune.
                1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 11: 22
                  -2
                  Here you are, I think, no matter how many factories you give, you will sit here and whine around the clock. There was such a story: ordinary Soviet people won a million rubles in the lottery, and how did they dispose of it? They drank, ate and ate.s.rali. And there are people who, with their abilities, starting from scratch, have become super-rich. Tinkov, for example.
                  I'm not talking about billions of dollars, I'm talking about the amounts sufficient for life.
                  1. zenion Offline zenion
                    zenion (zinovy) 10 November 2022 16: 06
                    0
                    Who plundered the savings banks in which the workers kept their savings? In the evening there was money, in the morning there was no money. Workers stole their money? As it was, let thirty million die, but the rest will live well. And where is this loafer? He washed away with billions, not rubles, but dollars and euros, no complaints against him. Here it is, which you like, are you the same?
                    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 16: 26
                      -2
                      Read about Pavlov's reform, it was even before the ABC. The theft of savings banks started from there.

                      Have you already received your two Volgas? - accept my congratulations!
                      And do not forget to wash them, otherwise they will drive badly. lol
                      1. zenion Offline zenion
                        zenion (zinovy) 10 November 2022 16: 52
                        0
                        Envy gnaws at you. You probably got a wheelchair of the first release.
                      2. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 21: 17
                        -2
                        I don’t envy you (the owners of the Volga from ABC) at all, for the reason that you were given wheelchairs immediately after birth. And the "Volga" was given a little later.
                2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
                  Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 12 November 2022 23: 40
                  +1
                  Not Tinkov, but the huckster Tinkov. What material did Tinkov create, besides the virtual?
        2. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
          Sidor Bodrov 10 November 2022 10: 37
          +1
          And in return, they made multi-colored cardboard boxes in which you can’t piss without notifying the neighbors. Khrushchev were much better, although cramped. Our fat cats in power with their godfathers and offspring, the main thing is to rustle the dough acquired by overwork. Namely, to break, build and sell (to sell on a mortgage).
        3. Alik9 Offline Alik9
          Alik9 (Alik Putor) 14 November 2022 09: 45
          0
          You weren't in Moscow apparently...
      2. Max_Donetsk Offline Max_Donetsk
        Max_Donetsk (Maksym Kysunko) 9 November 2022 23: 24
        -13
        Commies did not live under dinosaurs. Therefore, oil and gas is not their heritage
        And this is all that does not end and on what the ear to hold on ..
        The legacy of the commies is Zhiguli and Khrushchev. For most lumpen, this is the legacy. An apartment as a legacy is the whole achievement of their worthless life.
        And the inheritance from the commies is not learning to work, but the ability to steal. Everything and everywhere. As everybody. Now they have come to war with it.
        1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 10 November 2022 09: 54
          +4
          It can be seen that you are completely lost in time, not the ability to work, but the ability to steal it came to us along with the liberals, all this is the tyrant Eltsin with his scumbags and brought in the 90s, just grabbing according to Chubais is worth something, so don’t do it now Blame everything from a sick head to a healthy one.
          1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
            Sidor Bodrov 10 November 2022 10: 50
            -1
            I completely agree. But to put "for" - it does not work.
        2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
          Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 12 November 2022 23: 45
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          Commies, commies .... Yes, the system was immune to forward movement. There were too many lies and control. However, they did a lot. And what did the current effective managers do. The people mostly live in Soviet apartments and not very well. They live well mainly in Moscow, but Moscow is not Russia.
        3. Corsair Offline Corsair
          Corsair (DNR) 13 November 2022 10: 11
          -1
          Quote: Max_Donetsk
          The legacy of the commies is Zhiguli and Khrushchev. For most lumpen, this is the legacy.

          You are not ours, not "Donetsk" No. , with us, if someone has any claims to the Soviet past, then they express them more modestly, more restrained ...
      3. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
        Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 10 November 2022 00: 33
        -13
        The Union inherited a better legacy than we did - a whole empire with all sorts of Poland-Finland, Middle Asia without any republics / the Caucasus, etc. Turkmenistan all the way to Iran. and Lenin and his friends - just the author of the "shameful peace" with Germany, in fact - the author of the collapse of the empire (and then in the Civil and after it was not possible to collect all of its pieces, and then endowing the national minorities with their own countries within the Union, i.e. .by planting a time bomb - isn't this the reason for the contradictions now with Ukraine, and then - very likely - with other former "republics" ..?). There were no republics in the empire, and in the passport there was a column not "nationality", but "religion", do not forget. Why then B. Yeltsin - the author of the collapse of the Union is worse than Lenin ..?
        So the main negative lesson from the "commies" is both in the pursuit of power and the unrealistic / populist "proletarian" idea (unrealistic - since its necessary condition is "an ideal, invented person" / Homo soveticus - without any individual ambitions, complete collectivization, rejection of money, "dictatorship of the proletariat", etc. theses - pearls) as quickly as possible space and human capital.
        And also - the inexplicable loyalty of the commies in relation to the Westerners / Bandera. Why didn't they add the bastard. Now it is this legacy that we are disentangling.
        1. Down Offline Down
          Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 11: 49
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          Quote: Vladimir Orlov
          The Union inherited a better legacy than we did - a whole empire with all sorts of Poland-Finland, Middle Asia without any republics / the Caucasus, etc. Turkmenistan all the way to Iran. and Lenin and his friends - just the author of the "shameful peace" with Germany, in fact - the author of the collapse of the empire (and then in the Civil and after it was not possible to collect all of its pieces, and then endowing the national minorities with their own countries within the Union, i.e. .by planting a time bomb - isn't this the reason for the contradictions now with Ukraine, and then - very likely - with other former "republics" ..?)

          The complete ignorance of the history of the native country is always surprising. Lenin did his best. Then Russia was 90% a peasant country, there was little industry, and it fought with the whole Western and not only the world. What was better, to die or take a break in the form of the "Brest-Litovsk Treaty"? Made Ukraine, planted a bomb? Have you read bourgeois articles? There was a Far Eastern Republic, so what? It was covered up when the problem with the interventionists in the East was solved, what prevented, after Lenin's death, to cover up the Ukraine project? The mind of the followers was not enough, but Lenin is also to blame for this? Lenin often took unpopular measures, this was the introduction of the policy of "War Communism", food requisitions, realizing that this would cause a protest of the peasants, riots began, the policy immediately changed to the "NEP", the Bolsheviks became dissatisfied, such as a rollback to the past, for which fought? But the result was positive, they won the civil war, but they fought with someone again. And they fought with the "Russians", the elite, the white bone, and who helped them? Our sworn enemies are the Anglo-Saxons, you can’t find analogies with modern Ukraine. But the population of the then Little Russia as a whole supported the Bolsheviks, but now we do not observe this. Why? And that Russia is an example to follow, with its 12000 rubles. min wages, and Westerners give more. There used to be an ideology, the bourgeoisie were enemies, but now, what can you say to the Polish mercenaries that the Russian huckster-oligarchs are better than theirs, and even having beggarly salaries, is not convincing.
          1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
            Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 11 November 2022 01: 49
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            And don't be surprised. Your destiny is just etwas ("a little bit" - German) from the level of education in the USSR (and it was not bad, that's a fact). Googled at least something about the "shameful world".
            I just studied in the USSR, lived and remember what and how it was.
    2. Down Offline Down
      Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 10: 56
      +1
      Unlike modern "figures", Lenin, not only theoretically substantiated, but also achieved, (albeit by any) means. And if you compare with whom you had to fight then and under what conditions, then it’s even stupid to compare with modern ones. And why is his GOERLO plan bad, probably, what did not the bourgeois do it?
    3. Dima_2 Offline Dima_2
      Dima_2 (Dmitry Makarov) 10 November 2022 11: 48
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      And what does Ulyanov-Lenin have to do with it? Can you remind where he was during the February-bourgeois revolution. Or do you consider a temporary misunderstanding (the government) to be what would lead us to a bright capitalist future????
  3. Max_Donetsk Offline Max_Donetsk
    Max_Donetsk (Maksym Kysunko) 9 November 2022 23: 30
    -3
    What alternative to capitalism would you recommend?
    Juche?
    1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 10 November 2022 01: 16
      -2
      if we take the picture from that avatar as a basis - there is a Mohawk or a Huron, then it’s not Juche, but the “Sitting Bull economy”, i.e. hunting and gathering with the transition to subsistence farming (sedentary agriculture) ...
      1. Ugr Offline Ugr
        Ugr 10 November 2022 07: 37
        +10
        I don’t care what system is in the country, if I don’t feel comfortable living under the bourgeoisie, I’ll be against it, I lived better under the Soviets, there was stability, work and they didn’t steal at the top, but the fact that there was less food, so they were all without chemistry and price, everything was fine and people were kinder and more sympathetic, and now everyone strives to deceive their neighbor in order to cut down the dough, and everywhere from the market to car repairs and utilities, our bourgeoisie is a road to nowhere, someday you will understand this
        1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
          Sidor Bodrov 10 November 2022 11: 11
          0
          Of course, communism is, although an unattainable sword, but a landmark. But socialism is real. And China is its embodiment, worthy of imitation.
          1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 11: 29
            -1
            Only you have never been in that China, you won’t be, and you only know about the Chinese what they will write to you here.
            1. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
              Sidor Bodrov 10 November 2022 11: 52
              +1
              They don't write anything about China to me here. But everyone knows that this is a people's state and the first economy in the world, with modern industry, an army, and infrastructure. What is only one railway route Beijing - Shanghai. In China, the progressive personal income tax scale:
              Up to 1500 yuan (15 thousand rubles) per month - 3%
              From 1500 to 4500 (up to 45 thousand rubles) per month - 10%
              From 4500 to 9000 (up to 90 thousand rubles) per month - 20%
              From 9000 to 35000 (up to 350 thousand) per month - 25%
              From 35000 to 55000 (up to 550 thousand) - 30%
              From 55000 to 80000 (up to 800 thousand) - 35%
              More than 80000 (more than 800 thousand rubles per month) - 45%
              - There is something to support the national economy.
              1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 16: 23
                -4
                But everyone knowsthat it is a people's state and the world's first economy, with modern industry, army, infrastructure.

                There is no need to sign for everyone here - speak only about yourself.
                Personally, I'm not very sure about this.
    2. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 10 November 2022 07: 04
      +1
      It's not about capitalism or socialism, but about a system that allows you to respond flexibly to the challenges of the situation. If socialism becomes profitable, then such a system applies it. If capitalism, then it is easy to pass to it. And here, if you think about why all previous systems defend their economic principles to death, regardless of the interests of the country, it becomes clear that the interests of the elite group are the reason for everything. It is they who are pushing for suicidal decisions, be it tsarism, socialism, capitalism or Putinism. Any elite in any country sees the primary task in maintaining its power, which allows it to plunder the country. In the presence of an elite, decisions are made by some, and others pay for mistakes in making them.
      But now, in connection with the advent of the information age, it is possible to govern the country without the participation of the elite. Such a system is called direct democracy or democracy. Under it, the people themselves make decisions, bear all the burdens for possible mistakes, and correct them themselves by direct electronic voting.
    3. Down Offline Down
      Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 11: 52
      -2
      Make an effort on yourself, read the correspondence of two world-famous people: Kurchatov and Einstein, where this topic was discussed in detail, although great physicists will most likely not be authoritative for you.
  4. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 November 2022 09: 42
    +3
    If it were only the army ... So we have the same crap everywhere! Here the order needs to be changed. For under capitalism, the main goal of which is solely to acquire dough, and at any cost, it is unprincipled to butt heads with the West ..

    I subscribe to every word.
    However, the reason is not in capitalism, and the initial loss.
    Probably, Putin was chosen by the Anglo-Saxons themselves even under Yeltsin - their puppet, perhaps even then the former scout was recruited by them. They would be idiotami if they did not use all the available opportunities to the end. It is also likely that he was not initiated into the plan - his task is to stupidly carry out commands, but to play his role with talent. What he has been doing all these years.
    However, how can Putin just take and hand over the country to the enemy? People will rebel. For this reason, the Anglo-Saxons organized the reform of the army with his hands, and he chose the appropriate performer, set him a task and monitored the implementation. This has happened in other areas as well.
    Now the country can be brought to surrender as a result of "justified", regular, retreats. The Anglo-Saxons have well studied us and the limits of our notorious tolerance.
    Television, which has been in the hands of the "fifth column" since the Yeltsin era, acts on us like a paralyzing poison. These techniques have also been studied and worked out by them earlier.
    The "moment of truth" has come, the Anglo-Saxons are preparing to take back what they have cooked and the results of Putin's actions expose him
    1. Ilya 22 Offline Ilya 22
      Ilya 22 (Ilya) 10 November 2022 23: 04
      +1
      I have the same thoughts too. It seems that the NWO is in the interests of the United States. Of this whole situation, only he benefits, and with him Britain. For the United States, it was important that the conflict drag on, so that, as they say, "the client is ripe." And so we ourselves made it so that it dragged on. As a result, all business from Europe moves to the USA. For us, on the contrary, prolonging the conflict is like death. War is also a war of economies. We had a chance, due to the effect of surprise, to quickly achieve our results and present everyone with a fait accompli. After all, we are 1% of world GDP or so, and all 50% are against us, if not more. Resources are not comparable. Looks like it started like I thought. However, probably the true goals of the NWO were not those that were announced. We ourselves have done everything to prolong the conflict. At first they liberated the territories, then they themselves left them. The bombing of infrastructure began seriously only six months later. And all these "we have not started seriously yet ...". In general, war is serious, it cannot be waged frivolously. If you are not serious, then you get what we have now. I have a version that the Anglo-Saxons are no longer satisfied with the process of slow, controlled fading of Russia and it was necessary to speed it up. Here, under the pretext of annexing Crimea, they imposed economic sanctions, which increased every year and, in the end, dragged Russia into a military conflict, for which he was objectively not ready. Rather, he did everything for this. All hope is now on the people. But Russians need a leader. Only with a real leader of the nation, according to the modern one, can one call a true leader of the nation, caring for the interests of the people and the state, the Russian people turn from a herd state into a flock capable of sweeping away everything in its path, overcoming all difficulties and winning. Yes, during the war, sometimes you have to retreat and leave the city. This can be accepted when you are confident and know that there are resources to win. Now this feeling is gone. It is not clear at the expense of what resources our military-political leadership is going to turn the tide of the military campaign now.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 November 2022 01: 00
        0
        It is not clear at the expense of what resources our military-political leadership is going to turn the tide of the military campaign now.

        Not going to. I think - Putin has created a system in which everyone looks into his mouth. Probably, at first they didn’t even understand why he needed all this (like himself). Gradually they guess, but they don’t see a way out for themselves - firstly, a lot of money is at stake (them, and not only), and secondly, the burden of accumulated guilt for complicity in betrayal is already crushing
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        2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 November 2022 11: 55
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          I mean, of course, the entire leadership, and not just the military, because the system is general. Just look at their faces at meetings. The face is a mirror of the soul, an imprint of conscience, and sometimes its absence
  • sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 9 November 2022 17: 11
    +9
    Appointing all these crooks - liberals and then for a long time to support all their completely absurd and thoughtless decisions that led our army and navy to the maximum weakening - this is a crime against the state, who did it and supported it and there are criminals whose deeds we all are now and we are observing, we have saved up, we have optimized, now the whole country will have to disentangle the obviously criminal actions of the bastards who ruined our army, navy and military-industrial complex, it is interesting that all those characters who directly carried out all these so-called "reforms" in the army and led to a very negative consequences for her, so far they have not suffered any punishment for this.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 17: 30
      +1
      Appoint to positions all these crooks from liberda and then for a long time to support all their absolutely utopian and thoughtless decisions,

      I remember Shoigu's face and think: this "liberda" is liberda for all liberda lol
      1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) 10 November 2022 10: 22
        +2
        You would better remember what was happening in the Moscow Region before Shoigu, it just doesn’t fit in your head how all this random and absolutely incompetent in military affairs liberal mra-zo-ta could freely and with impunity do this for many years, echoes of these so-called "reforms" armies and navies will be given up for a long time to come, we have an idiotic feature - "chopping from the shoulder", which should never be done, our military science and the organizational structure of our army were among the most thoughtful and most developed in the world, why was it all to destroy and then hastily copying the Western structure (division / brigade), this is an extremely short-sighted and rash step that did not strengthen, but only weakened the combat capability of our army, but the closure of military universities, and the reduction of the officer staff with combat experience, and the complete cessation of the recruitment of cadets in the military universities remaining after the liberal "reforms" for several years in a row, what else is it if not a crime and undermining the national al security of our country??? And all these creatures live with impunity and clover and still occupy leadership positions instead of being in prison for their so-called "services to the Fatherland."
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 November 2022 21: 52
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          And all these creatures live with impunity and clover and still occupy leadership positions instead of being in prison for their so-called "services to the Fatherland."

          I agree with you. Serdyukov was chosen, set a task for him and Putin supervised its implementation. As befits a leader, he did everything with his hands. In the financial sector - by the hands of Nabiulina, etc., etc. If he is put in jail along with accomplices, it will really be possible to change a lot in Russia. The subsequent restoration of the power of the people in the country will help it to be completely cleansed and recover.
        2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 November 2022 23: 29
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          Taking back control of our nuclear weapons will allow us to keep the Anglo-Saxons at bay with the threat of mutual annihilation while we clean up our mess.
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    3. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
      Sidor Bodrov 11 November 2022 10: 36
      0
      We need to rely less on Putin, and voters should live more of their own mind. And I think that many who have gone astray will now see clearly. Not the tail (Putin) wags the dog. And this dog is "United Russia" and their hangers-on in power and in business. They don’t care about the country, and for the sake of dough they will sell their mother.
  • borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 9 November 2022 17: 15
    +4
    Well, what can I say, that's right. Unfortunately, today's MO is indeed no exception. Townships and hospitals, perhaps, he is much more likely to build, but if Serdyukov was field furniture, then this faithful ShSK is a firefighter ((
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 17: 31
      -6
      Not a firefighter, but a fireman.
      1. borisvt Offline borisvt
        borisvt (boris) 9 November 2022 18: 20
        +1
        the military call it that, I heard it myself sad
        1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 20: 38
          -8
          Your military native language do not know. As are you, however.
          1. borisvt Offline borisvt
            borisvt (boris) 9 November 2022 22: 40
            +1
            they are just as mine as yours. There is nothing to blame on the mirror, if the face is crooked))
            1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 23: 20
              -6
              There is nothing to blame on the mirror, if the face is crooked))

              I really like your self-criticism.
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              2. borisvt Offline borisvt
                borisvt (boris) 10 November 2022 22: 11
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                listen, you are absolutely right as far as OKPDTR is concerned - not for you, but for people like me, uneducated - this is the All-Russian classifier of professions for workers, positions of employees and wage categories.
                But as for the nickname - you didn’t give it, it’s not for you to modify))
                1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 12 November 2022 19: 02
                  -2
                  Weak, very weak. Practice, perhaps then you will burn nipadecki right away. laughing
    2. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 9 November 2022 20: 40
      +7
      No, there was also window dressing in the Ministry of Emergency Situations. Previously, I did not believe in "gossip", but now, as we see, T-62s are going to the "NOR" zone and uniforms are being purchased by the whole world. The Ministry of Emergency Situations still has the same system - everything is bought with bribes.
      Yes, and in the traffic police the same system.
      Rospotrebnadzor....
      In short, feudalism - everyone was given a clearing with which to feed and not forget to share with the "state" and everything will be OK (examples: Sechin, Abramovich, anti-examples: Ulyukaev, Khodorkovsky ...)
      1. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
        syndicalist (Dimon) 10 November 2022 07: 25
        +3
        It is feudalism. Therefore, the attacks of supporters of the USSR and capitalism look very funny. Funny because they argue about something that doesn't exist. The current system is some kind of diabolical conglomeration of liberalism and Stalinism with a predominance of feudal relations.
        1. Down Offline Down
          Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 11: 54
          -1
          You want to say that serfdom is now present, you can ask where and in what form? Or do you not understand the word feudalism?
    3. Vdars Offline Vdars
      Vdars (Victor) 10 November 2022 09: 09
      0
      My friend, you should read Gilyarovsky!
  • Dingo Offline Dingo
    Dingo (Victor) 9 November 2022 17: 20
    +6
    and General of the Army P.S. Grachev

    As for the others you listed, I won't say anything - I don't know.
    But as for the Pasha-Mercedes, which promised to take Grozny with "two platoons of paratroopers" - I personally have a different opinion. Like the opinion of my nephew, the current OMON colonel, a member of both "Chechen" as an over-conscript (contractor - as they say now).
    And how the officers hated these "caps" with a high crown, calling them simply "rooks".
    All this "banana-Papuan" tinsel that "Pasha" introduced ...
    Of course, Ivashov does not know all the subtleties, but still ...
  • trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 17: 22
    -6
    Why, then, for the modern Russian army, the heiress of the famous Soviet,

    Sorry, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine can call themselves the heirs of the "glorious Soviet" to about the same extent.

    Fu, what a bad villain Serdyukov was! True, after his removal from the post of minister, about 10 years have passed, but still "Serdyukov is to blame for everything."
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 9 November 2022 18: 24
      +5
      E. Serdyukov served only as an urgent sergeant, he was put in a high position for his talent to ruin and put him in a high position. It was under President A. Medvedev (by birth Aaron Davidovich Mendel) that A. Chubais was the ideological destroyer. The defeat of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was carried out mainly for the destruction of the officer corps, as the last force that could interfere with the comprador rule of the Russian Federation by the liberals of the Gaidar ambassador. They defeated the former post-Soviet Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and did not create anything adequate, only looting and collapse (the Case of Vasilyeva, Serdyukov's assistants, etc.). The successors of the RF Ministry of Defense are also more marked by PR and corruption. From the second army of the world, in fact, after Serdyukovism, we have an army of second-rate countries, because we even buy new weapons from Iran, North Korea ...
      1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 9 November 2022 20: 42
        -2
        after Serdyukovshchina

        After Serdyukovism, ALE! , already about 10 years have passed!
        1. Baba Yaga Offline Baba Yaga
          Baba Yaga (Baba Yaga) 10 November 2022 10: 18
          +2
          Totally agree!
          What was Shoigu doing all this time!?
          It’s easy to blame everything on the predecessor, but then what did he do for two whole five-year plans, huh!??
          After the Second World War, in two five-year plans, the country was raised from the ruins, so the conditions were a billion times worse, but people worked and in 1957 the first satellite in the world was launched into space !!!
          And now there is only one Konashenkovshchina around
        2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 10 November 2022 10: 55
          +1
          Quote: Trampoline area instructor
          After Serdyukovism, ALE! It's been about 10 years already!

          Breaking is not building, with a fool you can easily and quickly break everything that has been built, debugged and improved for many decades, after what liberda has done with our army, many years of work and huge financial injections into all areas of the military economy destroyed by the liberals are needed, specialists are they understand well, and such amateurs - bawlers like you apparently have not the slightest idea about this.
          1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 11: 34
            -3
            and such amateurs - bawlers like you apparently have not the slightest idea about this.

            For example, you don’t know how to write correctly in your native language, but you still undertake to judge someone here negative
            1. Fourth Offline Fourth
              Fourth (Fourth) 11 November 2022 23: 14
              -1
              While you were learning to write and speak correctly, your interlocutor may have learned to build. I respect such people.
              1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 12 November 2022 19: 07
                -2
                You do not know how to write correctly, or build, but only respect.
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          2. zenion Offline zenion
            zenion (zinovy) 10 November 2022 16: 35
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            sgrabik (Sergey). It was not a fool to break, so it was intended. Stalin warned about this. Stalin urged the people to learn to govern the country. Stalin said that since it was not possible to break the USSR with a war, they would break the country on the sly. What happened to the USSR when it was broken was a warning about what could happen to the country, Lenin said that the current winners want to become new masters instead of the departed masters. Stalin did not allow this to be done, but they did achieve it after his death. It is a pity that the people did not listen and now the Lord is over them again.
        3. Ilya 22 Offline Ilya 22
          Ilya 22 (Ilya) 10 November 2022 23: 21
          0
          Well, it’s so customary in our political party to blame everything on the predecessor, although he himself has been in office for a dozen years. Here Putin blames everything on the 90s and on Lenin and Stalin, although he himself still uses what was created under them. Yes, and at the helm for over 20 years. It's time to show some kind of result so that descendants remember.
    2. Vdars Offline Vdars
      Vdars (Victor) 10 November 2022 09: 19
      0
      So you, the instructor of the trampoline zone, and people like you still remember the communist with an unkind word!
      1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 11: 35
        -2
        There was a "multicolored" time, as it is now, however.
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 9 November 2022 17: 26
    +6
    We are now seeing the results of such destructive “reforms” with our own eyes on the Ukrainian fronts.

    Recently, a film was shown on TV - "The Best in Hell". This is not a reform, this is the genocide of a nation. The bottom line. Intelligence could neither detect nor determine the coordinates of the target. And in order to better detect it and direct aircraft at it, it is necessary to capture four buildings in the industrial zone. The assault began. And I immediately had a question along the way. If SU attack aircraft are capable of destroying a gun, can't they smash three buildings in the industrial zone to rubbish? And only then do the cleansing. They started the assault and it turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have an advantage everywhere: people, tanks, artillery, UAVs. Result. The order was carried out, but almost all died. And the Marines' recent appeal to the governor? And you know what's the worst. The fact that this problem can only be solved from the "top". An ordinary cannot give an order to aviation to smash buildings into the trash or clear heights.
    And in order to solve the problem, understanding that mediocrity rules is already not enough! But Putin will not leave voluntarily and such elections never lose!
    1. Vdars Offline Vdars
      Vdars (Victor) 10 November 2022 09: 26
      -1
      So the task was to seize the languages. And after the Su-25 strike, in a building smashed into the trash, how to do it ?!
      1. Corsair Offline Corsair
        Corsair (DNR) 13 November 2022 06: 41
        -1
        Quote from VDArs
        So the task was to seize the languages.

        What is this movie? "Best in Hell-2" belay ?
    2. isofat Online isofat
      isofat (isofat) 10 November 2022 10: 00
      -4
      Steel-maker, you again for the old, our president interferes with you? Go to the polls, everything else is incitement. Did you get it? wink

      Today, November 10, is the Day of the employee of the internal affairs bodies. Thank you guys for your work. And happy holidays. yes
    3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 10 November 2022 11: 04
      -2
      There is no need to blame everything on Putin, it is too simple and primitive to blame the President of Russia for everything, the problem is actually much broader and deeper, and the way to solve it is much more complicated than you imagine.
  • Nike Offline Nike
    Nike (Nikolai) 9 November 2022 17: 37
    +9
    Alas, to be honest, it's nice to read such critical, truthful articles on the "Reporter". For this, I was banned on the "Politnavigator" for half a year. The truth hurts my eyes. Thanks to the "Reporter" for truthful articles, sometimes it happens that I disagree with something, but here there is a tolerant attitude towards other opinions
  • Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) 9 November 2022 17: 44
    +9
    There was a social build and now build Druganov. He is everywhere. The Supreme spoke all the time... And with whom then to work??? As if no one lives in the country at all.
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 10 November 2022 11: 27
      +1
      And in the ranks of the Druganovs there are only hucksters.
  • Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
    Sydor Kovpak 9 November 2022 18: 21
    -1
    And I thought Ukraine was over, now Russia is at war with the rest. Although the problems described are still not hidden
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 9 November 2022 18: 42
    +6
    A little earlier, all these reductions, optimization, Serdyukov's relocations were hailed as great achievements.

    Himself is inviolable, the girls are inviolable, the family and clan are rich, with connections, they sit in key positions and shine in the get-togethers of the elite.

    Life is good. And who will name names and amounts .... one such N is already sitting, miraculously surviving ...
  • Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 9 November 2022 20: 32
    +8
    "Problems" are the same: general theft and window dressing. All other talk about "problems" is a screen for "extinguishing" the real problem.
    Frankly, I didn’t believe that the Ministry of Emergency Situations under Shoigu used their own (well, that is, part of the “common fund” from bribes) to buy equipment and equipment for fire departments. But "everything has become clear now" when T-62s went to the front, apparently, just from "80% of the new weapons."
  • zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 9 November 2022 23: 06
    0
    This unfortunate Serdyukov was given to you. He has been at Rostec for 9 years already (now he seems to be chairing the UAC Board of Directors).
    A person was offered a representative position with a good salary and outlined a range of tasks.
    He took the position (and who refused such a tasty morsel). He solved the tasks to the best of his competence.
    Well, if the tasks were not the same - so what does he have to do with it ?!
    He did not put himself in the position and drew a circle of tasks for himself ....
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 10 November 2022 09: 18
      +2
      He has been at Rostec for 9 years already (now he seems to be chairing the UAC Board of Directors).

      No longer presides. He dumped them together with his convict artist - they were both recently seen at Sheremetyevo, there was a photo.
      Apparently, he decided that Chemezov's pontorez and his sharashka office had too much holey "roof" ... so he decided to move closer to his owners.
  • Vadim Sharygin Offline Vadim Sharygin
    Vadim Sharygin (Citizen) 9 November 2022 23: 12
    +6
    The prognosis is simple: in the spring, general mobilization will begin in an emergency mode, since the current 300 will only plug the holes, and partly compensate for the losses. Apparently, there will no longer be any fundamental Russian successes. Local successes, the storming of several huts, dugouts, villages .. and in the meantime, the States will open several more fronts against Russia. Already by the summer the situation will escalate to the limit. It would be better if our submarines were more at sea ...
  • Andrey Vylev Offline Andrey Vylev
    Andrey Vylev (Andrey Vylev) 9 November 2022 23: 13
    +4
    My comment will probably be deleted, but if you do not tell the truth there is no point in wasting valuable time in long explanations
    The NVO has shown the real face of the parasitic oligarchic system in Russia, from which the problems in the Russian army stem.
    Accordingly, the main culprit about the actual state of affairs is not Putin's government, but the Russian people who tolerate it!!!
  • voznesensky Offline voznesensky
    voznesensky (Oleg Petrovich) 9 November 2022 23: 13
    +7
    The author of the article carefully / prudently avoids a direct answer to the question he himself posed: "who is to blame?" It is possible and even necessary to understand him - he has already said a lot. But for me, because of my advanced age, nothing prevents me from saying directly: the trouble is that our Supreme "does not abandon his own." Basically, it's not bad. But for some reason it turns out that his "friends" are not our "friends" with you!
    1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
      tkot973 (Konstantin) 10 November 2022 00: 56
      +4
      Considering your advanced age, if I were you, I would speak more radically, and this is not a hit-and-run and not a reason for a fight. Just calling a spade a spade, the burden of the unspoken leaves, it becomes a little easier.
      I, too, am now relieved a little. In my opinion, the problem is not that the Supreme Commander does not abandon his own people, but that the Supreme Commander does not control the situation in principle and is its hostage, or he is Yeltsin Gorbachev No. 2, or simply a traitor. That's all.
      1. voznesensky Offline voznesensky
        voznesensky (Oleg Petrovich) 10 November 2022 19: 10
        -1
        I would be more radical if I were you.

        I speak to the best of clear and absolute confidence in the correctness of my words. No more. Because, despite my constant and meticulous analysis of the words and deeds of the Supreme during the part of his career that I can see (after Peter), I still have not been able to confidently formulate the answer to the question "Who is mister Putin?" Although, of course, I have options for answering this question, I do not consider myself entitled to speak in a decisive manner about something that I myself doubt or am not too sure of. However, I can confidently say: Putin is not a traitor. And someone who says this, like you, does not deserve my trust.
        1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
          tkot973 (Konstantin) 11 November 2022 22: 49
          -1
          If you "still have not been able to confidently formulate the answer to the question "Who is mister Putin?" at such an advanced age, then you will never formulate it. You will not formulate it after the efforts of the new government after Yeltsin and Gorbaty continued to finish off Russia - education, industry, civil aviation and navy, military-industrial complex... After they invested their own money stolen from the people in Western bonds in the expectation of an extra profit and crap with them. CBO, if you need to chew why adventurous, tell me, and I will gladly state my point of view separately. You can continue the sins of the new government almost endlessly. There is, of course, as they say, a buyback, but it is so meager and ambiguous against the background of minuses that the thought involuntarily arises about him as a PR campaign so that the people look at the president as a person leading Russia forward, Russia as an independent and great state.
          ps
          You know, of course, I am less than you, but I was born and raised in the USSR like you, and I know how to respect and listen to those who are older and wiser than me, or more experienced. But if the one who is older, and at the same time does not see beyond his own nose, or cannot decide who Mr. Putin is in 22 years, then this is more likely not my problem, but yours. I have nothing against you, perhaps you lived your life with dignity and met your old age, God bless you, but in my opinion, you express categoricalness in the wrong place.
          1. Fourth Offline Fourth
            Fourth (Fourth) 11 November 2022 23: 02
            0
            I read your comment with interest. I will not be categorical, you do not like it. I have nothing against you either, perhaps you are even a smart person.
    2. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 10 November 2022 09: 32
      +4
      that his "friends" are not our "friends" with you!

      Completely agree with you. Apparently, the understanding of what is happening farce comes with age - there is something to compare. And I'm in my 60s too...
      1. voznesensky Offline voznesensky
        voznesensky (Oleg Petrovich) 10 November 2022 18: 47
        0
        Well no! It's not that "understanding comes with age" (by the way, I'm well over 80). And the fact that at my age I can say everything I think without fear for my career or for my life - the first has already ended, the second is worthless.
  • rotkiv04 Online rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 9 November 2022 23: 14
    +8
    I agree with the author, but the question arises, who initiated these reforms and optimizations, it’s even scary to think who this person is, it turns out that he ruined everything
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 10 November 2022 10: 15
      +5
      and who initiated these reforms and optimizations

      Good question. Remember this - Verka Skvortsova (calling herself Veronika), the former Minister of Health? Arranged with her accomplice Tanka Golikova "optimization" of medicine? Turning health care into "health care"?


      ...On the day of the announcement of the decision to withdraw Russian troops to the left bank of the Dnieper near Kherson, Vladimir Putin's official work schedule was emphatically routine, routine and planned. The President of the Russian Federation visited the Federal Center for Brain and Neurotechnologies, met with the head of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency Veronika Skvortsova...

      We definitely don’t leave “ours” ...

      https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/11/09/vse-idet-po-planu-putina-khitryy-smysl-khersonskogo-manevra-surovikina.html
  • Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 9 November 2022 23: 17
    -4
    it’s clear that everything needs to be blamed on Serdyukov and Sergei Shoigu .... and by the way, let’s remember the first Chechen war when Grachev was a professional, and now Shoigu is a manager, but professionals are fighting and they were prepared before Serdkov’s reforms ... in general, no logic or meaning in the article, but just a retelling of kitchen conversations and kitchen "logic" blaming everything on individuals, especially since all this SVO resembles a failed turmoil and Russian-Japanese, failed 1941, failed Afghanistan ..... the problem is not Shoigu and not the departed Serdyukov 10 years ago... the problem is with the people! people are thievish and many steal, and even more so who have seized upon the opportunity to steal a lot ... there are people who are cowardly, 700 thousand cowards fled, there were exodus of contract soldiers, .... there are heroes, of course, they fight, but our bureaucracy is up to the generals does not allow posts .... the army is a reflection of society ..... but society is sick and everyone knows about it, but where are the conclusions? why do our men drink vodka? Is it okay to drink vodka?? why 3 million Russian babies are killed a year by Russian women at the instigation of their men, by abortion? why stupidity and madness has gripped our society, helloins, all sorts of perverts, mass admiration for the West, smoking mixtures? why? why the traffic police extort bribes on the roads, brazenly and publicly, and the corrupt courts "see no reason not to trust the inspector", a crazy dying society, our people became crazy, not far removed in morality from the Nazis in Ukraine and from the rotten West, so will God grant such a victory? .... because they left the faith of the fathers, betrayed Christ for the sake of silversmiths, for the sake of pleasures ........ the exit today is indicated by a decree of the president, a revival of morality is necessary! and only then will God give us victory...
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 10 November 2022 00: 14
      -3
      Do not divert the essence with stupid imitations of Judaism of Jewish rabbis. This Lord is a Jew - a sectarian from Jewish beliefs, handed over to the goyim by Jewish preachers. The main distributor Paul, - the rabbi of the synagogue, and the rest of the sect of Jews, then the bish of the apostles. I was in the Roman catacombs of the first Christians - there is only a Jew. Then the goyim went on about the cunning rabbis and pray to the sect of the Jews. All your statements are in the Koran, and in the writings of any religion, which are innumerable during the existence of man - Homo sapiens.
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 November 2022 09: 09
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        Indeed, the morality of Christian Muslims and Jews is common and formulated by Moses, and in a miraculous way it was also preached by Confucius and a number of other teachers, this is the morality that serves as the basis for the well-being of peoples, this is God's law preached by Moses Jesus Christ Muhammad Confucius Apostle Paul, Sergius of Radonezh and others. .... you are mistaken about other religions, there were religions that preached the eating of one’s neighbor, bestiality, sodomy, sexual orgies, drugs and other outpouring of saliva and hatred against God, all those peoples died out and how everyone who deviated from God’s law will die out now, .. rejoice that your mother preserved Orthodox roots and didn’t cook soup out of you, or didn’t give you to a surgeon to chop you up with tongs right in the womb ..... you saw the branch on which you sit when you attack Orthodox morality, and accuse Pavel of being a Jew in the kitchen, to spite your grandmother, frostbite your ears, get drunk on vodka, and lying in a ditch will freeze This winter, with cries of "the Apostle Paul was a Jew, therefore I will reject all the faith of the fathers and get drunk like a pig to harm Him" ​​.... how do you like this idea? Cool, yeah ? on the other hand, the Apostle Paul will not be able to rejoice at your pious and long life, and your many grandchildren and the love that the Jew Jesus Christ preached, Whom our ancestors listened to and from Whom the phenomenon of the Russian soul came from
    2. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 10 November 2022 10: 28
      +4
      and by the way, remember the first Chechen one when the professional Grachev was

      Is Pasha a professional? Then I am the Pope...
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 November 2022 11: 40
        -1
        it was sarcasm, but formally grachev had a military education, he graduated from the academy and had a high military rank, so this is not an argument about a professional, there are professionals who are not able to think, and even Judas are and were among the military .... morality honesty is needed , responsibility patriotism courage and courage ... and not just the professionalism of which no one has canceled
    3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 10 November 2022 11: 59
      0
      First we need to win, and then to revive morality, we have neither time nor other options but to bring the matter to a victorious end, otherwise we will no longer need any revival of morality, if we lose, then there will be nothing to revive then.
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 November 2022 12: 02
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        Quote: sgrabik
        First you have to win

        I agree, first we need to win, but we must not forget about laying the foundation for future victories
  • Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 10 November 2022 00: 05
    +3
    During the 8 years of the war in the Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have erected echeloned fortifications in this region that the Russian army has not been able to take for almost 9 months, and the success of the first months in other areas is associated with the sudden start of the NMD and the lack of prepared defense lines. Having exhausted the army of the Russian Federation in battles at the front, stretching from Kyiv, Kharkov and Donetsk, more than 1000 km long. the initiative passed to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which forced the Russian Federation to leave many occupied territories, go on the defensive and announce partial mobilization to make up for losses and seal the front line.
    The main problem of the SVO is connected with the thesis about millions of Ukrainians who hate the existing regime and are determined to keep intact the transport communications that are necessary for export to the EU and which are used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to maneuver forces and means
  • Event Observer Offline Event Observer
    Event Observer (Oleg T) 10 November 2022 03: 11
    +1
    Asked for war, I apologize for the expression. Now we must leave. It hurts, but it's necessary.
  • sat2004 Offline sat2004
    sat2004 10 November 2022 08: 20
    +5
    Who started the "reforms" in the army, the President of the Russian Federation - D. A. Medvedev, and who was at the head of the government, Putin V. V. continue to list ...
  • trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 10 November 2022 08: 33
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    “When Surovikin was appointed to this position, he was well aware of what would happen in October-November,” Prigozhin said, stressing that Surovokin also knows what will happen in the future.

    “It is important not to agonize, not to fight in paranoia, but to draw conclusions and work on mistakes,” Prigozhin added, explaining that Surovikin actually saved the soldiers who were surrounded in the territory that turned out to be cut off from supply routes.
  • Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 November 2022 10: 13
    0
    Thanks to the Author. Well done Sergei!
  • Down Offline Down
    Down (Etwas) 10 November 2022 11: 03
    +1
    Quote: Max_Donetsk
    Now they have come to war with it.

    And what did your "new" government do for 30 years? The GOERLO plan in a backward country was done faster, who interfered with you or what? Stuffing personal pockets?
  • Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 November 2022 12: 12
    0
    when I approved and supported the principles of the military concept of the Russian Federation, a compact army designed for one local conflict, and the accelerated development of nuclear weapons .... I did not imagine that the big war of the West with us would be disguised as a local war with the ukrofascists, the army of the ukofascists was completely defeated back in August, but .... the West pulled itself up to help them, the mistake was initially the failure to capture the Polish border from Lutsk to Vinnytsia, and from Kherson to Odessa ..... the fact that Western leaders would help the Nazis was obvious to me initially, .... What to do? I wrote repeatedly now it is necessary to seize these lands, otherwise the war will not end or there will even be a defeat, based on the concept of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to use locally tactical nuclear weapons, for example, in Lviv, which will discourage the West from wanting to get involved when they see our determination and deal a severe blow to the Ukrainian fascist mood, another way is to increase the grouping by several times.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 12 November 2022 03: 20
      -1
      when I approved and supported the principles of the military concept of the Russian Federation, a compact army designed for one local conflict, and the accelerated development of nuclear weapons

      This is where your mistake was. However, this is excusable for you - a non-specialist.
      For the president of Russia, surrounded by experts chosen by him, along with other, similar strategic miscalculations, for all 22 years, with personal control of their results, this can no longer be a mistake. This is a malicious act, i.e. betrayal
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 10: 21
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        I, as a person close to the Kremlin at a certain time, want to explain to you that the president is not a tsar, and even the tsars could not decide everything on their own, they are all in conditions and circumstances that are stronger than the tsar, for example, the failure of the rear of the NMD and the abandonment of Kherson is an example of this, the president’s ability to control the situation is limited by his influence on close people, and these are experienced apparatchiks, rogues, careerists, intriguers and liars, for example, according to Bulgakov, everything in the rear was excellent and he even became an army general for his zeal, turned out to be a deceiver ...... the president is not he can always personally go to each warehouse and see everything there .... it is the hope for specialists that often ruins the case, so you are very mistaken, relying on them, all traitors and cowards like Rozhdestvensky, who intentionally destroyed an entire fleet in Tsushima or Apraksin, who betrayed an entire army , were specialists of the highest level, ... I don’t know what circumstances force the president to act one way or another, therefore I don’t judge, ... for example, eats Is it the fault of Stalin, the sole and wise ruler, in the failure of 1941? could he have imagined that, despite the strongest propaganda, soldiers and generals would run en masse and have to create barrier detachments? ..... even a wise leader is just a person and cannot grasp the immensity, especially in the field of higher management, where in words everything is always beautiful around the greedy and a predatory cunning crowd .....
        "All around is treason, cowardice and deceit" - a famous phrase of the last Russian Emperor Nicholas II, recorded by him in his diary on March 2, 1917, on the day of abdication

        Why did he give the detractors an insignificant hand,
        Why did he believe the words and caresses to be false,
        He, from a young age, comprehended people? ..

        And having removed the previous wreath - they are a crown of thorns,
        Shrouded in laurels, put on him:
        But the needles are secretly severely
        A glorious brow was wicked;
        .....

        And you, arrogant descendants
        Known meanness of illustrious fathers,
        Fifth slavish remnants of wreckage
        A game of happiness for offended deliveries!
        You, greedy crowd at the throne,
        Liberty, Genius and Glory hangmen!
        You are ransacked under the law,
        Before you, the court and the truth - keep quiet! ..
        But there is also God's judgment, confidants of debauchery!
        There is a terrible trial: he is waiting;
        It is not accessible to the ringing of gold,
        He knows thoughts and deeds in advance.
        Then in vain you will resort to evil thoughts:
        It will not help you again,
        And you will not wash away all your black blood
        Poet's righteous blood!

        November 1837, XNUMX
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 12 November 2022 11: 32
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          The President of the CAM chose Serdyukov, the CAM set him a task, and the CAM controlled its implementation throughout the entire period, including after Serdyukov. As befits his boss.
          The old truth is that their leader is responsible for the affairs of subordinates.
          Another truth is that a person is judged not by words, but by the results of his deeds.
          The third truth - if you cannot achieve the required results - give way to another, more talented one.
          Instead, Putin, on the contrary, diligently "weeded" the political field from competitors.
          All this taken together speaks of purposefulness and malevolence, that is, the betrayal of the country and people, in full accordance with the semantic meaning of this word.
          Here is what Yuri Boldyrev writes about this, from December 1993 to December 1995. - Member of the first (elected) Federation Council from St. Petersburg. From 1995 to Jan. 2001 - Deputy Chairman of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation:

          For this, all approaches to power were walled up and concreted, so that no other idea, no other way of life, development and movement into the future, except for the stupid eating away of the heritage of the ancestors, could constitute an alternative to the consistent degradation of the country that has been going on for three decades.
          It remains to ask a naive question: so if we, the people of Russia, paid and continue to pay tribute in one form or another, then this is a tribute for what?
          Obviously: for our resignation, inability to self-organize and consent to the usurpation of power by those who have the opportunity to pass off their obligations to external forces as obligations of the state, that is, our obligations with you

          in the article “You have to pay for political incapacity” https://svpressa.ru/politic/article/341038/
          So Vladimir, your lawyer's efforts are unconvincing.
          You need to look at reality, and not at your own ideas about it.
          1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 12: 24
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            both of your theses are false! here one respected expert wrote the truth about the Soviet army, the army of caretakers, the army of hazing, the army of careerists, so I won’t scold Serdyukov’s reform for the sake of joining the crowd, although I don’t like some of his actions, by the way, he had a professional head of the General Staff who ruined everything, but the reduction of the army at that time was necessary, it was a non-combat-ready, but cumbersome monster, there was no one to fight and there were many officers, it was thanks to Serdyukov that money was found for my idea of ​​\u100b\u1991bdevelopment of the Strategic Missile Forces, strategic Boreas, Topoli Yarsy appeared, although for this I had to take apart the officer's feeder in non-combat-ready units (consisting of course of specialists so adored by you in shoulder straps for cutting all kinds of allowances), and to send officers of supply departments to combat work ... if it were not for nuclear weapons, then the abandonment of Kherson would have seemed like flowers to us, if not for Serdyukov’s reform, they would not have collected and those 2008 thousand combat units that are fighting in Ukraine now...why Serdyukov? because your favorite specialists would never go against their corporate unity, the entire Soviet system, permeated with the cut of allowances, gave birth to them and they would never change it, this is the property of specialists to hold on to outdated habits and approaches, especially when you can cut the dough .. .... about the fact that President Putin has cleared approaches to his position from competitors, it’s just ridiculous to me !!! what ruler does not do this? it’s just that a weak ruler cannot do this and is forced to gnaw his tie like Saakashvili, but Putin was able and has been in office for a long time, and you are envious? Putin's mistake is only that he does not always listen to my advice .... but I think he has some additional reasons unknown to me, how much I wrote to cancel the budget rule as a fact that Russia is a colony (not Putin plunged her into this state, but people who wanted lace panties in XNUMX and were imbued with the idolatrous deification of the West and who chose Kuchma and others like Yeltsin, Putin canceled the tribute, so what? not even a month has passed since Ukraine attacked us at the behest of Washington ... and it turned out we were not ready, but if it happened earlier when the satellite constellation of the RF Armed Forces consisted of two old satellites that had served their entire resource, but are still operational (XNUMX). .. it’s easy to rule from the couch and scold the authorities, and when the burden of responsibility is placed on you and, moreover, resources are limited and opportunities are limited .....
          2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 12: 44
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            Quote: Alexey Davydov
            Yuri Boldyrev, from December 1993 to December 1995 - Member of the first (elected) Federation Council from St. Petersburg. From 1995 to Jan. 2001 - Deputy Chairman of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation:

            I know I know! a democrat of the first wave who did not show himself in any way and therefore found himself on the sidelines and now writes articles as a specialist and you blindly believe him, because you yourself do not argue with your mind .... you deify the democratic elections of 1995, but judge for yourself it was the elections of that period and ruined the country the Soviet legacy "for the people deceived by liars", and one of such liars was Boldyrev from the Komsomol leader suddenly becoming an avid democrat .... but it would be better if an undemocratically honest conservative seized power, for example, prosecutor Skuratov and staged an oprichnina, and would shoot all the democrats from your boldyrev, as in tian an myn square 1989, and we would all now be in the greatest power in the world
      2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 12 November 2022 11: 11
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        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        You are a non-specialist.

        I’m actually a mechanic by education .... but I’m better versed in information policy, strategy, economics, and of course in war, I suggested at the beginning of the NMD to deliver the main blows to Lutsk lions and Nikolaev Odessa, experts did not hear me. .. why? because they are specialists and, apart from military affairs, they don’t understand anything, they don’t calculate the political reaction of the West, and military assistance to the Nazis ..... as I wrote, take the cruiser Moscow from the Black Sea Fleet to the Northern Fleet and all the frigates and corvettes from there all the seas, because the coastal anti-ship missiles will inevitably destroy them, but experts believed that all these ships would project force .... and how much I wrote, sell an aircraft carrier and buy missiles of unmanned tanks even ..... and most importantly, the same situation was in 1903 1914 and in 1941 the useless large-tonnage fleet gobbled up finances and turned out to be useless, and there was not enough for field artillery shells ... but the specialists did not listen to me, because they are just specialists (unlike me) and they were taught by cousins ​​and Nikolsky that the fleet " projects force" and they were given the "Naval military power" to read .... even at the everyday level, specialists are now divorced, for example, in construction and repair, I'm not a specialist in construction, but I see that all their "specialism" is just on blowing cheeks in order to rip off more money from the client .... but stupid people all really believe in specialists .... this is the object of their idolatry, but what is a specialist? he sat at a university at his desk well if half of the lectures and in the evenings hung out in drug addicted nightclubs, taught a diploma despite the fact that such specialists often teach in universities, they are so stupid that they cannot earn money for themselves and therefore they give lectures and teach others .... and now it turned out a graduate, let's go further, I found somewhere 70-120 thousand and paid in the academic council and now you are a candidate of science, a specialist scientist, they wrote a dissertation for you or sucked it out of your finger, the main thing was to pay all the necessary signatures ..... diploma wack! and then he saved up a certain amount and became a doctor of science! .... only stupid people believe specialists .... but probably a smart person should understand everything with his mind like me, and he can do it "A specialist is like a flux: his fullness is one-sided:" 101st aphorism from a collection of thoughts and aphorisms " The Fruits of Meditation" (1854) by Kozma Prutkov. Book: My life, my achievements. Today and tomorrow. Author: Henry Ford. "I always drove the so-called specialists who claimed that production should be costly, dirty and complicated, and in their place I invited those who could establish production that was cheap and reliable"
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 12 November 2022 11: 38
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          I already answered you
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  • Antey Offline Antey
    Antey (Andrey Telichko) 10 November 2022 14: 43
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    Quote from Paul3390
    If it were only the army ... So we have the same crap everywhere! Here the order needs to be changed. For under capitalism, the main goal of which is solely the acquisition of dough, and at any cost, it is unprincipled to butt heads with the West .. Because this most coveted dough, by definition, it has orders of magnitude more than Russia ..

    Here are personal observations from military service in the GSVG in the best tank regiment of the Western Group of Forces. Exit on alarm - 50% of vehicles cannot leave the park under their own power! Handing over practical firing - our battalion commander, who dreamed of the Academy of the General Staff, bribes the shooting range operator and he puts the targets with the button. As a result, the battalion passes the test for five. During the check, the Minister of Defense himself comes. So the personnel were driven to the training ground, so that, God forbid, no one caught the eye of the high authorities! I can continue, but in fact all the sores began under your vaunted socialism. Yes, I forgot to say, I served in 1985-87.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 12 November 2022 11: 51
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      I can continue, but in fact all the sores began under your vaunted socialism. Yes, I forgot to say, I served in 1985-87.

      The USSR is a whole era. There were years of the first five-year plans, when the country was rising, becoming a powerful industrial power, there were years of war, when it defeated the united West, there were also years of stagnation, when it lost momentum, stopped developing and began to slide down. This is not about socialism - this is about the serious national illness of its "typical" model.
      We went first. China took into account our experience, abandoned the "standard" and built its own successful national model. Humanity has only one way - to a just society on the planet, the alternative leads to death. We need to take advantage of this mistake, create our own, national model of socialism, and move on. The failure of the world socialist system says only that the "typical" model of socialism does not exist in nature. Each people must go its own way and cost its own national socialism. The creation of a common system for all nations is moving to the next stage of human development
  • wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 10 November 2022 17: 19
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    The president is responsible for the collapse of the army and the economy. After all, it was he who appointed narrow-minded, mediocre and non-professional people to the post of the Ministry of Defense and key posts in the economy. He set tasks for them, saw what they were doing, and when they completely filled up the case, he moved them to new warm positions, in which there was no use from them either. And none of these people took any responsibility. Remember these protégés of Putin Ivanov, Serdyukov, Shoigu, Medvedev, Zubkov, Chemezov, Miller, Mutko, Rogozin, Skvortsova, Kozak and many others who "optimized" the army, economy, healthcare, science, education, sports, social security so much that caused their decline and degradation. NVO showed what our army and navy are now. The country is still reaping the results of the activities of these people. In Russia, there is no modern production of high-tech products, machine tools, devices, materials, electronic base, medical equipment, medicines, etc. We are completely dependent on supplies from abroad for this. We all know firsthand about the state of healthcare, education and sports. But before the sanctions, the country had all the opportunities and conditions for transformation and development. There was a lot of money from the sale of natural resources. And where did we invest them and what did we spend them on? They invested in foreign economies, allowed fabulous capital to be withdrawn from the country, spent it on the construction of Baltic gas pipelines that no one needs now, the holding of Olympiads, Universiades, world championships. Our foreign assets and reserves are seized. Where our country has come thanks to the leadership of our president. To the mess and shame. As it turned out, in our army, with its millionth strength, there is no one to fight, and there is nothing special. We cannot defeat the Nazis and Bandera for 8 months and protect the Russian people from non-humans. We are forced to mobilize and buy weapons in Iran, a country under sanctions for 30 years. And where is our weapon that has no analogues? The President must answer.
  • Jstas Offline Jstas
    Jstas (jstas) 10 November 2022 19: 32
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    Much earlier. In 1993, when the entire current "elite", on camera, personally shot the defenders of the White House in Moscow, proving their personal loyalty to Yeltsin with blood.
  • vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 13 November 2022 13: 27
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    All the troubles of the Russian people began in 1991, when the enemies of the Russian people carried out a coup d'état in the Soviet Union. All participants in the state revolution have become capitalists and are in power. Divide and conquer is the motto of the capitalists. For them, war is enrichment, and ordinary people are consumables. Why blame the generals if the face is crooked.
  • mykola kovacs Offline mykola kovacs
    mykola kovacs (mykola kovac) 14 November 2022 03: 44
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    I knew it: Tungus is not to blame! Putin also did not know anything about anything.