A fighter participating in the NMD did not agree with Kadyrov's opinion about General Lapin

October 3 2022 21

In response to the accusations thrown by Ramzan Kadyrov against the commander of the Central Military District Alexander Lapin of leaving Krasny Liman, one of the fighters of the Brave group spoke out on social networks in defense of the general.

According to the fighter, Alexander Lapin personally directs the combat operations of the troops entrusted to him and is at the forefront of the battle. The general was appointed to command the grouping in the Limansk direction too late - when the "pretend divisions of the Western Military District" had already left their positions.

Our commander is always with us, does not climb out from the front line, personally supervises all actions. He was sent to the Limansky direction to correct the critical situation even when the pretend divisions of the Western Military District (and everyone at the front already knows them) were abandoning their positions. Lapin had to save the situation without our native formations, only 10% of the “Brave” group arrived with him, I am among them

- quotes the Russian military telegram channel "Turned in the war."

The fighter participating in the special operation also noted that the defense of Krasny Liman had to be built literally from the wheels. The Armed Forces of Ukraine threw the main forces at the defenders, and the number of Ukrainian militants was 15-20 times higher than the allied forces. At the same time, Russian military personnel held back the pressure of the enemy for three weeks.

The video shows the offensive of the Russian Armed Forces after crossing the Seversky Donets River in May. The distance to the enemy is about 800 meters. Despite the danger, Alexander Lapin is in the thick of things with his soldiers.

Formerly Ramzan Kadyrov lashed out with criticism on General Lapin for the surrender of Krasny Liman to pro-Kiev troops. According to the head of Chechnya, Lapin is covered upstairs, while the commander should be demoted and sent to the front line as a private.

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Hot Dyusha

+8

3 October 2022 17: 49

The question is different ... how did it happen that they began to build defenses from wheels if they had been trumpeting the offensive since the beginning of September
1. Mobius
  
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  3 October 2022 18: 06
  
  Quote: Hot Dyusha
  The question is different ... how did it happen that they began to build defenses from wheels if they had been trumpeting the offensive since the beginning of September
  
  And this :
  
  the number of Ukrainian fighters was 15-20 times higher than the allied forces
  
  It was stated that in the Limansky direction the enemy involved a group of up to 6 people. HP, of which about 000 were destroyed.
  But, if the troops of the Russian Federation (no "allied" - all Russian, because now Russia) was in "15-20 times less" , that is - Intermission and curtain ...
  1. svoroponov
    
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    4 October 2022 09: 20
    
    Most likely, the fighter writes the truth about the general. The blow fell on a weakly protected place, which was revealed by the Westerners for the Ukrainians and at a convenient moment for this. Also, once a general has taken command, it takes time to figure out what and how. And one more thing, not all units have a single command there. The army has its own, the forces of the LPR and the DPR have their own and their own command from the Russian Guard, which is participating in a special operation. Therefore, there are different possibilities for conducting hostilities. It takes time for coordination and interaction of parts. But this is a question for the General Staff, why in the entire grouping of the operation there is not a single command for units of different subordination in the main areas. Perhaps, at these stages of waging modern wars, it is necessary to change management approaches, abandoning obsolete ones that are good for their time. It's like the use of drones, which changed the approaches to the action of artillery.
    Well, there are enough cases of accusations of top management of incompetence. There was a good general during the beginning of the Second World War in the western military district in tank units. Successfully restrained the Germans and suddenly disappeared. How much dirt was poured on him up to Stalin in betrayal
    After the war, while utilizing burnt equipment from the fields in Western Ukraine, his remains were found in one of the tanks. The general died in battle, having shot all the ammunition. This was voiced by witnesses of his last fight.
    And it would not be bad for Kadyrov to ask to this general, whom he accuses, to his headquarters and to be with him, to observe and even to participate in command and control. Perhaps, based on what the general does and the tasks that are assigned to him, plus based on the order of those forces and means he, the general, is subordinate to, and how he manages them, Kadyrov's opinion will change to the opposite.
    1. svoroponov
      
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      4 October 2022 09: 35
      
      I was asked about the name of the general. To be honest, I didn’t remember, I read about it in one of the memoirs of those who fought about Stalin and his approaches to command and control. There were many surnames who showed themselves as heroes, who betrayed or showed their professional incompetence, but whom Stalin didn’t touch for some reason. Since Stalin was involved in this, such a case has been hushed up since that time. So excuse me, but maybe a search engine on the Internet will find something for you. It's just that I had this incident in my head. Yes, such cases when the generals or commanders of units and subunits were not deservedly accused of something bad, but this was not confirmed later, enough.
    2. Vladimir Tuzakov
      
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      4 October 2022 19: 32
      
      (Vyacheslav) Replica. If a general died in battle as a tanker, he is a criminal, because the general has other tasks that he did not complete ... You need to understand more thoroughly ...
2. Sergey Kuzmin
  
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  4 October 2022 07: 08
  
  The question is different ... how did it happen that they began to build defenses from wheels,
  
  what are the "wheels" where Gerasimov personally visited? .... The Ukrainian publication Defense Express claimed that Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Army, arrived in Izyum to personally command the Russian offensive in the region. According to the Ukrainian Independent News Agency, Gerasimov was wounded on May 1, 2022 near Izyum. Two U.S. officials confirmed that Gerasimov was in the region, but a Ukrainian official denied that Ukraine specifically targeted Gerasimov and said that when the command post was attacked, Gerasimov had already left to return to Russia. Ukrainian officials said Russian General Andrei Simonov was killed in the attack. https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/en-ru.ru.cfff739f-633b96ea-f4699934-74722d776562/https/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Izium_(2022)
South North

0

3 October 2022 18: 51

"fighter" is a cover from the General Staff whistler call sign
1. Mobius
  
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  3 October 2022 19: 05
  
  Quote: south north
  "fighter" is a cover from the General Staff whistler call sign
  
  So they say that they lie most of all on hunting / fishing, on the eve of elections and ... in war.
  1. Sergey Kuzmin
    
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    4 October 2022 07: 20
    
    So they say that they lie most of all on hunting / fishing, on the eve of elections and ... in war.
    
    I don’t understand at all: how did the commander of the largest military district - the Central Military District, turn out to be at the same time the commander of the Izyum-Liman Front, which is located one and a half thousand kilometers from its Central Military District? What kind of organization is this command and control? For your information: the Central Military District is the Military Administrative Unit of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, uniting associations, formations, military units, institutions, institutions stationed in the Siberian, Urals and Volga Federal Districts, within the borders of 29 constituent entities of the Russian Federation. Headquarters - Yekaterinburg
trampoline instructor

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3 October 2022 19: 13

Victory has a lot of fathers; defeat is always an orphan."

Some feigned divisions appeared, about which, like "everyone knows", but the Reporter does not know.
Vladimir Tuzakov

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3 October 2022 19: 20

If a general is involved in the adjustment of columns 800 meters from the enemy, then this is not a general, but a captain (battalion commander in the old way) according to his competence. The general (the position of the commander of the division) must assemble and put together his executive headquarters and give them numerous instructions, so the performers must regulate the columns at the starting point for the attack and regularly report on the execution, and so on. This means that ranks are unjustifiably assigned to such officers (Gerasimov is personally familiar, such as the sentence to Gerasimov himself, because it does not correspond to the tasks of his protégé). Yes, illnesses and sores have accumulated in the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, that it is time for the minister to resign ... And "one fighter said" akin to "one woman said," the author probably jokes ...
usm5

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3 October 2022 19: 38

The Russian problem is more and more obvious - intelligence in the broad sense of the word and the efficiency of command and control, multiplied with a minus sign by the foppish nature of the organization of the NWO.
1_2

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3 October 2022 19: 45

... when the pretend divisions of the Western Military District (and everyone at the front already knows them) abandoned their positions ...

- that is, there were no and no divisions near Kharkov, well, and who is to blame for this if not the General Staff of Gerasimov and the Ministry of Defense as a whole? yes, they removed the commander of the ZVO Zhuravlev, well, Lapin does not have these divisions, and he will retreat, handing over cities and Russians to enemies, and Gerasimov will continue to report to the talker Emperor about the number of killed mercenaries in the hotels of the deep rear. The guilt of the Lapin Zhuravlevs is that they hide the mess, or rather the castration of the Army. which was arranged by the under-reformers (US agents?), starting from the furniture maker-tax clerk Serdyukov and ending with the narrow-minded foreman, as a result of these reforms, the army (ground forces) was reduced to the level of being unable to fight the Bandera Papuans (capturing cities with only a few thousand fighters and without air support), elementary due to the lack of Russian fighters and modern equipment. after all, these reformers explained the reduction of the Russian army by . that the wars of the future will be ... local, with the participation of a small amount of manpower, apparently Serdyukov (who dumped to the West) was expecting an attack by the Balts and Georgians. . Well, they will immediately use nuclear weapons against NATO, in view of ... the weakness of the Russian army (after the castration reforms). if Gerasimov, understanding all this, namely the criminal essence of reforms to copy the Western structure of the army (which there is no doubt, he understands, including the criminal reform of higher education by introducing a bachelor's degree and the Unified State Examination, deputies recently allegedly began to correct shortcomings), continues to hold his tongue in dupe, and to agree with the stupid foreman, fearing to lose his position, then all the military of the Russian Federation must ring the bells so that the Tsar (a layman in military affairs) finally hears and understands all the perniciousness of mirroring from Western tracing paper not only the constitution, education, financial mechanism , laws of the Code of Criminal Procedure, etc., but also the structure of the Russian army according to the Western model. the small armies of individual Western countries are united in NATO, and are quickly turning from small armies of local conflicts into one powerful army, the number 1 goal of which is to quickly defeat (with conventional weapons) the army (of local conflicts) of the Russian Federation during the period of unrest (coup, etc.), with which the Kremlin should lose control over the Strategic Missile Forces due to sabotage and traitors
skeptic

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3 October 2022 22: 05

Who put the mobilized on the breakthrough line? Who did not provide them with communications, why were they not provided with artillery cover? Each action has a specific organizer, with a first and last name.
Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich

0

3 October 2022 22: 29

Only one fighter !!!! There were no air raids, no massive shelling. And there were more than ten attackers.
viktor goblin

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3 October 2022 23: 54

Finding a "scapegoat" is the easiest and safest for your skin! What have you been doing for 30 years? Show\parades and other xxxx! But on the other hand, GDP is all in white .... Lapin saved people! And you ... ! His strength\of the required\ was 10 times less! Managed to withdraw with minimal losses. Interfering with HIM ... Yes, they themselves are! Check the info and don't trust it! Shame on you..
1. Yuri V.A
  
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  4 October 2022 04: 25
  
  Don’t talk nonsense yourself, look at the size of this encirclement ring - there is a maximum of twenty kilometers there, that is, it can even be shot through by field artillery. What prevented several divisions from being brought up in weeks and even if all of China advanced in such a narrow area, not to mention the actions of aviation.
  For systemic failures, demand from Shoigu and Gerasimov, and for Liman Lapin should be responsible
gene1

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4 October 2022 08: 44

For two weeks it was known that the Khokhols were accumulating funds, preparing for the offensive. Before the referenda, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation transferred all their forces to Kherson-Zaporozhye, which is more important here. It became clear that we would have to keep the defense along the entire front. Okay, no artillery, reconnaissance, tanks, infantry, ... But, damn it, why didn’t they mine everything around ??? Min no? Khokhols on their carts flew 25-30 km. in 20 minutes.
Alexander Dutov

0

4 October 2022 19: 10

That is, the general did not have enough 3 (!) Weeks to reinforce the defending troops in Krasny Liman?
1. Vladimir Tuzakov
  
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  4 October 2022 19: 51
  
  A game of giveaway today on the fronts. What is the conclusion, stir up the country with danger, because the parquet generals can’t and don’t know how to do anything, the country will take the rap and fight for them ... So for the vertical of power, only saw loot, and others under fire for the country ...
lord-palladore-11045

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5 October 2022 08: 02

This changes things a lot. Kadyrov does not need to flog a fever. And the troops need to be rotated - people need rest.