Kadyrov commented on the information about the abandonment of Krasny Liman, criticizing General Lapin


On the evening of October 1, the Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed information about the abandonment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as well as the NM of the DPR and LPR of the city of Krasny Lyman. In its operational summary, the department provided details of what happened.


According to the report, the day before, powerful fire strikes were inflicted on the positions of the 66th and 93rd brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which were advancing in the Krasnolimansky direction. Over the past 200 hours, over 5 military personnel, 9 tanks and XNUMX armored combat vehicles of the enemy were destroyed in this sector of the front.

However, despite the losses, having a significant advantage in personnel and technology, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continued to attack, introducing reserves into battle. After the threat of encirclement of Russian troops appeared, the command decided to withdraw forces and assets from Krasny Liman (DPR territory) to more advantageous positions, the agency explained.

The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, commented on the incident in his Telegram channel. He recalled that he always called for telling only the truth, so he cannot remain silent. In the publication, he noted that the defense in this sector of the front was commanded by the Hero of Russia, the commander of the Central Military District, Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, who was transferred to the command of the troops of the Western Military District. At the same time, Lapin deployed mobilized from the LPR and a number of other units in the Krasnolimansky direction, without providing them with proper communications and logistics. Two weeks before the incident, the commander of the Akhmat special forces, Major General Apty Alaudinov, signaled this, who was alarmed by the possible negative development of the situation on this sector of the front.

Kadyrov specified that he had immediately informed Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov about this. In response, Gerasimov assured that Lapin was a competent military leader and would not allow a retreat. At the same time, Kadyrov learned that Lapin moved his headquarters to Starobilsk, located more than 100 km from the front line, and he himself left for Luhansk. Therefore, Kadyrov does not quite understand how Lapin could lead the troops entrusted to him in such an environment. As a result, several settlements and a decent piece of territory were lost.

It's not a shame that Lapin is mediocre. And the fact that he is covered at the top by the leaders in the General Staff. If I had my way, I would demote Lapin to a private, deprive him of his awards and, with a machine gun in his hands, send him to the front line to wash away my shame with blood

Kadyrov stressed.

The head of Chechnya is sure that people with a strong character, courageous and principled, who are worried about their subordinates, should be appointed to command the troops. The commander is the "father" of all soldiers, who cannot leave them without support. He pointed out that nepotism is unacceptable in the army. Kadyrov noted that residents of the territories annexed to Russia the day before (LPR, DPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions) want to feel safe.

I don't know what the RF Ministry of Defense reports to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, but in my personal opinion, more drastic measures should be taken, up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons. It is not necessary to take every decision with an eye on the Western American community - it has already said so, and has done a lot against us. Yesterday there was a parade in Izyum, today a flag in Liman, and what tomorrow? Everything would be fine if it wasn't so bad

- summed up Kadyrov.
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  1. moran Offline moran
    moran (Andrei) 1 October 2022 18: 54
    +15
    That's right, Ramzan!
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 1 October 2022 23: 03
      -1
      Why such confidence?
      1. moran Offline moran
        moran (Andrei) 2 October 2022 14: 03
        +3
        I believe that Ramzan has much more information from more serious sources than the OBS.
    2. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 2 October 2022 17: 04
      +2
      Of course, Kadyrov said correctly, I support his opinion. It confirms that the country is a mess under oligarchic capitalism, and the most important issues of national security are solved behind closed doors, there is no feedback from the authorities with the people, but only empty propaganda in the media.
  2. zloman Offline zloman
    zloman 1 October 2022 19: 08
    +12
    Right words. In Russia, nepotism, as well as in Ukraine. Yes, and in Belarus. And yet, the peoples pushed their foreheads. Like sheep. When and how will it end?
    1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 1 October 2022 19: 25
      +14
      the words are correct, and who from the country's leadership does not say the right words, why no one has admitted mistakes since the age of 14, why no one is indignant when awarding, etc., etc. ... sycophancy, hypocrisy, servility is put at the head of the country ......
      1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
        Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 2 October 2022 00: 44
        +1
        Your post is the truth.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 October 2022 22: 01
      +1
      Quote from zloman
      When and how will it end?

      To the question when it is unlikely that someone will answer, but what the answer is definitely surrender. That's just whose surrender after all the "gestures of good will" and "regroupings" it will be difficult to answer.
      1. zloman Offline zloman
        zloman 1 October 2022 22: 21
        -1
        As they say, we will see.
    3. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 1 October 2022 23: 07
      +1
      Of course. And how to work differently if there are traitors around? Around - traitors. You put your own people on whom you can rely, but they are stupid with inflated self-esteem?
      Do you have such a recipe? An experience you could share?
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 2 October 2022 01: 09
        +2
        Of course, I don’t have personal experience, but I have the historical experience of at least the same WWII then there were also similar problems, but they were solved radically.
      2. Stefanych Offline Stefanych
        Stefanych (Valery Goncharov) 2 October 2022 06: 10
        +4
        Where and when did parquet generals win battles!?
      3. Rusa Offline Rusa
        Rusa 2 October 2022 19: 56
        0
        Do you have such a recipe? ...

        There is a recipe, and the experience of the Second World War. Let the highest authorities of the Russian Federation
        they will study the professionalism of Stalin's people's commissars and how they worked, as well as the principles of selection and placement of personnel, including among the military and the military-industrial complex. The experience of SMERSH, mobilization, etc. will come in handy.
        You won't get far on sycophants and hypocrites alone.
    4. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 12: 28
      +1
      Nepotism is everywhere, even in the Czech Republic
  3. archer 13 Offline archer 13
    archer 13 (Alexander Strelnikov) 1 October 2022 19: 17
    +10
    Why do such mediocrity get heroes?
  4. alsi61 Offline alsi61
    alsi61 (Alexey) 1 October 2022 19: 24
    +14
    They went down in history - they surrendered the first Russian city on the day of the ground forces.
  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 1 October 2022 19: 34
    +13
    No one spoke about the concentration of troops and the threat of encirclement of K. Liman, but for some reason none of the leadership of the front and the General Staff took any preventive measures. The saddest thing is that for the stupidity and stupidity of the leadership, the fighters on the front line and the civilian population are paying with blood.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 2 October 2022 01: 11
      +3
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      The saddest thing is for the stupidity and stupidity of the leadership

      If it were only the stupidity and stupidity of the leadership, I'm afraid there is still something much worse, betrayal.
    2. Hot Dyusha Offline Hot Dyusha
      Hot Dyusha (Dyusha) 2 October 2022 01: 42
      +7
      The feeling that someone from the mishandled at the top is sitting. And this feeling kicks at Gerasimov. Ukrainians are praising him painfully ... the same
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 2 October 2022 02: 06
        +4
        If he sits, then the task of the FSB is to identify him and it doesn’t matter at what top. In the USSR, after the KGB was banned from identifying such characters at the top, we got 1991.
    3. Stefanych Offline Stefanych
      Stefanych (Valery Goncharov) 2 October 2022 06: 18
      +3
      It's insulting and painful to hear "news from the fields"! And it's very scary, nothing changes! And I remember grandfather Krylov with a fable about musicians.
  6. zloman Offline zloman
    zloman 1 October 2022 19: 35
    +8
    For a long time, indeed, we did not fight. Fortunately, of course. But to some extent, unfortunately. In the sense that titles and positions have already depreciated. Everyone is interested in money. I am a soldier. I've already looked at everything. Tired even at times. Although he is in this system. So what to do.
    1. Azvozdam Offline Azvozdam
      Azvozdam (Azvozdam) 1 October 2022 21: 41
      +5
      They fight well, they command badly!
      1. Plumbum Offline Plumbum
        Plumbum (Alexey) 2 October 2022 00: 50
        -2
        Are you Lapin?
  7. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 1 October 2022 19: 35
    +3
    You can enter history, but you cannot leave history. A traitor, mediocrity, a defeatist is in history, as well as on the Internet, it is recorded forever. The whole history with Ukraine is written down forever, it cannot be changed. Future generations will read who was a hero, who was a coward, who was a traitor.
  8. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 1 October 2022 19: 41
    +6
    Lapina under the tribunal! promote respected Ramzan Kadyrov to colonel general, for the truth and the desire to rectify the situation, in general, the system for obtaining general ranks is based on politicking, intrigues of meanness and betrayal, but military general Shamanov is still alive! Shamanov needs to be called to the General Staff with the authority to remove all the incompetent .... I think the admiralty needs to be completely dispersed, the loss of the cruiser Moscow, the presence of frigates and corvettes in closed seas where they are useless, and at the same time the exposure of nuclear submarine bases that the Americans can blow up no worse than SP2 , Petropavlovsk is not guarded by anything at all, in the north only 4 ships should guard several important bases .... for all frigates and corvettes are scattered across the warm seas for the sake of admiral sybarism ..... lack of minesweepers, billions of dollars of investment in unnecessary Kuzya .... appoint some caprazes as admirals, and remove all the current admirals
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 5 October 2022 16: 24
      0
      Today, the respected President of Russia, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, awarded the respected Ramzan Kadyrov the rank of Colonel General, we support the right decision .... it remains to disperse the admirals and transfer all surface ships of the first second rank to the north and Kamchatka, sell Kuzya to China, India https://argumenti.ru/ politics/2022/10/792662
  9. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 1 October 2022 19: 45
    +11
    otherwise the Kremlin inmate is not aware of what is happening there, he knows everything
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  10. bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 1 October 2022 19: 57
    +17
    The worst thing is that 20 residents of Krasny Liman voted in a referendum a week ago for joining Russia. What will happen to them now? Who do they turn to for protection?
  11. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 1 October 2022 19: 58
    +3
    It had to happen, as it happened under the rule of the Bullseye, and then the always busy president. It can be said in a military way that he passed the post, accepted the post. The one who passed the Museum was built for foresight.
  12. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 1 October 2022 20: 07
    +7
    New regions of Russia should be transferred to the status of a federal district. This is already being talked about and probably will be done. The Kremlin plays with words and does not know what to call it. It's all nonsense. The new district must be formed as soon as possible. "At least call it a pot..."

    But without waiting for its legal registration, it is necessary to appoint a plenipotentiary representative (a dictator, if you like) there and transfer to him all power in his district. ABSOLUTELY full power. Introduce martial law at least on the territory of the new district.
    I see only Ramzan Kadyrov as the best candidate for this post of leader.
    1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 1 October 2022 20: 21
      +1
      he has long outgrown this position!!!
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 October 2022 22: 19
      +1
      The name of the district has long been there, I'm talking about the historical name of Novorossiya. Kadyrov is in his place in Chechnya, and in this new district, someone from the locals should get power: Markov, Tsarev, or someone from the Crimean comrades.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 1 October 2022 22: 25
        +4
        Power should be given to a person who knows how to fight. Today it must be military. We don't know personalities. So far, only Kadyrov has been heard. If there are decisive and strong-willed generals in the Moscow Region, then it's time to nominate them.
        There is no place for civilian managers in a war zone.
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 1 October 2022 22: 32
          +3
          Well, then I would suggest Prigozhin, he knows how to conduct military operations correctly.
  13. Oleg V. Offline Oleg V.
    Oleg V. (Oleg Vladimirovich) 1 October 2022 20: 26
    +5
    Or maybe the general was bought?
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 October 2022 22: 33
      +2
      Everything is possible, and most importantly, then not for the first time.
  14. passing by Offline passing by
    passing by (passing by) 1 October 2022 20: 47
    0
    About Lapin

    I know Comrade General from Syria. In 2017, his people arrested me in the desert, I spent 4 hours in the caring hands of guys from the Central Military District.

    We have been working with the Brave since June. They lived on the front line and saw everything with their own eyes. Lisichansk fell thanks to the efforts of the Central Military District. Initially, it was supposed to storm Lisichansk in the forehead, like Severodonetsk. General Lapin insisted on a systematic encirclement.

    After the loss of Volcheyarivka, the Ukrainians began to withdraw their forces from Lysichansk. Then the men from the rear! districts closed the encirclement in the Belogorovka area and for another 2 days finished off the AFU soldiers who went out to their own. Thanks to this maneuver, street fighting in Lisichansk was avoided.

    There may be claims against Lapin, but he certainly cannot be reproached for cowardice. Alexander Pavlovich always led the troops, in the immediate vicinity of the LBS. He arrived in Belogovka by car with a driver and a security guard! All! At the same time, he drove past a flaming MTLB, which was blown up by Ukrainian saboteurs. A day later, our headquarters dismantled a Ukrainian tank.

    When the enemy began to cross the Oskol in small groups, General Lapin led a special forces detachment and went to catch the DRGs. So the point is not at all the cowardice and incompetence of an individual general. The problem is in communication and control systems. And I'm afraid that even Lapin's strength was not enough here, even though he tried to rectify the situation.

    Alexander Kharchenko
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 1 October 2022 20: 53
      0
      Following up on the previous post.

      Lapin asked to start mobilization in JUNE! Even then there weren't enough people. Some battalions had 30 people left, but these guys went ahead and won contrary to military science.

      In any case, public disassembly during the war is a disastrous business. We need to get together. There are many trials ahead, and it will be a shame if Lapin is appointed extreme for the miscalculations of a wide range of officials

      Alexander Kharchenko
    2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 1 October 2022 20: 54
      +2
      if the general catches the DRG, this indicates the level of his commanding qualities, then it is necessary to demote to lieutenant and send to catch saboteurs, this person received the hero of Russia for Lisichansk, but was not even present there and that says it all about the Kremlin leader and about the Moscow Region
      1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
        ja.net.1975 1 October 2022 23: 25
        +6
        the Kremlin is only capable of the Minsk agreements and nothing more.!
  15. passing by Offline passing by
    passing by (passing by) 1 October 2022 20: 50
    0
    Statement by the fighters of the "O" group: about the accusations of Ramzan Kadyrov (https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/2911) against the commander of the Central Military District Alexander Lapin in the retreat near Liman, in fairness, it is necessary to refute the untruth:

    All the conclusions of the emotional text of the head of Chechnya are based on incorrect information: General Lapin DID NOT COMMAND THE DEFENSE OF THE estuary and did not sit out in the rear.

    Blaming the retreat in the Kharkov direction, the general, who did not lead the defense of this sector, but was thrown at it WITH A SMALL PART OF HIS TROOPS, as reinforcements and the last attempt to correct the most difficult situation at the front, is extremely wrong.

    Alexander Lapin never sat in the rear. This can be confirmed by everyone who has ever encountered him. Be it Syria, be it Ukraine, where almost all the fighters of the "O" group know this. This is probably the only group commander who has been in the battle formations of his troops since the beginning of the operation. Therefore, the statement that Lapin was holed up in Lugansk is not true.

    Of course, you need to look for the guilty, but blaming the commander for everything, whose area of ​​​​responsibility was a completely different sector of the front, is to make a gross mistake, from which in the end it will not be possible to draw the right conclusions.

    Fighters of the group "Brave"
    1. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
      Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 1 October 2022 22: 51
      0
      As of the morning of October 1, about 5 Russian soldiers are surrounded in the city of Liman, Donetsk region. This, according to the BBC, said the head of the Lugansk military administration Sergei Gaidai

      centralasia.media/news:1808320?f=cp
  16. Moscow Offline Moscow
    Moscow 1 October 2022 21: 20
    0
    Akella missed

    Remember, being the leader of a wolf pack, he had no right to miss while hunting, otherwise he automatically became a “dead wolf”. Physically, he is alive, performing well in front of his pack, but it is clear that his leadership position may soon collapse if there are no victories. What about the leader of our pack, what about his important wolves?
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 1 October 2022 21: 34
      +3
      Quote: Moscow
      Remember, being the leader of a wolf pack, he had no right to miss while hunting, otherwise he automatically became a “dead wolf”. Physically, he is alive, performing well in front of his pack, but it is clear that his leadership position may soon collapse if there are no victories. What about the leader of our pack, what about his important wolves?

      and if you remember all his activities, he has always been like that, for him the main thing is PR, a tribune, the main thing is to sincerely say the right words, but to ensure the implementation of one’s own decisions is no longer a master’s business, so there are only sycophants and liars around him who give he only needs the information that he WANTS to hear, he is no longer a leader in fact, he is living his life and will most likely leave in disgrace
    2. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 1 October 2022 23: 27
      0
      well, don’t tell me, all the mistakes are justified by the HHP .....!
  17. Azvozdam Offline Azvozdam
    Azvozdam (Azvozdam) 1 October 2022 21: 35
    +2
    A man must be judged by his deeds...
  18. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 1 October 2022 21: 52
    +5
    mediocrity Lapin is covered by Gerasimov (and this is after the surrender of Balakleya and the environment of Liman), and Gerasimov is covered by Shoigu, and Shoigu is covered by the Tsar of all money himself,
    or maybe he is not mediocrity at all, but simply earns permanent residence in NATO? like Serdyukov (the bearer of secrets), who safely dumped from the Russian Federation, like the generals of Judas Hussein, who handed over the country to the West for plunder. Again (thievish, corrupt, mediocre and not afraid of punishment) personnel let Putin down. and no landings. and if there are no landings, then the rotting of the power vertical of multimillionaires (billionaires) will continue to continue, this is the main mistake of Tsar Nikolashka and his ideological successor Putin - building a power vertical of rich hucksters, for whom personal interests (located in the West) are higher than state ones. such state hucksters should be weeded out by special services, but apparently the hucksters are in charge there too. the country needs new people, people of socialist ideology, who do not have the money-grubbing gene. They must clean up and reload the country, but first they need to bring the NWO to the Polish border, and for this, the "commander in chief" needs to remove the striped armchair mediocrity and Judas from the command of the NWO, replace them with LDNR commanders, they gained invaluable combat experience in their own skin

    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 1 October 2022 22: 34
      +3
      for all of the above, it is necessary to remove the one who created all this, and this is currently impossible according to the Constitution, so you will have to endure the connivance of this Leopold cat
  19. cooper Online cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 1 October 2022 22: 00
    +9
    This (the surrender of the now Russian city of Krasny Liman) can hardly be called a shame otherwise ..
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 1 October 2022 22: 30
      +6
      Quote: Cooper
      It's hard to call it anything other than a disgrace.

      Well, why, you can call it a betrayal.
      1. cooper Online cooper
        cooper (Alexander) 1 October 2022 23: 04
        +1
        I do not argue, alas ..
  20. Pavel volkov Offline Pavel volkov
    Pavel volkov (Pavel Volkov) 1 October 2022 22: 40
    +1
    Well, Lapina under the tribunal? Hmm...
  21. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 1 October 2022 23: 03
    +1
    Let's not get hot. Everyone must do their job.
    And there are other opinions.
    https://t.me/rybar/39631
  22. cooper Online cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 1 October 2022 23: 03
    +6
    Without crushing blows on ALL the critical infrastructure of the Ukrainian Reich, on the political / military elite, on the most important energy, communications / communications facilities, junction stations, strategic bridges and crossings for the supply of Western weapons, etc. .. difficulties for Russia will only increase. And the inaction of the Supreme and the General Staff in this aspect is completely incomprehensible ...
    1. ja.net.1975 Offline ja.net.1975
      ja.net.1975 1 October 2022 23: 33
      0
      with such a vertical of power, only the "level and life expectancy" rises ........
  23. Hiker Offline Hiker
    Hiker (Dmitriy) 1 October 2022 23: 33
    +6
    Russia leaves the cities.
    Throws those who believed her heart
    Russia leaves the cities
    As in the 41st, giving back to the Germans .....
  24. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 2 October 2022 00: 50
    +7
    I wrote and spoke this on May 14, 2022:

    The history of the Second World War repeats itself. On the eve of that war, the Moscow generals degraded and consisted of sycophants and sycophants. Real commanders were either destroyed or squeezed out of the border or to the periphery. Therefore, the incompetent army, led by mediocrity, suffered huge losses and retreated ... until Stalin realized that he himself would soon be kirdyk. The fried rooster got to his Georgian brains and he abruptly changed key generals. Whom he shot, whom he demoted, whom he imprisoned .... called to the General Staff from the Far East, temporarily forgetting the grievances, Zhukov ... Zhukov assembled a team of real generals and things went smoothly. So now. For 30 years of the liberal management paradigm, there are only intriguers, bribe-takers and sycophants in the General Staff .... these, by definition, cannot be talented commanders. When the first columns of our troops in Ukraine were defeated, police batons, shields and helmets were found in the burned Russian cars to disperse the disgruntled natives! This suggests that if they were preparing an operation, then it was completely different. And this suggests that everything is like at the beginning of the Second World War ... to be delicate with the enemy is more expensive for yourself, but they continue to be delicate! A long time ago it was necessary to bomb all bridges and network electrical substations! As well as fuel and lubricants warehouses and warehouses with food, completely close the border with Moldova, Poland, Romania!
    Until real, and not parquet, commanders are put at the helm, there will be complete crap ... and this, as the practice of history shows, is for a long time. It will end with nuclear strikes. Read - nuclear war. The collective West will not give up so easily. USA IS CRUSHING.
  25. Moscow Offline Moscow
    Moscow 2 October 2022 01: 58
    +1
    Liman yesterday and today is not Russian. It needs to be known. This is still a settlement of the DPR. The DPR is not yet part of the Russian Federation, as long as there is no law on this. It will be on October 3-4, 2022 after the release of the constitutional law. Of course, it’s a pity for Liman, it’s a pity for the people that died there and now will die from the SBU.
  26. Dima3 Offline Dima3
    Dima3 (Dima) 2 October 2022 03: 55
    +3
    it doesn't matter if this general is good or incompetent. It’s a fact that you can try as much as you like for the numerical advantage of the Ukrainians, but having air supremacy under you, the ability to use the latest missiles, etc., and most importantly, this was not a sudden attack. crests were preparing for it, and we knew it. One could say something like, he didn’t justify it, but after all, here we are talking not only about the loss of the city, how many people died. I don’t know how the generals live with it later ...
  27. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
    Kapany3 2 October 2022 06: 53
    -1
    Quote: rotkiv04
    if the general catches the DRG, this indicates the level of his commanding qualities, then it is necessary to demote to lieutenant and send to catch saboteurs, this person received the hero of Russia for Lisichansk, but was not even present there and that says it all about the Kremlin leader and about the Moscow Region

    Your head is either empty or one straw. Commanders of this level SHOULD NOT RIDE ON THE ENEMY MACHINE GUN WITH A SHABLE. Their task is to correctly arrange forces and means, of course, if they are available, and give the right orders. But most civilians don't get it.
    1. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 08: 13
      +3
      And should such generals win or only retreat to better positions?
    2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 2 October 2022 08: 31
      0
      Quote: Kapany3
      Quote: rotkiv04
      if the general catches the DRG, this indicates the level of his commanding qualities, then it is necessary to demote to lieutenant and send to catch saboteurs, this person received the hero of Russia for Lisichansk, but was not even present there and that says it all about the Kremlin leader and about the Moscow Region

      Your head is either empty or one straw. Commanders of this level SHOULD NOT RIDE ON THE ENEMY MACHINE GUN WITH A SHABLE. Their task is to correctly arrange forces and means, of course, if they are available, and give the right orders. But most civilians don't get it.

      You are either drunk or you don’t know how to read what is written, you are like a non-joyful schoolboy - I look in a book and see a fig, read my comment carefully and syllable by syllable, where it says that the general should ride a machine gun with a saber, it just says reverse
  28. sergeu2 Offline sergeu2
    sergeu2 (sergeu) 2 October 2022 07: 54
    0
    PAWS have hung medals, but there is no shame. God punish them.
  29. Larisa Z. Offline Larisa Z.
    Larisa Z. (Larisa Vavilova) 2 October 2022 08: 09
    +2
    They have been broadcasting about Beautiful Liman from boxes of all stripes for more than two weeks, but, apparently, our command does not have reserves to resolve this issue. This leads to hard thinking. It looks like the red car has stalled and we ordinary people need to help her get out of this quagmire.
    What and how, everyone decides for himself ...
  30. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 2 October 2022 08: 11
    +7
    All around are thieves, incompetent leaders. Shoigu, apparently, cannot cope with the position of minister. All summer they continued with the Mannerheim line, although even all sofa generals criticized such tactics. How low is the level of high command. Thanks to Medvedev, dozens of schools were closed !!!!!! One of them is the Tambov School of Communications. And they still haven’t restored it. And most importantly, they always lie, they switched to the best positions. Maybe the next best one will be in the Ural Mountains? We have been fighting for seven months, we have not completely liberated almost more than one region! Some generals with cloudy eyes, and officials with thick necks, bald heads at a meeting with the president or minister ..
  31. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 2 October 2022 08: 11
    +3
    Quote: gene1
    Those. the generals are not to blame, since the database in Ukraine is "a model of the hostilities of the last century." And the 6 points listed below indicate the opposite: drones, satellite communications / reconnaissance / guidance, equipment, electronic warfare, ... "Artillery has proven its effectiveness" - but where is one shot - one target? They cover the territory for three hours, then a group comes, gets a rebuff, and again polishes the ground for three hours. These are our generals, unfortunately, children of past wars, children of tank wedges and missile strikes. Did any of them play computer games? Timoshenko, Zhukov, Malinovsky, Vasilevsky, Rokossovsky, ... at the beginning of the Second World War 45 + - years. And the current 65 + -. SVO is their failure. Voroshilov was removed after two months of the Second World War (he was 60 years old and he was a child of cavalry attacks)

    This is a post dated June 30th. Yep, it's been 4 months. If there is no desire to understand people, you can simply dismiss everyone who is 60+ from the army
  32. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 2 October 2022 08: 11
    +2
    Mediocrity Shoigu and Gerasimov. They commit a crime with their ignorance.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 2 October 2022 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: Yuri Bryansky
      Mediocrity Shoigu and Gerasimov. They commit a crime with their ignorance.

      and the one who entrusted them and put them in these positions then who?
  33. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 2 October 2022 09: 38
    0
    Quote: rotkiv04
    Quote: Yuri Bryansky
    Mediocrity Shoigu and Gerasimov. They commit a crime with their ignorance.

    and the one who entrusted them and put them in these positions then who? Or a traitor or a criminal

    Not changing employees is both a plus and a minus for Putin. In this matter, he does not have a golden mean.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 2 October 2022 09: 57
      +3
      Quote: gene1
      Quote: rotkiv04
      Quote: Yuri Bryansky
      Mediocrity Shoigu and Gerasimov. They commit a crime with their ignorance.

      and the one who entrusted them and put them in these positions then who? Or a traitor or a criminal

      Not changing employees is both a plus and a minus for Putin. In this matter, he does not have a golden mean.

      if you remember his appointments and reassignments, then the deck remains unchanged, no one is kicked out for failing work, this happens because people are selected for positions based on personal devotion, and not professional suitability
  34. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 2 October 2022 11: 00
    +1
    Kadyrov in his place is certainly well done
    however, his attempts to influence the central government are questionable
    general today, prime minister tomorrow and then who, GDP?
    Kadyrov can also be used by those who undermine the country
    whisper to him who is to blame, let him voice
    it’s not the one who screwed up the next position that’s to blame, but the system itself that has existed since the days of the USSR, nepotism, mutual responsibility, and so on and so forth
    found the last one, atu of his sofa troops, tomorrow Ramzan will tell another, so brothers?
    we are all in this system, each in his place and all together must drink the cup of shame to the bottom, each
  35. communist soldier (Communist soldier) 2 October 2022 14: 47
    -4
    Most Russian keyboard heroes take it upon themselves to criticize Russian generals. In any war there are winners and losers, but the most important thing is the end result. Why didn't these heroes wonder if Russia was capable of producing enough and timely delivery of the heavy weapons needed for the Liman Front? How does the number of soldiers and weapons in Liman compare? Will Russia have enough reserves to move towards Liman?
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 2 October 2022 17: 45
      +1
      Quote: Communist Soldier
      Most Russian keyboard heroes

      Ramzan Akhmatovich keyboard hero?
    2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 2 October 2022 20: 07
      0
      Quote: Communist Soldier
      ... How do the number of soldiers and weapons in Liman compare? Will Russia have enough reserves to move towards Liman?

      and all these questions are just keyboard heroes and they have been wanting to find out for almost 8 months now, but they are constantly being told that everything is going according to plan and "we are cracking them like nuts", can you answer these questions for us, sofa iksperds? And then there are more and more questions about this very plan, maybe it differs from the declared goals of the NWO
    3. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 12: 24
      0
      All these questions are just for the generals, and not for sofas.
      Lies and slovenliness are evident - follow the links of the military correspondents.
      A question for the "... generals" (whatever you like, but hardly for truly Russian ones) - how do the dill attack openly not only with armored columns (battalions and divisions - tens and hundreds of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles), and even with aircraft - if "the air is ours" according to Konashenkov ..?
      Why lie to the people ..?! We all bear the brunt of this war, even "in the rear".
      And where is our artillery.? (it even exists, but target designation goes through a large branched circle.
      Stop lying!
      These generals - only to change. the entire top. including MO. Otherwise, we have a complete P.
  36. South North Offline South North
    South North (don ost) 2 October 2022 15: 23
    +2
    need Stalin
    remind the Kremlin where the machine hit
    to the head in Libya if you forgot
  37. South North Offline South North
    South North (don ost) 2 October 2022 16: 49
    +1
    ramzan=zhukov
    kremlin=papuans with glass beads
  38. South North Offline South North
    South North (don ost) 2 October 2022 17: 49
    +2
    silence is a beast
  39. nikanikolich Offline nikanikolich
    nikanikolich (nikola) 2 October 2022 20: 23
    +2
    All this is reminiscent of the First World War, with the current breakdown, I think its results are just around the corner. Respect to Ramzan for sincere and truthful words
    1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 12: 26
      0
      True, they say, he holds his own from the Chechen Republic (they go in the second stage - to clean up), but he expressed the opinion of the people, of course.
  40. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 October 2022 12: 16
    0
    In the days of the USSR, the hero's star really had to be earned. Now this concept is practically leveled, and the conditions for obtaining it are more and more "in their own way" (as are hundreds of thousands of "honorary architects, princes and other" mummers ").
    To them, "heroes of labor" - A. Miller: he rolled pipes in the rear for the Nord Stream ..? or did several times in the fullest way with this same flow ..... got pissed off ..?

    Serdyukov A. is also a "hero of Russia" (as well as "Nevsky", "Courage", "For Merit", etc.).. Normal, yes ..? Where is his well-fed .... fought ...?

    For this reason, there is no full-fledged popular upsurge for "partial mobilization" (they lie, bastards, but they will sacrifice you without looking).

    This war should not only demolish the "outskirts of lovers of pig snouts and tails", but also change our government to the people's - at the same time and only under this condition, all this mess is worth the candle, only under this condition we will not lose.

    We really need a people's leader.