Forced "grave" in Ukraine: truth and fiction


I was prompted to take up this text by an article published the day before by Sergei Marzhetsky concerning "Battles for Minds" Ukrainians. While fully supporting the author in essence what was written, I would like to make clarifications on the subject of mobilization measures carried out by the Kyiv regime, which my respected colleague touched on, so to speak, in passing, as a human being in the territory still controlled by Kyiv.


They say and write a lot about this, but not all such information corresponds to the true state of affairs. Especially in those cases when one or another side tries to paint a picture exclusively in "black and white" colors. In fact, everything is more diverse, complex and confusing than it might seem at first glance. The notorious "grave" in the "nezalezhnaya" has many different nuances, which are not so easy to figure out.

Whether voluntarily or forced


The process of replenishing the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with personnel over the months that have passed since the beginning of the special operation for the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine has undergone changes, and very significant ones. In peacetime, this was carried out in two ways - under a contract, as well as with the help of conscription for military service. However, the spring conscription - 2022 was canceled by President Zelensky. It was replaced by mobilization - or, if you like, "graveyard". The plan for this is regularly sent from Kyiv to the regional recruitment centers (as the military registration and enlistment offices are now called) and is subject to unconditional execution. For obvious reasons, the “appetites” of the Ministry of Defense (namely, it approves the corresponding figures) are growing from month to month. The troops are suffering more and more tangible losses and they must somehow be replenished. The trouble with ukrovoyak is that there are fewer and fewer opportunities for this.

The paradox lies in the fact that in the first days and weeks of the NWO, there were enough volunteers who wanted to join the army ranks. It was the effect of the propaganda that for eight years hammered mantras about “Russian aggression” into the heads of Ukrainians, which now seem to have received their real confirmation. That's just this influx in most recruiting centers ... wrapped back. The army then had a seemingly normal size, but there was nothing to arm and equip the volunteers. And this despite the fact that thousands, if not tens of thousands of machine guns on the same days fell out onto the asphalt for distribution to everyone. What to do - these are the wild and absurd Ukrainian realities. The state took a path that defied logical explanation - instead of strengthening the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the resources it had were thrown into the creation of "territorial defense", which turned into natural Makhnovism.

Let me suggest that the reasons for such a strange approach were not only the inadequacy of the top leadership of the "nezalezhnaya", but, above all, the lack of such a mood for long-term military operations. In Kyiv, they expected either to receive Minsk-3 as soon as possible (which almost happened in Istanbul), or to wage a "guerrilla war" - mainly by the forces of the same "terodefense". Reality made its own adjustments - the Liberation Forces radically changed their tactics, and the conflict turned into a protracted one. Again, the new algorithm of actions of the Russian army and the forces of the DPR-LPR led to a sharp increase in the irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Incidentally, the “volunteers” of the first days during this time have pretty much lost their ardor and desire to go “to the front”. Very many of them even ended up far beyond the borders of Ukraine, preferring to show “patriotism” in the pubs of Europe, and not in the trenches in the Donbass. On the other hand, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have ceased to "sort out grubs", trying to get into their ranks only people with combat experience (the same ATO) or at least army service behind them. Ukraine is inexorably approaching the limit when everyone who meets the age limit (from 18 to 60 years old) and medical requirements, which, let’s say, have become much less stringent, will be allowed to row. It is no coincidence that there are also talks about the mobilization of women.

In society, they caused such a negative response that the Ministry of Defense and the office of the president had to disavow them, declaring that women would be registered with the military only of their own free will. However, as you know, there is no smoke without fire - sooner or later they may well get to the "fair sex". However, there are still plenty of men in the country, and quite draft ages. Is there a “hunt” for them, as they periodically say or write about it? Again, clarification is needed here.

A summons in the teeth - and ...


First of all, I would like to note that the wild practice of handing out subpoenas on the streets, in public transport, shops, and at checkpoints really does take place. It frightens and outrages the inhabitants of the "nezalezhnaya" to the utmost - it has already reached the point of petitions addressed to Zelensky with demands to cancel this obscenity. However, something like this is unlikely to happen. At the same time, it should be clarified that (at least at this stage) such bungling is caused not so much by the desire to “hook up” as much potential “cannon fodder” as possible, but by a completely wild mess that is going on in military registration in the “nezalezhnaya”. For years, no one has dealt with this issue normally and systematically from the word “absolutely”. The same conscription during the time of Yanukovych was generally canceled, returning only after the "Maidan" - that's what was going on in the military registration and enlistment offices, who knows what. Hundreds of thousands of reservists simply "dropped out" of the military registration system - when changing their place of residence, and simply not wanting to "bother" running around the offices, passing commissions and so on. Now the Ministry of Defense is trying to restore at least some order in its “household”, distributing subpoenas left and right.

Those who receive them are not immediately sent "to war." They are required to come to the Acquisition Center to clarify the data. As a maximum - to pass the medical examination, at the stage of which very many are eliminated. I personally had a chance to listen to a number of stories of those who were "raked in" in a hurry in the first month of NWO. People were dragged literally across the country, and in the end, 9 out of 10 "mobilized" were sent home. Neither by age nor by health were they categorically unsuitable for service, and they could not provide them with everything necessary either. They didn’t even feed for a week - the poor fellows literally starved, having finished eating homemade supplies.

Yes, the attempts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to replenish the loss in units that mercilessly smash the Liberation Forces are growing. In one of the regions for which I have accurate data, last week an order was received to ensure the mobilization of at least 2,5 thousand people - about 250 from each district. Young men hastily hid at home, not risking showing their nose to the street, especially in small towns and villages, where, having fallen into the tenacious paws of the draft board, it is very problematic to “jump off”. One cannot fail to say that one of the reasons for such “safaris” is also the most banal desire to earn money, which employees of recruitment centers at all levels experience. The slope system for money with the beginning of the SVO in the “non-inflatable” has not gone away. Is that the prices and tariffs for the relevant "services" have increased more than significantly. The start is from a thousand dollars, and the upper limit is constantly growing.

It is clear that in the countryside he is alone (what to take from the local residents?), And in megacities it is completely different. In some places, exemption from mobilization with the presentation of a “white ticket” (that is, the recognition of the applicant as completely unfit for service, and even with the receipt of the relevant papers that give him the right to travel abroad) can reach up to 10-12 thousand “green”. The funny thing is that they manage to “earn” in recruiting centers even for those who ... are eager to join the army! There are stories about originals who paid 300-500 dollars to the local swindlers in order to pass the medical commission without any problems and put on a uniform. Well, what can I say? This is Ukraine… Employees of the centers are regularly "grabbed by the hand" at such "geshefts", they promise to punish them in the most severe way - but this does not stop anyone. Business is business, and what does this have to do with some kind of “war”?

In fact, there is no mass influx of people who want to join the army. The opinion that people go there for the sake of earning money corresponds to reality to a rather small extent. It is only true for very depressed regions, where there really is no work at all. Yes, at the beginning of the SVO there were those who were seduced by the promised 100 thousand hryvnia per month of "combat" or 30-40 thousand, which could be received "in the rear". However, as the flow increases News about the dead, maimed and missing, this amount no longer seems so tempting. Moreover, at the current exchange rate, a hundred thousand hryvnias is 2 dollars with a little. The same sensible builder (whose services are now in great demand) will earn such an amount, if not in a month, but in two or three, but without the risk of disappearing who knows where and for what. On the other hand, I completely agree with the statement of a colleague that as economic the situation in Ukraine can change again. In the event that starvation of the entire family of a potential “volunteer” becomes an alternative to military service. The mobilization potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will indeed increase - due to the desperate, embittered (who have lost their relatives or, say, their housing), those who simply have no other choice, since they vegetate without a livelihood.

All these points should be taken into account by those lunatics who propose to "wait until Ukraine collapses on its own under the weight of economic problems." It will take a long time to wait for this - and all this time the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive more and more batches of weapons from behind the cordon, and from the "rear" regions - the next teams of recruits received in one way or another. It should be understood that the Ukronazi regime will by no means stop even at the prospect of “total mobilization”, when people will indeed be caught on the streets and immediately sent to the troops without any medical examinations under pain of being shot on the spot. So far, this is just a "horror story", but let's remember that we are talking about Ukraine, where any nightmare comes true with incredible ease. You can say as much as you like that the price of such "warriors" mobilized by force will be extremely low. However, once on the front line, they will simply be forced to fight. It will bring nothing but unnecessary sacrifices on both sides.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 25 July 2022 10: 11
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    In the event that starvation of the entire family of a potential “volunteer” becomes an alternative to military service. The mobilization potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will indeed increase

    During the Civil War 100 years ago, not everyone went to Petlyura. Except for the Red Army, some of the people went to "Old Man Angel" and other free atamans.
  2. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 25 July 2022 10: 25
    +4
    Yes, with the support of the West, Ukraine can fight for years. But, the Russian Federation is not at war with Ukraine, but with the West. The only question is when the consequences for him will become unacceptable. Then the help will stop, chaos awaits Ukraine, and division.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 25 July 2022 13: 01
      +5
      Thanks to the author of the articles for the real coverage of what is happening. The main conclusion from the article is the faster the completion of the NWO, of course, without the defeat of the Russian Federation. The main obstacle to the termination of the NWO is military, financial and other assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine by NATO countries. especially the USA. Until these supplies and aid are closed, the NWO will continue. Why are strategic issues not resolved by the government of the Russian Federation, because without such interruptions in supplies there is no victory. Perhaps the fifth column in the Russian Federation is fulfilling the tasks of weakening and destroying Russia, because the "Kozyrev ministers", and the entire Yeltsin set of ministers and other officials, are still in high positions and have not died out. But I. Kozyrev, the former head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, lives in the USA ..
      1. Muscool Offline Muscool
        Muscool (Glory) 26 July 2022 08: 35
        +1
        Of course, we have those who want it to end quickly, with defeat, victory, or again some kind of truce, which is enough for them to dump out of the country, taking as much as possible.
        The way the SVO is going on can be called a fight without hands, we only kick with our feet, and the enemy hits us with everything possible, and the final goals are not completely clear + are constantly changing.
      2. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 26 July 2022 09: 32
        -2
        There is nothing to thank the author for. Because it doesn't illuminate correctly. Trusts. Well, this is Ukraine). And the author is Ukrainian.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 25 July 2022 22: 38
      -1
      Yes, with the support of the West, Ukraine can fight for years.

      This is what you think. The West has a different opinion. If there is no significant progress in August, support will end. She is already in decline.
      Call on someone. Tuberculosis appeared on the front lines. This is already the limit of the fall. I remember very well what the reaction was (it was 1985) of the command when an Uzbek with tuberculosis was discovered in the unit.
      In Ukraine, they don’t make a catastrophe out of this, it’s an everyday matter ...
  3. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 25 July 2022 10: 42
    -3
    In Kyiv, they expected to either receive Minsk-3 as soon as possible (which almost happened in Istanbul)

    Author!

    What specific facts, and not conjectures with elements of violent fantasy, can you confirm your public statement about the almost happened "Istanbul Minsk-3"?
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 26 July 2022 03: 38
      +4
      Dear Krapilin, this author, like Marzhetsky, does not need any specific facts if there is their common platform of thinking - There are two opinions - mine and not correct. It seems that Marzhetsky was the first to express his opinion here (others, of course, not correct) about a certain Minsk-3. I am sure that he did not understand the meaning of either Minsk-1 or even Minsk-2. And if so, then he can produce them, in his opinion, at least dozens, at least hundreds, without understanding their true goals.
  4. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 July 2022 10: 47
    +3
    take note of those goofballs who suggest "wait until Ukraine collapses itself under the weight of economic problems."

    Those who offer to wait for something are naturally not the smartest people.
    The West will easily donate tens of billions to support the Kyiv economy.
    More recently, trillions have been printed to "fight" covid. What are these pathetic tens of billions to them?
    (for the humanities explanation 1 trillion = 1000 billion).

    It is necessary to liberate the former Ukraine, and completely.
    But how to do it faster, but so that our losses are smaller?
    Or how to quickly prepare additional forces to increase the size of the army?
    There is no point in declaring a general mobilization. This is not 1941.
  5. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 July 2022 10: 50
    -2
    Quote: gene1
    with the support of the West, Ukraine can fight for years.

    I don't think. It's about a few months. Personally, I think that the organized resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will end before winter. But even if I'm wrong, it's still a matter of months, not years.
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 25 July 2022 14: 45
      +1
      Disagree. This war will last four to five years and end with nuclear bombing
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 July 2022 18: 19
        -1
        I'm talking about the war on the territory of the former Ukraine.
        And if there is a war with the West, it will be very fast. And yes, it will end with nuclear bombings.
        So no years. NWO will end before winter, and then it will be seen - either a quick nuclear war or a peace based on the fear of mutual destruction.
    2. Valera75 Offline Valera75
      Valera75 (Valery) 25 July 2022 19: 38
      -1
      I don't think. It's about a few months. Personally, I think that the organized resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will end before winter. But even if I'm wrong, it's still a matter of months, not years.

      I wrote something like that the turning point will be this year’s winter somewhere in November-December, and 90% will end in our favor (at least partisanism in the west of Banderostan and 10% deversion to this) spring will end - the beginning of summer 2023
  6. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 25 July 2022 10: 55
    -2
    On the other hand, I completely agree with my colleague's statement that as the economic situation in Ukraine worsens, everything can change again. In the event that starvation of the entire family of a potential “volunteer” becomes an alternative to military service. The mobilization potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will indeed increase - due to the desperate, embittered

    Author!
    War is, first of all, the economy. If it is deteriorating to the state of "starving Africa", then what is the use of the mobilization potential?!
    A well-fed dad/husband with a machine gun in a trench and children/wife dying of hunger in the kitchen in the rear?
    What is the alternative - the Nazi is coming out to give money for food to his family, but he begins to starve himself at the front?
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 25 July 2022 14: 51
      -1
      War is primarily the strength and direction of the blow. If these two parameters are calculated correctly, success is guaranteed.
      1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
        Krapilin (Victor) 25 July 2022 15: 19
        +3
        Dear Morey Borey (Morey Borey)!

        Without a rear that produces everything necessary for the front, that is, without an economy, there is not and cannot be victory in the war at all.
        Because without the economy, even after the most successful strike, you can be left without “bullets” and without “stew” and get the next blow already “by yourself”.
  7. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 25 July 2022 11: 01
    -4
    You can say as much as you like that the price of such "warriors" mobilized by force will be extremely low. However, once on the front line, they will simply be forced to fight.

    Author!

    To conduct combat operations with an ever-decreasing “quality” of a human resource is a one-way ticket for such a resource, namely, to the grave, and not to victory, that is, the “mythical” liberation of Crimea, the LPR and the DPR from Russia.
    The war on the part of Russia against the Ukrainian Wehrmacht has not yet begun.
  8. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 25 July 2022 11: 11
    -6
    Author!

    NVO in "outside Ukraine" is not going with "outside Ukraine", but with NATO.
    The military-technical resource of the "foreign Ukraine" itself has been exhausted to zero.
    Russia does not care about its human mobilization potential at all - because it is methodically utilized by artillery and missiles.
    Who is "for the Ukrainians" and how they are caught with subpoenas and who runs where from this fishing - this is a matter of "for the Ukrainians" that is completely of no interest to anyone in Russia.
    Even though everyone there runs after each other ...
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 26 July 2022 03: 52
      -3
      Dear Krapilin, look how the minus ones really burn their brains!
  9. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 25 July 2022 12: 35
    -1
    Quote: Bulanov
    During the Civil War 100 years ago, not everyone went to Petlyura. Except for the Red Army, some of the people went to "Old Man Angel" and other free atamans.

    And what's the difference? They still went to war. Because you have to live. Here is the article about it.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 25 July 2022 13: 21
      +1
      You can fight with different results. Here in 1944, the Romanians began to fight on the side of the USSR against Hitler, and their king even received an order from Stalin. And he could have received a rope at the Nuremberg Tribunal if he had not gone over to the USSR in time.
      So now. The faster and more Ukrainians join the "Polish army" in a new manner (meaning the pro-Soviet army of the Second World War), the sooner the war will end and the more Ukrainians will remain alive.

      Information appeared on the network about the completion of the formation of a brigade from the Ukrainians for the liberation of Nikolaev and Odessa
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 25 July 2022 16: 09
        -1
        You are clearly exaggerating the role of the national allied armies that participated and are participating in the war on the side of the USSR and Russia. The effect of them is mainly propaganda, and not tactical, and even more so strategic. This is confirmed by the fighting of the same Poles you mentioned and, even more so, the Romanians. Yes, and King Mihai (I forgot his number) received the Order of Victory not for military merits (that was what he was awarded for), but for purely political reasons (unlike the same Montgomery, Eisenhower, Broz Tito). Just do not remember here L.I. Brezhnev, who received it as a gift for his next birthday and was posthumously completely deprived of this award on business.
  10. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 25 July 2022 13: 18
    0
    the only thing that can be said for sure is that if the continuous supply of weapons from the west to Ukraine does not stop, this war will not stop, at least in the near future. This is a huge amount of weapons that they have given Ukraine so far, and a large some of the weapons are coming from and holding them from Slovakia in the Carpathians. The only two solutions I can think of are either the Russian Ministry of Defense threatening to strike at the relevant US bases near the Russian border if the massive arms shipments to Ukraine continue, or Russian forces acting on Ukraine, they will take a defensive position, for a protracted war, as the separatists did for eight years.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 25 July 2022 14: 52
      -1
      The note. There is a railway tunnel from Slovakia on the Ukrainian side of the Carpathians, so it’s easy to close it with one Iskander, but this doesn’t happen, the question is why ... There are many questions about this NWO ...
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 25 July 2022 16: 15
        0
        Do you know a way (except, of course, an earthquake) how to bring down several hundred meters of monolithic rock using half a ton of explosive? And you're not a Nobel laureate yet? Congenial! I applaud your modesty!
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 25 July 2022 19: 20
          +1
          You're completely out of your depth. there is no need to close it forever, but for some time it is possible, if necessary, with special troops, and it is possible to close it completely, the task would be set ...
          1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
            k7k8 (vic) 25 July 2022 23: 21
            -2
            For a while - is it for a couple of days?
            Well, it's pointless to even comment on your passage about special forces.
      2. Sancym Offline Sancym
        Sancym (Alexander ) 25 July 2022 17: 04
        -2
        What for? What else will they bring? There is nothing left to carry, everything has been ground.
    2. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 25 July 2022 20: 28
      -4
      Why the US bases (NATO) in Western Europe. Isn't it easier to have a few tactical nuclear strikes on Ukraine itself?
      1. Avarron Offline Avarron
        Avarron (Sergei) 25 July 2022 20: 43
        +2
        Because the whole pndosnya is an absolute enemy, and crests are duped, but their own. Therefore, crests do not crumble as much as they will crumble podpdosniks.
      2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 25 July 2022 21: 17
        -2
        Another sectarian of witnesses of the holy nuclear weapons?
  11. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 25 July 2022 14: 41
    0
    Very interesting and true story. I thank the author! But from the extreme situation described by the author, there is a more or less way out: no matter how quickly, surrender.
  12. ksa Offline ksa
    ksa 25 July 2022 16: 40
    0
    Thank you.
    Once again, with regret, I was convinced that it is easy to control my mind with the help of the Russian media. I still believe them.
  13. Sancym Offline Sancym
    Sancym (Alexander ) 25 July 2022 17: 01
    -1
    Sad! So the Ukrainian SSR lived well! People, come to your senses, where are you?
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 July 2022 18: 25
      -2
      91% of Ukrainians voted to leave the USSR in 1991. Is it too late to remember?
      And Ukraine lived really well. Partly at the expense of Russia. But they decided that they themselves with a mustache would catch up and overtake France (yes, those were the dreams at that time).
  14. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 25 July 2022 18: 39
    +1
    In Ukraine, the East is at war with the West - this is a civil war. NWO is already a war of the Russian Federation. All sides will lure citizens to war. The Russian Federation is still swinging and has not adopted a plan on how to fight, what resources to use. The Russian Federation is waiting for a fart in the ass.
  15. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 July 2022 19: 06
    0
    Residents of the former Ukraine should have a good sip dashing.
    Europeans must feel that not the whole world revolves around their Wishlist.
    Residents of Europe should be tired of living with the problems of the former Ukraine.
    As the saying goes, “It is better to be patient for an hour than to persuade all night.”

    So if you think strategically, then there is nowhere to rush.
    The inhabitants of the former Ukraine and the inhabitants of Europe must mature.
    The time for persuasion, persuasion and bribery is over. Very soon both of them will agree to our terms.
    Moreover, they will be persuaded to fulfill our conditions. Because the next version of our conditions will be much worse.
  16. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 26 July 2022 07: 10
    0
    It's all great and all commentators also relish Ukraine's losses. But no one mentions Russian losses. And they are at least the same. At least, because any textbook will tell you that the advancing side suffers 3-4 times more losses. Even if one takes with irony the statements of Ukrainian sources about the destruction of 5 out of 10 available Russian armies, the losses are monstrous anyway.
  17. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 26 July 2022 09: 47
    -2
    The author, of course, collected gossip Ukrainian full bloomers. Mostly bullshit, of course, but how can one understand that nothing is clear and he doesn’t know anything, like the rest, by the way. Well, no one cares. Soon all the bazaars of Ukraine will be flooded with legless Bandera cripples and other battered ukrobydl, who decided to make war with the Russians. Did you fight with the s.ki? Enough! Jump higher! And when they start counting the rotten ukrobandits in the woods and pits, their families will start howling because Ukraine has simply forgotten them and will never remember them. Shut up and fuck them. This is Ukraine, so according to this author, it turns out. And where will the children of the Ukronazis go? In Poland or in the EU to deal with a prostitute? Will they take it? There, their mothers have already taken all the places. There are no seats. Again, Russia to educate these scum, so that later again - a Muscovite to a Gilyak? No, let the bad people die. There is no forgiveness for them and no pity for them.
  18. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 26 July 2022 10: 56
    -2
    Quote: syndicalist
    But no one mentions Russian losses. And they are at least the same. At least, because any textbook will tell you that the advancing side suffers 3-4 times more losses.

    Another reader of any textbooks. You still tell us about the strength of the cavalry attack. Or about the benefits of the phalanx. Lavrov said well about such people.
    1. Victor 17 Offline Victor 17
      Victor 17 31 July 2022 20: 11
      0
      respected soothsayer For your information, the khimars are hitting not only bridges but also clusters of allied forces, and one of the Stakhanov examples is very successful, so convincing yourself that the losses are insignificant is stupid, very significant
  19. boris epstein Offline boris epstein
    boris epstein (Boris) 26 July 2022 13: 57
    0
    On the mobilization of women. Signalers and doctors were also liable for military service in Soviet times. But at the place of work in civilian life. And in wartime they were drafted into the army. Now in the Verkhovna Zrada there is an idea to mobilize former Afghans who are under 60 years old, regardless of their marital status.