It is possible to eliminate the nuclear missile threat from Ukraine only on the Polish border


Against the backdrop of frankly "comprador" speeches by a number of representatives of the Russian power "elites" regarding the prospects for a special military operation in Ukraine, yesterday's statement by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was very pleasing. According to him, now the Russian Ministry of Defense will be directly tasked with steadily pushing back the line of contact with the Armed Forces of Ukraine more and more west and west. What has changed?


Recall that in an interview with Margarita Simonyan, the head of Russian diplomacy said that the situation in Ukraine has fundamentally changed after Kyiv received HIMARS MLRS with missiles with a range of up to 300 kilometers from the United States:

When there was a meeting of negotiators in Istanbul, there was one geography, and our readiness to accept the Ukrainian proposal was based on that geography, on the geography of the end of March 2022… Now the geography is different. This is far from being only the DPR and LPR, it is also the Kherson region, the Zaporozhye region and a number of other territories, and this process continues, and continues consistently and persistently.

What follows from all this? Sergey Lavrov explicitly confirmed that the Kremlin was really ready to be content with a tit in its hands - the recognition of the independence of the DPR and LPR, the Crimea - Russian de jure, and the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov (the “Southern Corridor”, as the High Sides cynically call it) - Russian de facto. How would it all end, we read more told earlier: the division of Ukraine according to the Indo-Pakistani scenario, the receipt by Kyiv of the most modern and powerful offensive weapons, including nuclear weapons, as well as the endless armed conflict with Russia with the involvement of the NATO bloc in it after 2025.

Even now, American missiles can hit the Crimean bridge directly from the urban development of Zaporozhye and Sevastopol from Nikolaev, since their flight range allows it, and military experts from the Pentagon will help with target designation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But in fact, this is half the trouble. The threat posed to Russia by Ukraine is catastrophically underestimated.

At first, five months of fighting showed that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are able to fight and quite effectively resist the Russian army. Yes, the RF Armed Forces are superior to them in terms of the combined power of offensive weapons and have operational air supremacy, which can only be compensated by defense tactics in fort cities. But what will happen when the Armed Forces of Ukraine also receive modern aviation, anti-aircraft missile and operational-tactical systems in sufficient quantities?

The Ukrainian army is several times larger than the ground forces of the RF Armed Forces involved in the special operation. If the SVO is suspended, the enemy will have the opportunity to rearm and retrain, create new lines of fortifications in southern, central and western Ukraine, form a powerful shock fist in a direction convenient for him, as already happened in the period from 2014 to February 24, 2022 . Russia will have to constantly keep a huge grouping ready to stop a large-scale offensive, which the RF Ministry of Defense will not be able to count on when performing other tasks. That is, all of our most combat-ready forces will be continuously shackled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Secondly, the story of the HIMARS MLRS is only flowers, and the berries are yet to come. Do you remember how much we made fun of the Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles? "Moscow", they say, only a couple was enough. The Ukrainian anti-ship missile was created on the basis of the Soviet X-35, however, apparently, it is also stuffed with American technology. In 2018, Ukrainian reserve lieutenant general Igor Romanenko said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would soon have weapons capable of hitting even Moscow and St. Petersburg:

This refers primarily to rocket weapons. Of the developments that we have, we can name "Harpoon" and "Thunder-2", although their range is still not enough. And the range should be several thousand kilometers so that we can cover, for example, the European part of the Russian Federation with these weapons.


At the same time, he inadvertently mentioned, calling the "Neptune" "Harpoon", which is no coincidence, because the Ukrainian anti-ship missile clearly uses some of the technical solutions of the American RGM-84 "Harpoon" (Harpoon). This is very disturbing. The fact is that Kyiv has long been leading a program to create long-range weapons, hiding behind cooperation with other countries.

For example, the aforementioned Romanenko OTRK "Thunder-2". This is an operational-tactical complex based on a solid-propellant ballistic missile, developed by Yuzhmash by order of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Riyadh needed a mobile missile system that could hit targets at a distance of 50 to 300 kilometers. However, for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a version of the OTRK was developed, which could hit a distance of 650-700 kilometers. This would allow Ukrainian troops to strike the Russian capital with a guarantee from mobile complexes equipped with two ballistic missiles. If we reduce the weight of the warhead, the range of the missile will increase to 1000 kilometers.

Alas, this is not all of our potential problems. Ukraine also developed its analogue of the American Tomahawk - the Korshun-2 cruise missile. It was created on the basis of the Soviet X-55 rocket and is equipped with a MS400 bypass turbojet engine manufactured by Motor Sich, built on the basis of the R95-300 turbofan engine. The flight speed of the Korshun-2 is subsonic, the weight of the warhead is 480 kilograms, it will be able to fly at an ultra-low altitude of up to 50 meters, skirting the terrain. The Ukrainian "Tomahawk" will be able to be based both on ground complexes and on sea carriers. It also provides for the possibility of installing a rocket without a container on pylons under the aircraft.
The initially declared flight range of the Korshun-2 is 280 kilometers, but there is a technical possibility to bring it up to 1500-2000 kilometers. And this can change a lot, especially if the warhead of the rocket is special.

Thirdly, it should be borne in mind that Ukraine is a sub-threshold country, located just one step away from obtaining nuclear weapons. Kyiv has been talking about the restoration of its nuclear arsenal for a long time, preparatory work in this direction began in 1994, and since 2014 they have moved into the practical stage. The National Scientific Center "Kharkiv Institute of Physics and Technology" (NSC KIPT), the Institute for Nuclear Research and the Institute of Organic Chemistry, the Institute for Safety Problems of Nuclear Power Plants in Chernobyl, the State Scientific and Technical Center for Nuclear and Radiation Safety in Kyiv and the Institute for Physics of Condensed Systems in Lvov. According to the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation, developments to create a nuclear explosive device (NED) were carried out in Ukraine "both in uranium and plutonium areas."

In early March, the TASS agency, citing its own informed source reportedthat the most active assistance in the creation of the Ukrainian nuclear arsenal to Kyiv was provided by the United States:

To accelerate this R&D, plutonium of the required quality was obtained from abroad at the initial stage. According to available information, the United States has already transferred this material to its partners. There is reason to believe that in the “Ukrainian case” it was not without the participation of Washington.


What do we have in the dry residue?

With active technological assistance from the United States and Great Britain, Ukraine can quickly acquire both nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles, which will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to shoot through Russian territory to the Urals. American MLRS HIMARS with their missile range of 300 kilometers after that will seem like flowers. It is not surprising that the “power tower” of the Kremlin finally decided to push back the “collective Medinsky” and take control of the special operation into their own hands, setting the task of pushing the line of contact further and further west.

It remains to be hoped that the instinct of self-preservation of the Russian power "elite" will be stronger than the craving for a bun at the Vienna Opera and a water bus in London.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 July 2022 12: 04
    +4
    In general, to capture everything, and the "craving for a bun at the Vienna Opera and a water bus in London" from the "Russian power" elite "will not go anywhere, just as long as relatives will ride trams with buns without "daddies". (did not meet news that the elite massively returned relatives and money to Russia)
    1. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
      Gennady1959 (Gennady) 21 July 2022 17: 18
      +7
      Why all sorts of scum: - Chubais, Medynsky, Manturovs, Siluyanovs, Zurabovs, one and a half men, Rotenbergs, etc. (thieves and corrupt officials) are the closest employees of the GDP? Who is this GDP if he picked up such a team of traitors? What goals does GDP set in Ukraine, why are Russian guys dying? Squeeze out the business and markets of Ukraine?
      1. skeptic Offline skeptic
        skeptic 22 July 2022 12: 23
        -1
        Quote: GENNADY1959
        (thieves and corrupt officials) are the closest employees of the GDP? Who is this GDP if he picked up such a team of traitors? What goals does GDP set in Ukraine, why are Russian guys dying?

        If you look at the extremely selective tactics of hitting objects in Ukraine, then it begs an extremely unpleasant association. What does the West need? For example - to neutralize a potential protest contingent of Slavs and clean up their territories. In this massacre, the most patriotic forces of Russia and Ukraine are destroyed, the military potential is neutralized. No one is really engaged in import substitution (with rare exceptions and in rare industries) - all hope is for combustible, "parallel imports". Nobody touches facilities in Ukraine capable of "recreating nuclear weapons." In fact, the Amerskoye will simply be transferred. After several nuclear strikes, the thieves' godfather, in power, will make another "gesture of good will" and declare Russia a nuclear-free zone, with the surrender of all nuclear weapons - "In the name of peace on the whole earth." Without bringing the population "to the point", with the loss of patriotic potential, with the destruction of the economy and "inevitable defeat against the entire West", it would be impossible to surrender the country.
        How I would like to be wrong, but if we consider the actions of the Russian authorities (their restrictions with a bunch of smoke), then the screech of the Ukrainian zombies and the West about their future victory is involuntarily explained. This is precisely what explains the extremely cautious behavior of other countries.
        Especially if you look at some propagandists discussing the "farting" of elderly representatives of another state, then this does not cause a surge of patriotism, but an elementary feeling of abomination and rejection from the official line of the CT and those who finance it.
  2. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 21 July 2022 12: 54
    0
    What do we have in the dry residue?

    In the bottom line, the author has another attempt to tell how “terrible Ukraine is” and what, like, ... ... (censorship) are leading Russia.
    Not tired of sketching yet?

    Especially in this passage:

    With active technological assistance from the United States and Great Britain, Ukraine can quickly acquire both nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles, which will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to shoot through Russian territory to the Urals.

    Author!
    Ukraine will "shoot through Russia" to the Urals?! Hmm... Any strike on Russia with a nuclear charge is the end of the history of mankind on planet Earth.
  3. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 21 July 2022 12: 59
    +1
    The only question is: where will the NEW border between Russia and Poland, that is, NATO, pass through the territory “outside Ukraine”.
  4. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 July 2022 13: 37
    +8
    The author is right, any decision other than the elimination of the outskirts is a postponed war, but a new war cannot be compared in terms of bloodshed with NWO. Here, some again roll a barrel at the author, I advise them to re-read what the author wrote about the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine before the SVO, by the way, the Kremlin also wanted to throw hats on ukrov, but as in 2014 it didn’t work out, and in the future it won’t work out like in 2022
  5. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 21 July 2022 13: 38
    +1
    For the real possession of nuclear weapons, Ukraine will definitely have to test this nuclear weapons, moreover, both warheads and carriers. When these tests begin, it will undoubtedly cause resonance and protests in Western Europe, even the American roof will not help here. Ukraine will definitely say goodbye to membership in the EEC.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 21 July 2022 13: 47
      +2
      A dirty bomb does not need to be tested.
      And Russia is better off taking care of Musk's satellites. At least create a "private" firm to launch satellite killers. Then, in the event of a scandal, everything can be attributed to a dispute between business entities. Like, 2 commercial firms...
      1. vik669 Offline vik669
        vik669 (vik669) 21 July 2022 15: 22
        +2
        At least create a "private" company - so what's the problem, there is a free leader Rogozin, and there are more than enough workers in Ukraine!
  6. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 21 July 2022 13: 57
    +7
    It is possible to eliminate the nuclear missile threat from Ukraine only on the Polish border

    This is indisputable and beyond any doubt, the main thing is that it is understood by all kinds of skeptics who still harbor some kind of ridiculous hopes that it is possible to stop on the Dnieper and conclude peace agreements with the criminal Kyiv regime, more stupidity than this idea is even difficult for oneself and introduce.
  7. Mikhail Novysh Offline Mikhail Novysh
    Mikhail Novysh (Mikhail Novysh) 21 July 2022 14: 08
    -1
    Do not get into technical issues, this is not yours. Comparing "Harpoon" and "Neptune" is already the bottom. At least look at the photo before posting. I am generally silent about the technical characteristics.
  8. Oleg Dmitriev Offline Oleg Dmitriev
    Oleg Dmitriev (Oleg Dmitriev) 21 July 2022 16: 01
    +1
    The last phrase does not inspire optimism ....
  9. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 21 July 2022 17: 03
    +2
    Well, why doesn’t the Russian leadership declare Nazi Zelensky a war criminal and terrorist, the so-called. The Armed Forces of Ukraine - a terrorist gang, and the so-called. Ukraine-terrorist country?? With all the consequences..Hello, Putin?!
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 July 2022 17: 28
      +5
      The answer is obvious, because the Kremlin still cherishes the hope of reaching an agreement and thereby leaving all the problems to the next generation, they have already attached their own children, but they don’t feel sorry for strangers
    2. Lev Rudey Offline Lev Rudey
      Lev Rudey (Lev Rudey) 22 July 2022 05: 34
      0
      Raven crow ....
  10. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 21 July 2022 18: 25
    -3
    Remember how much we made fun of the Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles? "Moscow", they say, only a couple was enough.

    Author!

    And who "with you" made fun of the Neptune rocket?
    And where are the appropriate quotes with "amusements"?
    This is, firstly…

    Secondly, if you are being smart about "Moscow", then you need to specify which one: the capital of Russia or a cruiser?

    Thirdly, there are no official confirmations, and even with public awards of "recovering heroes", "shooting" and hitting the cruiser "Moscow" with two missiles - no.
    Why so?

    Fourthly, the analysis by some SPECIALISTS of the nature of external damage on board the cruiser after the detonation of the BC and the fire, according to the photographs posted in the public domain, casts doubt on the fact of the “arrival” of missiles on board as the MAIN cause of the fire itself and the detonation of the BC, which led to the loss of the cruiser "Moscow".
    Study.

    So: "... they say that chickens are milked ...".
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 21 July 2022 22: 39
      +2
      Fourthly, the analysis by some SPECIALISTS of the nature of external damage on board the cruiser after the detonation of the BC and the fire, according to the photographs posted in the public domain, casts doubt on the fact of the “arrival” of missiles on board as the MAIN cause of the fire itself and the detonation of the BC, which led to the loss of the cruiser "Moscow".

      Yeah, by God ... "Kursk" will not let you lie .... "She drowned" ...
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  11. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 21 July 2022 19: 08
    +1
    if the crazy US Zionists completely lose touch with reality (on the basis of transgender rights), they can persuade the Poles, Germans and Balts to launch a nuclear strike. and then they will do
    kind of "and us for sho?". ... "we have lost control over our nuclear weapons, we are not to blame", it's like living with a psychotic recidivist in the same house (planet). he can watch and hit with a hammer, for example, not realizing that he can be killed in response.
  12. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 21 July 2022 20: 43
    -4
    It should be borne in mind that Ukraine is a sub-threshold country, located just one step away from obtaining nuclear weapons.

    Hmm ...
    The “threshold” country is a “new” word in “analytical” journalism.
    Does the author also have analogues of “threshold”, “overthreshold” or “non-threshold” countries?
    1. Degrin Offline Degrin
      Degrin (Alexander) 22 July 2022 09: 01
      +2
      Citizen Ukrainian bot, go from here
  13. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 21 July 2022 20: 51
    -3
    The Ukrainian army is several times larger than the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces... ... will be able to form a powerful shock fist in a direction convenient for itself, as it already happened in the period from 2014 to February 24, 2022.

    Author!

    And what exactly happened to the “powerful fist of the Armed Forces” from 2014 to 2022, and in what direction? And most importantly - what were the results of this "fist" for the announced period of time?

    As the classic once said: “And then Ostap suffered…”
    1. Degrin Offline Degrin
      Degrin (Alexander) 22 July 2022 09: 00
      +1
      Another sofa general
  14. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 21 July 2022 21: 38
    +4
    Ukraine as a state must disappear. No other way.
  15. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 21 July 2022 21: 42
    +3
    the author is right, you need to go to the Polish border
  16. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 22 July 2022 03: 54
    +4
    Sergey, do they read your articles there? Do they really not understand that the NWO needs to be accelerated? We need resources. It's time.
  17. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 22 July 2022 05: 09
    +2
    What actually happened to the cruiser is still classified as secret. Everything that our and their media write is classified as OBS. If it was a missile attack (so successful), why isn’t it repeated? There are more than enough goals. This is just a question offhand. Why did they take care of the protection of the bridge (to the fullest) only with the supply of himars? One more question. In general, comrade author in his role is terrifying. This was understood by everyone who was at least somewhat in the subject and understood the essence of the issue. The question before our leadership was different, how long the reserves would last. Hence the initial plans for the war. During the fighting, it turned out that there were enough resources and NATO was far Not only did it declare itself. Plans were corrected, or rather, the original one came into force. Himarsy, etc., only an informational reason. No one will give Ukraine nuclear weapons and will not create them. I mind you The United States will immediately abandon all the little mongrels. A clear indicator that this will be the case, there were events with the Koreas. As soon as Eun declared, “We will drown all your AUGs with one blow,” and Trump surrendered, announcing a diplomatic victory. The whole point of prolonging the war in Ukraine comes down to this , in order to distract Russia from the upcoming showdown between the United States and China. And here is the most interesting thing, when? If the Yankees have no chance in land wars, they have not won a single war on their own, then they have the strongest fleet at sea. The intrigue remains. Active hostilities in Ukraine, according to my estimates, will end in late October, early November. I think that in the fall a military junta will form and remove the American puppet Ze & K °. Therefore, Zedurok and his sing-alongs constantly broadcast that they will win everything back by winter. You don't have to be responsible for the market.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 July 2022 12: 06
      +2
      (Shinobi) The basic outline is almost correct, but it needs to be emphasized that the hybrid attack on the RF will be taken to the point of destroying the RF, or at least to the extent of weakening it. What is the universal unbridled Russophobia in the world worth, equating Russians to the brutal killers of civilians, subhumans, who should be destroyed in the literal sense ... Such views have been formed among the majority of citizens of many countries. This is in all the media of states on which the United States has influence, this is the majority in Europe, North America and other countries .. This is already a war for the direct destruction of Russia and Russians, and you need to respond in accordance with this deadly threat. Why is this not perceived by the government of the Russian Federation and reciprocal strategic steps - many questions. The use of Ukraine as an instrument of military attrition and debilitation of the Russian Federation is another example of an uncompromising war against Russia. I’m not talking about sanctions for the economic strangulation of the Russian Federation ...
      1. shinobi Offline shinobi
        shinobi (Yuri) 23 July 2022 05: 40
        0
        Once in a hundred years, the West gathers in a crowd and goes to war with Russia. To get a lyuley, once again, it will calm down for another hundred years. -People's observation.
  18. Degrin Offline Degrin
    Degrin (Alexander) 22 July 2022 08: 59
    -1
    It follows from this that one should not feel sorry for the ex-Ukrainian SSR
  19. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
    Spasatel 22 July 2022 20: 47
    +2
    It remains to be hoped that the instinct of self-preservation of the Russian power "elite" will be stronger

    No one doubts this, dear author!
    The only question is: where will this instinct lead?
    And here, author, according to your own expression, "the craving for a bun at the Vienna Opera and a water bus in London" will overpower everything !!
    Or have you already doubted it?
  20. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 26 July 2022 11: 21
    +1
    Ukraine should have been liberated in 14, and not to play as partners for President Putin. And now he calls them partners again. What's the point if the same people in the government are still there. Why should ordinary people expect. But only our children are dying and fighting in Ukraine. Trade is in full swing, war is war, and money is on schedule. so that it would be worse for them than for us. Only Moscow and St. Petersburg live, the rest of the outback exists. I don’t want to describe our situation in this form, I’m for the NVO, but the facts are there. I’m not a military strategist, but I think that fighting in one fortified area is a mistake .Operation near Kyiv is direct evidence. To fight in white gloves and according to chivalric laws is a betrayal of your soldiers. I would very much like to know what kind of deal our Foreign Ministry officials did near Kyiv? After all, all the bastard was washed away from Kiev. The enemy received our weapons, we don’t know, some heaped mines of only different types, this accidentally slips in the reports.