Why Russia already needs to prepare for a naval war with Japan

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Today, all our attention is drawn to the fierce battles on the territory of Ukraine, in which a significant part of the ground forces of the RF Armed Forces is involved in one way or another. Also of great concern are the obvious attempts by some of our "Western partners" to draw Russia into a direct armed conflict with the NATO bloc due to a partial blockade of the Kaliningrad region. But right now, a military threat of no lesser magnitude is brewing on the Eastern Front.

Kuril issue


We are talking, of course, about Japan, the turning point in relations with which is the Kuril Islands. Despite the fact that they became part of the USSR, and then the Russian Federation following the results of World War II, and their legal status is enshrined in relevant international agreements, Tokyo still considers them to be its “northern territories” and demands to be returned. In Russia, this topic was periodically raised, but always stumbled over the categorical rejection of the absolute majority of the population.



The last time President Putin made a number of promising statements on this subject, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was so enthusiastic that he even graciously promised not to evict the Russian "gaijin" from the Kuril Islands, clearly believing that he already had them in his pocket. It didn't grow. The reaction of the Russians to the issue of concluding a peace treaty with Japan at the cost of the Kuril Islands was so negative that the Kremlin quickly curtailed all public discussions on this matter. In the course of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in 2020, provisions were introduced prohibiting the exclusion of the territories of the Russian Federation, and the criminal law now has a serious responsibility for the corresponding appeals.

It would seem that everything, the issue is finally closed, but, alas, this is not entirely true. Having lost the fundamental opportunity to solve the problem peacefully, the Japanese faced a dilemma: accept and forget about the "northern territories" or return them, but not by peaceful means. And the international situation, unfortunately, more and more favors this.

After the start of a special military operation, Russia turned out to be a rogue country for the “Western world”, surrounded by a colossal amount of economic sanctions. Almost all the ground forces of the RF Armed Forces are now engaged on the Western Front, waging heavy and bloody battles in Ukraine. When and how it will all end is unknown. Ahead clearly looms the prospect of an armed conflict with the countries - members of the NATO bloc from Eastern Europe. At the same time, the conditional "Eastern Front" is significantly weakened. The flagship of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation, the Varyag missile cruiser (a fellow project of the Moscow that died in the Black Sea), is now in the Mediterranean Sea together with the Admiral Tributs BOD, stopping the potential threat from the aircraft carrier strike formation of the NATO bloc. At the same time, tensions are gradually growing there, in the Far East, which was personally confirmed by the press secretary of President Putin Dmitry Peskov:

Japan takes a hostile position towards our country. But against the background of the frenzied mainstream, there are also attempts to soberly assess what is happening.

Attempts are the private opinion of individual Japanese parliamentarians. The mainstream of Japanese society is Russophobia and militarization, against which revanchist sentiments are only growing.

Time for a rematch?


Indeed, while Russia is bogged down in Ukraine and may be drawn into a conflict with the North Atlantic Alliance in the Baltics, this will be the most convenient time for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces to blockade the Kuril Islands and land on them. Moscow will then have no other argument than the use of nuclear weapons, but will a missile attack on Tokyo really be launched? We have been at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine for almost four months now, Russian territory is regularly shelled, "Western partners" are calmly supplying Ukraine with fuel and weapons, and so far neither Kyiv, nor London, nor Washington have "glazed" anything. The reality is that nowadays everyone prefers to fight without an official declaration of war at all, by conventional means, with obvious elements of a behind-the-scenes "agreement". Nobody wants to go to heaven ahead of schedule, which means that nuclear weapons are the most extreme option, by no means the first on the list for use.

Building long-term forecasts today, when every day something happens and everything is changing rapidly, is a thankless task. However, one can still try to imagine under what conditions Japan can decide on the "Anschluss" of the Kuril Islands. The unfortunate truth is that Tokyo has the ability to pull off something similar right now.

Yes, alas, but Japan has a significant military advantage over Russia in this potential theater of operations. Aviation "samurai", base and deck, will dominate the air in the area of ​​the Kuril Islands. At sea, the superiority of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force looks even more impressive: four helicopter carriers, two of which are currently being converted into light aircraft carriers capable of carrying American fifth-generation F-35B fighters, 10 URO destroyers, 28 multi-purpose destroyers, 8 frigates, 24 diesel electric submarines, as well as numerous modern anti-submarine aircraft. All this can quickly crush the few age-old surface ships and submarines of the Pacific Fleet, which has been “forgotten” for many years. The strengthening of the KTOF in Russia has begun only recently, but, to put it mildly, it is too late. The balance of forces is too unequal, the pace of building new warships is unacceptably long.

How much time do we presumably have left to prepare for war with Japan if the conflict on the Western Front becomes protracted?

Without claiming to be the ultimate truth, one can put forward the hypothesis that Tokyo will be fully ready when Russia weakens under the yoke of economic sanctions, suffers heavy losses in the war on the territory of Ukraine, and the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces will receive a combat-ready aircraft carrier strike force due to re-equipment their helicopter carriers. Just recently, the Japanese undertook to turn its sistership Kaga into a light aircraft carrier after the Izumo. The modernization will take place in two stages, the completion of the second is expected by 2027. 5 years is exactly the period when either Russia will win a convincing victory over the collective West, or the comprador "elites" will finally drive it into a historical dead end with their "agreements".

Suppose that we have these 5 years until the moment when Japan nevertheless decides to try to take the Kuriles by force. What can be done here and now to avoid similar problems in the near future?

As we have established empirically, even the presence of nuclear weapons, strategic and tactical, does not eliminate the need to be able to fight by conventional means, on land and at sea. Alas, Russia is in trouble with the navy, and this is especially felt in the Pacific Ocean, which worried military experts have been trumpeting for a long time. Something needs to be decided, but the objective reality is that one desire is not enough for warships to appear out of nowhere in sufficient numbers. The only way to get them quickly is to order construction in China, which we will discuss in detail told earlier.

After analyzing the layouts and reviews of military experts, we can conclude that it is vital for Russia to order a large series of patrol ships of the near and far sea zone. For BMZ, these should be PLO Type-056A corvettes in the amount of at least 20-25 units, for DMZ - Type-054A / P frigates, at least 10-15 units. China will be able to build them for export really quickly to meet the requirements of Russian customers. Thanks to the purchase of Chinese-made corvettes and frigates, the Pacific and other fleets of the Russian Federation will be able to radically increase the number of surface personnel in just 3-5 years, reliably cover the near and far sea zones. Russian shipyards should then focus on building project 8000M frigates with a displacement of up to 22350 tons, which will be our first modern destroyers.

It also makes sense to think about ordering China to build an export version of the Type-075 amphibious assault ships. They occupy an intermediate position between the French "Mistrals" and the American "Americas". With a full displacement of 40 tons, these UDCs are capable of transporting up to 000 marines, armored vehicles for landing, and also carrying an impressive air wing of 900-28 helicopters, anti-submarine, AWACS or strike helicopters on deck. We may be interested in the fact that in China the production of ships of this class has already been mastered and is being carried out at a rapid pace. So, the lead ship of the Type-30 Hainan series was laid down in 075-2018 (it is not known exactly), it was launched already in 2019, and in 2020 it became part of the PLA Navy. There are already two Chinese UDCs in service, the third is under construction.

The pace is impressive and compares favorably with how long the construction of two Russian project 22390 UDCs can take. Recall that they were laid down at the Zaliv plant in 2020, now it’s the middle of 2022, but so far there is not even a photo of the keel on the slipway. The Russian Navy will probably be able to actually get them only by the end of the decade. Perhaps it is worth ordering a Russified version of the Type-075 for the needs of the Pacific Fleet also at Chinese shipyards. The ability to deploy up to 900 marines and carry up to 30 anti-submarine or attack helicopters will significantly increase the military potential of the KTOF in the confrontation with the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces.

Well, or you can do nothing, let everything take its course, and meet the war on the "Eastern Front" without a combat-ready fleet and with unfinished ships.
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  1. +2
    24 June 2022 13: 27
    The unfortunate truth is that Tokyo has the ability to pull off something similar right now.
    Suppose that we have these 5 years until the moment when Japan nevertheless decides to try to take the Kuriles by force. What can be done here and now to avoid similar problems in the near future?

    And if the Japanese decide to capture the Kuriles this autumn? What measures should be taken in this case? Or what reasons do the Japanese have for not attacking our country right now, before the end of this year?
    1. +2
      24 June 2022 13: 35
      Quote from qtfreet
      And if the Japanese decide to capture the Kuriles this autumn? What measures should be taken in this case? Or what reasons do the Japanese have for not attacking our country right now, before the end of this year?

      They can. But Russia has not yet weakened so much, internal political stability is preserved. A direct conflict with NATO has not yet begun.
      But if a war starts on several fronts at once ... Only the use of nuclear weapons.
      1. 0
        24 June 2022 13: 47
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        But Russia has not yet weakened so much, internal political stability is preserved.

        That is, if, for example, during this year the Japanese attack the Kuriles (arbitrarily, suddenly for everyone and even for the collective West) - will there be a "Pyrrhic victory"? When will the losses that the Japanese incur for such an operation become unjustified?

        Quote: Marzhetsky
        But if a war starts on several fronts at once ... Only the use of nuclear weapons.

        Let's say the Japanese will start an invasion of the Kuril Islands exactly at the time of the completion of the capture of Odessa or Nikolaev. In the midst of the 3rd stage of the NWO. At the same time, they will arrange a naval blockade of Vladivostok.
        1. -2
          24 June 2022 14: 03
          That is, if, for example, during this year the Japanese attack the Kuriles (arbitrarily, suddenly for everyone and even for the collective West) - will there be a "Pyrrhic victory"?

          Such a solution is possible only at the suggestion of the United States and under their wing.

          When will the losses that the Japanese incur for such an operation become unjustified?

          And how do you see the Japanese special operation to return the northern territories and Russia's response? Specifically? How exactly do you assess Japanese losses?
          Tell me, what is happening now in Ukraine and in the Russian border area has taught you nothing at all?

          Let's say the Japanese will start an invasion of the Kuril Islands exactly at the time of the completion of the capture of Odessa or Nikolaev. In the midst of the 3rd stage of the NWO. At the same time, they will arrange a naval blockade of Vladivostok.

          I do not think that the Japanese special operation will be dated for Odessa. Rather, in parallel with the conflict with NATO in the Baltics or later. I even suggested some dates.
  2. +1
    24 June 2022 13: 49
    under what conditions can Japan decide on the "Anschluss" of the Kuril Islands. The unfortunate truth is that Tokyo has the ability to pull off something like this right now.

    Even if the Japanese can land troops on the islands, Russia could start bombing Tokyo and other industrial cities in Japan with even non-nuclear weapons. And it will bomb until Japan removes the landing force and pays the damage suffered by Russia. If the Japanese hit mainland Russia with missiles, then there is a direct path to "vigorous bombing." Repeat, so to speak, the event of the Americans in 1945. Maybe then the Japanese will become friends with Russia, as they are now friends with the United States?
    1. +1
      24 June 2022 14: 06
      Even if the Japanese can land troops on the islands, Russia could start bombing Tokyo and other industrial cities in Japan with even non-nuclear weapons. And it will bomb until Japan removes the landing force and pays the damage suffered by Russia.

      It works both ways.

      If the Japanese hit mainland Russia with missiles, then a direct path to "vigorous bonba". To repeat, so to speak, the action of the Americans in 1945.

      By the way, we don’t even hit Kyiv with rockets, although the Armed Forces of Ukraine openly h..chat on our border and torture our prisoners of war. And for some reason, our rockets do not fly towards London.
      1. 0
        25 June 2022 13: 55
        You are confusing the two in vain. Ukraine is part of the USSR, so the Russian Federation behaves the way it does. Japan, this is a different case and there will be much fewer deterrents. In addition, it is not necessary to hit Tokyo, it is easier to hit ports, LNG terminals, oil terminals. Japan is small and completely dependent on resource exports.
    2. -1
      26 June 2022 10: 17
      And with what to bomb, with Caliber missiles. Air defense of Japan is not Ukrainian. Aviation Kyiv cannot bomb. They are not tired of throwing hats
  3. +2
    24 June 2022 13: 50
    It is not entirely clear why you need to "play sea battle"? Modern weapons make it possible to get Japan from the mainland or from Sakhalin, and these "aircraft carriers" are unsinkable. Do you really think that the Japanese are ready to lose their population (and there, like Donbass, the city ends, a new one begins) for the opportunity to land an assault force that does not solve anything? Do not consider the Japanese to be somewhat unintelligent, they were even careful in 1941 when the Germans were at the walls of Moscow.
    1. -1
      24 June 2022 14: 01
      It is not entirely clear why you need to "play sea battle"? Modern weapons make it possible to get Japan from the mainland or from Sakhalin, and these "aircraft carriers" are unsinkable.

      It works both ways, by the way.

      Do you really think that the Japanese are ready to lose their population (and there, like Donbass, the city ends, a new one begins) for the opportunity to land an assault force that does not solve anything?

      The return of the Kuriles is their national idea now. The decision will be made taking into account the situation in Russia. I believe that in the case of Minsk-3, many negative events will occur in our country. Not the fact that nuclear weapons will be used.
    2. -1
      24 June 2022 14: 21
      It is not entirely clear why you need to "play sea battle"? Modern weapons allow you to get Japan from the mainland or from Sakhalin,

      How many missiles have we already fired at Ukraine? Helped a lot?
      After all, the NWO has already clearly proved that wars cannot be won with precision weapons alone, especially against a highly motivated enemy. We also need a large combat-ready army and the same fleet to come "legs" and occupy the territory and conduct "sea battles".
      Rockets are a good and useful thing, but they are not a panacea.
      1. +4
        24 June 2022 18: 47
        The comparison is somewhat incorrect - we have no claims against Japan and we do not need to secure its islands with infantry. An idea is an idea, but the Japanese people are extremely rational and once they have received the tinsel, they understand everything well. The only success in the confrontation with Russia was in the isolated theater of operations in Port Arthur, and then, the losses were such that the commander-in-chief made a sepuku. A test of the pen at Khasan, Khalkin-Gol and a chord in 1945 in Manchuria discouraged new adventures for a long time. And then there's China hanging not like a child, and Korea has not forgotten the occupation. I think they are not up to us now. And rhetoric is rhetoric, to play on the internal audience for political purposes, one of which is the "external threat" that unites the heterogeneous forces within the country.
        1. -2
          24 June 2022 20: 08
          The comparison is somewhat incorrect - we have no claims against Japan. An idea is an idea, but the Japanese people are extremely rational and once they have received the tinsel, they understand everything well.

          You are simplifying. Get on tinsel - how exactly? Rocket attack on Tokyo? In an overpopulated metropolis? Nuclear strike? Yeah, let's, as all our frank fools "predictors" suggest.
          The Americans will stand behind the Japanese, who, by the way, recognize the Kuriles as Japanese
          https://russian.rt.com/world/article/958885-ssha-yaponiya-rossiya-yuzhnye-kurily

          we don’t need to secure its islands with infantry

          Truth? And how will we fight back our Kuriles if the Japanese land troops there?

          And rhetoric, that's what it is, and rhetoric, to play on the internal audience for political purposes, one of which is the "external threat" that unites the heterogeneous forces within the country.

          Such a strike on Japanese territory will just rally the Japanese even more and demand a response.
          1. +2
            25 June 2022 06: 22
            According to unconfirmed reports, one of the Reporter's authors suggested that North Korea abandon nuclear weapons and invest in the development of the fleet. The answer of the Koreans was NOT translated into Russian. Because some complex and incomprehensible Russian expressions were used.
  4. +1
    24 June 2022 13: 54
    Russia does not need to prepare for a naval war with Japan, you need to aim at the Japs a couple of nuclear missiles! At once they will fill up the slurp, like dudley, when Eun experienced a nuclear bomb!
  5. +3
    24 June 2022 14: 19
    You are asking the wrong question. We need ships, but they don't have to be purchased from China. In the USSR, ships were also built quickly. Effective managers should be removed and specialists should be appointed. The question is, do the authorities need these specialists? A lot can be done in five years. But nothing has been done for 20 years, and even more so for five years. We already have a budget surplus now, so what? What did they start building, in what production did they invest?
  6. -1
    24 June 2022 14: 23
    Quote: steel maker
    You are asking the wrong question. We need ships, but they don't have to be purchased from China. In the USSR, ships were also built quickly. Effective managers should be removed and specialists should be appointed. The question is, do the authorities need these specialists? A lot can be done in five years.

    I understand what you mean, but we have the people in power that we have, and others are not expected. I proceed from the realities, not the desired.
    We can’t build anything quickly now, we don’t have the USSR. We have a whole gigantic lump of problems that need to be sorted out for years, comprehensively.
    1. 0
      24 June 2022 15: 38
      And in this context, there is simply no alternative to nuclear weapons. 20 megatons on Tokyo should bring the Japs to their senses.
      1. 0
        24 June 2022 20: 11
        Understand, the answer will be. Americans recognize the Kuril Islands as Japanese
        https://russian.rt.com/world/article/958885-ssha-yaponiya-rossiya-yuzhnye-kurily
        That is, for them, the blockade and landings are a special operation to return their ancestral territories. And you offer them a vigorous bomb in the metropolis.
    2. +1
      24 June 2022 21: 25
      Marzhetsky: I understand what you mean, but we have the people in power that we have, and others are not expected ... I proceed from realities, not what is desired. We have a whole giant lump of problems that take years to sort out, complex.

      It is absolutely true.
      Someone said:

      There are no hopeless situations - there are situations from which you still do not like the way out.

      Since this government has led the country to a dead end, it will destroy it. This means that only a new government can save the country.
      Next.
      The key to all recent developments is US interest in Russia. This is the "drive belt" of the nascent world war. It means that it is enough to stop him, and all the secondary beneficiaries (including Japan) will give up their plans - after all, these plans are built on the assumption that the States are the "locomotive" of interests and actions. The States themselves will give the command to retreat to their pack.
      Further, the logic is simpler.
      The only non-failing fear that the United States has is the threat of their physical destruction., That is, the threat of nuclear war. One could still doubt this if it were not for this that the USSR "took" the Americans in 1962, forcing them to retreat.
      Yes, the current government does not have those "balls of steel" that the USSR was in power in 1962 (17 years after the victory in the terrible war), but the new government MUST have them "by definition".
      And my last wish: this beneficial change must take place in a constitutional way.
    3. 0
      25 June 2022 13: 03
      Don't build anything fast now

      I took a look at the information. Your proposal, without canceling orders to our fleet, to order China to build ships for us is quite acceptable. Moreover, now we have a budget surplus. Retirees won't get anything anyway.
  7. +3
    24 June 2022 14: 55
    Of course, ships of the near zone are needed. And in large numbers. Attack submarines are also needed. China has them.
    Buying from China is a fairly profitable idea. In 3-4 years, it is possible to increase the Pacific Fleet to a level normal for defense.
    But we should not forget about coastal infrastructure. And the Navy still needs personnel. And on the shore and in the crews.
  8. +2
    24 June 2022 15: 21
    To be honest, it’s already annoying how our country is behaving right now - all these sports competitions and all sorts of nonsense - which takes a lot of resources, instead of mobilizing everything and directing everything to what our army and navy would have everything was done as soon as possible! The situation in the Far East is very serious, and in the West we have a SO, and the government is flirting with the population .... I especially don’t like flirting with the Ukrainian population .... Why are prisoners of war still not working - why are you dragging them from the front at all, if they either return to the front again or sit on our necks? Have you noticed that our people are afraid to use the symbols SO? Imagine, our people in our country are afraid)))) Because it is not clear who was brought into the country under the guise of refugees, and now it remains only to wait, what else will happen, whose car will burn down, where else the gas station will explode ..... All this begins to cause intense annoyance...
  9. 0
    24 June 2022 19: 26
    Why is Russia preparing for a naval war with Japan? To throw huge resources to the wind?
    There will be no naval war between Russia and Japan. At least in the 21st century.
    If it comes to war, then Russia will ship Japan 300-500 Mton. The preparation should be to ensure that at least 300 Mtons reach the islands.
    And those who propose to wage a naval war with Japan are either the Japanese or their hangers-on.
    1. -1
      24 June 2022 20: 13
      If it comes to war, then Russia will ship Japan 300-500 Mton. The preparation should be to ensure that at least 300 Mtons reach the islands.

      Yes, yes, of course.
  10. 0
    24 June 2022 19: 39
    We have been at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine for almost four months now, Russian territory is regularly shelled, "Western partners" are calmly supplying Ukraine with fuel and weapons, and so far neither Kyiv, nor London, nor Washington have "glazed" anything.

    Logic is very bad. Launch a nuclear strike on the US and UK because b. Ukraine shelling Russian villages? Or due to the fact that weapons are supplied?
    Does any of these actions threaten Russian statehood? In my opinion - no.
    But the war with Japan is threatening.
    The author put the shelling of border villages on the same level as the war against Japan.
    That is why he makes such strange conclusions. And even weirder suggestions. However, nothing surprised. Everything as usual.
  11. -3
    24 June 2022 20: 04
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    The author put the shelling of border villages on the same level as the war against Japan.
    That is why he makes such strange conclusions. And even weirder suggestions. However, nothing surprised. Everything as usual.

    Grow up.
    1. 0
      25 June 2022 01: 14
      Smarten up.
  12. 0
    24 June 2022 21: 35
    the topic is not relevant, if Japan tries to attack the Russian Federation, it will receive a response with nuclear weapons ............... and the NWO in Ukraine is proof of the determination of our country, the Japanese nation (if they want to survive), this should be remembered always
    1. +1
      25 June 2022 01: 14
      The Japanese nation has hit hard in every sense.
      And he will never be able to escape from his island captivity.
  13. +2
    24 June 2022 21: 55
    1. If you remove the liberals from the Kremlin and the State Duma, the construction of not only warships, but the entire national economy of Russia will go 4 times faster and more efficiently;
    2. Japan in the current situation risks losing the island of Hokkaido as well;
    3. A nuclear strike will definitely be delivered to Japan. Only here is what country - until question.
    1. +1
      25 June 2022 01: 11
      Or countries? In other words, an integrated approach.

      (Koreans (and not only) quietly smiled at their thoughts)
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  15. +3
    25 June 2022 01: 10
    The article, as usual, whips up hysteria. And nothing more. No analysts, no sober thoughts. Why hysteria?
    Japan will never attack the Kuril Islands. Because from the standpoint of international law, their demands are insignificant and have no basis. Those acts to which the Japanese refer are interesting and important only as museum exhibits. Therefore, everything that is written in Mr. alarmist's article is nonsense. As always. Japan's attack on Russian territory is a war with all the consequences. The use of WMD. And even without him, both the KTOF and the Russian Army are not toothless on their Far Eastern borders. I won't go into detail. But the fact that there is an arsenal of serious military means is true. Of course, there should be more ships and aviation should be strengthened, which is already known. Be that as it may, the Japanese are still probably not as hot as the author of this article and think with their heads. Accordingly, attacks are not planned. In general, the author's concerns are understandable. But the writing style is bad.

    Japan is an interesting country, and honestly, it's a pity that its regression is going slowly but surely. The trend, or rather the selection of Japanese political characters with the help of US neo-Trotskyists, is bearing fruit. Japan has almost forgotten about oil refining, metal production and equipment. Yes, heavy industry still exists, but its collapse is obvious. It is interesting that if earlier they drove Japanese cars in the USA, now they use Korean ones, electronics are Chinese and most Japanese firms have either been destroyed or belong to the same Chinese. Of course, a small war with patriotic goals could stir up the old and mossy Japanese swamp, but the understanding that this will not be a small war and the fear of using nuclear weapons is most likely understood by both the puppets in the government and the majority of the Japanese themselves.
    1. +1
      25 June 2022 05: 21
      Japan's attack on Russian territory is a war with all the consequences. The use of WMD.

      Certain forces create a public opinion that Russia can and should fight only with conventional weapons.
      They say get ready for a naval war with Japan. Like someone has already decided that the war will be only naval, only for the Kuril Islands and only with Japan.
      The layman is frightening the layman by the fact that the use of nuclear weapons by Russia will lead to the death of us all. While silent about the fact that the nuclear ax stops our enemies.
      Japan (NATO, Korea and others) will start a war with Russia in only one case - if there is no devastating strike with nuclear weapons.
      As soon as the Russian authorities become unable to use nuclear weapons, punishment will immediately follow - the disappearance of the country and people.
      Fighting with Japan with conventional weapons means one thing - the loss of the Far East and Siberia. With small casualties in the event of a quick surrender and heavy losses with prolonged resistance by the Russians. The size and quality of the Russian fleet in the Far East does not play any fundamental role.
      1. +1
        25 June 2022 08: 16
        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        Certain forces create a public opinion that Russia can and should fight only with conventional weapons.
        They say get ready for a naval war with Japan. Like someone has already decided that the war will be only naval, only for the Kuril Islands and only with Japan.
        The layman is frightening the layman by the fact that the use of nuclear weapons by Russia will lead to the death of us all. While silent about the fact that the nuclear ax stops our enemies.
        Japan (NATO, Korea and others) will start a war with Russia in only one case - if there is no devastating strike with nuclear weapons.
        As soon as the Russian authorities become unable to use nuclear weapons, punishment will immediately follow - the disappearance of the country and people.
        Fighting with Japan with conventional weapons means one thing - the loss of the Far East and Siberia. With small casualties in the event of a quick surrender and heavy losses with prolonged resistance by the Russians. The size and quality of the Russian fleet in the Far East does not play any fundamental role.

        I support, it is, I subscribe to every word
    2. +1
      25 June 2022 21: 40
      I agree on everything. I will add about the influence of liberal values ​​on Japanese society. Last year I was in this country and I read an article in Japan news, I think, about how slowly the replacement of male leaders with female leaders in Japanese companies is going on. Note, not the weak to the more talented and literate, but just women. As they say, no comment.
  16. +1
    25 June 2022 05: 38
    What else is dangerous enemy propagandists? They inspire the illusion that the Russian armed forces are capable of handling any challenge without using nuclear weapons. Like, you just need to strain your strength, invest in the fleet - and Japan will capitulate. This is a lie. Shameless, arrogant and stupid. Japan has 120 million people and, to put it mildly, not a weak economy and armed forces, including the fleet.
    Theoretically, our army and navy are capable of winning. Only this victory (if it happens) will be pyrrhic. Huge loss of personnel and weapons. After such a war, come South Korea and take the Far East with little or no fight.
    Again, let's ask the question - who benefits from Russia renouncing the use of nuclear weapons?
    1. +1
      25 June 2022 08: 15
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      What else is dangerous enemy propagandists? They inspire the illusion that the Russian armed forces are capable of handling any challenge without using nuclear weapons. Like, you just need to strain your strength, invest in the fleet - and Japan will capitulate. This is a lie. Shameless, arrogant and stupid. Japan has 120 million people and, to put it mildly, not a weak economy and armed forces, including the fleet.
      Theoretically, our army and navy are capable of winning. Only this victory (if it happens) will be pyrrhic. Huge loss of personnel and weapons. After such a war, come South Korea and take the Far East with little or no fight.
      Again, let's ask the question - who benefits from Russia renouncing the use of nuclear weapons?

      subscribe to every word
    2. +1
      28 June 2022 04: 10
      Why weren't they taken away at 41? Don't bother. I will answer myself - all the same. Japan-will not fight with Russia. And he will never be able to attack Russia. Because this is all - the end of the road. For Japan. And without WMD. And propagandists have nothing to do with it.
  17. 0
    25 June 2022 15: 16
    The author separate the flies from the cutlets. Russia does not need the territory of Japan. The Kuriles are islands. 25 km of the Strait of Treason separates Hokkaido (Japan) from the island of Kunashir (Russia), to the east of the island of Shikotan (Russia), to the north of the island of Iturup and why do you need a fleet if the Russian Federation is not going to attack Japan. There are a lot of things in the Kuriles, taking into account the experience of hostilities in Ukraine, it is necessary to strengthen the garrisons in the Kurils, to organize new logistics for supplying the Kurils. Everything. I have been to the Kuriles twice. Ships are needed, especially 1st rank, destroyers, large landing ships, etc.
  18. +2
    25 June 2022 19: 41
    What nonsense. And why does Russia need some kind of naval war with Japan when everything can be solved remotely and very quickly.
  19. -1
    26 June 2022 02: 02
    If you order everything in China, then you can hire the Chinese too.
    There will be narrow-eyed paratroopers, pilots, sailors, and then narrow-eyed Russian folk choirs will appear, EDRA deputies, artists and political scientists ...
    1. 0
      28 June 2022 04: 12
      Yes, yes, all blondes think so.
  20. -3
    26 June 2022 02: 53
    Sergey, as always, is right in his articles.
    1. +1
      28 June 2022 04: 13
      Not really.
  21. +1
    29 June 2022 01: 28
    At the moment, such an event is unlikely. Japan must be sure that we will have nothing to get their territories with. Otherwise, the "processing" of their industrial sectors can lead to a crisis in a number of industries. Yes, and energy resources will have to be asked from the United States, but so far they cannot provide Europe normally.
  22. 0
    4 July 2022 12: 27
    The Japanese are smarter than crests. But it is necessary to prepare for war even with Antarctica.