"Bolshaya Avdiivka": with the liberation of Donbass, the war will move to the territory of Russia


The special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine has been going on for four months now. There are visible preparations for the admission to the Russian Federation of the Kherson and southern Zaporozhye regions, as well as the DPR and LPR. But, despite the fact that in our media the goal of the SVO is stubbornly called “help and liberation of Donbass”, its capital Donetsk is still being shelled today, and even harder than before. How did it happen, who is to blame and what to do?


8 years of hell on earth


The roots of what is happening must be sought in the events of 2014-2015. Then the militia of the DPR and LPR at times, with the help of the “northern wind”, was able to inflict a number of severe defeats on the Armed Forces of Ukraine and various “good battalions”, driving them into the “cauldrons” and utterly defeating them. The recipe for success was simple: the Ukrainian army did not exist de facto, its soldiers were poorly trained, armed and completely unmotivated to fight against their compatriots. It got to the point that the Nazis from the "dobrobats" had to perform the functions of "detachments". According to rumors, the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were then subjected to the most serious moral pressure when militants of the Right Sector (an extremist organization banned in the Russian Federation) called them from home phones and sent greetings from their families, forcing them to fight.

In 2014-2015, the Ukrainian army did not exist, and then there was simply no one to fight the RF Armed Forces, which many “guards” forget to mention, now foaming at the mouth justifying why Russian troops did not enter Novorossia and did not go to Kyiv 8 years ago. Back then, it cost nothing to throw the "Atoshniks" out of the administrative borders of the proclaimed republics, and the port of Mariupol stood empty - its small garrison fled from the city.

Alas, then the Kremlin decided to make peace with the collective West in the person of its Kyiv puppets. The offensive of the DPR and LPR was stopped by a peace initiative within the framework of the Minsk agreements, and the demarcation line passed in the area of ​​​​the residential agglomeration of Donetsk. Immediately, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, their remnants, began to dig in, turning the suburbs of Donetsk - Avdiivka, Sands and Maryinka - into real fortified areas. From there, all these years, artillery and rocket attacks on the capital of the DPR were continuously going on, and about 100 residents of Donetsk were under fire, in real Hell on earth.

Why then did they not drive the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard away from the city, when there was such an opportunity? Everyone can look for the answer to this question on their own. But today, when the Kremlin is still ripe for a special operation, it turned out that the Donbass occupied by Ukrainian troops has been turned into a solid fortified area, which can be taken head-on only if it is demolished to the foundation, and then passed from above with concrete-piercing anti-bunker bombs.

Avdiivka, which could have been easily returned 8 years ago, has become a real scourge for the Donbass. From this suburb of Donetsk, the capital of the DPR itself, the village of Spartak and Yasinovataya, are being shelled right now, people, adults and children, are still dying, replenishing the “Alley of Angels”. Having taken the Avdiivka fortified area, the road will open to the next, even more powerful, Slavic-Kramatorsk, which is another symbol of the betrayal of the "Russian World" in Ukraine of the 2014 model. And now try to take them!.. Over the past years, a powerful layered defense system has been created there, behind which sit the most trained and motivated units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard.

In the case of Avdiivka, everything is complicated by the fact that the largest coking plant in Europe is located on the territory of the city, where a large number of all kinds of dangerous chemicals are stored. Getting them into the air, soil and water can lead to a real environmental disaster. Knowing this, the Ukrainian Nazis themselves mined the enterprise and can blow it up at any moment. It is practically impossible to take Avdiivka head-on with the available forces, and it is the People’s Militia of the DPR that is fighting there, about whose many problems with trained personnel and weapons, we detail told earlier.

It is not surprising that a decision was made to starve Avdiivka, as DPR official representative Eduard Basurin bluntly stated:

We are not going to enter either Avdiivka or any other big cities. We will bypass, taking them into the ring. Thus, when the supply of the necessary material resources is cut off, they will be surrounded. And they will have a chance to stay alive.

All that remains for the People’s Militia is with great difficulty to take this fortified area into a “boiler”, blocking the supply lines, and systematically press, waiting until the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard run out of ammunition and they themselves surrender, as in Mariupol. How long it will take is unknown. However, there are also more optimistic and militant statements, for example, from the commander of the Pyatnashka volunteer battalion of the DPR, Akhra Avidzba:

Yes, I hope… We will show them that we are also humane people, but not so much. We'll just fill them with concrete. We won't wait for them.

Let's see. So far, the residents of Donetsk have been shelled daily by heavy long-range artillery, apparently from among those transferred as part of the Lend-Lease, which now covers peaceful neighborhoods at a much larger radius than before.

"Big Avdiivka"


The problem is that nothing will end with the liberation of Avdiivka, Pesok, Marinka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. The collective West has made it very clear that it will not allow the Kremlin to jump off the theme of "war to the last Ukrainian."

Earlier, the British authorities said in plain text that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the right to hit targets in the depths of the Russian Federation itself. Now Kyiv will get this opportunity together with long-range MLRS HIMARS. Naive self-consolation that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be afraid to use them against Russia was refuted by US Ambassador to Ukraine Bridget Brink:

We are talking about yesterday's $700 million aid package, including HIMARS systems... The Ukrainian side will regulate the distance at which they will shoot.

So far, the Ukrainian army will be able to continue to iron the Donbass after the liberation with missiles with a range of 80 kilometers, and at the same time the Russian Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod regions, plus the “prizes” in the form of Kherson and the south of Zaporozhye regions. If, or rather, when the Americans give Kyiv missiles with a range of 300 to 500 kilometers, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to shoot through the Crimea, Smolensk, Voronezh, Rostov regions and even the Moscow region.

Oh yes, let's not forget that the United States is ready to transfer four MQ-1C Gray Eagle reconnaissance and strike drones to Ukraine, which carry up to eight AGM-114 Hellfire anti-tank guided missiles of the air-to-surface class. With their range, major cities in Russia and Belarus, including Minsk, will be under attack. It is clear that a few anti-tank missiles will not cause much damage, but moral damage ... Well, such is the retribution for the peacefulness of the 2014-2015 model. They did not want to eliminate the threat in their underbelly at the initial stage, now, 8 years later, they got it in full - both war, and shame, and a huge number of victims on both sides that could have been avoided.

Why are we all this? To the fact that at least now you can’t stop halfway, having 100% reset and cleared UkroReich. Otherwise, later, a few years after the conditional "Minsk-3", when the war resumes, everything will be even worse and bloodier.
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  1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 3 June 2022 11: 21
    -4
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to shoot through the Crimea, Smolensk, Voronezh, Rostov regions and even the Moscow region.

    No, they can't.
    I won't even explain anything.
    Just at the end of autumn we will laugh at the horror stories that the media cooks up.
    1. zlyden.pisyuhastiy (Sinister Pisyukhasty) 3 June 2022 11: 52
      -8
      I think at the end of autumn you and I will laugh in the trench protecting Rostov, Krasnodar. It is bad to underestimate the enemy, in March they already laughed at us and mocked at the corpses of our children
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 3 June 2022 13: 51
        -3
        Do you hope you can drive him into the trench? Wangyu, that in response you will hear: "This is not a master's business!"
    2. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) 3 June 2022 13: 07
      +13
      You, an optimist, my friend) and now nothing arrives on the territory of our regions almost daily?! and there is no destruction, no casualties?! And it will fly until the "answer" arrives at Bankovaya, the Rada, the OP, the SBU, the Moscow Region and the General Staff of the Ukrainian regime, until there are victims among high-ranking Bandera and "figures" of the Nazi regime!
      in response, so far for the second month on the part of representatives of the authorities of the Russian Federation, only regular promises and "absentee" arrests:

      Dmitry Medvedev, in an interview with Al Jazeera, once again promised "strike on decision-making centers."

      same way:

      1.20 The head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, warned the Kyiv authorities against attempts to launch a missile attack on the peninsula, as in response, the decision-making centers in Kyiv would be destroyed.

      or :


      On June 1, American diplomats received a note from the Russian authorities announcing Moscow's withdrawal from the memorandum of understanding in the fields of culture, the humanities and social sciences, education, and the media.
      Rossiyskaya Gazeta

      the last one is especially "scary".
      And there should be other speeches and actions. The West will only stop at an equal or superior force, yet the "promises" of "attacks on decision-making centers" only add fuel to the fire (and increase the supply of weapons to the Nazis), as they are considered a sign of Russia's weakness.

      If NATO M777 howitzers reach the combat zone, then not enough is being done to disable the Ukrainian railways. Whether they do not want to make an appropriate political decision or not yet possible is a question. The sooner half-hearted decisions are replaced by effective ones, the better and safer it will be for Russia and the Russian army.

      Politicians are able to merge all the valiant and heroic efforts of Russian soldiers and officers, as well as allied LDNR, fighting to the death against the Ukrobanderites, without weakness and "muddy" negotiations.

      ps
      By the way, back in the fall, the head of the CIA, Burns, met with the director of the foreign intelligence service of the Russian Federation, Naryshkin, to convey that the United States would supply weapons to Ukraine. What a surprise...

      and back in December 2021, "the President of the United States and the President of Finland "discussed the importance of a joint transatlantic de-escalation effort and a close defense bond for years to come."
      In March 2022, both presidents from the Oval Office will call Swedish Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson with prior approval. In March! and then for some in May it is again a surprise ....

      Optimism, pessimism, underestimation, overestimation ... extremes are harmful in everything, even in virtue, said Confucius.
      And here are the facts, a stubborn thing.
      1. Horon Offline Horon
        Horon (Kharon Erebovich) 6 June 2022 09: 25
        -2
        I would like to argue with you, but ..., from the information available, I myself come to the same conclusions. Apparently, our HP leaders know such details that we simply cannot even imagine the logic of their decisions. Although no, you can imagine, but then it becomes well, very cannibalistic, but I would like to have a more favorable alternative to such logic.
    3. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
      Yuriy88 (Yuri) 3 June 2022 15: 08
      +11
      the author, you are a lawyer (to the edge of the reserve starley!), And you argue with the pathos of a general, as if the Americans handed over to Ukraine about 50 tons of drones (haven’t arrived yet!) And not 4 MLRS installations (haven’t arrived yet!) But also 50 tons of cars .. No one declared war and the methods are more counter-terrorist than front-line-army NVO! There is more likely a run-in of weapons, troops, tactics .. And when the same Kyiv (not Avdiivka!) Will fire not 2 guns, but 20 guns in one salvo, when the planes will storm not a couple, but a dozen .. That will be a war. .No one has really started the war with Ukraine yet .. shops are working, there is electricity, we are driving gas, trains and planes are flying .. That's when all this suddenly disappears in the territory called Ukraine (I am deliberately writing with a little one!) Then it will be war and there will be practically no help from the West physically ..
      1. Victorio Offline Victorio
        Victorio (Victorio) 3 June 2022 19: 48
        +2
        Quote: Yuri88
        they will fire not 2 guns, but 20 in one salvo, when the planes will storm not in pairs, but in ten .. This will be a war .. No one has really started a war with Ukraine yet ..

        I subscribe, only there will be more guns in the salvo and dozens of planes in the attack
      2. ocean969 Online ocean969
        ocean969 (Leonid) 6 June 2022 12: 26
        0
        Marzhetsky in his repertoire: first "draws a horror story," where there is none, and then rolls out "his" vision of resolving the issue.
      3. Milana Shvetsova (Milana Shvetsova) 8 June 2022 13: 56
        0
        Maybe then explain to those parents of those who have already died by several thousand Russian soldiers, many of whom will not even be able to get the bodies, what is the essence of such "humanism" in relation to the Nazis and the punishers of Ukraine ??? And if this special operation is according to plan, then it seems that the plan began back in 1999, when Ukraine, which was not included in the CIS, began its small movement towards the West with the full approval of the Russian leadership. And this leadership of Russia first allowed it to be pumped up with Nazism, for 8 years it allowed the Ukrainians to strengthen their positions around the Donbass and militarize, hushed up and did not act in any way against the Russians in the Donbass (the Solovyovs' empty chatter does not count) only for the fact that now, when they, finally, they finally nationalized, intimidated and consolidated the nacidean "ukrov" among the masses, it is possible to fight, setting the whole world against Russia ... As they explained to us, it was already impossible to wait. And 8 years ago, when it would not have cost Russia so many lives of real heroes, it would not have cost the lives of thousands of civilians in Ukraine - what prevented it, too easy a victory that the West could not allow ???? Because they need a long exhausting war until the last Ukrainian and the collapse of Russia??? What are Putin's real goals?
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 8 June 2022 15: 30
          +2
          I propose to get rid of the myth imposed by the West that Putin himself rules the whole country. The Russian government has always been, and unfortunately still is, the fifth column responsible for all the failures of Russia you listed.
        2. trill Offline trill
          trill (Pavel Titov) 10 June 2022 00: 53
          0
          People who are not sure of their rightness and narrow-minded are called names.
    4. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 4 June 2022 08: 36
      0
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Just at the end of autumn we will laugh at the horror stories that the media cooks up.

      If they do not start destroying cement plants, enterprises for the production of ready-mixed concrete (these are new defensive lines and the cost of overcoming them), all points of "re-shoeing" of wheel sets at the borders, bridges with a carrying capacity of more than 25 tons. you will laugh, only you, perhaps not where you would like to be.
      1. Horon Offline Horon
        Horon (Kharon Erebovich) 6 June 2022 09: 27
        +3
        To stop the cement plants, it is enough to rid them of gas, but this will not be done for "humanitarian reasons." request
    5. Vdars Offline Vdars
      Vdars (Victor) 4 June 2022 09: 02
      0
      I really hope!
    6. Amper Offline Amper
      Amper (Vlad) 6 June 2022 23: 07
      0
      Cap throwers have not disappeared in Russia! Like mediocre kings and courtiers ...
  2. olegfbi Offline olegfbi
    olegfbi (Oleg) 3 June 2022 11: 22
    +13
    Ukroreich needs to be reset completely!
    Reset so that there is no former Ukraine left on the map at all, and now 404. In their place there should be new regions and / or the Federal District as part of Russia.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 4 June 2022 01: 08
      +3
      All parts of this sub-state should not be taken into Russia, especially all this zapadenschina. Even last year, I would have proposed a cruel Finnishization of Western Ukraine, but Finlandization has now completely discredited itself.
      1. Andrey petrov_3 Offline Andrey petrov_3
        Andrey petrov_3 (Andrey Petrov) 4 June 2022 03: 57
        +4
        the population of Zapadenschina all year round in Europe plows to earn money, do not worry, they will not interfere with you.
      2. ustal51 Offline ustal51
        ustal51 (Alexander) 4 June 2022 10: 39
        0
        All the same, it’s probably worth it for the purposes of, well, a very harsh and cruel re-education ...
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 8 June 2022 15: 33
          0
          I would be for it, but who will deal with this re-education?
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 3 June 2022 11: 57
    0
    Quote from: zlyden.pisyuhastiy
    Underestimating the enemy is bad

    It's bad to underestimate. It's not better to panic. Even, perhaps worse. Especially when there are no facts to panic.
    BUT! Well, it became clear. Another resident b. Ukraine registered to wage a "fearless" war on the internet.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 4 June 2022 01: 03
      +2
      It’s really not worth panicking, but you can’t engage in hat-taking either.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 June 2022 06: 00
        -1
        There is no hatred on my part. There are facts and there is faith in our army.
        1. Amper Offline Amper
          Amper (Vlad) 6 June 2022 23: 14
          0
          It is good to stand on the porch with faith. And the Army needs the material part, trained fighters and wise commanders, a strong rear and a firm hand in the leadership of the country ... with which there are constant problems. And a goal that is clear to everyone, and not throwing from side to side with boyish scarecrows - how right now, it hurts the ladies and I’ll tell dad.
  4. Victorio Offline Victorio
    Victorio (Victorio) 3 June 2022 12: 05
    -7
    Naturally, I didn’t read everything from the author, because. recently appeared here (was on the water before the lockdown), "to a strange monastery", no offense, etc. but articles for the sake of articles, repetitions for the sake of repetitions, an argument for the sake of an argument, these are the conclusions. yes, you need to substantiate it, prove it, go through the analysis, questions for each paragraph. I won’t, there will be enthusiasts here even without me. laborer author. issues publications regularly, and the flag is in his hands with self-criticism.
  5. Rustem Offline Rustem
    Rustem (Rustem) 3 June 2022 12: 14
    -9
    What a cry for the situation, if only. The West has appeared without return just now. We cannot be ahead of the curve, so we are still working in their economic space. In 2014, can you provide verified statistics of a survey of the population of the DPR and LPR on joining the Russian Federation? If in 2014 the West also rolled out sanctions on food, then how would the population of the Russian Federation treat the authorities. The situation must be viewed in terms of checks and balances.
  6. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 3 June 2022 13: 07
    -3
    I agree with the author. I support.
  7. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 3 June 2022 13: 10
    +5
    Quote: Rustem
    What a cry for the situation, if only. The West has appeared without return just now. We cannot be ahead of the curve, so we are still working in their economic space. In 2014, can you provide verified statistics of a survey of the population of the DPR and LPR on joining the Russian Federation? If in 2014 the West also rolled out sanctions on food, then how would the population of the Russian Federation treat the authorities. The situation must be viewed in terms of checks and balances.

    The West has shown itself to be an enemy for a long time, since 1991, we are obliged to work ahead of the curve, and not to hit our tails, food sanctions were not terrible for us even then, but to recognize the LDNR so far without joining the Russian Federation and help them then in spirit and mind enough... that's why this comment is empty.
    1. Swiffer25 Offline Swiffer25
      Swiffer25 (Mario Kramer) 4 June 2022 06: 14
      0
      Dear Moray, I mean you are too rooted and looking at it from a limited perspective.
    2. VladMirUkh Offline VladMirUkh
      VladMirUkh (Vladimir Ukhalkin) 4 June 2022 09: 20
      0
      Correctly ! Only mediocrity works on the tails. Smart - ahead of schedule.
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 June 2022 13: 54
    -4
    despite the fact that in our media the goal of the SVO is persistently called “help and liberation of Donbass”, its capital Donetsk is still being shelled today, and even harder than before. How did it happen, who is to blame and what to do?

    So that's how it was meant to be. That's what happened.
    Who is to blame, and what to do is also clear.
    21st century in the yard, imperialism. Expansion of capital and territories. It was their population, careers and factories, will be our oligarchs.
    1. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) 3 June 2022 18: 33
      +3
      15.45 Peskov: there is no understanding when referendums will be held in the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson.

      like this .. understanding, "understood", they don't have. And it seems not only in referendums.
      and here is a new "discovery" from the prime minister:

      16.05 Mishustin: It is important to restore the role of the manufacturing industry as a basic component of the national economy.

      Do not you say?! but what about raw materials to the west - "our everything", and the rest did not give up for nothing, all the last 30 years ?!
      In the meantime:

      9.50 The request for the pumping of Russian gas through Ukraine on June 3 remains at the level of the previous days - 42 million cubic meters.

      which means that payments to the ukrorezhim for transit continue.
      and more:

      Press Secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov confirmed the participation of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in a meeting on the issue of exporting grain from Ukraine, the event will be held in Turkey. Newspaper.Ru

      again "muddy" negotiations (at least with Medina, at least with Lavrov), at least on Ukraine, at least on its grain ...
      but they wouldn’t let them take it out - maybe it would have come faster, through the stomach, to the “common people” and “common Europeans”, that it is worth slowing down the assistance to Banderstadt (they always have their own shirt closer to the body than Western vyshyvanka).

      Commenting on the sanctions that the European Union imposed against him and his family, Peskov noted that it was useless to challenge them now, NSN reports.
      “One can only regret that Europe is forced to follow the trend set in Washington. Disputing, at least now, is useless. There is no fair trial there,” the Kremlin spokesman concluded, RIA Novosti writes.

      let us recall at least about his wife: Former figure skating star Tatyana Navka, a native of Ukraine, who lived in the USA for 15 years.

      Daughter, Liza, lover of the West and luxurious life, rootless cosmopolitan:

      "I'm upset because I love different cultures, I love to travel. I'm a citizen of the world, and I can't do anything about it," she said in an interview and added that she didn't want to be responsible for her father. By the way, on the day the Russian special operation in Ukraine began, Lisa posted a popular pacifist appeal on her Instagram*. “In general, I have such a skeptical attitude towards the word “patriot”, because I consider myself a cosmopolitan, like many millennials. I consider myself a man of the world, and if I want to do something, then I do it not for some countries. I was generally born in Turkey, lived in France, that is, I do not have any favorite country," she added.
      Lisa also lamented: "There are a lot of pseudo-patriots in Russia who shout "Crimea is ours"...".

      what is the pop, such is the arrival! therefore he and they "regret."
      1. InanRom Offline InanRom
        InanRom (Ivan) 3 June 2022 18: 56
        -3
        ps: In 2020: RT chief editor Margo Simonyan wrote that she would like to see Dmitry Peskov in the chair of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. Instead of Sergei Lavrov.
        1. cooper Offline cooper
          cooper (Alexander) 4 June 2022 02: 30
          +4
          Well, this is of course tinny .. but, at the same time, I note that Lavrov frowns a lot and does little. He is far from Andrei Gromyko - "Mr. No" ..
          1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 4 June 2022 14: 56
            +1
            Andrei Gromyko nominated Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev for the post of General Secretary of the CPSU....
  9. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 3 June 2022 13: 58
    +1
    Quote: Rustem
    In 2014, can you provide verified statistics of a survey of the population of the DPR and LPR on joining the Russian Federation?

    You don't have enough referendums in Donetsk and Luhansk regions?
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Референдум_о_самоопределении_Донецкой_Народной_Республики
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Референдум_о_самоопределении_Луганской_Народной_Республики
    Or will you again shout about "voting at gunpoint"?
  10. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 3 June 2022 14: 00
    -2
    In 2014-2015, the Ukrainian army did not exist, and then there was simply no one to fight the RF Armed Forces, which numerous “guards” forget to mention

    These "fuckers" in 2014-2015. yelled "herself" in the direction of Ukraine.
  11. alexandrsargatka (Alexander Moskvin) 3 June 2022 17: 55
    -2
    Again, a couch fan who, sitting in front of the TV, knows everything and can tell about everything.
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  13. Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 3 June 2022 20: 51
    +3
    The author forgot how much time and effort it took to recapture the Donetsk airport. The 2014 situation was not a potential cakewalk
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 4 June 2022 00: 57
      +4
      That's just the airport was beaten off by the forces of the DPR, without aviation, calibers and other modern weapons.
      1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 4 June 2022 14: 54
        -2
        That's just the airport was beaten off by the forces of the DPR, without aviation, calibers and other modern weapons.

        This is about the question of how the "militia" "smashed" someone there ....
        The militia did not smash anyone, the "vacationers" smashed on the "north wind" ....
        And calibers and aviation will not help to pick out the Nazis from the airport ...
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 25 November 2022 16: 59
          0
          Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
          And calibers and aviation will not help to pick out the Nazis from the airport ...

          Yes, just raze this airport to the ground.
  14. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 3 June 2022 21: 36
    +6
    Yes, no one will stop at the denazification of Ukropina, has it really not become clear until now.
    As long as the Americans, without prejudice to themselves, have the opportunity to take actions aimed at reducing the population of Russians (and I mean Ukrainians), they will do it.
    Hand on heart, tell me, wouldn't we do the same with respect to the Anglo-Saxons? To imagine, purely hypothetically, that a war between the US and the World Bank suddenly broke out again, wouldn’t we fuel this war if nothing threatened us? I think we would be extremely stupid if we didn't. So the States will continue to play off everyone they can with Russia, as long as it does not threaten them.
    As soon as there is a threat directly to the States, they will say, "Well, ok, we are closing the shop, we didn't mean it at all."
    Russia will not be allowed to stop as long as there is at least some force in Europe that can be unleashed on Russia. Unless Europe itself throws off the yoke of the States. And she doesn't really want to do that.
  15. svit55 Offline svit55
    svit55 (Sergey Valentinovich) 3 June 2022 21: 44
    -1
    The author of the title for the article is "boss, everything is gone, the client is leaving, the plaster is being removed ..", if you look only under the tail, you will not see anything except the ass.
  16. Nikolai Pigin Offline Nikolai Pigin
    Nikolai Pigin (Nikolai Pigin) 3 June 2022 22: 33
    -1
    How it comes around and responds ...
  17. guest Offline guest
    guest 4 June 2022 00: 54
    +6
    Quote from InanRom
    Politicians are able to merge all the valiant and heroic efforts of Russian soldiers and officers, as well as allied LDNR, fighting to the death against the Ukrobanderites, without weakness and "muddy" negotiations.

    Well, not for the first time, if Russia once lost wars, then definitely not on the battlefield, but solely thanks to traitors in power.
  18. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 4 June 2022 02: 22
    +7
    He always maintained that in 2014 the Russian leadership made a strategically erroneous, even shameful decision. Now we are clearing up... PS And I never admired, to put it mildly, Putin's alleged geopolitical genius.
  19. wasp Offline wasp
    wasp 4 June 2022 05: 45
    +1
    Completely agree with the author! After all, the attack of the militia on Mariupol was forcibly stopped in connection with the negotiations that had begun in Minsk.
  20. Swiffer25 Offline Swiffer25
    Swiffer25 (Mario Kramer) 4 June 2022 06: 03
    -1
    So all this is not an "operation", but rather an aggressive war.
    Then why isn't it reported from the start? Then you are fooling yourself, or am I wrong?
    Now no one should be surprised by the reaction, please!
  21. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 4 June 2022 06: 36
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    Sergey is right. In 2014, our rulers betrayed the Russian world. We must completely liberate Ukraine, otherwise there will be no Russia.
  22. cell7458 Offline cell7458
    cell7458 (Pavel Kondratiev) 4 June 2022 07: 48
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    I finally know my homeland. Solid who is to blame and what to do. Maybe the path to sovereignty has really begun
    1. Victorio Offline Victorio
      Victorio (Victorio) 4 June 2022 08: 32
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      Quote from: cell7458
      I finally know my homeland. Solid who is to blame and what to do. Maybe the path to sovereignty has really begun

      well, in the kitchens, but in the media to talk about it. what do you mean by path?
  23. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 4 June 2022 11: 02
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    I remember the author, before the start of the SVO, also warned that you should not underestimate the Ukronazis with all your might, but for some reason the Kremlin strategist decided what happened in Crimea in 2014, it will work now, but it’s clear that he’s not a very good scout, that’s why they gouged the columns on the march, but that one but, persecuted by everyone, Strelkov warned that this would happen. The author is absolutely right in his predictions, but apparently the urapatriots again need living confirmation, apparently they did not have enough Donbass
  24. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 4 June 2022 14: 51
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    In 2014-2015, the Ukrainian army did not exist

    And that is why for three months they could not take 1 (one) Donetsk airport, and the battles around 1 (one) regional center - Debaltseve, went on for more than a month?
    Does the author take the audience for fools??
  25. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 4 June 2022 15: 36
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    Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
    In 2014-2015, the Ukrainian army did not exist

    and the battles around 1 (one) regional center - Debaltsevo, went on for more than a month?
    Does the author take the audience for fools??

    And what about the Russian army then?

    It is obvious that in 2014 only one request for help from Yanukovych was enough, and the whole country, and not just Crimea, would have been occupied completely legitimately and without resistance.

    By the way, who can prove that there was no such request?
    1. Milana Shvetsova (Milana Shvetsova) 8 June 2022 15: 27
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      By the way, who can prove that there was no such request?

      It is this moment that haunts me all this time. In Syria, Kazakhstan, where else - they immediately introduced everything that was needed, like, stopped the coup. And here, when a direct threat to Russia's borders and interests, is only the smirk of a reset and a shelter for Yanukovych. But then there would not have been such a world outrage, then it was a coup on sovereign territory with a legitimate president on the border with Russia ... It means that the zeroed understood everything, foresaw and waited for just such a turn of events. During the entire period of his 22-year reign, he did nothing good for Russia, which means that he will not do it and is not doing it. What is the real mission of this overseas worm, who has settled in the Kremlin, we will see on the verge of complete collapse. And all these fantasies on the theme of the revival of Russia are lies and brainwashing, the war goes on to the last Russian (Ukrainians included) ...
  26. Olga Taschilina Offline Olga Taschilina
    Olga Taschilina (Olga Taschilina) 4 June 2022 22: 12
    +3
    Unfortunately, much to my regret, the author is right. Ukraine and Ukrainians are perceived by the Russian authorities at the level of Gogol's fairy tales "Evenings on a farm near Dikanka" and snotty Soviet films on the Ukrainian theme, which is understandable, all the general secretaries of the USSR after Stalin were from Ukraine. Denial of the obvious and unwillingness to know the real state of things. Brother and that's it. And the reality fits perfectly into "My brother is my enemy." And there was someone to learn from and not smack nonsense in the development of the operation. I am sure that there would be fewer losses in the army and among the civilian population if they took into account at least some not according to book and movie fairy tales, but according to the real situation with whom we are dealing. There is in Ukraine (I hope she is still alive today, she is very sick) a journalist, an anti-fascist, a rare clever girl, Miroslava Berdnik. The daughter of a Ukrainian nationalist who did not love nationalism. A woman writes, weighing her every word. Not by half a word will it reduce or increase what has been said. Of course, the Communists did not really need her. There is little sugar in her truth about Ukrainians and Ukraine. Especially not needed nezalezhnoy Ukraine. Everything is written too honestly, and from what is written it follows that they are not arias. Miroslava went to Russia, hoping that her book would be published there. But in Russia they were afraid to publish such things about the "Ukrainian brother." Began to correct and smooth. The NWO began and Russia met with what Miroslava Berdnik's book warned against. I don't remember what the book is called. Miroslava asked readers to take her book. The SBU was on her heels. Today, in fact, the SBU leads it with a pen. Perhaps, already without the cunning Russian publishers, it forces her to correct what she has written. It's a pity. This book would help the Russian army to win today with fewer losses and in a short time. I have only read a small portion of this book. "Land of Judas" is a book about the Sumy region, about the mentality of its inhabitants and their behavior during the Great Patriotic War, about anti-Semitism and xenophobia. They still behave today as they did during the Second World War. Much is written about Lvov and the Lvov Jewish pogroms. So, Sumy and Sumy region are no easier in terms of mentality than Lviv. It's hard to accept. But, without any demands from the German command, the population, on its own initiative, destroyed 20 Jews as soon as the Nazis entered the territory of Sumy. And this is a proven statistic. My friend moved from Lviv to Sumy and said "I moved from one Bandershtat to another, Nothing has changed." So print and read good books and good authors and don't be afraid to face the truth. Kyiv - a city of collaborators during the Second World War. The population of the city collaborated with Hitler, and he was on the Alley of Fame near the Kremlin wall. The hero was not Kyiv, but the troops that liberated it. And Kyiv is a shameful city at all times. It's time to understand this. And in order to cure Ukraine, it is necessary to know for sure what it is and not according to Gogol's fairy tales. Miroslava Berdnik clearly described how each region behaved during the Second World War. All these areas are behaving in exactly the same way today. This must be known and taken into account in their army plans in order to win with small losses both the army and the population itself.
    1. bratchanin3 Offline bratchanin3
      bratchanin3 (Gennady) 7 June 2022 10: 01
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      Bravo Olga!
  27. Degrin Offline Degrin
    Degrin (Alexander) 5 June 2022 14: 07
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    Glory to Ukraine as a fertilizer supplier to the fields of Novorossia
  28. Ivanushka-555 Offline Ivanushka-555
    Ivanushka-555 (Ivan) 5 June 2022 18: 57
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    Why do the authors never give the name of the main culprit-peace-lover?! He is a fan of Western partners, global cooperation, gold-currency capsules and other liberal crap!
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  31. bratchanin3 Offline bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 (Gennady) 7 June 2022 09: 50
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    The Dnepropetrovsk accountant Basurin began to inflict colossal moral damage on Russia with his daily whining about the shelling of civilians, and today, just as daily, there is an advertisement of the helplessness of the Russian Armed Forces, unable to protect the civilians of Donetsk. Personally, I don’t give a damn about how many guns and tanks, planes and drones were destroyed (the West has a lot of them), my soul hurts for the murdered girl in my house and the inability of the RF Armed Forces to prevent this, and now they have also begun to refer to some kind of fortified an area that was initially overlooked, and then its capabilities were not taken into account. It seems that all these military "academicians" of ours did not know about the hostilities in the Second World War, although ours are doing something!
  32. For Don and Fatherland (Vladimir) 7 June 2022 09: 56
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    You just need to dismiss all lovers of Bandera who have entrenched themselves in the leadership of the Russian Federation and start fighting the way all foreign states are fighting. Ukraine would have tried to shell an American city and only ruins would have remained from the cities of Galicia, and Zelensky would have been finished off in some kind of rat hole with a concrete-piercing air bomb. Those who now offer the Russian Federation to fight with Ukraine in the same way that Boriska Drunk fought in the First Chechen War should be tried and imprisoned for treason.
  33. Milana Shvetsova (Milana Shvetsova) 8 June 2022 15: 55
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    How many civilians of Donbass, whose "protection" is allegedly concerned about by the Russian zeroed, must die, so that Russia's military actions finally smashed the decision-making center in Kyiv ????
  34. Milana Shvetsova (Milana Shvetsova) 8 June 2022 16: 34
    +1
    Military experts from Belarus predict the opening of a new front - the Baltic, as well as Poland and Romania, and not defensive, but offensive ... against Russia ... In the situation that is now, when Putin's generals have been waging war for 4 months as if they are embarrassed and during this time so many people died in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, I don’t know if this is protection or destruction of this population. If a new front appears, then residents of already Russian cities will be added to them. Ukrainians are already bombing Russian territories. And we have an answer - what?
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  36. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 9 June 2022 08: 24
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    The article is correct. Only at the end ... The author, like the vast majority themselves here, believes that once they have gotten into this, they must go to the end, to victory. Only now about the victory, everything is cloudy. For some reason, they think that they will fight to the last Ukrainian, who they say will end soon? Are you so sure of that? No, gentlemen, they will fight to the last Russian. Why don't you understand this? Ukraine is a single military camp, where absolutely everyone considers this war to be right, as they are fighting the invaders. Support for them, both financial and economic and military, comes from all over the world and they are determined to fight. And if there are few Ukrainians, then NATO will introduce its troops, this is already calmly said at the highest level of the EU and the USA. So to what victory and over whom are you going to fight here? Ivashov correctly said that Russia was dragged into this story from which she already, the whole can not get out. The West is moving on to the second phase of the destruction of the Russian empire - to the dismemberment of Russia itself. And so far everything is going according to plan.
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  38. getech Offline getech
    getech (Pavel) 14 June 2022 22: 37
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    It was necessary to immediately bomb Avdiivka after Mariupol or simultaneously with it. If this is a fortified area, it is clear that drones cannot get close, but this is not necessary. We can easily cover the entire fortified area with dozens of "Caliber", or even fifty missiles can be sent there, they easily break through concrete, especially since we have them and we have already done so. We also have "Sunflakes", a dozen of these will easily burn out the entire surface of the fortified area, and in combination with "calibers" there will be an infernal mixture. After what they did in Donetsk, here we must do this without options. Coke plant? So you can wait until the wind is directed deep into Kramatorsk or Slavyansk, then bomb it, and no poisonous cloud will come to Donetsk and Lugansk. All this can easily be done a long time ago, for some reason we ourselves are stalling for time when we have a lot of opportunities, the only question is "Why are we stalling for time?"