Why the People's Militia of the LDNR needs reforms and rearmament


Recently, the topic that our army is tired of fighting, cannot constantly attack the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and it needs time to take a breath and regroup has been stubbornly dispersed in the information space. At the same time, the idea is being consistently introduced into the public consciousness that Russia cannot liberate the entire territory of Ukraine, and therefore, by autumn at most, they will have to sit down and agree on a new line of demarcation with Kyiv. What could be behind all this, besides an explicit order from the “liberal tower”?


Unfortunately, there are quite real problems behind this, however, not in the Russian army, but among our allies from the DPR and LPR. No matter how you hide it, information about the difficult situation in the People's Militia seeps into the media space, and it makes you think a lot.

On the problems of mobilization



Not indifferent to the fate of the Donbass, which has been under constant shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the ninth year and the threat of their large-scale offensive, volunteers literally from the world are collecting money for the purchase of Chinese civilian quadrocopters, thermal imagers, body armor and other equipment for the People's Militia fighters, who have all this acute deficit. In the very first days after the start of the special military operation, Donetsk and Luhansk announced a general mobilization, putting under arms those who had arms and legs in place, and sending them into battle with minimal training and combat coordination. This decision was forced, since we are talking about the very further existence of the DPR and LPR within their borders recognized on February 21, 2022. In the frame of RIA journalists News even mobilized with Mosin rifles hit:

Among the reservists from the DPR there are those who fight with the legendary Mosin rifles - the main small arms of the Red Army during the Great Patriotic War.

In the domestic media, this filed blissfully, but it is obvious that the arming of those mobilized with ancient rifles is not from a good life. Here is the commander of the Vostok battalion Alexander Khodakovsky, who has been fighting for Donbass since 2014, saysthat the offensive potential of the People's Militia is rather limited:

If you drive, drive, drive, then it may happen that the army is so exhausted that its weakened enemy, having increased resources in the rear, can overturn, and then you can’t stop him.

Let us clarify that we are not talking about the Russian army, but about the People's Militia of the DPR and LPR, in whose ranks Khodakovsky fights from the very beginning and knows the situation from the inside. But how did it happen that the militia of Donbass, which 8 years ago quite successfully resisted the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the "volunteer battalions", albeit sometimes not without the help of the "north wind", now in a streamlined form asks for a suspension of the offensive and a respite?

Half life



For understanding, it is necessary to take into account that the militia of the DPR and LPR of the sample of 2014-2015 and 2022 are two big differences, and, alas, the comparison is not in favor of today. That's how in interview As early as July 15.07.2021, XNUMX, a well-known blogger and participant in hostilities in the Donbass on the side of the LDNR, Vladlen Tatarsky, commented on the situation to the Moskovsky Komsomolets publication on July XNUMX, XNUMX:

No matter how hard it is to say, the state of the People's Militia in Donbass is deplorable. There are a number of reasons for this. Firstly, the war is in its eighth year, and many of those who came to defend Donbass in 2014 have, of course, already quit. They were replaced by those who either do not have the slightest military experience at all, or came simply because factories and enterprises were closed in the Donbass. And the man came just to get paid, but not to fight.


The militia of Donbass has gone through several stages of its development. Initially, in 2014-2015, there was a real freemen, but after the liquidation of the “atamanshchina”, they began to build regular troops - the People’s Militia. This had a positive impact on the stability and combat capability of the DNR and LNR. The real pivot on which everything rested was the ideological volunteer defenders of the People's Republics, who came there from all over the world.

The process of decomposition began after the signing of the second "Minsk agreements", when the Kremlin headed for the return of the LDNR to Ukraine on "special conditions". It became clear to those who came to fight for the Russian world and New Russia that they had nothing to look forward to, the conflict began to drag on, and the hands of the People's Militia were constantly tied, forbidding them to respond to the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard in peaceful cities. The outflow of battle-hardened ideological defenders began, and experienced junior and middle-level commanders left. On the background economic problems of the unrecognized republics at that time, those for whom a salary of 15000 rubles a month seemed quite decent went to serve in the People's Militia. Today it seems to be already 16400. According to Tatarsky, recruits received only minimal basic training. For each round fired, it was necessary to report. I had to fight on the old technology, like BMP-1 and BMP-2.

This was enough for low-intensity positional battles, but it’s not hard to guess how the large-scale offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard would turn out, which NATO military experts trained and coached for 8 years to steamroll through the DPR and LPR. They would crush the defense of the People's Militia in a few days, and the Russian army would not even have time to intervene. In this sense, the special operation, launched preventively, was timely.

What do we have in the dry residue? Those holes in the defense capability of Donbass that have been forming for a long 8 years now have to be plugged with the help of mass mobilization, where the “jambs” of responsible persons are again covered by the heroism of ordinary people. The people's militia really needs to be reorganized, retrained and re-equipped, and the fighters on the front line need to be rotated. You need to start doing this now.

But the professional Russian army, formed from contractors, can and should continue the offensive without giving the enemy time to regroup. Why you can not take a break, we will talk in more detail later.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 May 2022 11: 20
    +1
    There's no point.
    As soon as it joins the Russian Federation, there will already be a real Russian army.

    And no matter how it "does not join" - so what for money to spend? It will be the same as now, nothing will change. "No money, hold on"
    The Russian spring has been curtailed, instead of it - MMM and EDRO, kickbacks from supplies, optimization, closure of enterprises, poverty, even food is not enough "police", they wrote, our troops feed them.

    And without kickbacks they do not let the goods for this "police", and for a long time. . This means that this is the official course for its curtailment.

    Example: Chechnya. Skyscrapers in the center, poverty along the edges, the Eastern and Western battalions were liquidated, their former commanders were partly liquidated altogether, but the Chechen National Guard and the FSB. Production ... remember the Chechen buggies. Subsidies and debts for gas ... (which Kadyrov officially nullifies.)

    The 21st century is in the yard, imperialism, what kind of "people's militia" is ...
  2. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 29 May 2022 11: 43
    -1
    So isn’t it better to start equipping and integrating the self-defense forces of the LDNR, bringing them to the required level, organizing border forces in order to finally stop militants from penetrating and shelling cities than to “fight to the bitter end”?
  3. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 29 May 2022 11: 44
    0
    The interpretation of the motives of the statements of A. Khodakovsky seems doubtful: is the field commander of Donbass really playing along with high-ranking Moscow liberals?

    There are problems on both sides of the confrontation.
    Only Ukraine solves them by way of sharomyzhnichestva.
    LDNR - must solve them on their own, not like the enemy!
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 13: 13
      +2
      Khodakovsky basically vilifies the "Tymchuks" from the Donbass, who are issuing frankly harmful orders. and on their own, LDNR will NEVER decide ANYTHING. Only with the approval and instructions of Moscow. The same asphalt plant in Mariupol ... even the garbage at the future construction site will be removed by people from Russia. From all over Russia, specialists from road services are coming to engage in construction. even from my village in the Urals, drivers with KAMAZ go.
      1. Victorio Offline Victorio
        Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 13: 31
        0
        Quote: Just Cat
        Khodakovsky basically vilifies "Tymchuk" from the Donbass, issuing frankly harmful orders. and on their own, LDNR will NEVER decide ANYTHING. Only with the approval and instructions of Moscow. The same asphalt plant in Mariupol ... even the garbage at the future construction site will be removed by people from Russia. From all over Russia, specialists from road services are coming to engage in construction. even from my village in the Urals, drivers with KAMAZ go.

        Khodakovsky used to be Akhmetov’s man, he was also charged with the death of militia at the Donetsk airport in 2014. a dark story, maybe Donetsk or competent people have more information on this character. and now everything is ok with him, he leads and fights, speaks authoritatively from the screen, and pulls the blanket over himself. I may be wrong.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 13: 42
          -4
          the retired strelkov, who has moved his mind, is also charged with a lot of things ... only when the foreheads of draft age fled from the Donbass to Russia, he demolished the checkpoints of crests without weapons with bulldozers. you can, of course, wait another 800 or 8000 years when a talented commander of at least a platoon of opanas nogozaderishchenko appears.
          1. Victorio Offline Victorio
            Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 13: 48
            -1
            Quote: Just Cat
            the retired strelkov, who has moved his mind, is also charged with a lot of things ... only when the foreheads of draft age fled from the Donbass to Russia, he demolished the checkpoints of crests without weapons with bulldozers. you can, of course, wait another 800 or 8000 years when a talented commander of at least a platoon of opanas nogozaderishchenko appears.

            there is some specifics - write. and since your position has already been adopted, why repeat.
            1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 13: 55
              -2
              Are there specifics in your opus? Zhukov did not interfere with being the Tsar's Knight of St. George and fighting for the Motherland.
              1. Victorio Offline Victorio
                Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 14: 03
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                Quote: Just Cat
                Are there specifics in your opus? Zhukov did not interfere with being the Tsar's Knight of St. George and fighting for the Motherland.

                ? repeat again. I have to go, everything.
      2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 29 May 2022 13: 43
        -1
        Are KAMAZ-s operated in the Ural villages?
        Not bad!
        No desire to join the builders and go to / to the Donbass, where it is not safe?
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 13: 50
          +1
          and rusty KRAZs should be used in the Ural villages? I have no desire to get involved in a dispute between Bondarenko from Kiev and Shevchenko from Donetsk.
          1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 29 May 2022 14: 16
            -1
            Why rusty?
            Risking your head is not making "comments"!
    2. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
      Kofesan (Valery) 29 May 2022 22: 10
      0
      I agree. Moreover, ... who said that ...

      in the information space, the topic that our army is tired of fighting is stubbornly dispersed

      ??
      The statement made at the very forefront of the article is controversial. If not false at all. Approval as wet dreams of tired Ukrainian "analysts".

      Well, the site is Ukrainian !!! With Russian Ukrainians at the head. And what are they really thinking about, they are releasing their point of view from a special, visible angle to them alone, ... the devil himself will not understand.
    3. zloybond Offline zloybond
      zloybond (steppenwolf) 29 May 2022 23: 16
      +1
      just twisted the idea. And the author "slightly" slows down. it's not about suspension. It's just that units rotate periodically. Some are brought out to regroup and rest, others take their place and go forward. So it was in the Second World War. But the people, greedy to squeal, begin to talk about who knows what. Khodakovsky doesn't talk about STOP. He reminds that rotations are necessary. The second echelon changes the first - in general, normal military fuss.
      1. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
        molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 30 May 2022 13: 25
        +1
        And why then voice this question at all, exciting the people and turning them into a problem in their minds. ?
  4. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 12: 53
    -4
    Yes, there is a whole book you can write answers to the question "why". Why was there not a single officer from the locals, why are there no commanders of detachments with Khokhlyat surnames, why are the videos filmed in the DPR and LPR rather reminiscent of propaganda almost from the middle of the last century in content and style. there are many questions .... but the answer will be the same almost everywhere and lies in history, when Russia and Poland divided the "reserve" with living creatures along the Dnieper channel ... rather than reforms, deportation and resettlement are needed there. Cossacks settled across the territory of Russia still go sideways. In general, there is a proxy war, and many do not think about the meaning. maybe they don’t want to because it will be a shame?
  5. Victorio Offline Victorio
    Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 13: 21
    -1
    in 8 years, a hare can be taught to beat the drum, and even more so people. different units in the militia, different levels. they fight no worse than the average Russian soldier. plus motivation. Yes, the supply, weapons leave much to be desired. and in the Russian army is not without problems with this.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 13: 38
      -2
      how many centuries Ruriks, Romanovs, communists tried to teach Ukrainian "hares" anything? Well, where are their Lomonosovs? but pole vaulting, football, boxing, and fake-titted boobs are good.
      1. Victorio Offline Victorio
        Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 13: 44
        +2
        Quote: Just Cat
        how many centuries Ruriks, Romanovs, communists tried to teach Ukrainian "hares" anything? Well, where are their Lomonosovs? but pole vaulting, football, boxing, and fake-titted boobs are good.

        off topic, talking about the militia. mentality and national characteristics have a place to be, but we ourselves, in Russia, the stigma is not cleaner.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 29 May 2022 13: 53
          -2
          Everything is fine with the "stigma" in Russia ... even Buryatia sends contract soldiers from the Buryats, Kazakhs from Russia are fighting, but I didn’t notice something from the refugees ...
          1. Victorio Offline Victorio
            Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 14: 00
            +1
            Quote: Just Cat
            Everything is fine with the "stigma" in Russia. the same Buryatia sends contract soldiers from the Buryats, Kazakhs from Russia are fighting, but from the refugees, they didn’t notice something who wanted to ...

            take it wider, look deeper. any of the belligerents there deserves respect.
          2. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
            molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 30 May 2022 13: 34
            +1
            Yes, we are not doing a favor to the Donbass people. There wouldn’t even be a single Donbass from our side, we still had to go to Ukraine – the question is global – to be or not to be Russia and Russian. The quality of the LDNR army and the course of the draft-mobilization of the LDNR-sheep are more dependent on our jambs in organizational matters and even in strategy. Even in the course of the NWO that had already begun, we did not have the final goal of being in Ukraine. Yes, and we can’t deal with our own inside Russia. Not to mention the tailwind in the sails.
  6. Vlad Petrov Offline Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov (Vladimir) 29 May 2022 14: 45
    -1
    The demoralization of the Ukrainian army is obvious. Clown Zelchik and a gang from NATO gave the commandos of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to shoot indestructible ukrov fleeing from the Russian army and surrendering to captivity ... It's useless. Khokhlyatsky fascist cannot shoot himself no honor. Then the detachments will have to work with a machine gun to bring down the Khokhlyadina.
  7. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 29 May 2022 16: 07
    0
    Quote: Victorio
    why repeat.

    And it is necessary to repeat in order to finally name the one who gave the order to stop Donetsk and Lugansk in their desire to go to Kyiv 8 years ago. Who is this rubbish, because of which the best people of Russia are now dying?
    1. Victorio Offline Victorio
      Victorio (Victorio) 29 May 2022 18: 19
      -2
      Quote: FGJCNJK
      Quote: Victorio
      why repeat.

      And it is necessary to repeat in order to finally name the one who gave the order to stop Donetsk and Luhansk in their quest go to Kyiv 8 years ago. Who is this rubbish, because of which the best people of Russia are now dying?

      I think it would be impossible, difficult, untimely and so on. even the people involved in this case have not yet come to a consensus on this issue.
    2. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 10: 08
      0
      I immediately see a good old sofa warrior. He would have reached the Atlantic, on his own, alone. Do you even know that the conquered territories must be controlled? It is because of this that the LDNR has shrunk to size in February of this year. They are simply not able to control a larger area. They could have reached Kyiv, only there they would have been caught and hanged on Khreshchatyk. What did the Germans face in the occupied territories during the Second World War? That's right, with the partisan movement. In Ukraine, for Russia, a maximum of 40-45% of the population, and they are all in the South-East. This is not Crimea, where 90% were for Russia, a completely different case.
  8. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 29 May 2022 17: 52
    -2
    Yes, and it's time ... The fighters have been fighting for 2 months, almost the entire Donbass has been liberated ... So it's time to reform ... I recognize the scoundrel reformer by his gait ...
  9. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
    molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 30 May 2022 13: 20
    +3
    The rotation and reserves had to be prepared even before the start of the NWO. And now let the General Staff recall the experience of the Second World War. Stops should not be before the borders with Poland. Truce and negotiations are our defeat. Practice has shown this.
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 10: 03
      0
      You wrote nonsense. During the Second World War, no one prepared any reserves, and this is physically impossible. If a person does not do some work every day, he loses all skills very quickly. Everything is learned just in the war, where everything comes an order of magnitude faster. To whom it has not reached, they become two hundredth.
  10. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
    igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 10: 00
    +1
    Author, are you sure about everything? Or looking for news on the Internet? It looks like the last one. Do you even know that during the Second World War it was not those who served in 1941 who graduated, but completely new people and they learned everything in the war, and not in the classroom. In war they learn very quickly, in a couple of days they master what a soldier in peacetime masters in two years. As it was said in the unforgettable film, if you want to live, you will not get so upset. Maybe enough to sing along to the fifth column?