Operation in Ukraine: Russian army given the most difficult order


I'll start by admitting a mistake: in my article “Why should Russia hit Ukraine if there are more effective targets - a scenario,” assuming that the first blow of the new conflict would not be on the Square, I was wrong. Although such a continuation is clearly not ruled out yet, if even after the completion of this military operation, the "partners" will still be little compliant in matters of global security at someone else's expense.


I do not have up-to-date intelligence information, unlike those who make decisions. Perhaps the starting point was the factor in the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the invasion of Donbass, perhaps Zelensky’s brainless chatter about nuclear weapons, perhaps something else ... Nevertheless, we have what we have: after eight years of torment for the inhabitants of the LDNR and endless talk about the allegedly ongoing war with Russia, where “the valiant warriors of Ukraine are heroically fighting for the security of enlightened Europe with the terrible Russian hordes on the Eastern Front,” Russia suddenly took it and came to this very “war” (although this is not a war, but a special operation). And one cannot even say that in all its glory, since the use of the armed forces, although massively, is still in a very limited mode, and the existing technical capabilities, at least, are not fully used yet.

This is what I want to focus on. Surely everyone heard that the Russian command gave its troops an order to treat the local population and infrastructure with the utmost care, and even (!) to minimize losses in the enemy’s manpower – the Ukrainian army, that is, by all means. With the local so-called national battalions and similar scum, the story will be clearly different, but this applies to the regular army - people, they say, under oath, follow orders, they must be treated with respect ...

For those who are not particularly versed in the matter, I will explain: in the army this is one of the most terrible orders both for those who give them and for those who execute them. Since the military understands that by saving the lives, infrastructure and property of the enemy, we inevitably and deliberately increase our losses. And the enemy in this case is not anyhow - the largest European country with a relatively well-trained army and weapons is not at all at the level of Syrian terrorists. Tanks, missiles, artillery of all types and calibers, air defense, aviation, even some kind of navy, and all this was supplied, trained and trained by the best NATO instructors for many years. This army is motivated, sniffing real blood, and its mentality is not at all Italian or Georgian (I don’t want to offend anyone, but ...), but rather closer to ours. What's even worse.

The enemy is relatively strong, and he, for his part, is definitely not going to regret our guys, and he no longer regrets it. And we, VSUshnikov, should feel sorry for them, like this. It must be borne in mind that these are people close to us, that they have families, children, parents at home, and this must be understood ... Later, it seems, we plan to continue to live together in peace and harmony. And so now we must regret. On the one hand, the meaning of this order seems to reach me, but on the other hand ... They don’t feel sorry for our people at all, they continue to hammer the peaceful Donbass from all calibers, for the eighth year already. And not only Donbass. It's all hard... But back to the special operation.

For understanding - the regular army, even our special forces, are without a doubt the best in the world, this is still not anti-terror special forces, which are specially taught to free hostages from hijacked planes, buses, buildings, etc. The army is taught to fight with other armies and here, to put it mildly, somewhat different rules of the game. And now imagine that this very army, in fact, was tasked with releasing the hostages, but at the same time also saving the lives of as many terrorists as possible holding them, which in itself is already a terrible operation. But that's not all: the size of the "captured premises" is six hundred thousand square kilometers, with cities and villages, plants and factories, nuclear power plants and other dangerous objects, rivers, mountains, forests, seas, etc., and the number about forty million hostages. How do you like that?

In order not to seem a little, there are still “add-ons”: a large number of hostages, including women and children, clearly have “Stockholm syndrome”, they are zombified, and the terrorists gave them military weapons, a bunch of cartridges, grenades and even MANPADS. With all this, ordinary people in a completely unknown number and no one knows where are now on the side of these same terrorists. That is, people in civilian clothes and even children can shoot at our army literally anywhere, from any window and any ditch. Can you imagine something even more terrible for a soldier? I don't think so.

If it seems to someone that everything described above is some kind of terrible surrealistic fruit of a sick imagination, then this is not at all the case. This is the reality that Russian troops are facing today in the Godforsaken territory that was once one of the republics of the USSR called Ukraine. And it was precisely this horror that it was turned into during 30 years of “independence” by the local power structures with the help of Western curators. Our army is now in this hell and is carrying out the combat missions set by the command. Takes losses. And at the same time, every day we hear on the air how Major General Igor Konashenkov reports in a calm voice about the planned advance of the troops and the successful completion of the assigned tasks. Already a week. I don't know what it costs him to keep that calm voice and face. A person must have iron restraint, because he is one of the few who knows exactly what is really happening there.
And the following happens.

Bearing inevitable, although incomparable losses with the enemy, our Armed Forces, as well as the army corps of Donetsk and Luhansk, already in fact recognized by this moment as the regular armies of the most real independent states, with fire support from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, with heavy battles, inexorably move deeper into the depths of those captured by terrorists territories. The entire major military infrastructure of the enemy was almost completely destroyed by this moment. Aviation is no more. There is no air defense. There is no fleet. Rings of encirclement are closing around combat-ready groupings. The armed forces of Ukraine also no longer have any chances, not only for victory, even for some worthy completion of hostilities, which even their Western curators admit. The President of the country is unknown where. The West howls and in impotent rage throws all sorts of sanctions. They are already hitting us hard, but in the very near future they will also hit them like a boomerang. This is how they arranged this global system of interdependence, now they will pay. It will still be hard, but the end is definitely a foregone conclusion - we will win. This is not yet a won conflict, but I hope the biggest real “hot” battle in it is the battle for Ukraine 2022. And this will go down in history.

But what is the most important thing now? The most important thing is not to succumb to provocations and sugary persuasions. In my opinion, it is already clear that the enemy cannot be trusted. He is not negotiable. This concerns both the Ukrainian leadership and the entire “consolidated West”. The operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine must be brought to an end. Otherwise, all the sacrifices on both sides of this terrible conflict will be in vain. And in no case should this be allowed, already too much blood and losses have brought us all this.

I do not know whether the successful completion of this operation can be called a victory in the usual sense of the word. But this will definitely be the end of our defeat, which has continued for the past thirty years. Apparently, this is the historical mission of our multinational Russian people - to rise from the ashes and change the deadlocked world for the better. And we will change it. Again. We are not used to.
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  1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 March 2022 09: 14
    +19
    But what is the most important thing now? The most important thing is not to succumb to provocations and sugary persuasions. In my opinion, it is already clear that the enemy cannot be trusted. He is not negotiable. This concerns both the Ukrainian leadership and the entire “consolidated West”. The operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine must be brought to an end. Otherwise, all the sacrifices on both sides of this terrible conflict will be in vain. And in no case should this be allowed, already too much blood and losses have brought us all this.

    Yes.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 25
      -7
      Already got in. It's too late to take back. Otherwise, the second Khasavyurt. Only with the participation of NATO. It's all about the resilience of the captains of Russian business, the owners of private banks. They lend to military-industrial complex enterprises, after the introduction of financial sanctions in 2014.
      1. Dingo Offline Dingo
        Dingo (Victor) 2 March 2022 16: 15
        +2

        They are already "conducting conversations" with them ... So far, in a good way ... What is really pleasing is that ANYWHERE, not even on a single forum, even liberals, oligarchs - they are not called the "elite" ...
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 16: 38
          -13
          They have been "talking" with them for 20 years. And Vaska listens and eats. Darlings scold, only amuse themselves.
        2. Sergey Zemskov Offline Sergey Zemskov
          Sergey Zemskov (Sergei) 4 March 2022 16: 19
          0
          And who do you think is "them" and who prevented "talking" before? I note that most of these guys are order bearers, Heroes, i.e. were they given all this to those who "conduct conversations"? I wonder who came up with this nonsense?
      2. Demonlivi Offline Demonlivi
        Demonlivi (Dima) 3 March 2022 23: 24
        0
        We all thought that we would prove to the Nazis in the Donbas what the Russian army meant !!! We will return the territory to Donetsk and Lugansk regions! But what will we trample on to all the cities of Novorossia and get stuck there, we will lose so much newest equipment, and boys! And how many people are dying from the bombings in Kharkov, it seems to me that Russia is risking everything here! Too long and many Russian people bring sacrifices! And who will reap the rewards? I think, according to the American sanctions and on whom they are imposed, those oligarchs are the real patriots of the motherland!
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    2. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
      Krapilin (Victor) 2 March 2022 14: 20
      +1
      It seems that those regions of present-day Ukraine that are organized with the help of "senior comrades" into some kind of statehood under any name they want, and so in this statehood there is no "THEIR" cadre army, especially with heavy weapons, as well as the navy and military aviation - should not be. Their external protection - if anything! – will be carried out by the Russian Federation under the relevant agreement ...
      Everything else: police, border guards and the like necessary to maintain internal order - no problem.
      1. barinov.pnz Offline barinov.pnz
        barinov.pnz (Alexander Barinov) 3 March 2022 05: 45
        +3
        It is not productive to re-educate and support the Ukraine*. It must return its own, that is, Little Russia and New Russia, the rest * to drive into the EU.
        1. zenion Offline zenion
          zenion (zinovy) 6 March 2022 15: 29
          0
          You don't write much. Russia, through the body of Ukraine tickled the spleen of the United States. Now they will go to different procedures for some time to understand what to do with the body through which they have trouble with the spleen. Some believe, not without reason, that the body will have to be disconnected from the United States.
  2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 2 March 2022 09: 17
    +12
    The most important thing is not to succumb to provocations and sugary persuasions. In my opinion, it is already clear that the enemy cannot be trusted. He is not negotiable. This concerns both the Ukrainian leadership and the entire “consolidated West”. The operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine must be brought to an end. Otherwise, all the sacrifices on both sides of this terrible conflict will be in vain.

    So.
    The liberation of the entire territory, without stupid gifts to different poland.
    Several new republics with neutral or friendly authorities in relation to the Russian Federation.
    And LDNR should return to Russia. As they wanted.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 22
      -7
      It was necessary not to succumb to provocations in 2005.
  3. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 2 March 2022 09: 20
    +3
    Russia found itself in a position long shown in cinema

    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 2 March 2022 09: 25
      +1
      It is not yet clear how far our authorities will go.
      It is possible that the spouses will judge the prosecutor.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 2 March 2022 09: 26
        +2
        Russia still decided to take the bride to the registry office
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 2 March 2022 09: 40
          +2
          I'll get better. Of course, not the newlyweds and not the bride.
          Rather, divorced spouses build relationships after a conflicting divorce.
          The ex-wife allows the father to communicate with the children, and he increases his expenses for the children.
    2. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) 2 March 2022 17: 47
      +1
      So Russia itself is a prosecutor to all prosecutors.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 2 March 2022 09: 27
    -21
    So many were wrong, even the Kremlin and Putin.
    Back in December, they said that the rumors in the Western media about the attack were false, and in February it turned out that Biden, Zhirinovsky, the Western media were right, but ours were not.

    So globally, the West and NATO won, alas. Horror stories about Russia turned out to be "true", now money for the arms race will flow from their governments like a river, and their internal problems and disagreements will be relegated to the background for a long time.

    And Ukraine ... so who, by and large, needs it? Only for a small victorious war amid rising prices.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 26
      -7
      The refrigerator is always above the TV, and above the computer.
    2. antibi0tikk Offline antibi0tikk
      antibi0tikk (Sergei) 2 March 2022 10: 51
      +7
      I just read a joke here on the Internet

      Two friends meet. One tells the other
      - I met a young oligarch, he calls me to marry, he will give me a Bentley, and then we will go on a cruise!
      - Really?? And I go to courtesy classes.
      - And what's interesting there?
      - Well, for example, instead of the word "wee ... breathe" say "really"?

      Well so here, returning to the topic of the commentary.

      now money for the arms race will flow from their governments like a river, and their internal problems and disagreements will be relegated to the background for a long time.

      Really?
      Well, against the backdrop of the financial crisis and the debts of these "engines of the European Union", rising energy prices, and besides, the imposition of sanctions that hit not only Russia, but also the European Union, where will the money come from??? Well, I can express my guess as to what and where they will pour, but here people are well-mannered, not like me - boorish and would .... lo, so I'll sign up for "politeness courses."
      What are the problems in the EU? Fight for the rights of minorities? Unemployment? Migration crisis? And how will the confrontation with Russia relegate them to the background? If they do not pay attention to them and engage in an "arms race", then these problems will not be solved by themselves.
      So on February 23, the norms were noted!
      Maslenitsa has begun, it would be necessary to burn some scarecrow! For example hound-renko.
      And then May 9th! Let's do the reconstruction of the "capture of Berlin" ????
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 11: 14
        -9
        The Russian population from the debts of Europeans, British and Americans is not easier. Especially to the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, Roskosmos.
        1. antibi0tikk Offline antibi0tikk
          antibi0tikk (Sergei) 2 March 2022 11: 20
          +6
          There is a small clarification: the debts of Europeans, British and Americans to the Russian population for ..... (oh, I'm on courtesy courses!), ARE INDIFFERENT!!!
          And the military-industrial complex (hello Mistrals) and Roskosmos (hello NASA from RD-180) will somehow live without them.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 12: 14
            -8
            You're right. The military-industrial complex and Roskosmos, at the end, got the opportunity to make a real leap forward.
            1. antibi0tikk Offline antibi0tikk
              antibi0tikk (Sergei) 2 March 2022 23: 17
              0
              Yeah .... The Russian military-industrial complex is pathetic .... and Roscosmos is a complete gloom .....
              But I believe!!!!! after this painful divorce of Roskosmos from NASA, the Americans will definitely drop the Russian anchor and rush up!!!! fly to the moon again! so what, they organize space tourist cruises on a lunar safari! 14 times a week! one day there and back!
              And our military-industrial complex .... oh, there are not even words ....
              so I personally took the last doll from my daughter, took it to the pawnshop! and all so that our military-industrial complex makes not three but four pins for the pitchfork, and the ax handle is half a centimeter longer (by the way, fathers, no one knows the office for increasing the ax handle ??? throw it off in a personal). Well Duc here, I can say the last from myself and I tear off the family! and they, this pathetic military-industrial complex, what are they doing ??? All sorts of incomprehensible calibers, but Zircons with Poseidons ... Sunshine (well, at least they warmed the soul with the name), and Pinocchio (and who is this???) ....
              you are right, my friend gunneminer (who finally called you that, dad or mom? or did the CIA drive ???) !!!! straight trouble with our military-industrial complex and Roskosmos !!!
              *PS: by the way, you don't care about "writing all sorts of nonsense"!!! come back in a week.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 23: 26
                -1
                Without Russian components, without engines, NASA cannot see space orbits. Even low ones. Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin smears the swindler Mask on Twitter regularly and specifically.
                1. Demonlivi Offline Demonlivi
                  Demonlivi (Dima) 3 March 2022 23: 28
                  0
                  Ragozin predicted the mask: that they would jump into space on Battuta!;)) so the mask made a "trampoline rocket" 1 stage, flew into space, returned, refueled - flies again!
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      3. Cetron Offline Cetron
        Cetron (Peteris) 2 March 2022 20: 05
        0
        USA will win. The arms race is an increase in the defense budgets of NATO countries for the purchase of American weapons!
    3. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
      Astronaut (San Sanych) 3 March 2022 10: 52
      0
      So you definitely had to report that on the 24th there will be an offensive?
    4. special correspondent (oleg) 4 March 2022 17: 22
      0
      Well, let them drive money for armaments. The less they will have left for beer-t-shirts and gay parades. Their life will obviously become simpler and less attractive. Well, in a global clash, no matter how high-tech weapons they invent, nuclear warheads and their delivery vehicles will decide everything. And they will ALWAYS understand this.
  5. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 March 2022 09: 34
    -2
    All is correct
  6. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 2 March 2022 09: 34
    +7
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    And Ukraine ... so who, by and large, needs it?

    You, the fifth column, only need money. Both big and small.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 11: 12
      -8
      RUSNANO and Skolkovo, not the fifth column? A lot of money was wasted. Enough for two AUGs with berbaz and crews.
  7. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 2 March 2022 09: 35
    +4
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    So globally, the West and NATO won, alas.

    Well, the fact that everything is gone is already a familiar five-column song.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 11: 11
      -7
      Withdrawal in one fell swoop of billions of currency abroad, isn't it the fifth column? Is the creation of a trillion-ruble debt of military-industrial complex enterprises annually not the fifth column? The absence of hundreds of heavy and impact UAVs in the sky is not the result of the actions of the fifth column? A pile of criminal cases in the military-industrial complex, in the Moscow Region (deputy of the NGSH for communications, deputy of the GK VKS) is this not the fifth column?
  8. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 2 March 2022 09: 55
    +4
    Nothing, Alexei, we will survive, not the first time, but we just need to tighten our tails on our 5th column so that we don’t hysteria for the “world” in which civilians die, and we are no strangers to the hysteria of our Western “partners”. There will be no problems with the transfer of power, they will bring the illegally overthrown Yanukovych to purged Kyiv, who will temporarily appoint the Supreme Council, the government, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB, etc., etc., but under the watchful eye of our special services, then they will decide on elections at all levels, including the presidential election, although this procedure may drag on for a long time in this Ukrainian hard times until the political and economic situation is relatively stabilized. We need to put a huge device in Western Ukraine, Galicia, let them be "adopted" by Poles with Hungarians and Romanians, and they know what to do with them. We just need to stop lisping again with the Nazis in the liberated territories - in the Donbass they have a lot of work to restore by them everything that was destroyed by them there, as was the case with the captured Germans after the Second World War .... And it turns out that we have no other way until we create a government loyal to us there, with the entry into R. F. separate federal district.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 29
      -9
      Nothing, Alexei, we will survive, not the first time, but we just need to tighten our tails on our 5th column so that we don’t hysteria for the “world” in which civilians die, and we are no strangers to the hysteria of our Western “partners”.

      And who is she, this fifth Russian fifth column? The media write about it. But be afraid to criticize.

      We need to put a huge device in Western Ukraine, Galicia, let them be "adopted" by Poles with Hungarians and Romanians, and they know what to do with them

      There is no Stalin on them. laughing tongue
      1. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
        Astronaut (San Sanych) 3 March 2022 10: 55
        +1
        You have already proven that you are a parrot, you repeat the same thing, no one listens to you anyway, calm down, ass))
    2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 2 March 2022 21: 13
      +1
      As for the Poles and Bandera, I also thought so for a long time, but among the gentry lately, it seems to me, Russophobia has already outweighed in this matter - they will support anyone, just to annoy us. Although it will definitely come back to haunt them later.
      And one more thing: I hope very much, with all due respect to the historical monuments of Lviv, that in Galicia all these rules, such as preserving everything and everyone at the cost of our own blood, will not work for our soldiers. there are no longer ours. Lemberg, of course, is a beautiful city, but in terms of historical value it is not Kyiv, not Odessa, and not even Palmyra. It’s good when it exists, but it won’t, the loss is also not great ... Dresden was more beautiful until 1945 ... I apologize in advance to whom I offended, but this is my personal opinion ...
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 23: 27
        -7
        And how do the Czechs react to the Ukrainian events?
  9. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 March 2022 09: 59
    +5
    ... I don't know if the successful completion of this operation can be called a victory in the usual sense of the word. But this will definitely be the end of our defeat, which has lasted for the past thirty years ...

    What thirty-year-old "our" (!) defeat is the author declaring?! Yeah, that's about what, probably: "... I don't know ...".
    Like a classic - "... mixed up in a bunch ..." thoughts, plans, ideas, phobias, manias and addictions.
    Now Ukraine is just one of the places of CIVILIZATION clash of mutually exclusive vectors of the further existence of the human population on planet Earth.
    Either humanity will self-destruct on the basis of "democratic universal values" for an abstract fly, wallet and stomach, or will continue to exist on the values ​​of the human soul, heart and mind.
    There will be more than one such place as today's territory of Ukraine in such a confrontation. And many, primarily in the "civilized West", will have to decide: do they themselves want and do they want their children and distant descendants to live like people ... Or they themselves agree to scatter themselves with the abomination of dehumanization in the postulates of "tolerance", "multiculturalism" , and other "sexual freedom" ... Or are they READY to save themselves and save their future descendants by DEED from this Western civilizational filth, along with Russian and other ethnic groups living in Russia today ...
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 00: 58
      0
      And many, primarily in the "civilized West", will have to decide:

      - I will upset you a lot (or maybe not), but I myself am upset about this in truth:

      they agree to succumb themselves to the abomination of dehumanization in the postulates of "tolerance", "multiculturalism", and other "sexual freedom"

      in your own words...
      So don't count on them. And as for the thirty-year defeat, I meant this: well, with the nineties, I think everything is clear, and then, even though we were rising at that time, the answer to any disgusting things was only the "deep concerns" of the Foreign Ministry, which, as a result, to the banal he did not seriously object to the taking away of his own property; We endure all sorts of sanctions meekly and just wipe ourselves and grumble something about WTO rules...and whose rules are these? why do we even play them? Our athletes, disabled heroes, not excluding how many years have been performing without an anthem and a flag everywhere, huh? This is not the position of the stricken? How many times has our president spoken to everyone honorably, but they only laughed at him openly ... Isn’t that how they behave with the astonished?
      Here, I hope, we have grown up, strengthened again, and now, subject to the successful and complete completion of the military operation in Ukraine, we will finally get out of this permanent position of "terpila" - the eternal stricken ...
  10. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent 2 March 2022 10: 14
    -4
    The article, as in the story of a schoolboy: "We started to learn physics and in the lesson I learned that the body expands when heated and contracts when cooled. Now I run and tell all the adults about it!".
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 30
      -9
      Accurate and concise description. So battles for minds cannot be won.
    2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 01: 41
      +1
      If you're so, like, smart and advanced, why are you reading anything at all? What are you looking at on the screen? You burn energy in vain .. Somehow unecologically friendly ... Here, there is nothing at your level wassat
      Read the writing of the ancient Mayans or draw information directly from the Universe... Why are you wasting time among us mortals??? what
  11. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 21
    -11
    The author writes as a company political worker.

    And one cannot even say that in all its glory, since the use of the armed forces, although massively, is still in a very limited mode, and the existing technical capabilities, at least, are not fully used yet.

    Stay there, come here.

    For him a little bit of educational program.

    This expression alone shows that only political workers could say such a thing. For reference: in the course of hypothetical military operations on the scale of a theater of operations, strikes are carried out on priority targets and massive fire strikes. Note that in the course of operational-strategic planning, the epithets “powerful” (as well as “medium”, “weak”, etc.) are not used.

    Military science emphasizes that strikes can be strategic (this mostly applies to strategic nuclear forces), operational and tactical. According to the number of forces involved and objects hit, strikes can be massive, group and single. It is still better not to introduce or use other concepts, even in works of a political science nature.

    Attacks on priority targets and massive fire strikes can be carried out within the framework of the front (fronts on the western borders of Russia have not yet been formed) or the main command of the armed forces in the theater of operations (so far, one has not been created in the South-Western strategic direction either). Anything less than that is no longer a massive hit.

    And what, for example, is a massive fire strike (MOA) of the front? To begin with, we note that the maximum number of combat-ready forces and means of aviation, missile troops and artillery, electronic warfare equipment at the disposal of the commander of the front forces (operational-strategic formation) is involved in the MOU. The MOU consists of one massive air sortie, two or three launches of OTP and TR missile systems, and several artillery fire raids. Well, if the degree of fire damage to the enemy is 60-70%.

    https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2022-02-03/3_1175_donbass.html

    Do not tell my Iskanders, Author!

    It will still be hard, but the end is definitely a foregone conclusion - we will win. This is not yet a won conflict, but I hope the biggest real “hot” battle in it is the battle for Ukraine in 2022. And this will go down in history.

    What about Karabakh and the former SAR, Transnistria? What's on their side?
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 01: 09
      +1
      Oh! Again I see this military enthusiasm! And straight bearing in a chair with a spine in the shape of the Latin letter S. One would like to ask: My dear, if you like being (like) a military man so much, why don’t you go to the army and never went, huh? And I never saw a company political worker alive in my life! You don't look like a military man, calm down already! I want it, I like it, I understand, but it's a bummer, it's not destiny ...
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 3 March 2022 13: 00
        -4
        You are there, in the Czech Republic, do not speak Russian out loud. Especially with your colleagues from the Bundeswehr. They will say nasty things.
        1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
          Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 16: 56
          0
          Thank you for your concern, unless of course you are serious, did not expect. hi As for my colleagues from the Bundeswehr, I speak with them either in English or in their native language. And by the way, they had already understood for a long time what was happening there and how it could all end. It will be warmer, maybe I'll see you again at the airport, I'll ask what they think about this ..
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 3 March 2022 19: 17
            -4
            No kidding. Just a wish. If only they and their direct superiors understood

            what happens there and how it can end

            a number of programs for the military development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be completed by 2018. And it was not planned for 2022-2023. From 2019, the Armed Forces of Ukraine would conduct brigade-level exercises, practice the skills of using new types of weapons. And the battalions and storekeepers would have been more tightly controlled.
            With the outbreak of hostilities, a lot goes wrong. There is more disorder than expected, and there is a sharp increase in the urgent need for cool, determined, competent senior officers.
            1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
              Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 22: 16
              +1
              If you are really so much interested in the military topic, then you should know that at the moment of the start of hostilities, real ones, it suddenly ALWAYS turns out that something was not done or was done wrong. In almost any army, from those that I know at least. A real war rarely goes according to plan, even with excellent intelligence and analysts. And I won’t talk about intelligence in NATO, but analytics is really absent due to its obvious politicization. They only hear what they want to hear, and that's a big mistake. because they act on that basis. And their officers themselves are talking about it. Look at what recently happened to the Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy, for example. And it just got into the press, and such examples are practically on a daily basis here. And the lustrations after the collapse of the VD, when all the top-level professionals were simply taken and expelled from the armies and intelligence services.
              And this is not new either - at one time to Hitler, apparently out of the best of intentions, his entourage also presented the situation in many ways as the great Fuhrer wanted to see it, and not as it was in reality. And then, in accordance with this, many decisions were made. And that helped us a lot too.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 March 2022 14: 11
                -4
                These are just superficial manifestations. It is difficult to evaluate them.
                1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                  Pishenkov (Alexey) 4 March 2022 23: 02
                  0
                  Yes? It’s just strange to hear this from you ... And then what do you consider to be the deepest manifestations of this problem?
  12. Marjane Offline Marjane
    Marjane (Marian) 2 March 2022 10: 34
    +5
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    So globally, the West and NATO won, alas. Horror stories about Russia turned out to be "true", now money for the arms race will flow from their governments like a river, and their internal problems and disagreements will be relegated to the background for a long time.
    And Ukraine ... so who, by and large, needs it? Only for a small victorious war amid rising prices.

    When you act proactively, people do not know another scenario. In both cases, there will be problems and condemnation of the leadership. Of course, Putin knows this... Apparently, having compared the possible consequences, which we do not really know, he made a well-known decision.
    Now I suddenly imagined that in 2014 he would not have annexed Crimea ... It seems to me that all these years it would have been much worse for us, there would have been no peace, as well as no economic development. At first it was hard, but then it somehow stabilized, agriculture even rose and the pandemic was overcome no worse than others.
    Now our economy is stronger than it was. There is hope that we will endure and no one will touch us physically. Economic problems will, and especially psychological pressure, fear. There will also be possible tough internal measures, which we have not yet fully experienced, but are already familiar with ...
    This is not a small victorious war. This is the suspension of a big war at least. We will always be provoked, sanctioned, like everyone else who resists. The pandemic was not accidental, and omicron, which arose unexpectedly and became the best "natural" vaccine, somehow suspiciously at the time ... The virus itself is apparently a biological weapon, so very tough measures were immediately taken and the military was doing it!
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 11: 04
      -8
      When you act proactively, people do not know another scenario.

      Where, in these 30 years, have you seen our advance in politics? In Ukraine, in particular?
  13. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 2 March 2022 10: 35
    0
    Quote: Valentine
    We need to put a huge device in Western Ukraine, Galicia, let them be "adopted" by the Poles

    How can you put a device on them if you give them to Poland?
    Galicia must be denazified.
    And then our missiles aimed at Poland should be installed there.
    And a special economic tax - for the restoration of Donbass.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 49
      -7
      Galicia must be denazified.

      How ? At what time? What to do with the strata of the population who do not want to be denazified?
      1. special correspondent (oleg) 4 March 2022 17: 31
        0
        And nowhere ... dear friend. "Denazification" is not performed by surgical opening of the skull. It will simply be extremely difficult for a genetic Nazi to openly express his essence both physically and financially. And all that national vomit that they are accustomed to spew out of themselves freely and under the encouraging cries of the authorities' coming out .. will have to be swallowed. And this is extremely harmful to the digestive organs and health in general, and greatly shortens life.
  14. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 10: 48
    -9
    The army is taught to fight with other armies and here, to put it mildly, somewhat different rules of the game.

    Author ? Where are the units and subunits for the protection of troops? Where are the checkpoints on communications and near settlements? Where are the helicopters accompanying the columns? Where is the protection of columns and technical short circuit? Why does Ukrainian TV, communications, the Internet work? Forgot DRA, North Caucasus, SAR, 080808 ?
  15. EpIvIaK Offline EpIvIaK
    EpIvIaK (Ian) 2 March 2022 10: 48
    0
    I noticed different opinions about the western part of Ukraine. How to be with her.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 11: 01
      -5
      To begin with, it is necessary to establish at least daytime control over Eastern Ukraine. There, too, not everyone is happy with the current turn of events. The 53rd brigade is staffed mainly by natives of Kharkov, Luhansk and Donetsk regions. And military personnel have relatives, relatives have other relatives, and close acquaintances. This brigade is in no hurry to lay down its arms.
      1. EpIvIaK Offline EpIvIaK
        EpIvIaK (Ian) 2 March 2022 11: 05
        -2
        Yes... And unfortunately for a long time it will be so that even with seemingly complete control and the end of all this, some individual radical fighters will be found. Yes, and how many machine guns were distributed to such people, they rob their own, etc. Such as cockroaches will climb out or hide for a long time ...
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 11: 07
          -7
          Not only weapons handed out shoot. Enough lying around on the battlefield. There are no trophy teams. So is the ammunition.
      2. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) 2 March 2022 13: 51
        0
        Why are you itching here, catching fear in the local public, or you didn’t have time to read our president’s new decree on those who help the Bandera regime in Ukraine, you perfectly understand that you are not at all welcome on this resource, you are a stranger here, and, apparently, this is your job, sort of, on the sly, to poke around in our brains. Remember, you asked me where the "5th column" is in Russia - that's you, then you are its bright representative, unless you are a foreign troll.
        It is you who are so "quiet" here, and when the "black funnel" comes for you, then you will sing like a nightingale about everything that you knew and did not know. And you should not assume that only holy fools are sitting in our General Staff, but the country is ruled by an inadequate person, and what you know better from the sofa, how and what is, and how it will be.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 14: 39
          -6
          About the decision. There is such an army saying - Tanks do not crush bedbugs. How to crush the Bandera regime during hostilities, with unoccupied settlements, with non-functioning law enforcement agencies on Ukrainian territory, with local television, the Internet, and mobile communications working, have not yet been invented.

          Remember, you asked me, where is the "5th column" in Russia - here you are its bright representative, unless you are a foreign troll

          Complete lack of operational thought. Start with the elimination of mobile communications, TV and the Internet in Ukraine. Then try to start working with local draft youth. Not knowing how to work with your own, Russian, it is quite difficult. Soldiers are not trained in this. Our movement commissars were sent on indefinite leave in 2012. Good luck in the fight in the open spaces of blogs!
          1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
            Dart2027 2 March 2022 14: 47
            0
            Quote: gunnerminer
            How to crush the Bandera regime during hostilities, with unoccupied settlements, with non-functioning law enforcement agencies on Ukrainian territory, with local television, the Internet, and mobile communications working, have not yet been invented.

            Elementary, first you need to win the war, and then restore order.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 14: 58
              -6
              Agree. The situation is complicated by the absence of war. Instead, a much more complex event - a special operation.
              1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                Dart2027 2 March 2022 16: 16
                0
                Quote: gunnerminer
                The situation is complicated by the absence of war.

                This is what war is. Only some wars are very specific.
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 16: 39
                  -6
                  Rospotrebnadzor banned the use of this word.
                  1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                    Dart2027 2 March 2022 17: 31
                    0
                    Politics. Nowhere to go.
    2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 01: 10
      0
      Apparently different wink soldier
  16. Marjane Offline Marjane
    Marjane (Marian) 2 March 2022 10: 55
    +1
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Quote: Valentine
    We need to put a huge device in Western Ukraine, Galicia, let them be "adopted" by the Poles

    How can you put a device on them if you give them to Poland? Galicia must be denazified.
    And then our missiles aimed at Poland should be installed there.
    And a special economic tax - for the restoration of Donbass.

    All local residents should be returned there - this is at least. I think that the forests there are not enough for them. An analogue of Kosovo in terms of hatred. The Poles want this land... without inhabitants
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 14: 40
      -7
      It is especially difficult to return local residents from the EU, from the UK, from Canada, from the USA. A donkey standing in the shade will not work in the sun. Vainakh proverb.
  17. Anna Tim Offline Anna Tim
    Anna Tim (Anna) 2 March 2022 14: 37
    +4
    Yes, this is the most important thing not to be sloppy in the negotiations, not to go on about liberal prompters. Otherwise, everything is down the drain.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 15: 54
      -6
      And what about Medinsky and Gryzlov, liberals?
  18. Art Pilot Offline Art Pilot
    Art Pilot (pilot) 2 March 2022 16: 23
    +4
    The choice was this - either the Russian world perishes in one generation, or today to fight the collective West and the new fascism that this West cherished.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 16: 40
      -9
      Something a modest outfit of forces was sent to fight with the West. Exposing the rear and the economy.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 2 March 2022 17: 59
        0
        Quote: gunnerminer
        Exposing the rear and the economy.

        Pervert, leave the economy alone. And rear. laughing
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 18: 02
          -6
          The economy and the rear, and so left. Or rather, abandoned.
          1. Valentine Offline Valentine
            Valentine (Valentin) 2 March 2022 18: 57
            0
            Quote: gunnerminer
            The economy and the rear, and so left.

            Are you scared again? But our Commander-in-Chief specially issued a decree before this "sabantuy", according to which all our "vigorous" forces were put on instant alert, so that in the Kuriles we can safely leave only one watchman, Uncle Vanya, with a bottle of moonshine, and more than one Japanese mother there he won’t climb behind his northern territories, remembering Hiroshima and Nagasaki .... Yes, Putin signed a Decree that you will have up to 15 years of Kolyma for subversive activities against the RF Armed Forces.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 21: 16
              -6
              The mention of nuclear warheads does not add to the number of armored vehicles, aircraft, high-precision weapons, motorized riflemen, tankers, pilots, paratroopers. Do not brag about going to the army. Boast about riding with the rati.

              Yes, Putin signed a Decree that for subversive activities against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, you will have up to 15 years of Kolyma.

              Putin has more serious clients.
              1. Valentine Offline Valentine
                Valentine (Valentin) 3 March 2022 11: 45
                0
                Quote: gunnerminer
                The mention of nuclear warheads does not add to the number of armored vehicles, aircraft, high-precision weapons, motorized riflemen, tankers, pilots, paratroopers. Do not brag about going to the army. Boast about riding with the rati.

                Yes, it does not add, but it replaces many times all the attributes of conventional weapons you have listed, where neither this "hardware" nor human resources are needed.
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 3 March 2022 13: 02
                  -4
                  Doesn't replace. And complements. Nuclear warfare is expensive to manufacture, store, and operate. Control, security and defense systems cost a lot.
          2. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 2 March 2022 21: 10
            -2
            gunnerminer, this is the usual excuse of a thief, they say, it was bad... It’s clear why you are hanging around here. am
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 21: 18
              -6
              It's time for you to start learning how to march. At least start doing morning exercises, stop overeating, blow beer in liters.
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 2 March 2022 21: 27
                -2
                gunnerminer, and it's time for you to remember the appeal, citizen chief. Your answer does not pull on a psychiatric hospital. yes
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 21: 29
                  -7
                  It’s bad that you and I didn’t know anything about what was happening in Ukraine for 8 years. Only separate fragments, thanks to the brave journalists of the Red Star. Together we will crush the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 2 March 2022 21: 42
                    -1
                    gunnerminer. It's good that you don't know much, so be it. yes
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 23: 18
                      -6
                      At present, by joint efforts we are studying, catching up. Away with the routine, let's forget about mortgages, about loans, about waving at wholesale stores, about gadgets for the duration of the special operation.
  19. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 2 March 2022 17: 44
    -1
    Quote: gunnerminer
    They have been "talking" with them for 20 years. And Vaska listens and eats. Darlings scold, only amuse themselves.

    Doesn't it seem like the situation has changed drastically now? If a MONTH ago some had the illusion of disappearing with the dough, then after the pressure on their fellows, I think confidence appears. that one's own is better than others'. And stay safer. To do this, after all, you need to negotiate with the authorities.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 18: 01
      -6
      In what way has the situation changed for the people in question? They are citizens of the world. With multiple citizenships.
  20. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 2 March 2022 18: 08
    +1
    Quote: gunnerminer
    In what way has the situation changed for the people in question? They are citizens of the world. With multiple citizenships.

    And where are they without dough? In the position of Khodorkovsky, running around the capitals and living on the maintenance of special services? With our pensions, such a life is a luxury, but for their luxury, life on our pension. So, it's better not to stick out and be invisible. Until the storm passes. That is the sanctions.
  21. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 2 March 2022 18: 14
    0
    This order means only one thing, the non-use of heavy fire systems (they are still not very selective) such as TOS Solntsepek, Pinocchio, MLRS of large calibers against infantry accumulations. This does not apply to armored vehicles and artillery. It is actually understandable. A one-time salvo from 4x Tornadoes is equated in effect with a strike by tactical nuclear weapons of 10-15 kt. The sun, this is generally a mortal horror on the front line.
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  22. AND Offline AND
    AND 2 March 2022 18: 20
    -2
    Quote: gunnerminer
    The economy and the rear, and so left. Or rather, abandoned.

    The gunnerminer here is the American euro propaganda headquarters against Russia. Provacator and instigator!
    1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 2 March 2022 19: 24
      0
      Quote: AND
      The gunnerminer here is the American euro propaganda headquarters against Russia. Provacator and instigator

      Nothing! With his constant attacks of a known substance on the fan in the direction of Russia and its economy, army, military and political leadership, he has long and completely exposed himself as an enemy. A clear enemy is not terrible if you know what to expect from him. If he is from the "fifth column", i.e. is located (in one capacity or another) on the territory of Russia, then the Investigative Committee will soon deal with it in view of the fairly rapidly changing legislation. And if he "barks" because of the "hill" - so be it, "The dog barks, but the caravan moves on" (c)
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 23: 19
        -6
        The Russian army is stronger than ever! By winter 2022, she is at the peak of her power.
  23. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 2 March 2022 19: 00
    +1
    The operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine must be brought to an end. Otherwise, all the sacrifices on both sides of this terrible conflict will be in vain. And in no case should this be allowed, already too much blood and losses have brought us all this.

    Yes, that's right. This may take many years. You have to go through a period of terrorism. But there seems to be no other way.
    1. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) 2 March 2022 19: 53
      +2
      Unfortunately, at a time when the necessary measures could be carried out quickly, efficiently and almost bloodlessly, Russia did not have sufficient forces and resources to guarantee the "response" of the collective West, and the "fifth and sixth" columns simply would not allow this do ... So, just THIS! I really hope that our Supreme Commander-in-Chief will have the will, firmness and determination to complete what he has begun. And we, the "old" - retirees, will support him! In an EXTREME case, there will be enough strength and determination to complete the task as intended or, at the "extreme", to occupy a shooting cell with a PKT (or NSV, Kordom).
    2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 01: 24
      0
      Terrorism, along the way, has already been started, and then it would only grow on our territory. So this fact was clearly taken into account, especially knowing that the terrorists were and are being prepared in advance. The main thing is not to make the mistake of the 50s and not to amnesty the middle and lower levels of the OUN - we are now fighting with their children and last ones. And the same Poles did not even take them prisoner in the 50s. Therefore, they have a Ukrainian population in the east of the country, but no Bandera. And in Ukraine, in the west, there were and are, and so it is, that the whole country was raped ...
      That is why I believe that negotiations can only be conducted on humanitarian corridors in exchange for the most humane terms for those responsible for this whole celebration. And no Minsk-3, no termination of the operation. And then, after all, and among those who have now been taken prisoner and will be released home, it is also necessary to carry out a complete re-control. Now it is clear that there is no time for this and no personnel, but no one has canceled military and Nazi crimes. Yes, they say, my dear, we captured you at the front in uniform and took you under oath, as we promised, and released you. But if before that you robbed, killed and raped civilians, yelled at Bandera rallies, then you will have to answer for all this ...
      1. Mouse Offline Mouse
        Mouse (Andrei) 3 March 2022 02: 22
        0
        When to answer? Here are accustomed Wait in Russia to slow down. To the echelons, and to Siberia, let them answer.
        1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
          Pishenkov (Alexey) 3 March 2022 08: 47
          0
          But this is not worth it - firstly, we have a difficult heredity with this, then there will again be many mistakes, setting up, and then again for the next 100 years to repent about any victims of repression? Secondly, we don’t need to immediately scare them like that - we need them to surrender now in maximum numbers, and thereby save the lives of both themselves and ours, and bring the end of the conflict closer. In the end, the consequences of all this will mainly depend on what the final number of victims will be ...
  24. Nikita Merkuliev (Nikita Merkuliev) 2 March 2022 20: 08
    +2
    At present, the situation is clear, it is difficult, but solvable. The essence of the future of Ukraine. What to do? Leave it as a separate state or join Russia? As a separate state, Ukraine did not take place - this is obvious. The "elites" of the independent robbed their people and slowly sold the country. If you leave her independence, everything will repeat itself with an even worse option, and the most difficult thing is the younger generation, they are already infected with the virus of Nazism. 10-15 years, this will have to be decided as after the Patriotic War with the Bendera people. And this is a burden on Russia. Again on us Russians. A heavy burden, but necessary. Only they themselves need to be made to understand that it is enough to be dependents.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 2 March 2022 23: 21
      -6
      Nobody knows. Depends on the Ukrainians themselves, and on the Russian military administration.
    2. Mouse Offline Mouse
      Mouse (Andrei) 3 March 2022 02: 21
      0
      Correctional labor camps. Works, not harmful, tested.
  25. Mouse Offline Mouse
    Mouse (Andrei) 3 March 2022 02: 19
    0
    Hello. What I want to say, guys, it was necessary to deal with the reptile immediately and not after 8 years, but yes, I understand that they were waiting, watching what they would sow, yeah, here we are reaping the benefits. Okay, let me give you some advice. Do you want to spare the National Guard, all in all, but as much as you like, just do not spare, take prisoner and go to Siberia. They forgot Joseph's methods, they forgot. There will be targets and Russia will still serve. Do not let go home, your own, as they put it here. Get captured.
    1. Rico1977 Offline Rico1977
      Rico1977 (Alexander) 3 March 2022 19: 52
      0
      no. We have been preparing for 8 years. Because in 2014 we would have simply been crushed by sanctions, military and internal riots. We were not ready for war, but the West is ready. And they lured us to war. That is why they burned people so defiantly and brazenly, killed children, and fired at houses. They were waiting for us to get in, and then they would finish us off. We endured, swallowed. But they started getting ready. Now we have a completely different internal environment, economy and a completely different army. Even diplomatically, we are not losing. Prepared, and when they were ready - hit.
      1. Grandpa Wow Offline Grandpa Wow
        Grandpa Wow (Nikolai) 3 March 2022 21: 55
        0
        Yes, prepared even economically and technologically! They finalized their Internet, cut off economic dependence on the West to a minimum. Actually, for 8 years at least something was squeezed out of the devastation, and that's good!
  26. Rico1977 Offline Rico1977
    Rico1977 (Alexander) 3 March 2022 19: 48
    0
    If only they didn't stop. If only it wasn't all in vain.
  27. Olser Offline Olser
    Olser (Oleg) 3 March 2022 21: 35
    0
    Sadly, those military men who didn’t want to get dirty in blood by the end of the week had to understand everything and leave by any means, frankly ideological ones remained to fight, and besides Nazism, nothing else is visible, God be their judge, it’s not a pity.
  28. Grandpa Wow Offline Grandpa Wow
    Grandpa Wow (Nikolai) 3 March 2022 21: 49
    0
    I’ll add a little: remember also how it all began! Let's remember 1990!.. And the tanks near the government building (the "White House", as it was called)? Everyone demanded the collapse of the hated Scoop! Received? Sign! Well, that's right, lyrics! Now everyone is independent and happy! ..
  29. Marjane Offline Marjane
    Marjane (Marian) 4 March 2022 12: 00
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    It is especially difficult to return local residents from the EU, from the UK, from Canada, from the USA. A donkey standing in the shade will not work in the sun. Vainakh proverb.

    This is a joke. It is clear that they mean all Westerners living in Ukraine.
  30. Sergey Zemskov Offline Sergey Zemskov
    Sergey Zemskov (Sergei) 4 March 2022 16: 22
    0
    The author - that's what "war" is -

    War is a conflict between political entities - states, tribes, political groups, and so on - occurring on the basis of various claims, in the form of armed confrontation, military (combat) actions between their armed forces.
    As a rule, war is a means of imposing one's will on the enemy. One subject of politics is trying to forcefully change the behavior of another, make him give up his freedom, ideology, rights to property, to give up resources: territory, water area, and more.

    Compare with what is happening and tell me how this definition differs from what is happening ???

    As for the DPR and LPR, Russia recognized these territories as Ukrainian until the end of February 2022. Those. everything that happened there took place on the territory of a neighboring, independent state. This is approximately what was happening in Chechnya.
  31. Κασσιόπεια ΣπίθαA (Κασσιόπεια ΣπίθαA) 4 March 2022 18: 46
    -1
    GDP of TSAR RUSSIA 1900 13,7 trillion dollars
    After the "revolution" and 3 generations of our ancestors, hunched backs for a "bright future" led to 2.6 trillion dollars and the war between the Slavs ...

    Are you sure that you are the people who have the right to tell your neighbor how to live?
    are you sure that you are not fighting for the sake of China or / and the United States? after all, a weak RF is a gift to the dragon, Siberia is “not ours” ...
  32. And W2 Offline And W2
    And W2 (And W2) 5 March 2022 17: 17
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    We are suffering big losses. But why? Because we are not at war with Urkaina. If we fought like light elves, there would be almost no losses, in any case, 50-100 people. War is elven democratically, it is humanitarian to bomb into the Stone Age. 1 month or 4 bombings ONLY. Bomb peaceful cities, infrastructure, water supply, sewerage, energy, medicine, children, women and the rest of the civilians. Hamburg, Hiroshima, Nagasaki firestorm. Bombing of Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Fallujah with napalm and phosphorus ammunition. Wounded by phosphorus is when the wounded person still does not live long, and the phosphorus in the body still burns with a huge temperature and smokes with poisonous fumes.

    Phosphorus was used against the unrecognized republics!!! The states have not signed documents on the non-use of this misanthropic weapon! If we fought like impudent Saxons, Kyiv would look like Hamburg and Hiroshima, with millions of unidentified victims who disappeared into the fire. If you don't want Moscow, Minsk, Leningrad Kazan, and then Beijing ... to look like in the photo, work brothers! Destroy Bandera scum ruthlessly.

  33. Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) 9 March 2022 02: 31
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    Yeees. Ukraine still hanged on us. If earlier they wanted only money, now they also want to fight and saboteurs. We will have to feed them. And we only need one victory. one for all, we will not stand up for the price. I am for victory.