The Power of Siberia-2 gas pipeline unties the hands of Russia and at the same time ties them to Europe


Vladimir Putin will soon travel to Beijing for the opening of the Olympic Games. During the meeting between the Russian president and Xi Jinping, an agreement may be signed to launch the Power of Siberia-2 project. According to expert and journalist Yuri Podolyaka, Russia and China may announce several breakthrough agreements in the gas and oil sectors.


Such agreements are designed to solve Russia's main strategic gas problem - tying together the country's gas transportation system, after which Moscow will be able to "blackmail" both Europe and China

Podolyaka noted in an analytical video on his YouTube channel.

Maybe “blackmail” is not quite the correct term in this context, but Moscow will get its hands on such an effective instrument of influence on the West and East, which so far one can only dream of.

Russia can say to Europe: if you don't want to buy our gas, please, we have Chinese partners. The Kremlin will be able to say the same to the Chinese. Thus, Moscow has a choice, which means it can raise the stakes in the geopolitical game

- the expert described the situation.

According to Podolyaka, Power of Siberia-2 can repeat the success of Nord Stream-2 in its own end dividends for the Russian side. This pipeline frees Russia's hands and at the same time ties them to Europe, since Gazprom will be able to reduce the volume of gas supplies to European markets if necessary.


Any further butting with Russia, especially after the introduction of the "Force of Siberia-2", threatens Europe not just with a price shock, it threatens with energy starvation, because at any moment Moscow will be able to refuse the EU in the corresponding volumes of supplies

Yury Podolyaka warned.

At the same time, the journalist did not rule out strategic gas agreements between Russia and Qatar on the redistribution of the world market for "blue fuel". Thus, Podolyaka believes, gas is turning into a strategic weapon, and its suppliers will be able to prohibit consumers from reselling fuel to third countries. For example, what Germany is doing today with respect to the weapons that it once sold to the Balts. Berlin forbade reselling it to Ukraine.

The Europeans were in zugzwang. Whatever decision they make, they, as the common people say, will find themselves ... in one cramped and dark place.

- the expert emphasized.
  • Used photographs: PJSC "Gazprom"
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  1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 2 February 2022 21: 16
    +6
    Maybe "blackmail" is not quite the correct term in this context,

    Uh-huh.
    Russia "does not want to put all its eggs in one basket" will be more correct, and closer to life.
    Europe turned out to be a bad and unconstructive partner, prone to political chimeras.

    Under these conditions, rapidly developing Asia and specifically China with a huge sales market look more attractive and predictable today.

    business, nothing personal. smile

    PS American gas carriers rushing to Asia will not let you lie ...
  2. Blast Offline Blast
    Blast (Vladimir) 3 February 2022 08: 20
    +3
    The "instrument of influence" in this case is the market itself, which "decides everything", as it is very much loved in the West, so let them "butt" with China at prices. Connecting the gas transmission system of Russia in the western and eastern parts is generally an internal affair of Russia, and probably it is cost-effective even just as a separate project. But it is clear that it is desirable to link all this with the second branch to China.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 3 February 2022 08: 48
      +3
      Moreover, China has accumulated 3 trillion dollars, which they do not know where to shove. They don't skimp on gas prices. And the EU in this case will be thinner. They, like in the USSR, will soon run out of money to support the Tribaltics, Poles and other Romanians.
  3. Miffer Offline Miffer
    Miffer (Sam Miffers) 3 February 2022 08: 21
    -4
    "...may be signed...", "...may announce...", "...may repeat...".
    A coming out blogger from the city of Sumy ... a descendant of the "Sumy Cossacks" Podolyak (yarzhunimaguuuuu!) lol, another expert and authority laughing.
    1. Starik59 Offline Starik59
      Starik59 (Starik) 3 February 2022 20: 48
      0
      here he was trying to tell something about energy to Martsinkevich Bora - that's where the laughter is! (It's on YouTube!)
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 February 2022 09: 49
    -4
    For some reason, no one writes how hard it is for Asians that gas prices are such that all gas goes there.
    In Europe, like prices are lower all the same, which means things are better.

    Forces of Siberia-1, they wrote, with problems, it's time to divide the skin of the future "Forces of Siberia-2"
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 3 February 2022 19: 16
      0
      For some reason, no one writes how hard it is for Asians that gas prices are such that all gas goes there.
      In Europe, like prices are lower all the same, which means things are better.

      Maybe the Asians are simply not burdened with all sorts of stupid projects like "green energy", they do not need to finance unprofitable assets like the "tribaltic" and they simply have more money?
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 February 2022 21: 37
        0
        Ага.
        Heat, humidity, A bunch of wildly rich "Baltic people" - Cambodians, Taiwanese, Mnyan, Vietnamese and the like ....

        Therefore, they definitely have more money, and there are no stupid projects ....
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 3 February 2022 21: 51
          0
          Ага.
          Heat, humidity, A bunch of wildly rich "Baltic people" - Cambodians, Taiwanese, Mnyan, Vietnamese and the like ....

          Tell us which type of organization EC in Asia contains at its own expense all the "cambodias, taiwant, mnyana, vietnam and the like" you have listed ??? repeat

          PS I understand your pain, but with a big nix, the first thing they do is drop most unnecessary.
          And he's not even far away. smile
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 February 2022 08: 04
            0
            EU Asia? Your ideas, you write

            In the meantime, 123 gave a link to an economic site, where the Baltic countries (2x for some reason) have the highest production growth.

            Maybe it's better to dream up about poor Italy, Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Ireland?
            Yes, they don’t write something, how are they there, without gas ....

            Since no one wants to talk about Asia with wild gas prices ....
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 4 February 2022 19: 30
              +1
              In the meantime, 123 gave a link to an economic site, where the Baltic countries (2x for some reason) have the highest production growth.

              The growth of industrial production in no way cancels EU subsidies. These citizens are still EU backbones and live beyond their means.
              By the way, the results of 2021 have not yet been published there, apparently they are embarrassed. Industrial production does not happen without energy, and it has risen in price decently, obviously the pace will fall.
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 February 2022 20: 10
                0
                It's a matter of life. Grants as grants. And Corona, and rising prices. Everyone has.

                A question of comparison - who has more, who needs more,

                In general, it’s interesting about the east, about Europe, many unsubscribed ....
            2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
              Ulysses (Alexey) 4 February 2022 20: 22
              -2
              EU Asia? Your ideas, you write

              In the meantime, 123 gave a link to an economic site, where the Baltic countries (2x for some reason) have the highest production growth.

              Asia did not think of giving itself a headache in the form of a European collective farm.
              The leadership of which is generally appointed, apparently from Washington.
              And rightly so.

              Where can one see the fruits of this "high growth in production"??
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 February 2022 23: 35
                0
                Didn't think so.
                There are enough problems of their own, and gas prices are higher there.
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 4 February 2022 19: 20
      +1
      Forces of Siberia-1, they wrote, with problems, it's time to divide the skin of the future "Forces of Siberia-2"

      And what are the problems with the Power of Siberia-1? As for the second, this is a prospect of about 5 years. Up to this point, the mutual dependence remains. Europe cannot replace Russian gas, Russia cannot redirect it to Asia. LNG and that is seasonal. Year-round operation of the Northern Sea Route is planned for 2024.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 February 2022 20: 09
        0
        In general, the plans are optimistic, but they are for the future
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 5 February 2022 14: 22
          +1
          In general, the plans are optimistic, but they are for the future

          Plans are always about the future. It makes no sense to plan for the present and the past.
          Reorientation to the Asian market requires serious investments and takes a lot of time. But the fact that more gas is needed there is unequivocal. The other day we signed another contract. The project will probably work faster. There, in my opinion, part of the pipeline has already been built, and it is not so far from Sakhalin to Vladivostok.

          Moscow and Beijing signed a 25-year contract for the supply of natural gas via the Far East route during Vladimir Putin's visit to China. The volume is up to 10 billion cubic meters of gas per year.

          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5204158
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 February 2022 17: 55
            0
            it is right. Did you say the price?
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 6 February 2022 11: 37
              +1
              it is right. Did you say the price?

              Do not believe it, as usual, such details of contracts are not disclosed, a trade secret.
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 February 2022 20: 03
                -1
                An article appeared next to it that there was a gag with the SS-2. Not signed yet.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 6 February 2022 21: 33
                  +1
                  An article appeared next to it that there was a gag with the SS-2. Not signed yet.

                  Didn't sign with who? What is the name of the article? If it's about...

                  Why instead of the "Power of Siberia-2" China chose the project "Power of Siberia-3"

                  then the article does not say a word about the fact that the "SS-2" was abandoned. By the way, my question is under that article

                  Why instead? Was the gas pipeline through Mongolia abandoned?

                  remained unanswered.
                  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 February 2022 23: 05
                    0
                    It's simple: they didn't sign.
                    As if there is a chance, but .... the promises have so far puffed ...
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 7 February 2022 08: 33
                      +1
                      It's simple: they didn't sign.
                      As if there is a chance, but .... the promises have so far puffed ...

                      Who didn't sign what? What promises were made?
                      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 February 2022 09: 13
                        0
                        2-3 sentence of this article.
                      2. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 7 February 2022 14: 44
                        +1
                        2-3 sentence of this article.

                        Are you talking about this?

                        During the meeting between the Russian president and Xi Jinping, an agreement may be signed to launch the Power of Siberia-2 project. According to expert and journalist Yuri Podolyaka, Russia and China may announce several breakthrough agreements in the gas and oil sectors.

                        What's wrong? We signed on gas from Sakhalin, we also agreed on oil, Rosneft will supply it. "The Power of Siberia-2" is a prospect, not soon, not tomorrow, not in a year. At least 5 years, rather 5-8. During this time, you will hear more than once how everything was leaked, promised and not built, then they will write that the gas is given away for free and does not pay off. Everything is as usual.
                      3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 February 2022 22: 48
                        -2
                        In real life - to shoot the promises.

                        "Power of Siberia-2" unties the hands of Russia and at the same time binds them to Europe

                        The Power of Siberia-2 "is a prospect, not soon, not tomorrow, not in a year. At least 5 years, rather 5-8.
                      4. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 8 February 2022 13: 25
                        +1
                        In real life - to shoot the promises.

                        There are no contradictions here. The resource base is the same. From there it will be possible to choose whether to direct the gas to the west or to the east. The project is large-scale, expensive, the implementation period is decent, but for now it is used as an argument in bargaining with the Europeans. Those pretend that they can do without Russian gas, and Russia pretends that it can do without their sales market. At this stage, this is not possible. It is possible to redirect gas from the European direction only partially, there is simply no other infrastructure for its transportation.
                        In my understanding, the situevina looks something like this. The Europeans expected that Gazprom had nowhere to go and would in any case drive gas to them, and there they underestimate spot prices and take gas practically at cost. Gazprom has somewhat different plans. He needs long-term contracts and a guaranteed sales market in order to plan investments, understand how much gas they will produce. To extract and store somewhere looking for buyers is an idea.
                        I will say more, suppose the SS-2 is completed, the contract with the Chinese is signed and it is fully loaded. The volume of pumping to the west and east will approximately coincide. It turns out that the situation does not change. There are no changes in the European direction, we have the same volumes and the absence of an alternative.
                        For sure, the volume of production will be increased not by 2 times (in order to fill the SS-2), but somewhat less. What is provided by SS-2 + what is provided by long-term contracts (Hungary, Serbia, partly Germany, etc.) + some volumes to the spot market. Well, by that time, regular year-round transportation along the Northern Sea Route (approximately 2024) will start working, part of the gas will go by gas carriers to choose from in Asia or Europe. It will be a slightly different reality. In the meantime, the task of Gazprom is to keep its milk in the European market, not to give it to Qatar, the United States and other smaller players (for example, from the Israeli shelf through Turkey).
                      5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 February 2022 14: 20
                        -2
                        It's not beer that kills people (base), it's water that kills people (promises)
  • Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 3 February 2022 17: 35
    -2
    Only LNG could provide real flexibility for Russia. The Chinese can also blackmail by forcing low prices. So far, it is still not clear who will finance the Mongolian rather big section. Obviously not the Mongols)
    1. Starik59 Offline Starik59
      Starik59 (Starik) 3 February 2022 20: 51
      -1
      Are you applying for Podolia? Nook, explain! HOW DOES IT PROVIDE?? Freak...
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 3 February 2022 21: 23
      -1
      Only LNG could provide true flexibility for Russia.

      Russia's Arctic icebreaker fleet is not being built for tourists.
      On the northern sea route, you can go left, or you can go right.

  • Starik59 Offline Starik59
    Starik59 (Starik) 3 February 2022 20: 43
    0
    Well, Podolyaka is the one ... Another that expert !!
  • EMMM Offline EMMM
    EMMM 3 February 2022 23: 22
    0
    Let's be realistic.
    1. Gas is the cleanest fuel available today.
    2. Real-life exports provide such profits that the cost of new gas pipelines can be written off as a "minor shortage."
    3. The "Power of Siberia", especially through Mongolia, can make it possible to supply gas through China and Russian coastal ports for subsequent liquefaction and deliveries throughout the Southeast Pacific and Indian Oceans, where no one is waiting for us.
    And lastly, if anyone watched Vesti today, the Englishwoman complained about gas prices, briefly showed the bill of 112 pounds, or 10 thousand rubles in our opinion, but it must be taken into account that their houses are heated by their own gas boilers. I calculated, we pay 1000 rubles for gas. and 5500 for heating. But the income is different.
    1. Ruriks127 Offline Ruriks127
      Ruriks127 (Ivan) 4 February 2022 07: 56
      +1
      Dear, do you heat Navalny's barracks for this money? Or "Putin's Palace"?
      1. EMMM Offline EMMM
        EMMM 9 February 2022 23: 04
        0
        Three-room apartment in St. Petersburg, heating from the local boiler house TGK-1 (owned by Gazprom).
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 February 2022 05: 53
    +1
    Quote: EMMM
    I calculated, we pay 1000 rubles for gas. and 5500 for heating.

    You counted a lot. Or is it an annual cost?