Russian submarines with Zircons could be stationed in Puerto Cabello

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One of the hottest topics of discussion in recent weeks has been the possible deployment of Russian military bases in the Caribbean as a symmetrical US response to their entry into Ukraine. However, neither Cuba, nor Venezuela, nor Nicaragua showed public enthusiasm for such prospects, and a combined detachment of six large landing ships of the Baltic and Northern fleets, sailing with an unknown cargo, turned not to the Island of Freedom, but to the Mediterranean. Not this time.

Does the above mean that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will no longer have its military bases in the southern underbelly of the United States? Not certainly in that way. The key question is what exactly is considered a military base, and why exactly do we need it.



If you look at the "hegemon", the United States has a huge number of military bases abroad, used to control the countries it occupies, as well as springboards for potential aggression against neighboring countries. So, for example, the deployment of American nuclear missiles in Ukraine will pose an existential threat to Russia, given the shortest flight time to Moscow and our other megacities. In addition, American occupiers in the same Germany or Japan still have extraterritorial status and are not subject to local jurisdiction.

Do we need something similar to Russia, and most importantly, do the Latin American countries themselves need foreign military bases, including Russian ones, to be located on their territory?

Probably not. As we have detailed discussed, our nuclear missiles are not needed either in Cuba or in Venezuela. The first was interested in normalizing relations with the neighboring United States, and the second assumed the corresponding obligations under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons in Latin America. And what is the special practical meaning of medium-range missiles with nuclear warheads in the Caribbean? During the Soviet period, they were placed in Cuba due to purely technical issues, since only from the Island of Freedom of the USSR Ministry of Defense could they be guaranteed to shoot through the entire American "heartland". Today, modern intercontinental ballistic missiles will reach the United States without any problems.

That is, nuclear missiles or Tu-160 strategic missile carriers in Cuba or Venezuela - this is necessary purely for the image, in order to show the media a picture: to scare the average layman with the fact that this same Russian missile from a ground-based launcher or from the suspension of the "White Swan". At the same time, the construction, security and subsequent maintenance of a full-fledged military base abroad in the Caribbean will be a rather expensive “pleasure” and a difficult task in terms of logistics. Then what options are there if the Russian base is not expected there at all?

Let's forget about Cuba for the moment, from which we voluntarily and short-sightedly left, and think about Venezuela, which seems a little more realistic. Yes, the deployment of foreign military bases on its territory is directly prohibited in the country's Constitution. President Nicolas Maduro is not eager to rewrite the Basic Law for the sake of Russia. But what if we agree with Caracas on a “base without a base”?

If anyone is not in the know, then Venezuela has its own naval forces, including the navy itself, naval aviation, coast guards and marines. The National Bolivarian Navy has 6 Lupo-class frigates, 3 Vosper 37m.-class/Federación-class missile patrol boats, 3 Vosper 37m. LST/Capana class, 4 Ciudad Bolívar-class supply ship and 1 Type 2 diesel-electric submarines.

It is about the latter that I would like to talk in more detail. The Venezuelan Navy has 10 bases, the main of which are Caracas, where the headquarters is located, and Puerto Cabello, where all frigates and both German-made diesel-electric submarines are deployed. Puerto Cabello is a large modern port on the Caribbean coast of Triste Bay, with a shipyard and repair docks. It may be of interest to Russia if the practice of using the Vietnamese harbor of Cam Ranh in the Pacific Ocean is extended to it, from which we also imprudently and short-sightedly left, as well as from Cuba.
In 2013, an agreement was reached with Hanoi on the establishment of a joint base in Cam Ranh for the maintenance and repair of submarines, and in 2014, an agreement was reached on the simplified use of the Vietnamese port by Russian warships.

With mutual desire, Caracas and Moscow could agree to open a joint training and repair center for Venezuelan and Russian submarines in Puerto Cabello. Our submariners could share their experience with their Latin American colleagues, and at the same time serve diesel-electric submarines and even nuclear submarines. Recall that the Varshavyanka diesel-electric submarines can carry Caliber cruise missiles, which, in turn, can be equipped with a nuclear warhead. The presence of such submarines in the Caribbean will be a deterrent. If, however, Russian Yasen nuclear submarines carrying Zircon hypersonic missiles, presumably equipped with a nuclear warhead, begin to regularly drop in and get into the frame in Puerto Cabello, the Americans will become even more anxious.

Thus, at minimal cost, Russia could designate a very real threat to the "hegemon" in its southern underbelly without directly violating the norms of the Venezuelan constitution.
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  1. 0
    31 January 2022 18: 18
    Brothers Ortega - these are our people: they will not be forgiven from the amers! So we set up bases in Nicaragua: one sea, the second land with a tank army to capture America!
  2. -1
    31 January 2022 21: 16
    ... the deployment of American nuclear missiles in Ukraine will represent existential threat For Russia ...

    Sounds solid, but in fact it makes no sense.
  3. +1
    31 January 2022 21: 29
    Wah! what an idea!
    In fact - the proposal of a mini-Caribbean crisis. How many rockets were there in Cuba?

    And then again, and pop up off the coast of Venezuela 2va Ash.

    The press is shouting guard, and the military and industrialists are gleefully rubbing their hands: new orders, new warheads, new Apl and AUg ....
    1. -4
      1 February 2022 07: 44
      Wah! what an idea!
      In fact - the proposal of a mini-Caribbean crisis. How many rockets were there in Cuba?

      And then again, and pop up off the coast of Venezuela 2va Ash.

      Great idea. We are proud that our nuclear submarines are already on duty in the Gulf of Mexico. And the crisis hasn't happened yet.

      The press is shouting guard, and the military and industrialists are gleefully rubbing their hands: new orders, new warheads, new Apl and AUg ....

      Isn't that what we're trying to achieve? To shout the guard?
      And what about AUG? Let's drown for once.
      1. +1
        1 February 2022 11: 02
        In general you are right, but not in details.

        You never know who carries where. duty. And the op begins when someone flies somewhere, swims, sticks at the borders

        And guard, let's allocate another 60 lard for a new round of the arms race ....
        1. -3
          1 February 2022 11: 23
          So she, the race, has been going on for a long time. Here the question is about our answers, expensive or budget. This form of cooperation with Venezuela is the most rational in terms of the ratio of investments and results.
          1. +1
            1 February 2022 11: 29
            Predicted result:
            Allocation of another 60 MLR to the Amerovo military-industrial complex.
            Placement of 2 additional Amer bases in Latin America.
            The introduction of new sanctions against Russia, Cuba, Venezuela.
            The war in Venezuela and the coup as a result.
            1. -3
              1 February 2022 11: 30
              Wow, cool. hi And what did Cuba do wrong?
              You see, it's easier to just give up with this attitude. Or don't give up and do what you have to. But do it seriously, for the result.
              1. 0
                1 February 2022 15: 40
                1) Yes, just like that, at the same time. Any Ugochaves went there? went. well, go ahead
                2) What for?
                Shine a submarine in a distant port among the crooked locals, and even trapped in the Caribbean Sea?
                To plant beacons? Yes, Congress allocated another 60 lard for armament?

                And there can only be one result. Raising the economy.
                Any renaming of the 1st space to hypersonic does not count.
                1. -2
                  1 February 2022 15: 40
                  Oh yes please
  4. +1
    31 January 2022 23: 46
    Well, this is already funny. I read the title of the article and call the name of the author. The writing style is very primitive. Could, perhaps, very likely, most likely, perhaps... The Russian language is great and powerful. He will endure a lot. But the Reporter portal is not an accumulator of political fiction. I would very much like to see not wet assumptions for which the author is paid, but real and sensible reflections tied to reality. Sorry, I didn't read the article. The next assumptions are not interesting. I'd rather read Tolkien. You yourself are not ashamed to carry such nonsense. You understand, we are not "people" who steal everything. Many of us are pupils with an education in the 80s, while yours is designed for half-downs. Sometimes sensible thoughts slip through your mind. So you can! So keep the level. I hope you understand my message correctly and the thirst for profit for the written articles will not outweigh common sense.
  5. -3
    1 February 2022 07: 40
    Well, this is already funny.

    Quote: Navigator
    Sorry, I didn't read the article. The next assumptions are not interesting. I'd rather read Tolkien. You yourself are not ashamed to carry such nonsense.

    Don't you think that there is some semantic contradiction here? Judge what you haven't read.
    Was it taught in the 80s? Reminds me of modern tik tokers with their clip thinking, to be honest.

    I hope you understand my message correctly and the thirst for profit for the written articles will not outweigh common sense.

    Ugly. From your side.

    The writing style is very primitive. Could, maybe, very likely, most likely, possibly...

    I am a basic lawyer and choose my wording carefully. For linguistic prettiness - to some of my colleagues.

    But the Reporter portal is not an accumulator of political fiction.

    If you were not rude, but read what was written, you would see that my fantastic assumptions are extremely realistic. Unlike a lot of what is written on the Reporter.

    Sometimes sensible thoughts slip through your mind. So you can! So keep the level.

    Thanks, of course. hi My advice: if you don't like it, don't read it. If the title immediately determines the author.
    And believe me, I have an excellent level. Not everyone is given this. smile The fact that he does not come personally to you is called taste.
    1. +1
      1 February 2022 07: 55
      I am a basic lawyer and choose my wording carefully.

      I have a faint hope that "basic lawyer" explain to the uninitiated the meaning of the phrase "existential threat". I guess this is something from the field of jurisprudence that only basic lawyers can know.
      1. -2
        1 February 2022 07: 56
        Use the search engine and find the answer. My working time is worth money.

        I have to discuss with people who carry this:

        deploying US nuclear missiles in Ukraine would pose an existential threat to Russia...

        Sounds great but doesn't really make sense..

        Just not interested.
        1. +1
          1 February 2022 08: 38
          Use the search engine and find the answer

          I used the search engine, trying to find the meaning of your other favorite word "proxy". The proxy server was present everywhere, but it did not give any explanation.

          Finally, I believe that a powerful "basic lawyer" like yourself should express his rich thoughts in such a way that their meaning is understandable to all non-lawyers.
  6. -2
    1 February 2022 08: 44
    Quote: Kim Rum Eun
    I used the search engine, trying to find the meaning of your other favorite word "proxy". The proxy server was present everywhere, but it did not give any explanation.

    I feel sorry for you.
    1. 0
      1 February 2022 09: 01
      And believe me, I have an excellent level. Not everyone is given this

      That's it! Not everyone can use words in speech, the meaning of which they do not know.
      I'll find out if this is an indicator of "excellent level".
      1. 0
        1 February 2022 09: 55
        Quote: Kim Rum Eun
        I'll find out if this is an indicator of "excellent level".

        Good luck.
        It is important that a person has some purpose in life. This contributes to his development and formation as a person. I believe in you, you will succeed.
        1. -2
          1 February 2022 14: 41
          EXISTENTIAL
          - determined by the subject's experience of his "being-in-the-world".
          - related to higher, semantic, rationally inexpressible values ​​and manifestations of human subjectivity.
          - this adjective is often used in modern theological and religious literature to denote something that is of the utmost importance for one's existence.
          - pertaining to the sense of existence.

          Conclusion: none of the above definitions of the adjective "existential" is categorically suitable for the phrase "existential threat", therefore, it is used by the author, comrade. Marzhetsky, arbitrarily, without reference to the context and without knowing the meaning of this word.
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          2. -3
            1 February 2022 15: 01
            The Golden Scallop Kim Rum Eun, especially for you:


            Do not cock more, you look funny. laughing
            1. 0
              1 February 2022 15: 13
              Thanks a lot. This funny character only distracts me from work. hi
            2. 0
              1 February 2022 15: 21
              The object is Russia, literate?
  7. -1
    1 February 2022 14: 46
    Quote: Kim Rum Eun
    EXISTENTIAL
    - determined by the subject's experience of his "being-in-the-world".
    - related to higher, semantic, rationally inexpressible values ​​and manifestations of human subjectivity.
    - this adjective is often used in modern theological and religious literature to denote something that is of the utmost importance for one's existence.
    - pertaining to the sense of existence.

    EXISTENTIAL - pertaining to the sense of existence (existence)
    An existential threat to the country (placement of nuclear missiles within a few minutes of flying to Moscow) = in this context, a threat to the existence of the country.
    Learn.
    1. -4
      1 February 2022 15: 12
      Perhaps it is difficult for a Romanian to pronounce this word, which is why he reacted like that? drinks
    2. 0
      1 February 2022 15: 19
      An existential threat to the country (placement of nuclear missiles within a few minutes of flying to Moscow) = in this context, a threat to the existence of the country.

      This is breg bregovy. In philosophy, we are talking about a PERSON, NOT A COUNTRY, so these are all stupid excuses.
      1. -2
        1 February 2022 15: 21
        And what about philosophy? You just don't know how to admit you're wrong. It just looks pitiful.
        1. 0
          1 February 2022 15: 27
          This is a purely philosophical term.
          1. 0
            1 February 2022 15: 31
            EXISTENTIAL
            pertaining to the sense of existence (existence). Existential philosophy is a psychological or moral description feelings of human existence in its concrete reality at the level public individual, such as it appears in a variety of situations (suffering, battle, mistake, and even in extreme situations - such as death). It differs from existential philosophy, which is a metaphysical analysis of the essential elements that make up existence, such as freedom, ignorance (wandering), the contingency of our presence, etc. Thus, existential philosophy, being diametrically opposed to rationalistic philosophy, describes specific situations of existence. Human he himself must give meaning to his life and become a rational and spiritual being. Hence, Human - only what he has made of himself through choice or voluntary decision and commitment. Thus, existential philosophy analyzes the universal features every human existence.
          2. -1
            1 February 2022 15: 42
            I have two higher educations, legal and journalistic. Both with honors. Currently getting a third as a political scientist.
            Get off, you're really tired already
          3. -1
            1 February 2022 15: 50
            This is a purely philosophical term.
            Is this proxy Marzhetsky here an educated and scientist? Behind-the-ear-correspondence pedagogical institute without interruption from "production"?. Don't make me so funny lol

            As I understand it, it was supposed to be a "finest hour" when the diploma of a philosopher was first useful?
            Alas, there was a shameful embarrassment. hi
        2. -1
          1 February 2022 15: 42
          Sergey, they cut off his stupid head, but he is still running around.
  8. 0
    2 February 2022 14: 05
    That is, this is an admission that no one in Latin America wants to have serious business with Russia, only help, and preferably free.