Donbass: Nobody wanted war - war was inevitable


Epigraph: "When sons of bitches come to power, everyone begins a dog's life!" (own observation)


I probably won't open America to anyone if I say that humanity develops in a spiral and history tends to repeat itself twice - once in the form of a tragedy, another time in the form of a farce. It seems to me that now, at a new historical stage, we are repeating the events of 80 years ago, preceding the beginning of the Second World War. And if then humanity plunged into a real tragedy, now we will most likely become participants in a cheap farce.

History teaches us only that it teaches nothing!


Everything says that we are on the eve of the war with Ukraine, this is evidenced by many factors that I will cite below, but an ordinary Russian and Ukrainian man in the street drives this idea away from himself. Russians with the words: “Yes, what are you telling us ?! We have been at war with Ukraine for 7 years now, we still cannot win, because we are not going to war. " And the Ukrainians are already so tired of the war that their country is waging with its northern neighbor exclusively from televisions and radios that they perceive it as white noise - there seems to be a war, but there are no consequences. So there is no war either!

The difference with the events of 80 years ago is only in the fact that then the Supreme leadership of the USSR in the person of Joseph Vissarionovich, realizing the inevitability of the impending war, tried in every possible way to delay it, went to the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact (in Europe better known as the Stalin-Hitler pact ), creating a buffer belt around the borders of the USSR from the newly annexed western territories (and they then helped Stalin not to lose the war in the first months of its summer campaign, when the Wehrmacht troops got bogged down in exhausting battles on the distant approaches to Moscow, but backfired after 80 years, when precisely these western territories of Ukraine and the Baltic States, which for half a century have not forgiven Stalin's annexation, became hotbeds of terrifying Russophobia), but, nevertheless, the same top leadership until the last moment did not believe in the possibility of the start of the war on June 22, 1941 years, although Stalin was reported from various sources about its beginning, up to the exact hour and date of the offensive of the German troops. But Stalin could not believe that Hitler had outwitted him and would start a military campaign even without winter ammunition. But Hitler, nevertheless, started it, intending to end the war within 3-4 months. Blitz Krieg, Plan Barbarossa - you know all this without me. How it ended for both too. Stalin then in the first two weeks of the war fell into a stupor, the situation on all fronts developed catastrophically, we lost in the very first hours of the war half of the regular staff of aviation, which the Germans bombed right on the airfields, the top of the Red Army was beheaded by pre-war purges and repressions, some military leaders were sent to the active army directly from the cells of the NKVD detention center, and instead of Stalin at that time, Molotov and Yuri Levitan spoke.

The current top leadership of the Russian Federation does not have any illusions about Kiev, it is well aware of its plans, and has recently been making titanic efforts to avoid a negative development of events for itself. The only difference is that they cannot change anything. The key to this box is in the hands of Washington, and no Berlin or Paris can influence the possessed Kiev any longer. The recent online talks of the Normandy Four in the mode of videoconference (without Zelensky) at the highest level only confirmed this. Neither Merkel nor Macron have any influence on Kiev. Merkel is generally an outgoing nature and dreams of jumping off this armored train flying downhill as soon as possible, cursing the day when she, having sat down at the wheel of her German vacuum cleaner, contacted Putin and the construction of the SP-2. Lavrov's negotiations with his Chinese counterpart also did not end with anything, Beijing is going to continue to sit on the shore and wait for the corpses of its enemies - the United States and the Russian Federation - float past (I hope no one here believes the Chinese assurances that the Russians and the Chinese are brothers forever, we they heard it 65 years ago under Mao Zedong, how it ended, they also have not forgotten).

We can objectively hope that now we will be shown a cheap farcical copy of the tragedy of 1941, if it were not for the consequences for the Russian Federation that would follow right after it. The funny thing is that neither in 1941 nor in 2021 did the people fully believe in the possibility of an impending war. Then, under the influence of Soviet propaganda, we were generally going to fight on foreign territory and grind the tank armies of Manstein and Guderian with cavalry saber attacks. The more severe was the disappointment when, leading bloody battles, the Red Army rolled back to the East in front of the advancing Army Groups "North" and "Center" of Fyodor von Bock and Wilhelm von Leeb. Now I, too, was amazed at the reaction of the Russians to my last textdedicated to the upcoming events in the near future and the catastrophic consequences that the Russian Federation may receive as a result. People were just blowing at me, telling me that I was an agent of the SBU and my place on Censor.net, not believing in the possibility of such an outcome, knowing exactly how this could end for Kiev. Putin has also more than once already verbalized the possible outcome of this confrontation, trying to warn Kiev against rash actions. But the end of statehood does not seem to scare the enraged territory under external control at all. Why worry about what is not? What kind of statehood and sovereignty? Ukraine has already forgotten what it is. Zelensky and his entourage are completely dependent on making such decisions. They will say to attack the Donbass or Crimea, they will do it. What difference does it make how many Ukrainians or Russians will die? But these comrades will spend the rest of their shitty days in abundance and abundance somewhere in Washington or London, like the government of Ukraine in exile (the Polish government also felt good in 1939-45 in hospitable London, "leading" from there the resistance of those who remained in the occupied territory Poles in fascist Germany).

Therefore, the current leadership of Ukraine does not care at all where Putin's tanks will stop, even on the left bank of the Dnieper, even on the right bank of the Southern Bug. But the consequences of this for the Russian Federation will be more than catastrophic - Iron Curtain 2.0. and defeat in rights as a rogue country with all that it implies. We risk going back to the 80s when our limited contingent entered the DRA. Disconnection from SWIFT, arrest and blocking of all our accounts and assets in the West, with the blocking of all financial and other transport flows (goodbye to the unfinished SP-2 and other SP-1, Yamal-EU, I am not even talking about the Ukrainian pipe), a ban on exchange technology, the supply of spare parts and components, for the maintenance and repair of our foreign-made aircraft fleet (in our country, half of it are Boeings and Airbuses, who will extend their air resource?). This I sketch only the first thing that comes to mind, every little thing like a sport, a flag, an anthem, doping, just forget it - there will be no time for them.

But the United States will straighten its shoulders - finally, they will have a real, not a fake enemy with whom they will be able to fight for decades to come, rallying the entire civilized world under the banner of this struggle, which will be forced to close its ranks around the world hegemon again. The decrepit Biden will finally rally his nation against the threat of an external enemy and will do what he has always done well - the fight against the Soviet-Russian threat, and NATO will regain its meaning of existence. The world will become bipolar again and fall at the feet of the United States. And if this requires some kind of Ukraine to attack the Russian Federation, then consider that it has already done this. The sense of self-preservation is the last thing that is inherent in our non-brothers.

Moreover, I draw your attention to the fact that they will act exclusively in accordance with the norms of international law, restoring their territorial integrity. They are going to fight on their territory. Whose Crimea, have you not forgotten yet? And whose Donbass? Remember the recent events in Nagorno-Karabakh, I somehow did not hear the voices of the international community, outraged by the actions of Baku. They have a right! A bad example is contagious, especially when your friends-comrades from Washington and London are pushing you to this, supplying you with military instructors and words of support, and through Comrade Saakov, excuse me, through Comrade. Erdogan is also being supplied with drones. We can only guess whether Kiev will launch an offensive against the Donbass or immediately against the Crimea so that Moscow does not get rid of the PMC. At the same time, I do not exclude an imitation of an attack by the "green men" on themselves, as Hitler did in 1939, staging an attack by Heydrich's men dressed in Polish military uniforms on a German radio station in Gleiwitz during Operation Canned Food, initiating an excuse to start WWII. Right there, Ukraine doesn't even need a pretext, it already has all the international rights to restore its territorial integrity. Even if the first one starts. We are in a stalemate. We cannot fail to defend Donbass (I’m not even talking about Crimea!) (They will not understand this, first of all, within the Russian Federation), but we are also unable to prevent the invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on its territory. Ukraine is acting in its own right, restoring the lost territorial integrity.

There are a whole bunch of markers for that. I'm just tired of talking about them already. Starting with "Putin the killer", which was dropped by Biden by no chance (do you believe in such accidents?), And ending with the echelons of military equipment that Kiev drives along the contact line without any camouflage in the daytime. And if we add here all the nonsense that flows from the pro-government Kiev matyugalniks warning the population about possible provocations of the northern deranged neighbor, and the laws adopted by the Rada on the total mobilization of the male and even female population liable for military service under 60, then the oil painting will be complete - Kiev is preparing for war, and not sometime tomorrow or next year, but right now. The time before it started went for months, either May or June (hopefully not the 22nd).

As the classic said: "Nobody wanted war, war was inevitable!" The worst, as a rule, happens when he is not expected at all and when it seems that the worst is over. As history teaches us, when everyone says - tomorrow is June 22, graduation party, and then summer, then, as a rule, the war begins ...

When you tell me how it will end for Kiev and where Putin's tanks will stop, I want to ask you - do not waste your time, I know, and Zelensky also knows. But he does not start this war. And not to win it. They begin to lose it, refuting the famous assertion of Karl von Clausewitz that "the war is fought to the point of victory, period." This war is started to be defeated. Moreover, everyone will lose - both Ukraine, the Russian Federation, and the EU, only the United States will win, moreover, without sacrificing any of its soldiers for this. It will be a brilliant victory for the senile Biden, worthy of being recorded in the annals of history. Why such a brilliant move did not occur to Trump, I do not know. One move with the pawn "Ukraine" - and America is in the kings.

You may ask me: “What has changed? What happened in the world that right now Kiev has become more active in this direction? Why didn't this happen a year or two ago? What did Moscow do to trigger this trigger? " My answer is that Moscow hasn't done anything like that! Everything that she could not do, she did not do in 2014, recognizing in fact a coup in Ukraine, and for the sake of her economic interests, continuing to cooperate with the fascist regime established there, instead of burying it, preserving the Yanukovych regime for herself. (as she did 7 years later with the Lukashenka regime in Belarus). Now he just returned to the White House after leaving for 4 years personally participating in the events of 2014 in Ukraine, Biden, and decided that the gun that he hung up in Act 1 should finally fire in Act 4. Otherwise, why did he hang it up?

Markers that speak about how serious all this is, and how it all can end, I will give in the next text - it did not fit here. Not saying goodbye.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) April 5 2021 08: 38
    +1
    it already has all international rights to restore its territorial integrity.

    Gaddafi also had all the international rights to restore his territorial integrity, and what did NATO members do with him?
  2. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) April 5 2021 09: 12
    +3
    It's like that. But the NATO bases in Kharkov, Chernigov and, say, in Kherson are even worse. Only Putin can think that this will not happen. And what will become of Ukraine supported by NATO bases? The entire European part of the Russian Federation is under attack within 5 minutes. Crimea, Rostov, Belgorod - instantly. Complete military dictatorship over Russia.
    1. Traktorbekov Urulu (Maksim) April 17 2021 13: 34
      0
      Do not think Putin is stupider than yourself.
  3. andrew42 Offline andrew42
    andrew42 (Andrei) April 5 2021 10: 43
    +4
    The Iron Curtain is certainly bad. But the main thing here is not to be scared to death. Otherwise, the country will die prematurely :) No silver lining - there will be an iron curtain - then you will have to return to socialism, nationalize at last large industrial and mining enterprises, devote small heads to caps. managers who have stuck to the resources of the country. The logic is simple, if you got off the train, you have to roll up your sleeves and build your own vehicle. Without the situation of the 1920s-1930s "Soviet Russia in a ring of enemies" there would have been no industrialization, so the Trotskyists would have continued to bawl under red banners. I terribly do not want to strain again and to strain everyone who does not want to forcibly, but apparently we will have to if we want to have our own country.
    1. Ivan Ivanov_20 Offline Ivan Ivanov_20
      Ivan Ivanov_20 (Ivan Ivanov) April 11 2021 18: 26
      +3
      In-in ... Everything that we have in mind will still do. So you have to hit first.
      And what restrictions does the author say? The share of the Russian Federation in gas in the EU is 35%. Will a third of Europe just stand up? :)))
      Will they carry suitcases for gas? This means that a bank is immediately organized in Cyprus, linking the financial system. settlements in Russia (long ago created to replace Swift) with EU banks.
      Yes, and what technologies have the West transferred to Russia over the past 10 years? It is very interesting because I've never heard of one ...
      Well, so that there is no thought to limit the Russian Federation in the sale of oil, who prevents the transfer of good rackets (with crews) to the Houthis in Yemen and sinking heels of supertankers in the Strait of Hormuz,
      bringing down the world's energy market ...
      What else will sanctions be announced to us? Will they be disconnected from Swift the second time?
      Rackets can still be placed on a cube and in Venezuela up to a heap, instead of Ukraine, what can we lose? :)))
      It is not worth driving Russia into a corner - it is fraught. The leadership would have enough will ...
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  4. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 5 2021 10: 47
    +6
    Some points of the article are perplexing. Especially passages about the Great Patriotic War. But this has been so much discussed that I see no reason to repeat my objections.
    My comment only on the consequences of the 2021 war (so far hypothetical). The author has painted the economic consequences for the Russian Federation colorfully. And most likely true. But does not consider the economic consequences for the West. What will be the (economic) price for the West? Despite the fact that the controlling stakes in the enterprises are in Western hands, the physical production is located in Russia. How the West will receive aluminum, titanium, timber, coal, steel, oil for American refineries, gas for Europe. There are no deliveries without payment.
    Politically, the Russian Federation will only benefit from solving the Ukrainian problem. It will cost money. A lot of money. But the game is worth the candle. The alternative is surrender.
    I am far from thinking that the opinions of individual people matter, but the general mood of the population, the Russian leadership is simply obliged to take into account. And the general mood can be expressed like this.

    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 5 2021 13: 22
      -4
      about the passages regarding the Second World War in more detail, pzhlsta
      regarding oil for American refineries - it's not even funny, it is clear that you are a complete ignoramus in this matter
      everything else is a blow to the EU, the States to the light
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 5 2021 13: 46
        +2
        Enough has been written about the Second World War. There is no point in repeating. Where I am a "complete layman" is not for you to judge
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 5 2021 15: 07
          -4
          why shouldn't I be the judge? grew up. oil was supplied to American refineries during the period of aggravation of relations between the United States and Venezuela in order to replace its heavy grades of oil, now with the arrival of Biden the problem has resolved, Venezuelan oil is again going to Texas and Louisiana refineries. And the number grew. oil delivered to the American market was minimal (about 100 thousand tons). What kind of addiction are we talking about?
          Regarding the Second World War, no one is going to argue with you, just indicate what exactly did not suit you? purely out of curiosity
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 5 2021 16: 01
            +3
            Stalin knew that the war would begin on June 22. Stalin did not fall into any stupor. He actively led the country's defense. He learned the exact date and time of the attack a few hours before the start of the war. That the border battle would be lost, Stalin knew by the evening of June 22. And he took action. How Stalin prepared the country for war for the current rulers to learn and learn.
            About oil. The fact that the United States has increased purchases of heavy varieties is no secret. And what can grow from Canada is also possible. But besides oil, there is aluminum, titanium, steel. How will the States pay for shipments if a full embargo is introduced? And how will they receive all this? Uranium has already stopped receiving (I hope so).
            Many people write about horror films for the Russian economy. Nobody talks about the horror movies of the Western economy. War is a costly business. For all. But in the USSR there was a principle "we will not stand up for the price." Whether he stayed in the Russian Federation, that's what you need to write about. There was no such principle in the West.
          2. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 5 2021 16: 18
            0
            And the number grew. oil delivered to the American market was minimal (about 100 thousand tons).

            For many years, Russian oil and petroleum products accounted for less than 0,5% of US imports, but supplies have skyrocketed over the past decade. As a result, in 2020, Russian oil and petroleum products accounted for a record 7% of supplies to the United States, the agency reports. Russia supplied an average of 538 thousand barrels per day, while Saudi Arabia supplied 522 thousand barrels.
            In the first half of 2020, the export of petroleum products from Russia to the United States reached a maximum in 16 years, amounting to 9,1 million tons in physical terms.

            https://www.rbc.ru/business/25/03/2021/605c00659a79470cbd5a760b
    2. Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) April 6 2021 21: 18
      +3
      Thanks for song. The topic and the topic of the day.
    3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 7 2021 13: 03
      -1
      Quote: Bakht
      And the general mood can be expressed like this.

      You are wrong, public opinion (meaningful) is determined by 40-50 year old housewives. These housewives don't care about Ukraine and NATO, if only there was no war.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) April 8 2021 10: 53
        0
        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        ... public opinion (meaningful) is determined by 40-50 year old housewives.

        Oleg Rambover, what century do you live in, where is your sound mind? Today there are almost no housewives left. yes
  5. Design Ovragov Offline Design Ovragov
    Design Ovragov April 5 2021 11: 40
    +5
    back in 2014, they warned about the end of all his Cunning Plans and shameful multi-moves ...
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 5 2021 13: 27
    +1
    If the LDNR remains a tense buffer zone, then it means that someone has and needs it.
    And the opinion of the author does not roll here.

    3-2-1 a year ago, everywhere, and here too, the bravura "we can repeat", "roll and roll" sounded.
    So what has changed?
    A manual?
  7. Petya Bystrov Offline Petya Bystrov
    Petya Bystrov (Petya Bystrov) April 5 2021 17: 02
    +1
    https://aftershock.news/?q=node%2F964013&full#.YGoB-2130IM.twitter
    There are a lot of options, the author is a supercharger.
  8. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) April 5 2021 18: 07
    -4
    It will be a brilliant victory for the senile Biden, worthy of being recorded in the annals of history. Why such a brilliant move did not occur to Trump, I do not know. One move with the pawn "Ukraine" - and America is in the kings.

    - And ... - an absolute and purest victory ...
    - Personally, I have already written that the "de_b_lo_id_" and "come_ rk_ov_at_ty" politician Trump, as a result of his rule, simply threw the United States back 15-20 years ... - And the Americans lost to China everything that could be lost. ..
    - But these are Americans, this is the USA ... - what do we (it would seem) care about them ...
    - But no ... - during this seemingly successful period for Russia ... - and Russia, under the leadership of our guarantor, managed to put itself in a "state of zugzwang" (this is a situation in which any player's move leads to a deterioration in his position). ...
    - And the result is such that Russia simply found itself in a vice ... - And this vice ... - Syria, Karabakh, Ukraine, China ... and SP-2 ... - SP-2 has long ceased to be an economic factor for Russia; and long ago passed into the category of a political factor ...
    - And what should Russia do with all this now ??? - It's just hard to come up with ...
    - In Russia, with its crumbling production; a stunted economy; with a weakly armed army and no navy; with the collapsed dream of dominating the world market as a monopoly in the supply of Russian gas (and including LNG) all over the world and dominating the world space as a kind of world unsurpassed manager-manager in this critical area ... ... - there is only one way out ...
    - And there is only one way out ... - This is to completely go under the protectorate of China; fully orient their further existence to all the nuances of the Chinese economy and politics; with a corresponding loss of independent decision-making in the military field, in industry, in the field of creating any new technologies and advances in the field of all scientific research and scientific research ... - And, of course ... - no independent financial activity. .. - Ie - today's Belarus in relation to Russia is just an independent sovereign state; but who (or what) Russia will become in relation to China ... is simply a "vassal and suzerain" ...
    - Well, it will probably be possible to leave and maintain the "Potemkin villages" ... - "Mkadovskaya Moscow"; a number of towns near Moscow ... and the TV program "Field of Miracles" ...
    - Such is the "truth" approaching ...
    - My plus to the author of the article ...
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) April 6 2021 09: 24
      +1
      And this is only one way out ... - This is completely go under the protectorate of China

      China was under the protectorate of the USSR and grew into a full-fledged state. If the Chinese help Russia shoot corrupt officials, then maybe the economy will work better and the principles of socialism will again be raised on the shield?
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) April 6 2021 10: 06
        +1
        If the Chinese help Russia shoot corrupt officials

        - China has never helped anyone and is not going to help ... - all the more so today, when it has gained world overpower ... - military, economic, financial, etc.

        maybe the economy will work better and the principles of socialism will again be raised on the shield?

        - Today China is mistakenly continued to be considered a state with socialist economic systems; which, allegedly ... is headed by the Communist Party of China ...
        - It's like comparing the national socialism of fascist Germany and the socialist international order, the basis of the state of the USSR ...
        - In China today, everything is sharpened and focused only for the Chinese ... - for all other states and peoples ... - the Chinese simply do not care ... - All the further development of China provides for an increase in the growth of welfare and economic well-being exclusively for the Chinese ... -Other nations on earth for China no longer exist ... -China considers the rest of humanity only from the point of view ... -how much this "rest of humanity" China can use in its interests ... -About the same tasks and prospects built for myself and fascist Germany ...
        - And all this false socialism in China ... is just mimicry; temporary gilding; which will crumble very easily when China no longer needs to pretend to be a state of developed socialism; when his entire capitalist economic structure prevails and there will be no trace of the former communist rule ... - All the peoples of the world will work for China; and the Chinese will become simply the ruling nation on earth ...
        - This is the goal China pursues ... - And where is socialism here; internationalism; the unity of all workers on Earth and so on !!! ???
        - This is not the USSR; who took care of everyone at once ... - Alas ...
        1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
          Bulanov (Vladimir) April 6 2021 10: 15
          0
          Was that what they said at the 19th CCP Congress?
          1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
            gorenina91 (Irina) April 6 2021 12: 06
            0
            Was that what they said at the 19th CCP Congress?

            - It was whispered in your ear personally ... - But you, as always ... - in your in-ear headphones listened to a pastoral melodious song about "good neighbors" and "faithful partners" ... - and therefore only heard that you are more pleased to listen ...
            - Well, until the roasted rooster crowed ... - you can continue to listen to these songs ...
            1. Traktorbekov Urulu (Maksim) April 17 2021 14: 13
              0
              I agree with you about China - but not about Russia.

              Russia, with its crumbling production; a stunted economy; with a weakly armed army and no navy

              - nonsense. If you truly believe that Russia is dying, this does not mean that it is so.
              1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
                gorenina91 (Irina) April 17 2021 14: 40
                -2
                If you truly believe that Russia is dying, this does not mean that it is so.

                - It is sacred to believe ... - I personally have something ... - You need to believe in God and in all the best manifestations of life created by God's Grace ...
                - As for the "successful Russian production"; the entire Russian industry; the entire Russian military potential ... - the army, the navy (well, there's nothing to say about the navy ... - it's just laughter through tears); all the latest equipment, military electronics (their software), their own electronic sights (for our old tanks 30 years ago); our UAVs (our modern forces of the Aerospace Forces; which are replenished with 2-3 new samples per year) and so on and so on ... - there can be only one assessment of all this ...
                - You yourself ... - what do you think ... - is it possible to fight, make maneuvers, deliver unexpected strikes and carry out deep disorientation of the enemy equipped with the latest electronic warfare and electronic warfare equipment and instantly build a whole system of programs that provides pinpoint strikes and the destruction of the enemy ?? ? - We have our own unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) cannot be put into production in any way ... - we buy all Austrian engines for them ... - and we are trying to remake them for our own ... and set up our production ...
                - Or do you want to "fight with paratroopers on armor" ... - who were seated and set off ... - everything for everyone at a glance ... - "live targets" ...
                - Well, well ... - and then the next bondarchuk and others like them ... - will shoot the next dashing films ... - a 'la "9 Roth", "Thunderstorm Gate" and so on ... - And everything is sewn - covered ... - as always ...
        2. andrew42 Offline andrew42
          andrew42 (Andrei) April 14 2021 17: 07
          +2
          Everything is true about China. Namely "to pretend to be a state of developed socialism." In order to realize this, you have to live there for a year or two. And so - it is useless to explain - the sofa intellectuals will continue to believe in the mythical "communist China". China is the Middle Empire, - Zhong Guo, surrounded by vassals and peripheral states of different "Laowai" there. The system is national capitalism, the only difference from Germany in 1933 is that there is still enough living space, and the "American" TNCs are monitoring the integrity of the leash, periodically tightening it up, checking whether it is intact. Philosophy is deep Taoism, varnished by Confucianism. Ideology is a communist signboard, a real manual is pragmatic capitalism with a nationalist imperative.
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  9. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) April 5 2021 18: 52
    0
    In the end, the question revolves around - "... will Putin personally decide to confront and (or) war?"
    By the way, now I wonder if Putin regretted that he passed back in 2014? ...
    Maybe he regretted it. (And my opinion is - Oh, hardly! He loves himself too much ...)
    Will hand over now. Who is threatening him? ... And what did you create, feed, and select Rosgvardia for? And what about the GAS elections? Think against Navalny with 1% support from the population.
    It will frighten. And us and Bandera. Then he will come out and say (already said) Russia will not survive the new Patriotic War ... So let's see who is the "guru" in Russia.
    1. Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) April 6 2021 21: 25
      +2
      Putin will not survive the new Russian-Japanese, so it is not in his interests to merge the interests of the Russian people, especially against the background of rising prices in the Russian Federation and not a popular pension reform, but cops, they were in 1917, but they are also people they have their own problems and the salaries of the bulk there are not thick, but only generals and colonels, who also not all will go for Gaidarchikov, will not fight much ... And finally I will say briefly and most importantly - to fight with the people, especially with our own, this is against the wind
      1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
        Kofesan (Valery) April 6 2021 23: 48
        0
        Basically ... - I agree. With everything. With everything that you have said and unsaid. But why, then, are not the rocket and mechanized divisions being staffed, but the Rossguard? Do you think people will want to change their horse at the crossing? I think there are few of them. All the same. And who will not endure - everything is ready for them.
        And then what? It's uncomfortable to sit on bayonets, I agree. But you can ... That's the calculation.
  10. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) April 5 2021 22: 49
    0
    Quote: gorenina91
    It will be a brilliant victory for the senile Biden, worthy of being recorded in the annals of history. Why such a brilliant move did not occur to Trump, I do not know. One move with the pawn "Ukraine" - and America is in the kings.

    - And ... - an absolute and purest victory ...
    - Personally, I have already written that the "de_b_lo_id_" and "come_ rk_ov_at_ty" politician Trump, as a result of his rule, simply threw the United States back 15-20 years ... - And the Americans lost to China everything that could be lost. ..
    - But these are Americans, this is the USA ... - what do we (it would seem) care about them ...
    - But no ... - during this seemingly successful period for Russia ... - and Russia, under the leadership of our guarantor, managed to put itself in a "state of zugzwang" (this is a situation in which any player's move leads to a deterioration in his position). ...
    - And the result is such that Russia simply found itself in a vice ... - And this vice ... - Syria, Karabakh, Ukraine, China ... and SP-2 ... - SP-2 has long ceased to be an economic factor for Russia; and long ago passed into the category of a political factor ...
    - And what should Russia do with all this now ??? - It's just hard to come up with ...
    - In Russia, with its crumbling production; a stunted economy; with a weakly armed army and no navy; with the collapsed dream of dominating the world market as a monopoly in the supply of Russian gas (and including LNG) all over the world and dominating the world space as a kind of world unsurpassed manager-manager in this critical area ... ... - there is only one way out ...
    - And there is only one way out ... - This is to completely go under the protectorate of China; fully orient their further existence to all the nuances of the Chinese economy and politics; with a corresponding loss of independent decision-making in the military field, in industry, in the field of creating any new technologies and advances in the field of all scientific research and scientific research ... - And, of course ... - no independent financial activity. .. - Ie - today's Belarus in relation to Russia is just an independent sovereign state; but who (or what) Russia will become in relation to China ... is simply a "vassal and suzerain" ...
    - Well, it will probably be possible to leave and maintain the "Potemkin villages" ... - "Mkadovskaya Moscow"; a number of towns near Moscow ... and the TV program "Field of Miracles" ...
    - Such is the "truth" approaching ...
    - My plus to the author of the article ...

    It is clear that everything is better in your Ukraine: with Syria and Karabakh in parallel, the situation with China and Turkey is even better, waiting for Ukraine to bend, Ukraine does not have SP2, there is another pipe, which has a pipe. Ukraine has a powerful economy, a powerful aria, a country with a dream come true to dominate the gas market, no, all gases (oxygen, hydrogen, fart). And Ukraine does not threaten to become a protectorate of China, in the first place they got angry, in the second, the owner does not order. A donor country for the latest technology, China recently bent over. And, of course, it is a financially independent country, not huhry muhry. There are no Potemkin villages at all. There is no field of miracles, but there is a field of fools. This is the whole truth, and the power is in the truth.
  11. Vlad Nemtsev Offline Vlad Nemtsev
    Vlad Nemtsev (Vlad Nemtsev) April 5 2021 22: 52
    +2
    The Iron Curtain-2 is inevitable for Russia if the State Department gives Kiev the go-ahead. But in the State Department are not quite out of their minds "Biden" and perhaps understand the consequences of the erection of such a curtain for the states themselves. Firstly, in this case, nothing else will interfere with the Kremlin, establish order in the zone of its internal affairs. Second, the Kremlin will not be bound by obligations that deterred it from tougher options for influencing its corrupt neighbors in the Baltics, Georgia, Moldova and many others. The states clearly understand that in this case they will have to sacrifice their own lives in the bloody world showdown. In today's conditions, the states will not be able to sit out overseas without being covered in blood, giving commands to their western kennel, they themselves are not all right on the island, and it is not yet a fact that they will be spared from bloody showdowns at home.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) April 6 2021 09: 27
      +1
      Among other things, Western capitalists run the risk of losing their property acquired in the Russian Federation.
  12. Marina Letskaya Offline Marina Letskaya
    Marina Letskaya (Marina Letskaya) April 6 2021 16: 39
    -1
    And the author is not from Ukraine, he does not know the story well enough ?! There are a lot of options for the development of events, and does Volkonsky really think that our president has not calculated all the pros and cons.
  13. Denis fed Offline Denis fed
    Denis fed (Denis Fed) April 6 2021 19: 33
    +4
    who never forgave Stalin annexations,

    And what was the annexation there?
  14. Denis fed Offline Denis fed
    Denis fed (Denis Fed) April 6 2021 19: 36
    +3
    The Red Army was beheaded by the pre-war purges and repressions, or rather cleared of liberal crap.
    If Stalin had not cleaned it, it would have been the collapse of the army! Complete!
  15. Denis fed Offline Denis fed
    Denis fed (Denis Fed) April 6 2021 19: 37
    +4
    Iron Curtain 2.0. and defeat in rights as a rogue country with all that it implies.

    Don’t tell me ... they’ll get lost and forgotten.
  16. Denis fed Offline Denis fed
    Denis fed (Denis Fed) April 6 2021 19: 39
    +3
    (goodbye to the unfinished SP-2 and other SP-1, Yamal-EU, I'm not even talking about the Ukrainian pipe),
    The author is a complete layman. The share of gas from the Russian Federation in the EU market reaches 35%, there is simply nothing to replace it with. Will the EU freeze Putin's butt in the winter?
  17. Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) April 6 2021 21: 07
    +5
    Volkonsky in his repertoire. In terms of the number of frankly not clever articles, he has long eclipsed Marzhetskiy, who had a ray of common sense in at least 40% of articles. Although, we must pay tribute to Volkonsky, the epigraph to his article is really worthwhile, for him 5 points out of 5 possible ... And now, point by point.

    1) Yes, the United States will impose sanctions against the Russian Federation, but this is not a problem, because the United States will still find a reason to impose new sanctions against the Russian Federation, even if the Donbass and Crimea will disappear from the face of the Earth tomorrow, like the epic city of Kitezh ... overnight and without trace.

    2) Disconnecting the Russian Federation from US Swift will do little today, a backup system of payments, albeit perhaps imperfect, has been created, so even plastic cards Visa in the Russian Federation cannot be blocked. Yes, there may be problems for fans abroad and holders of triple citizenship, but the mass of the population of the Russian Federation does not need it and it will not affect them. On vacation in Anapa, or in his native garden, US sanctions will not affect in any way.

    3) Volkonsky also got excited about the Northern Streams. Before disconnecting from Russian gas, it is necessary to find a replacement for it. Norway is curtailing gas production, its fields are depleted by the order. We will have to forget about shale gas from Donbass, Russian tanks and Russian military men who are very angry at NAT will be parked there. The pipe through Dill is likely to be destroyed, either during the fighting, or by the Dill's nazbats. Coal mines in the EU have long been closed, and their commissioning is not a matter of one day or even months ... The Yankees, as the last winter showed, are not ready to supply the EU with gas, because there are richer buyers for it in Asia. So the EU will have to look for a way to get Russian gas, no options. In the end, even England did not consider it shameful to trade with the hated communists ... selling even the latest aircraft engines to the USSR ...

    4) As for the arrests of the property of the Russian Federation abroad, Mr. Volkonsky apparently has a very modest idea of ​​the property of the NATO countries located in the Russian Federation. Only the United States will lose tens of billions of dollars upon the arrest of its property in the Russian Federation. Suffice it to recall the share of the United States in the production of Sakhalin oil and gas and similar nishtyaks ... So everything is not so simple here ...

    5) At the expense of foreign cars in the Russian Federation, this is primarily NATO money, not the Russian Federation, because each foreign car is a pump that regularly pumps money from the Russian Federation to the west, the regular purchase of Western spare parts ... It will be like with Polish apples, the Russian Federation will find a replacement, and layoffs will begin in Western factories, since the Russian market will be closed and production will have to be reduced, and therefore jobs ... and this will come back to haunt the crisis in the west, because people who have lost their jobs, if there are many of them, are no longer only their problem, but the state in which they live ...
    So, with a high degree of probability, with Dill there will be plus or minus in the same way as with Georgia
  18. Valery Vinokurov (valery vinokurov) April 12 2021 12: 28
    +1
    We will annex Ukraine, this is not discussed and a matter of time, the abscess on our western borders must be opened and the sooner the better
    And leave all the rest of your horror stories to your wife
    If the West decides to destroy us with the Iron Curtain, we will give them a day to think, then we will destroy the USA and England and the WORLD will become cleaner and better.
    That's all
    But, I think, it will not come to this, everyone wants to live, even the half-corpses of Biden and Clintonich
    All!!!
  19. Traktorbekov Urulu (Maksim) April 17 2021 13: 30
    0
    In other words, the author claims that Ukraine will strike the Crimea, and Russia will have only one way out - to quickly and quickly reel from there. Otherwise, the whole world in a single impulse will express its "phi" to us. I am not talking about the LPNR yet, because I think this is a less effective lever of pressure on Putin.
    Well, let me doubt it. Some in Europe do not smile at all to be left with empty gas hubs in anticipation of winter 21. And one should not think that LNG from America, or Qatar will save the situation - Europe will pay for such assistance for a very long time, if it can ever pay off at all. And if Europe does not give up Russian gas, then the curtain is already somewhat full of holes. The same can be said about European and American business in Russia. And you can't even imagine how many joint ventures - and what enterprises operate in Russia. Or does the author think that only we will get sick in case of a mess? It’s ridiculous to talk about the loss of rights. You might think that we are not impressed with our rights. That now the European courts make decisions only in fairness, and there is fair competition on the world market - without sanctions, threats and pressure.
    The Iron Curtain was possible when the Russian economy, Russian enterprises (well, in the sense of the USSR - worked only for the USSR. And now, when (according to some sources) such enterprises pour about a billion dollars into the world economy (mainly the American) every day - then, you know, here my grandmother said in two words who would be the first to howl from the consequences, if we consider the issue from an economic point of view.
    Once, one small but very proud North Korea conducted a couple of nuclear weapons tests, and one or two experimental launches of ICBMs, after which the hegemon, who threatened her with serious troubles, was somehow quickly blown away. An instructive story, isn't it? Is Russia threatened with such an economic, social and political decline as we see in North Korea? The question is rhetorical.
    In general, I like the "Reporter" channel, there are a lot of smart and sensible thoughts. What I can not say about, directly, Vladimir Volkonsky. Sincerely.
  20. Sergey t. Offline Sergey t.
    Sergey t. April 18 2021 05: 46
    -1
    What should we have done in 2014? Save no Yanukovych? (for a very short time) To preserve the integrity of the long-standing non-brotherly Ukraine? Forget about Crimea forever? Prepare a Black Sea base in Novorossiysk? (with minimal output and influence in the region) No! In that situation, the decision made was the most balanced! We've got more than we can lose now!
  21. Sergey Pedenko Offline Sergey Pedenko
    Sergey Pedenko (Sergey Pedenko) April 19 2021 21: 51
    0
    The most offensive thing is that we ourselves (the leadership of the Russian Federation) created this situation - going back to the 14th year, I think it was a window of opportunity //