Russia can no longer be silent: Turkish fighter destroyed Armenian Su-25


An F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft in the skies over Armenia. Official Yerevan reports. The stormtrooper pilot was killed.


It is specified that the Turkish plane was involved in the cover of drones and the Azerbaijani Air Force, which are involved in the operation in Nagorno-Karabakh.

F-16 took off from the Azerbaijani airfield Ganja and covered the actions of Azerbaijani aviation and drones that attacked the settlements of Vardenis, Mets Masrik and Sotk in Armenia itself

- reported the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia.

We add on our own that if the incident really occurred in the skies over Armenia, then it is uncompromisingly an act of aggression by Turkey. This is an attack on a member country of the Collective Security Treaty Organization. In this situation, Russia must take prompt and most stringent measures to protect the sovereignty of Armenia. In the event of Moscow's silence, the Treaty itself will be in jeopardy - the members of the defense union will have natural questions.

Armenia must receive reliable cover for its airspace. Turkey needs to point out that violation of the sovereignty of a CSTO member state is unacceptable and will be toughly suppressed by all available means, without regard to possible consequences for bilateral relations.

Aggressive external policy Ankara has reached its climax. After the illegal invasion of Syria, after attempts Turkish military to shoot down our planes in the province of Idlib in March this year, Erdogan decided to open another front against Russia. We hope that the Kremlin will not leave this attack unanswered.
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  1. Denis K Offline Denis K
    Denis K (Denis K) 29 September 2020 17: 55
    +7
    Ahah ..., right now, save me help ..., let's prove ... that he was shot down by Turkish forces.
    So far, all you can see is to hide behind Russia and drag it in, use it, Ary is shorter ..
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 34
      +1
      Quote: Denis K
      let's prove ... that it was shot down by Turkish forces.

      Heck. Sorry, Denis wanted to + put a mistake as a minus. I will find a couple of your messages and for a plus.

      Quote: Denis K
      So far, all you can see is to hide behind Russia and drag it in, use it, Ary is shorter ..

      A fat plus sign from me for the truth. That's right! Ankara officially admitted that they did not shoot down and officially and not officially, the Turkish Air Force does not participate in the battles. I will even say more .... Turkey is constantly in contact with the Kremlin in this conflict.
    2. maiman61 Offline maiman61
      maiman61 (Yuri) 29 September 2020 20: 12
      +5
      They seriously believe that we are like wooden dummies, and that they will want to and will use us! No really! We forced you to seize part of the territory of Azerbaijan? No! You started the war yourself, fight yourself and die! And with what joy will we die for you?
      1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
        Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 16
        -3
        Quote: maiman61
        No! You started the war yourself, fight yourself and die!

        oh, and I sense that soon on the streets of Yerevan there will be rallies with insults ... ... ... ... ... ... by the way, not for the first time.
        1. lahudra Offline lahudra
          lahudra (Nikolay Kondrashkin) 29 September 2020 22: 45
          -1
          But what about your favorite Baku chant: Rus, farce, ermeni - bunlar turkun dushmeni?
      2. serge Offline serge
        serge 29 September 2020 22: 28
        +1
        Yuri, this territory has always been Armenian, Lenin handed it over to Azerbaijan to please the then Turkish leader.
        1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 22: 48
          +2
          Quote: Serj
          Yuri, this territory has always been Armenian, Lenin handed it over to Azerbaijan to please the then Turkish leader.

          You're lying and not redder.
          Before you LIE, read the "Treatise of 1805 on the entry of the Karabakh Khanate into the Russian Empire" Do not mislead people. There is not a single internationally recognized document in the world where there is even a word about the statehood of Armenians.

          1. serge Offline serge
            serge 6 October 2020 22: 58
            0
            And if it were, you as an Azerbaijani, of course, would be happy to show it to us ... There are ancient Armenian temples, and regardless of what the territory was called, it belonged to the Armenians, even though I am not their fan. And your opinion as an agitator does not bother me at all.
    3. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
      kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 30 September 2020 00: 12
      0
      Quote: Denis K
      Ahah ..., right now, save me help ..., let's prove ... that he was shot down by Turkish forces.
      So far, all you can see is to hide behind Russia and drag it in, use it, Ary is shorter ..

      There is a joint air defense system, which includes Armenia. In addition to the old complexes S75, s125, "circle", there are beech 2m, s300, wasp, arrow, means of objective control on the territory of Armenia and Russia.
      Where is the statement of the RF Ministry of Defense?
  2. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
    Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 29 September 2020 18: 01
    +4
    over Armenia or over Azerbaijani Karabakh? how to Russophobia so they are independent and how to get in the face, so the brave Armenians ran to complain.
    1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 29 September 2020 18: 17
      -3
      Quote: Sergey Tokarev
      over Armenia or over Azerbaijani Karabakh? how to Russophobia so they are independent and how to get in the face, so the brave Armenians ran to complain.

      Have I really heard a common thought from you! It can't be. Seryozha you sometimes know how to think! drinks Hallelujah !!! If you still think that your opponents are not all Ukrainians, then in general. I'll be your fan laughing drinks
      1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
        Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 29 September 2020 18: 21
        -4
        I'm not greedy ... I can wish the Azerbaijanis good luck and more glass wool.
        1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
          Observer2014 29 September 2020 18: 28
          -6
          Quote: Sergey Tokarev
          I'm not greedy ... I can wish good luck to the Azerbaijanis and more glass wool to the Ukrainians.

          I am also not greedy. You can wish them glass wool on an industrial scale. Moreover, I never regretted this good for them.
    2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 35
      -3
      DYK. What kind of Armenians are "smart" A monument to the fascist Ndzhe in Yerevan can put up ... ... .... An election campaign against Russia can build, Russian channels can also be closed, but when trouble ... ... ... .... Russia pamagi. I bet that again there will be posters with insults to Russia. By the way, not for the first time.
  3. Obama Barack Offline Obama Barack
    Obama Barack (Obama Barack) 29 September 2020 18: 09
    +8
    What is it? You demanded: "Remove the bases! Russian invaders go home!" The time has come?
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 37
      +1
      Hahahaha) Pashinyan has already officially taken offense at the Kremlin. There is news) And the fact that he swore and swore that he would throw out the Russian base when he balated, he will not remember that.
  4. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 29 September 2020 18: 20
    -2
    Yes, this pure Armenian divorce. Everything! Do not see each other. There will be no this incident. There will be others. I would not be surprised if the artillery was connected to this provocation. It was all expected. yes
  5. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 29 September 2020 18: 23
    +1
    it is necessary to force the Turks in revenge to buy another regimental set of S400 and extend the SU-35 and the third pipe to the load
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 September 2020 18: 41
      +3
      Tomorrow Armenia will officially declare war on Azerbaijan and demand the help of the CSTO.
      Both Azerbaijan and Turkey deny that Turkish F-16s are involved in the conflict. But Armenia has already announced that Azerbaijan is shelling the territory of Armenia. There will be many more provocations.
      The author of this post is directly eager to fight
      1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 September 2020 18: 43
        +6
        Tomorrow Armenia will officially declare war on Azerbaijan and demand the help of the CSTO.

        Nonsense))) It doesn't work like that. To begin with, the CSTO must recognize the fact of an attack on a member state. Then a decision is made on the amount and type of assistance.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 September 2020 18: 56
          +1
          It doesn't work like that under normal logic. But this option is possible
        2. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
          Observer2014 29 September 2020 21: 00
          -2
          Quote: Kristallovich
          Tomorrow Armenia will officially declare war on Azerbaijan and demand the help of the CSTO.

          Nonsense))) It doesn't work like that. To begin with, the CSTO must recognize the fact of an attack on a member state. Then a decision is made on the amount and type of assistance.

          yes Kristalovich. Who are you explaining this to? Adepts of Armenia? You need it for 300 years. Personally, I am calm as a boa constrictor about where Russia will mindlessly lead in their showdown to get involved.
      2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
        Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 40
        +2
        Quote: Bakht
        will require the help of the CSTO

        Well, the CSTO will not fight for the Armenians. Will not be. Dad did not forget Aliev's kindness and he has an excellent relationship with him. Kazakhstan and the Kyrgyz will not be like the Tajiks either. The only question is Russia. And Russia and Turkey are constantly in contact ... ………………. What is Armenia counting on? What did they think when they swore that they would expel the Russian base? What they thought when they closed the Russian channels. I have said and will continue to say, Pashinyan needs an order. This street clown did everything to finish off relations between Armenia and Russia. They did not understand that without Russia they are NONE.
        1. bobba94 Offline bobba94
          bobba94 (Vladimir) 29 September 2020 22: 39
          +1
          Do not scold Pashinyan so that you can take it from him, he is a little puppy, what they said to him from behind a hillock, then he performed
  6. Alex 4 Offline Alex 4
    Alex 4 (alexander gryaznov) 29 September 2020 18: 47
    +6
    The Armenians sent us to three beeches and now they are asking to protect them. They made porridge themselves. Let them clean up
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 40
      0
      Quote: Alex 4
      The Armenians sent us to three beeches and now they are asking to protect them.

      they are ... ... ... ... now imagine how unlucky we were with our neighbors.
  7. General Black Offline General Black
    General Black (Gennady) 29 September 2020 18: 52
    0
    I don’t think that the Turks were so cheaply substituted. The Armenians declare that it was a Turkish F-16, the Turks deny. Azerbaijan says that this is their MIG-29. You cannot understand these lads.
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 September 2020 18: 58
      +3
      Azerbaijan does not say anything about MiG-29 either. Until I saw such information

      https://ru.oxu.az/war/426000
    2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 42
      +1
      Quote: General Black
      I don’t think that the Turks were so cheaply substituted.

      Azerbaijan does not need a physical presence in this war. Support on the world stage is enough for us. Further .... Turkey understands very well what awaits Turkey if they hit a plane on the territory of Armenia. This is a fable. Armenia is doing everything for Russia to intervene in the war. Sly (_) _)
  8. Afinogen Online Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 September 2020 18: 55
    +3
    Everything is simple here. If they did not want to resolve everything peacefully, then let them fight to the last soldier. Now, if Azerbaijan attacks Armenia itself, then yes, according to the agreement, we must help. But Aliyev firmly said that I will not retake only my lands against Armenia.
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 44
      +2
      Quote: Athenogen
      Now, if Azerbaijan attacks Armenia itself, then yes, according to the agreement, we must help.

      and you really want to help those who insult you and erect a monument to the one who killed your ancestors in the center of their capital? Do you so want to help those who have completely closed Russian channels? Do you want to help those who not long ago walked with posters on the street with the words RUSSIA OCCUPANT OF ARMENIA? If so, then the flag in hand and with a song.
      1. Afinogen Online Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 September 2020 20: 04
        0
        And where did I write what I want ??? Or do you write without reading, on the principle of writing something? I actually wrote that let them fight to the last soldier, spend more ammunition (not sparing). Then to our store to replenish the arsenals.
        1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 21
          -1
          Quote: Athenogen
          Then to our store to replenish the arsenals.

          they have debts above the roof. By the way, I noticed that Russia has never, NEVER gave them anything for free. NEVER. And free cheese only happens in a mousetrap. So they have nothing to pay with. Not money, not factories, not factories. They have huge interest rates on old loans.
    2. bubasa Offline bubasa
      bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 11
      0
      under what agreement "should we"? I don’t remember something that would have fought in the conflict between the Turks and the Greeks ... Or as in the joke "We thought here that the truth is not fair, so Gray and Kolyan will fight for you";)
      1. Afinogen Online Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 30 September 2020 07: 40
        -2
        What planet are you from? laughing The treaty is called the CSTO Read more here

        http://www.odkb.gov.ru/b/azb.htm
  9. Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 29 September 2020 18: 55
    +4
    Cover your ears. I say another stupidity. If we establish all foreign diasporas from our cities, then it will be much calmer on our outskirts.
  10. Heroes Heroes Offline Heroes Heroes
    Heroes Heroes (Sergei) 29 September 2020 18: 59
    +2
    I'm afraid we'll chew snot again! And on the other hand ..... LET YOURSELF understand!
    1. Volga073 Online Volga073
      Volga073 (MIKLE) 29 September 2020 21: 53
      -2
      Turkey is it yourself?
      Turkish Muslims destroy Christians in the CIS.
    2. bubasa Offline bubasa
      bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 09
      +1
      so do not chew the snot or do you wish Russia had a plug in every barrel? No, this is the lot of omerigash and their bedding made of europe;)
  11. Sergey A_2 Offline Sergey A_2
    Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 29 September 2020 19: 16
    +3
    So I think, send them a couple of trains of cartridges and encouraging postcards, they say, the Heroes of the Ormyan people will live forever in our hearts.
    1. bubasa Offline bubasa
      bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 08
      0
      and the cartridges at whose expense? I won't give money;)
      1. Sergey A_2 Offline Sergey A_2
        Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 30 September 2020 06: 10
        0
        Yes, we have in the bins, albeit a little used, but they will go.
  12. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 29 September 2020 19: 32
    +2
    If shot down over Armenia, there should be debris from the rocket. We wait.
    As soon as this conflict began, our over-the-horizon radars and satellites are sure to spill this region in full. Fortunately, it is small and close. Ours themselves will be able to determine whether someone was a stranger in the sky over Armenia and from where they took off. Before an official reaction of the RF Ministry of Defense appears, one should not be excited.
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 September 2020 19: 38
      +3
      Ministry of Defense of Armenia stated that the airspace of Armenia was not violated. Allegedly, the F-16 was 60 km from the border over the territory of Azerbaijan
      1. Volga073 Online Volga073
        Volga073 (MIKLE) 29 September 2020 21: 51
        +2
        Israel also destroyed the Russian plane without entering Syria.
        And if you send a missile to Washington, then this is also without entering the United States.
        1. bubasa Offline bubasa
          bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 07
          -1
          Well, what is it that Israel did such a thing about what science is unknown? ;)
  13. Morgan Offline Morgan
    Morgan (Miron) 29 September 2020 19: 45
    -1
    Russia cannot be silent now

    - you can't, but you have to.
    1. bubasa Offline bubasa
      bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 06
      0
      Well, Russia is its own mistress, she wants to keep silent, the opinion of the liberda is not a decree, while the omerigashki and Europeans have to silently wipe themselves off ...
  14. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 29 September 2020 19: 45
    +2
    An F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force shot down an Armenian Su-25 attack aircraft, the pilot was killed. Press Secretary of the Defense Minister Shushan Stepanyan announced this on her Facebook. The incident took place on Tuesday afternoon.

    The Armenian pilot died heroically.

    A Turkish fighter took off from the airfield of the Azerbaijani city of Ganja and covered the actions of Azerbaijani aviation and drones that were striking the settlements of Vardenis, Mets Masrik and Sotk in Armenia itself.

    At this time, the actions of the Armenian air defense were supported by aviation. During the combat mission, the Armenian attack aircraft was shot down by a Turkish fighter. The means of control recorded a Turkish plane at a depth of 60 kilometers towards the territory of Azerbaijan, at an altitude of 8200 meters.
  15. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 29 September 2020 19: 49
    +7
    To hell with this treaty, supply Armenia with portable MANPADS and that's enough. For 15 years, Armenia has never helped us, but it poured mud on Russia a couple of cars. They themselves will figure it out.
    1. bubasa Offline bubasa
      bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 04
      +2
      MANPADS? Only for money, without "borrowing", money in advance
  16. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 29 September 2020 20: 07
    +4
    Why only the Russian Federation ?! Let Kazakhstan and Belarus also send their troops to Armenia, since they are CSTO members and demand intervention from the Russian Federation. RF what, more than anyone else? If Kazakhstan and the Republic of Belarus do not send their troops to Armenia, then the Russian Federation has nothing to do there, to dissolve this stillborn organization and forget that it was! Nobody helped the Russian Federation either in Chechnya, or during the war with Georgia, or in Syria ...
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 25
      +1
      Quote: Sapsan136
      Let Kazakhstan and Belarus also send their troops to Armenia

      Kazakhstan not only has excellent relations with Azerbaijan, but we have the same identity and religion. I am 100% sure no one in the CSTO will fight for them (the question is in Russia) And Dad will not be any more. He remembers how in difficult times Azerbaijan helped them financially. Further, Belarus is now buying oil from Azerbaijan, and Batya is not to spoil relations with Aliyev. I’ll even say more, he publicly humiliated Pashinyan a couple of months ago. The Armenians are doomed. God see everything. They get what they deserve.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 29 September 2020 21: 47
        +3
        Oh, they are all always ready to accept help for free, but to fulfill their obligations, they are not here. In addition, the question here is in the specific CSTO agreement. If Kazakhstan and the Republic of Belarus do not fulfill their obligations today, then the Russian Federation will not be able to count on their help tomorrow, and if so, then the Russian Federation should stop selling weapons to these countries at the same prices at which the Russian army receives it and to protect these Russian countries too not worth it. The Russian Federation needs allies, not parasites, and if they demand for themselves equal rights with the Russian Federation, then let them make a contribution equal to that of the Russian Federation, and if they donate less than the Russian Federation, then even if they don’t stutter about equal rights with the Russian Federation. Those who have 90% and 3% of the shares do not have equal rights, here it is the same. The Russian Federation is not obliged to pull all military spending on its own hump.
  17. Polente the Wanderer 29 September 2020 20: 45
    +2
    Horseradish radish is not sweeter, we have no real allies there, let alone friends.
    1. Volga073 Online Volga073
      Volga073 (MIKLE) 29 September 2020 21: 49
      -3
      There is a war of Muslims against Christians. Are you an atheist?
      1. bubasa Offline bubasa
        bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 23: 02
        +2
        So what ? Another "brothers"? Such brothers as Svidomites, arable land and other Saakashvili are not needed, they themselves said "we are not brothers", I agree with them, their "brothers" eat up the horse in the ditch ... Nobody gave us shit like these "brothers", fellow believers and others ... I am Orthodox ... let the Western Christians go, they have a rich experience of punitive operations called "crusades" ...
  18. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 29 September 2020 21: 08
    +4
    Most likely, the Russians and Americans are watching the fighting in Karbakh. The Russian Aerospace Forces know exactly who and where took off .... Pashinyan and the West need to drag Russia into this incident. For the West, it will be just a holiday!) As for the Turks and Azerbaijanis, there are no fools sitting there! They know that the red line cannot be crossed.
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 22: 00
      +2
      Quote: Dust
      The Russian Aerospace Forces know exactly who and where took off ..

      100%

      Quote: Dust
      Pashinyan and the West need to involve Russia in this incident.

      Someone from over the hill advises him for sure.

      Quote: Dust
      As for the Turks and Azerbaijanis, there are no fools sitting there! They know that you cannot cross the red line.

      agree
  19. Volga073 Online Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 29 September 2020 21: 48
    -1
    Uncle Vova played a game of friendship with Erdogan.
    Maybe he is already getting old like Brezhnev?
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 59
      +2
      Quote: Volga073
      Uncle Vova played a friendship with Erdogan. Maybe he is already getting old like Brezhnev?

      Vova is a KGB-nickname and believe me better than you and me he knows what is good and what is bad, and even more so he knows who is good and who is bad.
    2. It is necessary to agree with Erdogan so that he would freely kill only Armenians, and not touch those Russians who still miraculously remained in Armenia!
  20. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
    sH, arK 29 September 2020 22: 34
    +3
    I suggest to the author "not to endure"! Sign up to the Dashnaks in the militia and "go to war, so that the land in Grenada would be given to the peasants!" Maybe he will leave his bad head there, if he is lucky, he will grow wiser and will no longer write nonsense!
  21. Ser sash Offline Ser sash
    Ser sash (Ser Sash) 29 September 2020 22: 54
    -1
    In the first war, Russia helped both sides in the same way, but Azerbaijan more
  22. bubasa Offline bubasa
    bubasa (Konstantin) 29 September 2020 22: 57
    +2
    Don't give a damn! We have built the largest US embassy and go there, Pashinyan and all the liberda until you donate to the organs or to feed the pigs you can't come to us ... It doesn't matter who shot down the Turks, Azerbaijanis, Mongols, Chinese, French ... Don't give a damn. All by yourself, you have to answer for the market ... but in today's situation to Uncle Sam ... hi
  23. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 30 September 2020 00: 41
    -2
    -What ...- is it really established that the F-16 shot down the Su-25 ??? -It's not a fake ???
    - If this is reality; then personally I will only repeat what I have already written ...
    - Namely ... - Once, personally, I already asked the question of whether at least one fact was recorded (and this fact is actually established and has evidence) ... - the fact that sometime and where -that, in some kind of air combat by a fighter, an attack aircraft ... - or by any other military aircraft of Russian (Soviet) production, at least one F-16 (of any modification) would have been shot down ??? -Can anyone give such a fact ???
    = The fact that the Russian military apparatus is already down the line of the F-16 ... - these are generally recognized and more than once proven facts ... - they just have a place to be ...
    - No, and F-16 ... - also got lost by air defense (surface-to-air missiles); but so that in an air battle ... -personally I am not familiar with such facts ... -Maybe someone can give such facts ... -I will be very grateful ...
    - There are many statements about ... - who is right there ... - Armenians or Azerbaijanis (or Turks) ... - Personally, I absolutely do not care ... - But what worries me is that again it is very simple and with impunity another F-16 shoots down another Russian-made military aircraft ...
    - Personally, I ... - a specific person ... - and it just amazes me that no one else present on the site (except me) cares about this happening ... - No, well ... again "invulnerable F-16 "so easily, playfully ... - another Russian-made military plane knocks down ... - and here they only argue about ... - who is right ... - and who is to blame ...
    - As for specifically ... - the very sad event that happened yesterday; then Russia rather meekly transfers "similar things to its own address" ... - this is when the same F-16 has already shot down Russian military aircraft more than once (and even the same Su-24 and others) ... Armenia ... will bear it too ... - where to go ...
  24. Sergey A_2 Offline Sergey A_2
    Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 30 September 2020 06: 17
    +2
    I served in the army in the 90s, we had Armenians and Azerbaijanis, I don’t want to speak for all their people, but judging by those "fellow soldiers" I do not even feel sorry for their loss in this mess.
  25. Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 30 September 2020 08: 17
    +1
    After all, there was a case, Turkey shot down our plane. This conflict needs to be looked at. And not flog a fever. War is always easy to start.
  26. KARAKURT21 Offline KARAKURT21
    KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 30 September 2020 10: 34
    0
    Well do not tolerate wink laughing
  27. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 30 September 2020 13: 23
    0
    In vain the old woman is waiting for her son to go home,
    They will tell her - she will sob.
    And the waves are running from the propeller astern,
    And their trace disappears in the distance ...


    ... something inspired, must be at the level of DNA ... how long is the memory of the war lasts 4 generations. 800 years have been a continuous war with us ... but the trouble is for the "highbrow" women, but they don’t give birth as in their favorite proverb. However, I think we’ll have enough for one more war. Only in this case, it’s too small, sort of like a “small change in pockets tyrit ", sincerely necessary
  28. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 September 2020 13: 51
    +1
    Hikmet Hajiyev: "Two Armenian Su-25s crashed into the mountain"

    https://haqqin.az/news/190611
  29. They killed a Russian officer - Major Valery Danelin! For this, the Turks must take revenge!
  30. Leon68 Offline Leon68
    Leon68 (Leon) 30 September 2020 18: 13
    0
    Quote: gorenina91
    And what worries me is that again, very simply and with impunity, another F-16 shoots down another Russian-made military aircraft.

    And since when has the Su-25 become a Russian-made aircraft? If you, once again, write garbage, then at least formulate your questions correctly! The aircraft of the Armenian Air Force, produced in the USSR, manufactured at the plant in Tbilisi. Where and from which side is the Russian production of this aircraft?
    1. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
      Michael1950 (Michael) 1 October 2020 02: 10
      0
      - Russia is the sovereign heir to the USSR, isn't it ?!
      1. Leon68 Offline Leon68
        Leon68 (Leon) 1 October 2020 18: 00
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        Have I denied it anywhere?
  31. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 1 October 2020 02: 09
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    - There is a proven method: take a carriage of rotten tomatoes - and in the face of Erdogan! am So that you know, viper, whose planes can be shot down, and whose planes cannot! belay
  32. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 1 October 2020 02: 23
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    Quote: gorenina91
    -What ...- is it really established that the F-16 shot down the Su-25 ??? -It's not a fake ???
    - If this is reality; then personally I will only repeat what I have already written ...
    - Namely ... - Once, personally, I already asked the question of whether at least one fact was recorded (and this fact is actually established and has evidence) ... - the fact that sometime and where -that, in some kind of air combat by a fighter, an attack aircraft ... - or by any other military aircraft of Russian (Soviet) production, at least one F-16 (of any modification) would have been shot down ??? -Can anyone give such a fact ???

    - The only time the F-16 (Turkish) was shot down was by the Greek Mirage-2000, 25 years ago, during the turmoil between Turkey and Greece over Cyprus. Other occasions in air battles while was no more.

    - There are many statements about ... - who is right there ... - Armenians or Azerbaijanis (or Turks) ... - Personally, I absolutely do not care ... - But what worries me is that again it is very simple and with impunity another F-16 shoots down another Russian-made military aircraft ...

    - Since the plane belongs to the Armenian Air Force, it is Armenian. Where it is made is no longer important. Moreover, what can an attack aircraft against a fighter?

    - Personally, I ... - a specific person ... - and it just amazes me that no one else present on the site (except me) cares about this happening ... - No, well ... again "invulnerable F-16 "so easily, playfully ... - another Russian-made military plane knocks down ... - and here they only argue about ... - who is right ... - and who is to blame ...

    - The F-16 is indeed a very successful, very good fighter, among the Turks it is equipped with very good American air-to-air missiles, if not the latest modification - AIM-120D (range on oncoming heads up to 180 km), AIM-120C7 (range up to 120 km). Very accurate missiles, active radar homing heads ...

    - As for specifically ... - the very sad event that happened yesterday; then Russia rather meekly transfers "similar things to its own address" ... - this is when the same F-16 has already shot down Russian military aircraft more than once (and even the same Su-24 and others) ... Armenia ... will bear it too ... - where to go ...

    - If the Most Serene One has profitable commercial relations with Erdogan - will he quarrel with him to death over some unfortunate Armenian plane? If you haven't quarreled over the Russian ?! Especially when, after the last elections, the leadership of Armenia turned to Russia, I hesitate to say in front of the ladies, what place ?!