Alternative for Ukraine: the Kremlin is promoting a new political tandem

30 2019 June 24

A few days ago a significant event took place in the Ukrainian direction. The authorities of the proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics went to meet the arrivals from Kiev policies Viktor Medvedchuk was also given the consent to the return of four prisoners of war, convicted or accused under grave charges. The important thing in this is that everything was realized outside the framework of the so-called “Norman format”, which caused a sharp hostile reaction from President Zelensky. How is it worth considering what happened?

Among the "lucky ones" that the DPR and LPR allowed to take Medvedchuk home with them, there were people involved, according to law enforcement officers, to terrorism, aiding terrorism, genocide and high treason. This is the first exchange of prisoners that took place in a year and a half, however, one-sided. Without the official status of the parties to the negotiations, Viktor Medvedchuk is not able to secure and guarantee the return of captured militias to Donbass.

Why, then, Donetsk and Lugansk played one goal?
To understand the situation, several factors must be taken into account:

At firstHaving lost everything that is possible, President Poroshenko finally “spoiled” those who languish in the dungeons on both sides of the border, disrupting the planned exchange:

Unfortunately, the previous government in the person of Petro Poroshenko did everything to ensure that these exchanges did not take place.

Secondly, President Vladimir Zelensky, who was elected and took office, is in no hurry to become a “peacemaker” and end the long-standing conflict. Three quarters of the country's population voted for change, but the war in the Donbass has been and continues. Victor Medvedchuk explained:

We saw that Zelensky was not going to release or conduct exchanges.

Thirdly, less than six months remain before the expiration of the transit agreement, and Vladimir Alexandrovich is in no hurry to sign a new one.

Against this background, it finally became noticeable how the Kremlin, some five years after the Maidan, began to pursue a certain focused policy in Ukraine. It seems that the bet is made on the tandem of Victor Medvedchuk - Yuri Boyko.

Boyko took fourth place in the last presidential election, but overall, his result, 11,6%, does not make him a clear outsider, rather, on the contrary, it reflects the state of Ukrainian society. Even more important from the point of view of influence on political processes is the presence of the parliamentary party “For Life”, the leaders of which are Boyko and Medvedchuk. It stands on pro-Russian positions, although it will be more accurate to say, on pro-Ukrainian ones, since cooperation with Russia is objectively in the interests of Ukraine itself. The powers of the President of Independence are limited by the Verkhovna Rada, therefore the presence of a conditionally pro-Russian bloc in it is highly desirable for both of our countries.

It is easy to see how Moscow is demonstratively promoting Medvedchuk and Boyko in the Ukrainian political field. The tandem brought to Kiev good news from the St. Petersburg Economic Forum that Gazprom is ready to make big concessions to Nezalezhnaya. Now Medvedchuk brings home prisoners of war from Donbass while the incumbent president is inactive.

This is probably the way the Kremlin makes it clear to those residents of Ukraine for whom the illusions regarding the charms of "European integration" have disappeared, who should be guided if they are ready to restore relations with Russia. Well, better late than never.

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beeper

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30 June 2019 08: 39

Boyko had a lot of votes, during the "counting", they took away in the first round in favor of the "current Maidanoprez" - an obvious outsider of the "elections", in order "purely democratically" to give him (even obviously against the will of the majority of voters !!!) to the second round ?!
And we understood the "handshake signal" and negotiability with Moscow even before the first round, that's why it got our votes!
Although Boyko and Medvedchuk are still, "changing shoes in a jump", "European integrators" from the Judeo-Mazepa "Party of Regions", which more than once deceived their voters ... ...
Bakht

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30 June 2019 09: 00

I'm afraid no alternatives are visible.
The question is the viability of the state of Ukraine. That is, it is necessary to raise the question of federalization and the status of the language. These are the main points. Federalization means that the center and the western regions immediately become subsidized. The East, through the efforts of the Nazis, is also not in chocolate at present, but at least something can be restored there. Since I stand on the positions of historical materialism :-), the basis will determine the superstructure. That is, power should go to the East of Ukraine. Whether in Kiev, Poroshenko, Zelensky or Boyko, their main task is to preserve Ukraine and the Ukrainian language. So no one will find a pro-Russian party or politics in Ukraine during the day. You can find another beggar and a traitor. The article says that it is in the interests of Ukraine to establish ties with Russia. And why is Russia once again investing in an anti-Russian project?
"As for everything else, Carthage must be destroyed."
Conclusion - the salvation of drowning is the work of the drowning hands themselves. Ideally, denazification of the country, non-aligned status, language problem, federalization of the country. And all this should be done by the Ukrainians themselves, without regard to Russia. All this can be done only by authoritarian methods. That is coercion. In the meantime, I see another beggar who, using Moscow, is trying to get on the iron throne. And then he wants to get preferences from Moscow and continue his course to the West.
1. gorbunov.vladisl
  
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  30 June 2019 16: 44
  
  Conclusion - the salvation of drowning is the work of the drowning hands themselves.
  
  You are not right.
  This position is not true, but for Russia it is also harmful. If all this had happened beyond the borders of the land on another continent, and if everything had collapsed there. However, this is all on our border. A country that is considered a world superpower should control the processes taking place in the world. And even more so to restore order on its borders.
Marzhecki

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30 June 2019 09: 05

Quote: Bakht
The article says that it is in the interests of Ukraine to establish ties with Russia. And why is Russia once again investing in an anti-Russian project?
"As for everything else, Carthage must be destroyed."

Russia should not feed Ukraine. Russia must help Ukraine cleanse itself.
Marzhecki

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30 June 2019 09: 11

Quote: Bakht
Conclusion - the salvation of drowning is the work of the drowning hands themselves. Ideally, denazification of the country, non-aligned status, language problem, federalization of the country. And all this should be done by the Ukrainians themselves, without regard to Russia. All this can be done only by authoritarian methods.

It sounds beautiful, but unrealistic. To do this, you must come to power. Is that a coup?
Let's say ... And you try to organize something like that "on your own" in the conditions of Independence, when you will be opposed by the SBU, NABU, Pravoseka, ukropatriots, etc. It is simply impossible to do something on your own. The window of opportunity was in 2014, now it is boarded up.
Without external assistance from Russia, changes in Ukraine are impossible. But, if the Kremlin decided on some kind of help, then having a conditionally pro-Russian legal party in Kiev is very reasonable. Although I have no illusions about the readiness for such scenarios in our leadership.
1. Bakht
  
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  30 June 2019 09: 37
  
  I still do not understand why Russia should do something in the interests of the STATE of Ukraine? I still understand Russian help, but I don’t understand supporting the state. I do not even consider the question that this is a direct interference in the internal affairs of a foreign state.
  In April, they said that Zelinsky was voted in favor of Poroshenko. Although even then it was clear what kind of bird it was. Three weeks later, elections to the Rada. Let's look at the result. Now the citizens of Ukraine will have a choice: Zelensky party or Boyko.
  Do you undertake to predict the result of elections to the Rada?
  1. beeper
    
    0
    
    30 June 2019 11: 10
    
    Of course, in the elections to ZRada, there will be much fewer votes for the banderozapadoid buffoons of Zelensky's "party" than there was in the spring "against Giblets," let these Russophobic "servants of the people" not flatter themselves!
    We'll have to vote for Boyko-Medvedchuk's "Oppoplatform", although they are also slimy, "weathervane", such, because the rest are even worse - frank ameroeurocholuins, not to mention the completely destructive natsimarginalas, Bandera-style caches!
    1. Bakht
      
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      30 June 2019 11: 36
      
      Today, the forecast for servants is 50%, for the opposition platform 11%. That is, Boyko today has the same percentages as before. Conclusion - for an alliance with the Russian Federation only 11%. Not enough for some kind of gestures. In any case, the opposition platform today can only rely on the seats of the opposition without any chance of the influence of decision-making.
      But these are all forecasts and 3 more weeks to come. We will see.
  2. gorbunov.vladisl
    
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    30 June 2019 16: 46
    
    ... why should Russia do something in the interests of the STATE of Ukraine?
    
    Russia does this in its own interests.
Valentine

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30 June 2019 10: 19

We are now "may be, may be," and of all the evils we need to choose the least, all the same they all have their own bourgeois interests, and nothing else. , and sees the "indecision" of the new president - on the one hand, he is threatened by the Natsiks, on the other hand, the oligarchs are oppressing him, and the people, as always, are "khataskrayniks", and even with the majority of Zelensky's supporters in the Rada, no noticeable progress towards Russia is expected there will be no war, no peace, but there will be a smoldering conflagration fire, which the United States will constantly feed with green "firewood." We urgently need to revise our policy of "hugs and kisses" with "brotherly" neighboring peoples, Belarus and Kazakhstan are already walking the path of the Ukrainian Maidan, and this process cannot be stopped.
1. Bakht
  
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  30 June 2019 10: 40
  
  And in which direction do you want to "revise"?
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valeriy7

-1

30 June 2019 13: 14

The Tandem Medvedchuk-Boyko will become the same problem as Yanukovych, only Crimea will be attached to this problem, which was not the case under Yanukovych.
1. Bakht
  
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  30 June 2019 15: 09
  
  Medvedchuk:
  
  Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, but de facto it is Russia
  
  Smartly:
  
  You will not find in Ukraine a single politician who would recognize Crimea as Russian.
Oleg RB

0

30 June 2019 14: 02

Zelenich should wish them good luck. Let the prisoners continue to be rescued
Alexander Bushkovsky

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30 June 2019 15: 05

Russia, it seems to me, should bring Ukraine to complete chaos by imposing tough sanctions on it. It should disintegrate in a couple of years. And to reduce the number of the population by 30-35 percent by internecine wars, where everyone is against everyone. To do so with Ukraine, as the Americans wanted to do with Russia. And if Europe really wants to help Ukraine, then let it help, but at its own expense, and not at Russia's expense. And we must stop the verbiage about the "brotherly and united" people. They made their final choice - "Ukraine is Anti-Russia". And there is nothing that will not change. And if it does change, then only for the worse, since two generations have already grown up fiercely hating Russia and its peoples.
1. gorbunov.vladisl
  
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  30 June 2019 16: 51
  
  Russia, it seems to me, should bring Ukraine to complete chaos, imposing strict sanctions on it. In a couple of years, it should break up.
  
  Not a bad scenario.
  However, we are already waiting for this (decay) for the fifth year. And it doesn’t happen. Maybe you need to actively participate and help break up? Well, or at least so that the processes taking place on this territory are beneficial to Russia. As the States do in other countries.
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Marzhecki

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1 July 2019 06: 39

Quote: Ziya-ul Khak
How else?! Who should answer for the blood of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Chechens ?! Who should be responsible for ethnic cleansing in the Tskhinvali region of Georgia ?! Who should answer for the thousands of dead civilians in Georgia if not your Putin ?!

Who will be responsible for the Odessa citizens who were burnt alive?
Who will respond to the Mariupol suppressed by tanks?
Who will be responsible for the residents of Donbass killed by shelling of the APU?
Marzhecki

+1

1 July 2019 06: 41

Quote: Bakht
Medvedchuk:

Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, but de facto it is Russia

Smartly:

You will not find in Ukraine a single politician who would recognize Crimea as Russian.

Any politician who says that will become a corpse. Political.
1. Bakht
  
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  1 July 2019 07: 30
  
  Correctly. This is what we are talking about. It is one thing to gravitate towards Russia, to speak Russian, another is to lose territory. So there are no pro-Russian politicians and cannot be. Simple by definition. The same Medvedchuk and Boyko declared: "First we need to solve the problem of Donbass, and then we must solve the problem with Crimea." The difference in approach is obvious. Putin claims that the problem of Crimea does not exist, and the "pro-Russian" Boyko is going to solve this problem.
  What solution? The state is losing territory as a result of a lost war. And not otherwise. That is why
  
  As for everything else, Carthage must be destroyed
  1. Bakht
    
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    1 July 2019 07: 35
    
    Everything in history has already been and precedents can be found for any situation. 4th century BC. Kavdinsky gorge and the council of Herenius Pontius.
    
    There is no third solution. You will not destroy enemies and make friends.
Vladai

0

1 July 2019 08: 27

You cannot climb to Ukraine.
Do not bother them to self-destruct. It is necessary to recognize LDNR, hold referendums on self-determination there, recognize their independence following the example of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, introduce troops and wait. Wait for the kakly to fall apart. The plan is already there and approved.
Current kakly hate Russia. They hate more than the Germans in '45. It takes several decades, life in complete poverty and in the mud, for these platypuses to reconsider their attitude towards Russia.
Everything must be done so that they fall as low as possible, to the very bottom, smeared in mud and shit, so that they fight for a piece of bread at the back of the truck with humanitarian assistance ...
The first step has been taken - gas will go around the territory of these crazy people. The second should be - a ban on all trade, economic and humanitarian-cultural relations, close the border for all their goods, introduce a visa regime, prohibit Kalyak aircraft even flying over the territory of Russia. The third is to expel all the kaklov-gaster, who do not have citizenship, from Russia - from show business to construction sites. Give them a week for this. Who does not have time - on a reservation and let them work out for a ticket to their independent prostitute.
On another it is impossible. They are not brothers to us. For the last 300 years, since the time of Peter and Mazepa, Ukraine has betrayed us the most. Kakly and Poles.
I understand that many of our representatives of the highest authorities and oligarchs have serious business interests in this country, I understand that there are mixed families, intertwined fates, so this most effective and efficient plan to destroy Kaklyak statehood is unlikely to be implemented. Although ..., according to the first signs, everything goes to this. Not so fast and tough, unfortunately.
Surely, the USA is also FOR, only there is a bargaining that they will receive in return. Apparently, they want too much. As soon as they agree, the first thing the Americans will publish is evidence of Ukraine’s guilt in the deaths of hundreds of people in the Boeing that they brought down, will make them an outcast and ... that’s all. Second after LDNR.
Kakly, it will be difficult for you. Highly. But you endure, banderlog.
1. Bakht
  
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  1 July 2019 09: 33
  
  A little different.
  Ukraine as a state exists. In modern history, we have only one fact of the collapse of the state (Yugoslavia). But in Ukraine, a completely different demographic situation.
  Therefore, the procedure should be this: breaking all economic and political ties with Kiev. Do not recognize LDNR. These are areas of Ukraine. And the liberation of Ukraine should go from these regions of Ukraine. Having discarded tender words, a civil war should go on in Ukraine. Slavophiles against the Westernizers. And it is necessary to exert the utmost power of LDNR and crush official Kiev with all its might. Ukraine wants to go to the West? Perfectly. Then let the West take it for maintenance.
  Unfortunately, I constantly hear talk about fraternal peoples and the economic support of Kiev. Demagogy about helping ordinary people annoys me. This is simply helping the Nazis destroy all dissenters.
  1. Vladai
    
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    1 July 2019 11: 37
    
    Unfortunately, our Anglophile rulers are playing "legitimacy", and therefore insist on Minsk-2. The bottom line is what.
    According to the Constitution of this ukria, in order for the region to receive expanded powers and / or declare its sovereignty, a referendum must be held throughout Ukraine. The only exception is the autonomous republic and the city of direct republican subordination, which were the Crimea and Sevastopol. Therefore, if they even bite a member out of anger, the referendum and the declaration of independence / accession passed there strictly according to the Kaklyak Laws and the Constitution. Here the mosquito of the nose will not smothe.
    It is clear that in the current situation no one in Ukraine will vote for the sovereignty of LDNR. Minsk agreements provide for federalization. Those. Separation referenda can take place in a separate area without a national referendum. The leaders of this large tribe understand this very well and are doing everything to make Minsk-2 a poher.
    Our leaders, first of all, of course, the President, are very afraid and depend on world public opinion. They disguise it under a muddy name - the loss of investment attractiveness of Russia. (It’s as if someone in line has stood up and is ready to invest money in us.) Whoever said anything. Therefore, decisive action against enemy states, of which this barnyard is today, is impossible to wait for from our leaders.
    Too many personal interests are intertwined with ours and their oligarchs and authorities. There is an agreement, we do not touch the Ukrainians business, they do not touch the business of our nouveaux riches from business and government.
Bulanov

+1

2 July 2019 13: 57

Parliamentary elections in Ukraine will be won by someone who clearly explains to the people of Ukraine who ate Ukrainian lard during their independence. And what needs to be done to make the fat reappear.