The tragedy with the "Superjet" confirmed the worst fears in civil aviation

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The tragedy that occurred on May 5 at Sheremetyevo Airport again put on the agenda the issue of the deplorable state of domestic aviation in the broad sense of the word. Some sin on the Superjet, others on the notorious human factor, while others talk about the problems of the system as a whole. Let's try to figure it out.





Bad plane?


The Superjet project is constantly criticized:

At first, "Russian novelty" in three quarters consists of imported components.

Secondly, the manufacturing company did not bother to create an appropriate service network for after-sales service for many years. Because of this, most of the time, the short-haul airliner is on the ground, waiting for a long time for spare parts for repairs. The Mexican air carrier, which purchased Superjets, was forced to disassemble part of them for components for other aircraft, which caused claims to Sukhoi Civil Aircraft.

Thirdly, the developers managed to initially fit into the narrowest niche - the liner with 100 seats, which is clearly evidenced by its name. World demand for aircraft of this class does not exceed, according to experts, 60-70 units per year. The liners with the number of seats from 65 to 75 are much more in demand in short-haul transportation. The Brazilian Embraer and Canadian Bombardier hold the palm here.

The authorities set a goal to make a shortened version of the "Superjet", but here everything is not easy. Well-known Russian expert Roman Gusarov explains:

Through the efforts of the creators and consultants, Superjet was designed so that it cannot be extended or shortened - any such change leads to an almost complete alteration of the machine.


Billions of budget funds were actually spent on the “dead end branch of evolution." In the old days, something like this would be called "sabotage" with all the ensuing consequences. But today, those involved in the project continue to be respected people. Does all this in itself make the Superjet a bad plane, especially considering that the Sheremetyevo disaster has become the 20th emergency since 2012?

The question is not entirely clear. On the one hand, disasters with human casualties occurred in both Brazilian and Canadian competitors. On the other hand, there were many more aircraft produced there, and they fly much more often than the Superjet. Most likely, it should be recognized that the “Russian novelty” is not so much bad as an unsuccessful aircraft, “damp” and not quite consistent with the declared market segment. How much profanity is in this, and how much someone’s intent is a question for the authorized bodies.

But are the consumer qualities of the Superjet a direct cause of the tragedy?

Money?


Both the pilot of the unfortunate flight and the passengers claim that lightning has hit the plane. It is rather strange that it could lead to disruptions in the operation of on-board systems, given that modern liners should be equipped with lightning protection, which we are talking about told earlier.

Another question is why the aircraft commander decided to fly through a thunderstorm. Why didn’t it fly around, why didn’t I sit on the alternate aerodrome? The answer is "economic expediency ”: airline delays in flight delays, schedule failures are disadvantageous for the airline, for which the pilot may get scolded by the management. For the same reason, the Boeing 737-800 landed in Sochi last year under bad weather conditions, which affected 18 people.

Money again?


Already, the most realistic version of the cause of the crash is called poor pilot training, as well as the inconclusive work of rescue services at the airport. The Superjet commander decided to sit down with full tanks without running out of fuel, and also did not try to enter the next lap when it became clear that there were problems with the landing. Alexander Melikhov, an old-school pilot, explains:

In any situation, the aircraft can be controlled manually, for this there is a helm and pilots hands. Another thing is that today piloting an airplane manually is not worked out as it should.


And it is true. The "Reporter" repeatedly spoke about the deplorable situation in civil aviation in our country. Today, flight schools give poor training; they teach flying on obsolete Diamond aircraft, which are not actually used. Hours of flight are few, experienced instructors are not enough. Airplane control, where everything is tied to electronics, becomes a real challenge for such pilots.

As a result, airlines are forced to re-train their new employees, but this happens in an accelerated mode, and not everyone has the appropriate equipment. Andrey Litvinov, a 1st-class pilot, explains:

Now these raw boys come after Diamond, they need to be re-taught as soon as possible.


According to the pilot, training takes an average of one and a half to two years instead of the ideal ten years. There are big problems with retraining. On the basis of anonymity, some civilian pilots report:

Now the pilot is asked 900 questions once a year, and he sits on a computer and answers them. And this is all retraining.


Experienced pilots of the old school prefer to work abroad, where salaries are much higher. Those who stayed fly on Airbus and Boeing, and are not in a hurry to retrain on Superjets, which the government strongly recommends to domestic carriers. As a result, at the controls of their cabs is a "young shoot" that does not have much experience.

Those familiar with the problems of the industry believe that only the creation of the Ministry of Civil Aviation can solve its systemic collapse, under the supervision of which all educational institutions, air carriers and airports of the country will be assembled.
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  1. +3
    7 May 2019 11: 47
    But why then DESTROY this very ministry ????? Like many other specialized controls ...
    1. +3
      8 May 2019 09: 59
      And why then DESTROY this very ministry?

      But what about Aeroflot and airports then? Under the supervision of the ministry or what? )
      The main task is "to take away and divide", and not to develop something there ... Chubais clearly, in his time, expressed himself.
  2. +4
    7 May 2019 11: 55
    It used to be (in most cases) like this: DOSAAF (flying club) - for free - secondary aviation school (for free) - retraining courses in Ulyanovsk or the Academy of Civil Aviation in St. Petersburg (for free) and only then they were allowed into the Big Aviation, with a flight of at least 3000 hours. They trained very high quality and rigorously. The selection was wild, more than at Moscow State University and MGIMO.
    Soviet pilots were considered the best and most trained in the world.
    Now we can’t talk about the high level of training of our pilots, with rare exceptions. Unfortunately, there is no discipline and training is bullshit.
    High season traffic on the bow. Our air carriers do not want (and now the sucked-in pocket "airlines" -charts will fly out too) to give away "pax", as they neglectfully call us, passengers, Russian Railways or Lufthanses, emirates or klm. Aerodrome workers (who owns the Sharik ?, then) will by all hook or by crook justify firefighters and aircraft rescue services that are swollen from sleep, because fewer flights - less gas stations, rent for parking, maintenance of aircraft, even sales of frenzied burgers will drop, alcohol, coffee, cheap swill and trinkets in duty-free at the airport. Why should Rotenberg lose hundreds of millions?
    They canalize the pilots' guilt, blame lightning, wind, and passengers, who allegedly killed 41 people because of their backpacks and indirectly, as it were, of the pilots themselves, whose absolutely unprofessional actions led to the deaths of so many people.
    The revival of the Ministry of Civil Aviation alone will not do anything. They will put the same Dietrich, who helps to cut with state property in the 90s, which is far from transport as well as a sheep from astrophysics, or the same Neradko, the killer of small aircraft, and everything will remain as it is. Best case scenario.
  3. +3
    7 May 2019 12: 08
    Already, the most realistic version of the cause of the disaster is called ....

    Actually, you should wait until the end of the investigation. And then draw conclusions about what or who is bad.
    And the main cause of the disaster is lightning getting on the plane. Because of which supposedly the onboard systems began to malfunction. To continue is in the air in this case is not entirely reasonable. Therefore, do not rush to the accusations of the pilots.
    There is another version that the plane was not ready for a lightning strike. And in this case, questions to the manufacturer. But apparently the administrative resource is not on the side of the pilots. And the crew will most likely do the extreme. https://topcor.ru/8393-skr-nazval-prioritetnuju-versiju-krushenija-ssj-100-v-sheremetevo.html
    In any case,
    WAIT FOR THE END OF THE INVESTIGATION.
  4. -4
    7 May 2019 12: 15
    why did pilots land the plane manually? They say imported electronics refused.
    These are all the results of Putin's liberoid economy. Is it the same with us in tanks and air defense, whose computers are there? How can there be a big mess Russia will not be able to answer with anything, and all this husk from the government jumped on airplanes and to the grandmothers to the front.
    1. +3
      7 May 2019 12: 21
      They must first learn to fly instrumentally (manually), and then “through computers”. It’s like in driving schools - learn mechanics, and always learn on the machine.
      Another thing is that they are poorly taught to fly manually.

      ... it takes an average of one and a half to two years instead of the required ten years ideally. There are big problems with retraining. On the basis of anonymity, some civilian pilots report: Now a pilot is asked 900 questions once a year, and he sits on a computer and answers them. And this is all retraining ...

      (from the article)
  5. +1
    7 May 2019 12: 26
    ... I do not have radio communications, but from the video that I received, this is a gross approach to the band - at increased speed. This is a child’s mistake that only cadets sometimes make, a goat that led to a subsequent fire

    - said the Hero of Russia, honored pilot to test Magomed Tolboev.
    1. +3
      7 May 2019 12: 31
      I have no radio conversations ...

      There is no doubt about the professionalism of Magomed Tolboev. But if you don’t know what happened in the air, then how can you comment on what is happening? And to emphasize who is right and who is not?
      An unsuccessful (catastrophic) landing is a consequence of what happened back in the air. What forced me to land.
      1. +4
        7 May 2019 12: 51
        I have little experience piloting aircraft (1300 hours), however, in small aircraft. What could happen if I went “on target”, on a glide path, the engines and mechanization are working, there is no fire and failures, weather conditions allow you to sit visually, the strip is chic ... what are the problems? Moreover, he already made a circle (large). If there were problems, then he would have sat down immediately, with a straight line, if there were no problems, why did not he produce fuel? Why did you make a baby mistake - high alignment and high landing speed? Why could not fend off the rebound? Why didn’t you go to the second round after the first goat?
        This cap said in an interview that EVERYTHING WAS OK, but he does not understand why it all happened. Listen to his babble. He did not say anything about fatal and inevitable failures. Self-confidence and lack of professionalism.
        1. +2
          7 May 2019 15: 35
          Why made a childhood mistake ...

          Well, it’s not for you to judge whether the mistake was "childish" or not. And was she a mistake at all?
          To make verdicts, one must possess the entirety of the information.
          Not you, not I, do not know what condition the aircraft equipment and systems were on.
          There will be a consequence and we will find out the answers to all questions.
          Che is ahead of time to hang labels about "childish" mistakes.
          1. 0
            7 May 2019 16: 26
            Just watch the landing video. If you have even the slightest idea of ​​“flight operations”, then the very first thought that comes to mind is a gross violation by the pilots of the rules of this very production. This is the First. What is coming. To the mind.
            And then, of course, the investigation can and will show something. Although, you should be well aware of how our investigations are conducted.
            Read the report on the B 737 disaster in 2008 near Perm, when a thump in the trash .... killed almost 90 people.
            1. +3
              8 May 2019 05: 11
              Read the report on the disaster b 737 in 2008 near Perm ...

              According to the report, the pilot was not found drunk.

              However, the detected concentration of alcohol in the pilot's muscle tissue can be caused by post-mortem processes in the tissues, therefore no official conclusion about the state of intoxication of the FAC has been made.

              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Катастрофа_Boeing_737_в_Перми#Окончательный_отчёт_расследования

              Although, you should be well aware of how our investigations are conducted.

              Yes I know. And already I see that without waiting for the investigation, they hang everything on the pilots.
              I’m not blocking anyone. But I urge you to wait for the full information, and then draw conclusions.
              1. 0
                8 May 2019 08: 57
                You are arguing for the sake of argument.
                About the Perm flight, there are “live” pilots' voices on the Internet during radio communication with the dispatcher. Listen to this. Drunk ok bast does not knit.
                The IAC, then headed by Aldonina the mother of the owner Transaero Pleshakov, a former accountant and head of the department of the Ministry of Civil Aviation of the USSR, in order to save the image of the natsper and her Soviet patrimony, also formulated this nonsense - during the death, the concentration of ethyl alcohol in the blood rises ??? !!!
                Then there was a successful bankruptcy of Transaero. Aeroflot (OBS) repurchased TA debts and canceled it, taking it by airplanes and other assets.
                And you write about the lack of proof of the alcoholic pilot.
                1. +2
                  8 May 2019 09: 45
                  You are arguing for the sake of argument.

                  I do not argue about the Perm disaster, but simply voiced the officially accepted version. But you argue. Only not with me, but with the commission investigating that catastrophe.
                  Apparently, if a decision that doesn’t suit you is adopted on the Sheremetyevo disaster, you will argue with her too.
                  1. -1
                    8 May 2019 10: 47
                    This is not an argument. This is regret. FAC thieves, 100% will give a conditional year with the right to continue a flight career.
                    And we, Pax, will fly and pray to God that lightning does not strike the plane or, God forbid, none of the passengers fart too loudly, otherwise the cabin crew will take it for lightning or surging and will start to panic, because, apparently , their psyche is like muscular young ladies.
                    As for Perm, still listen. Although not necessary. You believe official investigations. Why load the brain with emotions. Wait for the investigation.
                    1. +1
                      8 May 2019 11: 06
                      As for Perm, still listen. Although not necessary. You believe official investigations.

                      If you are able to prove (protest) the incorrect results of the investigation, I will only support you. If not, then you should not stutter. There is nothing to talk about.

                      100% will give a conditional year with the right to continue a flight career.

                      Why so sure that the pilots are to blame for everything? After all, there is no information confirming this. In addition to speculation and fiction.
  6. 0
    7 May 2019 13: 22
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    And the main cause of the disaster is lightning getting on the plane. Because of which supposedly the onboard systems began to malfunction. To continue is in the air in this case is not entirely reasonable. Therefore, do not rush to the accusations of the pilots.

    Landing with full tanks showed that there is the least reasonable solution.
    1. +1
      7 May 2019 15: 24
      Landing with full tanks showed that there is the least reasonable solution.

      Say "a", say "b".
      What is the "smart" solution?
      Although not you (I suppose), I am not pilots. And even more so, we do not own the entirety of information on this disaster.
      So how can we judge what is reasonable and what is not?
  7. 0
    7 May 2019 21: 46
    Another ministry, what’s up, how many more officials do you need to produce?

    "Superjets" that the government strongly recommends to domestic carriers

    - what kind of government is this - more like the fact that it is abroad, recommending a crude and expensive aircraft for 70% of imported components to domestic carriers and who is lobbying for this "wonderful" technique in the government?
  8. -1
    7 May 2019 22: 16
    Worst Fears? The crew was evacuated in 73 seconds! And the steward saved people to the last! This movie crew saves people, but in life? If only one of the aircraft was taken out. In wartime, such a crew, and the hand would not flinch. I feel sorry for the children.
    1. 0
      8 May 2019 05: 17
      The crew was evacuated in 73 seconds! And the steward saved people to the last!

      The flight attendant (steward) is also a crew. http://fb.ru/article/231243/kto-vhodit-v-sostav-ekipaja-samoleta-ekipaj-passajirskogo-samoleta-sostav-foto
  9. 0
    8 May 2019 06: 17
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    So how can we judge what is reasonable and what is not?

    According to the result: 41 corpse
    1. 0
      8 May 2019 09: 55
      According to the result: 41 corpse

      Your answer is clearly not from a great mind.
      If you do not answer the opponent’s question, but hide behind tragically dead people.
      You better not say anything.
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  11. Him
    +1
    8 May 2019 09: 31
    Quote: stabayd
    "Superjets" that the government insistently recommends to domestic carriers "- what kind of government it is - more like the fact that it is located abroad, recommending a crude and expensive aircraft for 70% of imported components to domestic carriers and who lobbies for this" wonderful "technology in government?

    What are you talking about, following the author? He chews half of the article about the "raw plane" in order to admit at the end that his, the author, single The claim to the SSJ-100 is that (!) Tickets for it sell poorly.

    What are you throwing here?
  12. +3
    8 May 2019 12: 16
    The tragedy has confirmed that the country's economy is controlled by rams, which would just rip everyone off, and they don’t care about the state of affairs in any sectors. It can only be in addition to the defense industries, which would protect their right to plunder the country.
  13. +2
    8 May 2019 15: 53
    If a passenger service company paid insurance for every ten dead and injured passengers worth tens of millions of dollars, then flight safety would be paramount.
    1. +4
      8 May 2019 21: 43
      Oh, they made fun! Capitalism!!!!!! You pay for your safety. Do not fly Russian planes, fly Soviet, there is reliability there. It was a terrible country of the USSR, they thought about the safety of people, and not about stolen money.
    2. DPN
      +1
      8 May 2019 23: 04
      These dozens will not be needed for the dead, but they will simply be taken away from the cripples, airplanes are needed, which no one needs to do, and for what, if they fly in private.
  14. +1
    8 May 2019 21: 37
    Gee, capitalism. Birthmarks. No surprise at all.
  15. DPN
    +1
    8 May 2019 22: 59
    The consequences of the collapse of the USSR, that's all. One’s probably already nothing left 1/4 of his plane is nothing.
  16. 0
    8 May 2019 23: 37
    On the face of "effective work" "effective managers"!
  17. +2
    9 May 2019 03: 49
    In our state of Putin (as Surkov said in his article), the main value is money. Then again money, then people widely respected in a narrow circle. The reason for the tragedy in Kemerovo? Money. While these are in power, so be it. Platoshkin correctly says that it is necessary, during the elections, to change the comprador regime to the power of the people. Even the mourning has not been announced.
  18. 0
    9 May 2019 10: 15
    Quote: Him
    What are you talking about, following the author? He chews half of the article about the "raw airplane" in order to admit at the end that his, the author's, only complaint about the SSJ-100 is that (!) Tickets for it are selling poorly.

    What are you throwing here?

    This is where it was written? belay
  19. 0
    9 May 2019 10: 16
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    According to the result: 41 corpse

    Your answer is clearly not from a great mind.
    If you do not answer the opponent’s question, but hide behind tragically dead people.
    You better not say anything.

    Oh, who would say ... hi