Why Zelensky’s victory is Russia's defeat in Ukraine

March 31 2019 73

Today, March 31, it will be determined which way Ukraine will go next. Presidential elections will be held in the country, and with a high degree of probability one can expect victory in them by a local comedian and former quarterman Vladimir Zelensky. The actor confidently holds the first line of the popularity rating with a low anti-rating.

Of course, you shouldn’t say “gop” before you jump over. His rival, current president Petro Poroshenko, who has a large administrative resource behind him, can still try to “cheat”, since his chances of a fair victory are negligible. What can he and other rivals of Vladimir Zelensky do?

At first, Pyotr Alekseevich can “win” in the first round, gaining more than 50% of the vote. This can be done only by ensuring the total falsification of election results. This is a step of despair, because the "answer" to him will be tough. The disgraced Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, who is behind Zelensky, will make every effort to defend the victory of his protege. Another Maidan in the event of a “victory” of Poroshenko in the first round is almost inevitable.

Secondlyif President Poroshenko doesn’t “cheat” so brazenly, his administrative resource may allow him to enter the second round with Zelensky. And then the thing equipment: experts in "black PR" pour mud over the actor, get his dirty laundry and reveal to the public. In the end, during a day of silence before the second round, it will be possible to arrange provocations on behalf of Zelensky’s team, for example, to put on television the series “Servant of the People”, which can be considered a gross violation of the electoral law and a reason for removing the comedian from the race. A tough response from the opposition will also be provided.

ThirdlyIf Yulia Tymoshenko enters the second round with Zelensky, Pyotr Alekseevich may consider the elections passed with violations, protest and annul them. This may give him some respite, but dramatically increases the likelihood political upheavals in Nezalezhnaya, which could end very badly for him. And in Rostov no one is waiting for him.

Other options like honestly losing Zelensky Poroshenko or Tymoshenko are less realistic. The Ukrainian people are very tired of their old "elites" and are ready to vote for any new face in protest.

Will the likely victory of Vladimir Zelensky be beneficial to Russia? After all, this is a person who is not dirty either in corruption scandals or in the blood of the inhabitants of Donbass. Moreover, the actor said that war is not his method, and the fate of unrecognized republics can be resolved through negotiations with the Kremlin, including at an all-Ukrainian referendum.

Paradoxically, such a constructive Zelensky may be the final point in the geopolitical defeat of the Kremlin in Ukraine. If he finds himself ready to compromise in the Donbass, the “holidays” from the Russian military will end immediately, and the unrecognized Republics will very quickly return to the Square. After that, the whole of Ukraine will go to Europe and NATO, and the "multi-way" will end with a natural fiasco.

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Port

+9

31 March 2019 08: 26

Firstly, he is a bastard, and secondly a Zionist. If you add up these two factors, you get a dwarf Walzman. Russia has only one single correct option - it is to force the West to fully contain the second-hand. Who ordered the Maidan, let him pay. And it is natural to exclude any location of S.Sh.P. military bases in this territory, under the threat of total destruction.
1. Oleg RB
  
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  31 March 2019 13: 17
  
  Port, how do you know Zelensky so well?
  1. Galar
    
    +2
    
    April 1 2019 08: 09
    
    Quote: Oleg RB
    Port, how do you know Zelensky so well?
    
    but in the face it is clear that he is a Jew, not a Slav. And in his bazaar, that he is a Bandera.
2. yuriy55
  
  +1
  
  April 2 2019 07: 12
  
  Quote: Port
  Russia has only one single correct option - it is to force the West to fully contain the second-hand.
  
  Quote: Port
  And it is natural to exclude any location of S.Sh.P. military bases in this territory, under the threat of total destruction ...
  
  ... the bases themselves in Ukraine.
  
  I have always been a supporter of consistent diplomatic persuasion and the radical military destruction of enemies (opponents, partners ...)
Bakht

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31 March 2019 08: 40

What compromises can Zelensky make? Or any other candidate? Recognition of the Russian language at least regional? Investing in rebuilding ruined infrastructure? Economic and political federalization of Donbass? Yes, it will be carried forward by the nationalists. And right away.
What trade-offs will Donbass agree to? Cleaning up the entire population? Payment of housing and communal services at Kiev rates? Recognition of the Ukrainian language as the only national one? Church schism?
None of the candidates (most likely) are acceptable for Russia. So you can just watch the action. I’m just interested in the percentage layout. Of course, with falsifications, it is difficult to draw conclusions. But it seems to me that even total falsification cannot change more than 10%.
Ivan Nikolsky

+5

31 March 2019 08: 49

It is beneficial for Russia NOT to RECOGNIZE the election. Enough, she already made that mistake in 2014.
YUG64

+5

31 March 2019 09: 55

The author, Ukraine's campaign to Europe and NATO, where no one is waiting for it, means a further decline in living standards, the killing of infrastructure and the split of the country. To see in this the geopolitical defeat of Russia and the next "hassle" of the West, can only be a bearer of the Central European headdress from mother's kitchen.
1. Kir-rr
  
  +2
  
  April 1 2019 15: 31
  
  Well yes. Without Crimea, Ukraine does not need NATO. But what scare the bases in Kharkov, and in Estonia there are NATO bases. Nothing, live.
beeper

+4

31 March 2019 10: 31

Dear Sergei Marzhetsky, how to understand this? The spineless hypocrite-actor who performed with "patron" concerts for the punishers who killed the residents of Donbass, publicly "everything has already been" cleaned up "??!) calling all Donbass fellow citizens" scum "unworthy to live, sponsoring in every possible way (including considerable money" combed "in Russia, however, like many of the Ukrainian" stars of show business "!) Anti-People's Terrorist Operation (ATO) and suddenly, in your writings, it turned out to be" not stained in the blood of Donbass residents. " How can this be? You are adequate lyudyna and suddenly such a "twist" in your performance ???
Marzhecki

+1

31 March 2019 11: 05

Quote: YUG64
By the author, Ukraine's campaign to Europe and NATO, where no one is waiting for it, means a further decline in living standards, the killing of infrastructure and a split of the country. Only the bearer of a Central European headdress from mother's kitchen can see in this the geopolitical defeat of Russia and the next "interruption" of the West.

You have some kind of mess in your head, sorry.
1. YUG64
  
  +4
  
  31 March 2019 11: 36
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  You have some kind of mess in your head, sorry.
  
  Quite an expected "answer" with impenetrable argumentation ... And what, someone is waiting for Ukraine in NATO or the EU? Porridge is in your head if you don't see obvious things to everyone.
2. Accidentally
  
  +1
  
  April 4 2019 09: 40
  
  You are right, the West is shouting: the Russians are at war with the Russians. The goal is achieved, then chaos, which is what the West needs to do. They don’t give a damn about Ukraine ..... this is the Kremlin’s Chekist defeat. ask a question: where are the money kept by the Kremlin (oligarchs) ?????
Marzhecki

-1

31 March 2019 11: 07

Quote: pishchak
in your writings, turned out to be "not stained in the blood of the inhabitants of Donbass", how can this be, you are adequate lyudyna and suddenly such a "twist" in your performance ???

He did not give the order to start the ATO. And he told Gordon that war was not his method of solving the issue. As for the "scum" - this is on Zelensky's conscience.
1. beeper
  
  +2
  
  31 March 2019 12: 04
  
  Dear Sergei Marzhetsky, I added this unconvincing "evasion" of yours as a sign that I was too hasty, strict and exacting to you, and you are in Russia and not under the Nazi occupation, and in a peaceful life people have completely different criteria, more humanistic, glorious and all forgivable.
  You never know what these "Jews Bandera" (as the main sponsor of the "candidate Ze" openly called himself, and the Benin assistant Filatov - "promise everything to these scum, and we'll hang them later", also from the same "team", even the "rhetoric" is the same! ) "they say and" declare "(and THEY HAVE NO CONSCIENCE AND NEVER WAS!), but" for their affairs "- Zelensky sponsored (and continues to sponsor ?!) the murder of residents (of all nationalities, because" blind "shells and mines, released in peaceful cities and villages by Kiev punishers, they do not understand where the Russian is, and where the Jew or the Ukrainian kill and maim everyone in a row, and this is what these ghouls intended!) Donbass is also completely "stained" with their blood, as an accomplice of the Amerobanderian occupiers of Ukraine!
2. Accidentally
  
  0
  
  April 4 2019 09: 42
  
  And once Zelensky was independent ???? This is a puppet of Kolomoisky.
Marzhecki

0

31 March 2019 11: 09

Quote: Bakht
What compromises can Zelensky make? Or any other candidate?

Exactly what is written in the Minsk agreements. After which the border is transferred to the APU, if you have read these agreements.
1. Bakht
  
  +6
  
  31 March 2019 12: 52
  
  Read. Zelensky did not promise to implement the Minsk agreements. There self-government of Donbass is registered. The border transfer is the last point.
  I don’t understand the question at all. The election of the President of Ukraine is an internal affair of Ukraine. And for Russia, none of the favorites is a plus. The most correct approach is the non-recognition of the results. There are a lot of reasons for this.
Marzhecki

-1

31 March 2019 11: 10

Quote: Bakht
What trade-offs will Donbass agree to? Cleaning up the entire population? Payment of housing and communal services at Kiev rates? Recognition of the Ukrainian language as the only national one? Church schism?

And what, Donbass suddenly became an independent political entity in our country? Have independent leaders of the LDR not been rotting in the land for several years now?
1. Bakht
  
  +6
  
  31 March 2019 12: 56
  
  De facto Donbass is independent. Today’s elections clearly demonstrate this. They do NOT elect the president of Ukraine. Why do you think Kiev cuts off the Donbass? Yes, because in order to falsify the elections in Russia and the Donbass.
Oleg RB

+3

31 March 2019 11: 11

Poroshenko has already shown that he is not fish, nor meat - Yanukovych-2 in practice. But the management builds on the example of a rake in the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation - irremovability. If he wins, the last Maidan will appear in kindergarten.
Marzhecki

+2

31 March 2019 11: 16

Quote: Bakht
What compromises can Zelensky make? Or any other candidate? Recognition of the Russian language at least regional? Investing in rebuilding ruined infrastructure? Economic and political federalization of Donbass? Yes, it will be carried forward by the nationalists. And right away.

First, Zelensky in an interview with Gordon mentioned the possibility of a referendum, where a similar issue could be resolved. The referendum relieves him personally of responsibility for such significant decisions.
Secondly, do not exaggerate the importance of nationalists. The whole rampant Maidan is possible only with the passivity of law enforcement agencies. If there was a go-ahead, back in 2014 the Golden Eagle would have dispersed everyone. How can you stop not some kind of sr .. natsiks there, but a real military coup, look at the example of Turkey.
1. Bakht
  
  +3
  
  31 March 2019 12: 58
  
  Yes they could. But there was no go-ahead. From this we must draw conclusions. So I would not play down the importance of nationalists.
2. gorbunov.vladisl
  
  +1
  
  April 1 2019 05: 16
  
  ... Zelensky mentioned in an interview with Gordon ...
  
  Do you know many candidates in the world for the head of this or that state, who, after being elected, rushed to fulfill the "mentioned"? Especially in the territory where the Bandera-fascists rage.
Gunter prereen

+2

31 March 2019 11: 44

Defeat of Russia? Again the same song, from the series, Russia should, or even so on, etc. Russia has long been a winner. 1. A competing economy in a dilapidated state, with very weak prospects (I described this with tolerance))))) 2. Gas transit is coming to an end. Hooray! 3. The internal political chaos in Ukriya will grow every year. And good! But the problem of "flight" of the population is already serious. It's like mold spores. And from this Russia will definitely lose if it does not close the borders for ukrov. There is a big difference between Poland and Russia. In Poland, they will make a Pole from Ukrainian, whether he wants it or not. They will force you to speak in a normal language and learn the correct history (from the Polish position, of course). But in Russia, steal will be allowed to stay secluded.
Marzhecki

+2

31 March 2019 12: 27

Quote: pishchak
Dear Sergei Marzhetsky, I added this unconvincing "evasion" of yours as a sign that I was too hasty, strict and exacting to you, and after all, you are in Russia and not under the Nazi occupation, and in a peaceful life for people at all

My relatives live in the Donbass, just under the occupation in Mariupol. So let's do it without demagoguery, ok?
1. beeper
  
  +1
  
  31 March 2019 14: 54
  
  My relatives live in the Donbass, just under the occupation in Mariupol. So let's do it without demagoguery, ok?
  
  We, about the completely "bloodstained" sponsor of the ATO Zelensky, are talking about "unreal" populist "statements", which for some reason you believe more than his real deeds (I really hope that in the RF IC), and not about relatives on Donbass, what kind of "demagoguery" is there, dear Sergey Marzhetsky ?! Remember the biblical - ABOUT THEM ...
Marzhecki

-1

31 March 2019 12: 29

Quote: Gunter Preen
1. A competing economy in a dilapidated state, with very weak prospects (I described this with tolerance))))) 2. Gas transit is coming to an end. Hooray! 3. Domestic political chaos in Ukriya will grow every year. And good! But the problem of "flight" of the population is already serious.

1. This economy could become part of the Russian economy in 2014.
2. Doesn’t come, transit will continue, Russia will eventually be forced to maintain the Ukrainian GTS.
3. You are a good person ...
1. Gunter prereen
  
  0
  
  31 March 2019 13: 58
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  1. This economy could become part of the Russian economy in 2014.
  
  It is a myth. There is nothing worse than living in a world of illusions.
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  2. Doesn’t come, transit will continue, Russia will eventually be forced to maintain the Ukrainian GTS.
  
  Is it possible. Unfortunately. Alas, in Russia liberals are in power in the economy. Type liberals.
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  3. You are a good person ...
  
  I am kind! But not good!
2. Then
  
  +3
  
  31 March 2019 21: 20
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  Russia will eventually be forced to maintain the Ukrainian GTS.
  
  From what grounds do you draw such a conclusion? I think that by 2020 we will somehow be driving gas through the UGTS, but only until the introduction of SP-2 + EUGAL + Gasella. Then the main gas contracts will be executed by the UGTS, some volumes will go to Ukraine on the spot market. Where do you see the contents of other people's capacities? Can you imagine what the content of fixed assets is? The reason for paying for maintenance and repair of GTS? It’s easier to lay the second pipe to Turkey and put part of the Trans-Balkan branch in the opposite direction, with the pipe laid through Serbia to Baumgarten.
3. turbris
  
  +1
  
  April 1 2019 19: 42
  
  Well, why do we always talk about the past? Yes, and in 2014 the Ukrainian economy could not become part of the Russian one, politicians and oligarchs immediately began to focus on the West, where did you get such thoughts? I would not talk about the geopolitical defeat of Russia in Ukraine, why is this suddenly? The people of Ukraine saw how the people of Russia live in 2014 and did not want to live like that, reoriented to the West. An understandable attitude, I wanted to go where it is better - why do we condemn them for this? Russia did not attract anyone then, being in a deep crisis, what kind of geopolitical defeat we can talk about, there was nothing to fight. There are positive aspects to this - finally, the Russians finally realized that they have no friends, brothers, but only the army and navy. What's next? But nothing - everything is fine - the gradual development of the economy and an increase in the material standard of living of Russians will again attract former friends or others will appear who will be mutually beneficial to be friends with us. Therefore, it is not necessary about any defeats of Russia, the struggle for spheres of influence is a long process, if even the hegemon cannot do anything with Venezuela, then we will not rush with Ukraine.
Marzhecki

+3

31 March 2019 12: 31

Quote: YUG64
Quote: Marzhetsky
You have some kind of mess in your head, sorry.

Quite an expected "answer" with impenetrable argumentation ... And what, someone is waiting for Ukraine in NATO or the EU? Porridge is in your head if you don't see obvious things to everyone.

Ukraine has already passed Euroassociation. This does not make it part of the EU, but makes it a colony of the EU.
NATO does not expect Ukraine as a member, but this does not prevent it from becoming a NATO partner, and it does not interfere with the deployment of the US military directly. By the way, a NATO base is already being built in Ochakovo.
1. beeper
  
  0
  
  31 March 2019 15: 02
  
  The base in Ochakov has already been built, it is "settling in" (like the ShirLan nearby) by the owners of the anti-Russian "project Ukraine".
2. YUG64
  
  +4
  
  31 March 2019 15: 24
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  Ukraine has already passed Euroassociation. This does not make it part of the EU, but makes it a colony of the EU.
  
  That's it. People were promised prosperity and pensions, as in Europe, and plunged into poverty and unemployment, hitherto unprecedented. And without any prospects. And now more and more people are thinking about what was originally a completely different option. NATO bases can be in Ukraine, but missiles are more of a fantasy. At such a step, there will always be countermeasures, both against the United States and against Ukraine. The main thing is that confrontation with Russia leads, and will always lead, to the impoverishment of Ukraine. Maybe this is not a victory for Russia, but certainly not a defeat.
  1. Marzhecki
    
    0
    
    31 March 2019 15: 46
    
    And now more and more people are thinking about what was originally a completely different option.
    
    But what's the point?
    
    NATO bases can be in Ukraine, but missiles are more of a fantasy.
    
    from what? easily.
    
    At such a step, there will always be countermeasures, both against the United States and against Ukraine.
    
    which are specifically against the US?
    
    The main thing is that confrontation with Russia leads and will always lead to the impoverishment of Ukraine. Maybe this is not a victory for Russia, but certainly not a defeat.
    
    if you think in these categories, then I don’t see the point in continuing the discussion.
    1. YUG64
      
      +1
      
      31 March 2019 18: 15
      
      Who would doubt it ...
  2. Vanka Rebellion
    
    +1
    
    April 2 2019 16: 12
    
    And what he promised and now promises the ever-appointed to the Russian Federation !? And what did he do in kind ??! But no cho! .. - for the better, and a lot - for the worse! So, what is the state secret that will attract new supporters to Russia? A cheaper mother-oil, or bourgeois stukanut embargo-die?! ..
sergeu2

+2

31 March 2019 15: 19

Yes, Russia does not care who will be the president. Ukraine is gone, and Russia will not feed the hungry and evil. WHO NEEDS AN AMERICAN RESERVATION.
Marzhecki

-2

31 March 2019 15: 48

Quote: Bakht
De facto Donbass is independent. Today’s elections clearly demonstrate this.

With this level of reasoning, I see no reason to continue the discussion about this. Sorry.
1. Bakht
  
  +6
  
  31 March 2019 16: 01
  
  And you do not discuss at all. You are uttering words. And you must believe. But I do not believe it.
  Zelensky promised a referendum? Well, decipher .... The referendum will not be in Donbass, but throughout Ukraine. Zelensky is not interested in the opinion of residents of Donbass. Zelensky "sees no point in negotiating with Donbass." He believes that Russia is the aggressor and wants to negotiate with Moscow. Balabol he and no one else.
Marzhecki

+1

31 March 2019 15: 49

Quote: Gunter Preen
1. This economy could become part of the Russian economy in 2014.

It is a myth. There is nothing worse than living in a world of illusions.

Uffffff ...
Marzhecki

+3

31 March 2019 15: 51

Quote: Bakht
Yes they could. But there was no go-ahead. From this we must draw conclusions. So I would not play down the importance of nationalists.

You should not play down. But do not exaggerate. If law enforcement agencies work, all of these Natsik are either underground or behind bars.
1. Bakht
  
  0
  
  31 March 2019 16: 04
  
  Ha and ha again. So the police are the roof for Natsik. What Maidan, what elections? Avakov clearly stated that it was he who would follow the election process. After that, I began to bet on Poroshenko. Just don’t tell me that they are at war. They have a common owner and the owner has relied on Poroshenko.
Bakht

0

31 March 2019 15: 51

At the moment, the turnout is high. Almost 45%. The most interesting thing is that in Lugansk and Donetsk regions the voter turnout is 43%
Apparently Poroshenko will be the new (old) president.
Marzhecki

+2

31 March 2019 15: 51

Quote: sergeu2
but Russia will not feed the hungry and evil. WHO NEEDS AN AMERICAN RESERVATION.

What are you saying? Will not it be?
Marzhecki

-1

31 March 2019 15: 53

Quote: Bakht
Read. Zelensky did not promise to implement the Minsk agreements. There self-government of Donbass is registered. The border transfer is the last point.
I don’t understand the question at all.

You asked about the trade-offs that may be involved. They answered you.
Self-government after the transfer of the border of the Armed Forces?
1. Bakht
  
  +4
  
  31 March 2019 16: 06
  
  Not. In Minsk, it is recorded that first self-government, and then the border. And Zelensky said that Minsk was dead. So Zelensky is not going to implement the Minsk agreements.
2. Bakht
  
  +4
  
  31 March 2019 16: 07
  
  I did not ask about compromises. I am sure Zelensky cannot imagine any compromises. Like any other applicant.
  1. Marzhecki
    
    +2
    
    April 1 2019 06: 43
    
    Well, this is your opinion. You have the right.
    I admit that the "Green Man" may well hide behind a referendum in Ukraine on the status of Donbass, which will absolve itself of personal responsibility. Plebescite is such a thing, state propaganda will be able to prepare public opinion in advance as it should. They will give the LDNR a special status within the framework of Minsk-3, and the entire history of the people's republics will end. And it will be possible to say goodbye to Ukraine completely.
    1. Bakht
      
      +3
      
      April 1 2019 11: 08
      
      Zelensky has no idea what a referendum is. I have to explain. In recent years, we have witnessed several referenda on independence or secession. In politics, this is called secession.
      So, the referendum of Scotland, Catalonia, the same Brexit, Crimea, Donbass. The referendum is held only in the territory that wants to secede and only by citizens living in this territory. This is an axiom. To hold a referendum on the Donbass throughout Ukraine, as Zelensky suggests, is utter stupidity. In Scotland or Catalonia, a referendum was held throughout the country?
      So Zelensky is unable to give any autonomy by definition. And not a single president of Ukraine can do this. Even Yanukovych.
      Donbass in 2014 requested not even political, but economic independence. This is also impossible by definition.
      So no one will perform Minsk. It is clear as God's day. And the status of the state language, even Yanukovych did not provide the Russian language. Zelensky all the more. I already wrote. Any president who proposes such a thing will be carried forward. Nationalists under the cover of Avakov. This is the reality of today. I don’t see anything else.
Dzafdet

-1

31 March 2019 17: 31

You got 404 with this country! Our edros reject all bills to improve the life of the people. This is really important. And the rest is just nonsense.
Then

+4

31 March 2019 21: 09

If he finds himself ready to compromise in the Donbass, the “leave” of the Russian military will end immediately, and the unrecognized Republics will very quickly return to the Square. After that, the whole of Ukraine will go to Europe and NATO, and the "multi-pass" will end in a natural fiasco.

These are just the wishes of the author, behind which there is no analysis of the situation. Such political scientists in each of our courtyards, on benches, five in a row, are not yet predicted. And about the "natural fiasco" dilute an example, you are our historian! Like, whatever the authorities do, everything is doomed to fiasco? Or how?
Shelest2000

+3

31 March 2019 22: 09

Something ... something ... No difference.
Neurocrop

+3

April 1 2019 02: 51

Yes, a colleague ... judging by what I see in Ukrnet, as of the beginning of April 1, your excellent forecast is justified. Alas ... Option number 2 seems inevitable. All of you are correctly analyzing - the victory of the clown is absolutely not to the advantage of either Russia or Ukraine. But, apparently, the country is waiting, after the second round, the second term of the bloody Petit. There will be no circus - it will be a madhouse. TIRED !!!
gorbunov.vladisl

+4

April 1 2019 05: 10

As long as thousands of Bandera pigs are messed up with impunity on the outskirts, there will be no pro-Russian president. And you can clean out the outskirts of Banderlog only by force. Armed force.
1. Marzhecki
  
  +1
  
  April 1 2019 06: 34
  
  for the first time I agree with you
Marzhecki

+2

April 1 2019 06: 37

Quote: Bakht
And you do not discuss at all. You are uttering words. And you must believe. But I do not believe it.

Nobody is obliged to believe me. My article is my opinion, you can disagree, you have the right. But I set out my point of view, as I see it.
1. Bakht
  
  +2
  
  April 1 2019 11: 10
  
  I carefully read and agree that everyone has their own opinion. Therefore, I ask you to allow me to have my own opinion. And do not label. Opinion is one thing. But the writing style may be different.
Galar

0

April 1 2019 08: 07

how can he be taken seriously if he is a buffoon?
1. Oleg RB
  
  0
  
  April 1 2019 09: 28
  
  Well, actually, any jester can be a serious person, but on the contrary, this does not work
Sergey Latyshev

0

April 1 2019 10: 20

And, any of them is Russia's loss, but the oligarchs win. It’s in vain that banks are still pumping money up ...
ROBIN-SON

0

April 1 2019 10: 54

If Zelensky wins in the second round, then this is bad for us. Poroshenko is a clear enemy and most likely the Kremlin would not recognize the election results. And with the victory of Ze (and after him Kolomoisky), games with ukra will again begin. There are loans (which naturally will not be returned), gas transit and other gingerbread cookies. Fermentation will begin in LDNR. He promises them with three boxes, a bait, and then they will begin to press. Refugees in the Russian Federation.
And it’s too late not to recognize Ze’s victory in the second round. Everyone recognizes, but we do not?
1. Bakht
  
  +2
  
  April 1 2019 11: 14
  
  Why late? According to various estimates, in Russia from 2 to 10 million. Ukrainians who did not vote. Moreover, these are active people who have the right to vote. This is one of the points. The second - since Russian observers did not control the process, then there is nothing to recognize. Regardless of the results, it is now necessary to announce that the elections in Ukraine do not touch Russia sideways. And they will not recognize anyone.
Bakht

+2

April 1 2019 11: 44

According to the CEC of Ukraine, 11 million people refused to participate in the presidential elections. At the same time, 18 million 817 thousand 656 Ukrainians received ballots. The CEC claims that the total number of voters was 29 million 622 thousand 821 people.

So what do we have? Turnout is approximately 60%. This is not so bad. I thought it would be less than 50%. The leader scored about 30%. That is, for Zelensky in absolute numbers about 6 million voters. Also good for the first round. But this is also not bad for Poroshenko. In the second round, having an administrative resource and the ability to outbid Kolomoisky, Poroshenko has every chance of being reelected. The situation could be changed by the votes of voters from Russia and the Donbass. Therefore, they were cut off from the election.
koshmarik

+1

April 1 2019 11: 47

Do not steam with options. He is alone - Poroshenko will be president, Russia will recognize the elections and everything will go, as before, in an evolutionary way. True, in the light of recent events in the United States, a meeting between Putin and Trump is quite possible. Then we'll see.
Galar

+1

April 1 2019 12: 55

Quote: Oleg RB
Well, actually, any jester can be a serious person, but on the contrary, this does not work

What nonsense you say. A jester is not a profession - it is an internal content. To be a hypocrite means not to perceive reality realistically, but only as seen by one's distorted perception. You can demand an encore from this and you can throw tomatoes, if you don’t like something, you can give flip flops and dents, because this is a buffoon. A jester cannot insist on his own because he does not have one; a jester cannot make the right decision because his mission is to joke and grimace before people.
Vkd dvk

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April 1 2019 16: 59

Quote: Oleg RB
Port, how do you know Zelensky so well?

It's nice to be familiar with shit - that doesn't mean having lunch with him.
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  April 2 2019 08: 36
  
  That is, in truth, do you believe in the media?
Marzhecki

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April 2 2019 10: 19

Quote: Bakht
Therefore, I ask you to allow me to have my own opinion. And do not label.

I don’t hang tags on anyone. However, they are constantly trying to do this with me, literally through a comment.
kot968

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April 2 2019 12: 33

And the author did not think why Poroshenko is so stubborn and does not go to negotiations on Donbass? After all, even he did not start the war. But because he simply continues the line of partners who manage him. Who will rule any "president" of Ukraine until she comes to her senses and returns to the bosom of mother Russia, having previously cleaned out Nazism and Hohlyak debilism. I'm only afraid that not all will return and not soon.
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  April 2 2019 17: 48
  
  There are good long-term examples from people simply - where they did not fit with the calls of "putinpridi", or where they climbed, but got lyuly - there people have an ordinary peaceful life.
  Slavyansk is generally a good indicator - when Girkin’s gang escaped from there, what happened there? The world, no one shoots, children calmly go to kindergartens and schools.
  We in Belarus were very happy about this, for example ...
Marzhecki

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April 4 2019 14: 32

Quote: kot968
And the author did not think why Poroshenko is so stubborn and does not go to negotiations on Donbass? After all, even he did not start the war. But because he simply continues the line of partners who manage him. Who will rule any "president" of Ukraine until she comes to her senses and returns to the bosom of mother Russia, having previously cleaned out Nazism and Hohlyak debilism. I'm only afraid that not all will return and not soon.

The author generally thinks a lot of things constantly.
As for self-cleaning of Ukraine, the likelihood of this is approximately the same as that of the Third Reich at the time. That is zero. Here only through external force from mother Russia.
Marzhecki

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April 4 2019 14: 33

Quote: Oleg RB
Slavyansk is generally a good indicator - when Girkin’s gang escaped from there, what happened there? The world, no one shoots, children calmly go to kindergartens and schools.
For example, we in Belarus were very happy about this.

All the same could be, come Putin really. But he changed his mind.
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  April 4 2019 18: 09
  
  Yes, not even the point. Peaceful life people want