Insolence Tokyo: Japan will pay for the expulsion of the Russian military from the Kuril Islands?

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The day before, another exacerbation of an already unhealthy discussion took place around the fate of the South Kuril Islands. The head of Japanese diplomacy added fuel to the fire, saying publicly that a “peace treaty” with Moscow would also involve some kind of “military compensation”. What is going on, and where is the “squiggle” of the Kremlin external leading Russia policy?





Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Kono stated verbatim:

The conclusion of a peace treaty includes ending the state of war, resolving a territorial problem, as well as problems related to military compensation.


Everything is in this phrase of the Japanese diplomat. Let's try to figure out who owes what to whom:

At firstJapan fought in World War II in an official alliance with the Nazi Third Reich. And she lost. Her surrender was recorded on September 2, 1945. This fact means the actual and legal termination of the state of war, which in itself makes the existence of a “peace treaty” between the Russian Federation and Japan desirable, but not necessary.

Rather, it is possible to negotiate a treaty on good neighborly relations, however, for this there is absolutely no need to return to the dust-covered 1956 Declaration. Recall that it was in it that Khrushchev gave preliminary consent to the return of Tokyo Shikotan and Habomai. By the way, it’s fashionable to accuse Nikita Sergeyevich of transferring Crimea to Ukraine, which gave rise to today's territorial problems between Moscow and Kiev. The Khrushchev’s Declaration of 1956 can hardly be a moral reference point in foreign policy, and is something other than a “specious” reason for the return of the Russian Kuril Islands to Japan.

Secondly, no "territorial problem" between Russia and Japan simply does not exist. In 1951, the San Francisco Peace Treaty was signed between Japan and the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, where Japan refused, we quote:

From all rights, legal bases and claims to the Kuril Islands and to that part of Sakhalin Island and the adjacent islands, over which Japan acquired sovereignty under the Portsmouth Treaty of September 5, 1905.


As a matter of fact, besides impudence and a short historical memory, Tokyo has nothing behind it. That is precisely why domestic diplomacy raises questions, which, with an anguish, requires Japan to recognize Russian sovereignty over the Kuril Islands.

ThirdlyWhat kind of "military compensation"?

Yes, about 6 thousand Japanese lived in the Kuril Islands before the war. Japan, who lost the war, now offers the victorious country to pay their costs associated with the relocation and loss of property? Then Japanese impudence takes on truly unprecedented proportions. Maybe next, for the sake of friendship with Germany, to pay the costs of former residents of the Kaliningrad region?

However, experts immediately rushed to “reassure” us, saying the following:

Japan counts on all four islands, and the armed forces are deployed on the islands of Kunashir and Iturup. And if Japan receives these islands, it will compensate for our military expenses for relocating the Russian military to the mainland.


It turns out that if such an interpretation of Kono’s statement is true, then Japan is ready to pay for the expulsion of our military from our Kuril Islands. This "normal" one turns out to be a "fork" between the options, right? In general, such impudence of Tokyo is possible only with the complete spinelessness of the second side in the negotiations.
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  1. +4
    13 February 2019 11: 04
    In the Russian language there are many prepositions indicating directions.
  2. +4
    13 February 2019 12: 41
    All agreements, including 1956, must be canceled or broken, as they do not meet the interests of Russia. Everyone does it, only we chew snot. It's a shame for the power! Or is it a bribe?
    1. wax
      +1
      14 February 2019 22: 16
      It was not the Treaty, but the Declaration, and it contained conditions that the Japanese themselves refused to fulfill.
  3. +4
    13 February 2019 13: 00
    After all this, I would not give these islands to the Japanese purely out of principle. Too much they said. For the Russian Federation, now concessions are just a loss of face. And let Mr. Abe go to the grave of his dad, to whom he "promised to resolve this issue" and make himself a hara-kiri with the words "well, I didn't shmogla ...".
  4. 0
    13 February 2019 13: 15
    Is it really not clear that the policy of our President is quite reasonable, aimed at achieving Russia's interests by peaceful means. Speaking of peace and order, Putin has already shown how he can “persuade” a return to a peaceful resolution of the conflict. For example, did you convince Georgia? Convinced.
    1. +2
      13 February 2019 14: 09
      First, to compare Georgia and Japan, it's like jo ... with a finger; secondly, in Georgia there were a couple of Hummers and a couple of American advisers, and in Japan there are US bases, where there are more military personnel than in the entire Japanese army, so the "peace enforcement" operation, if you mean that, hardly comes Attention; and thirdly, what is the result of this conviction of Georgia in 2008 ?, the loss of diplomatic relations, etc., is this what we need with Japan?
      I’m not at all in favor of somehow retreating, they lost the war, they lost territory, everything, amba ...
      But to compare this with the situation in Georgia, in my opinion, is completely out of place.
  5. +3
    13 February 2019 13: 18
    In general, such impudence of Tokyo is possible only with the complete spinelessness of the second side in the negotiations.

    Thank you, Sergey, neither add nor subtract! It is interesting that this topic is always raised at a time when the authorities are interested in the reaction of the population to this issue. The EBN resolution "must be discussed" on the secret memorandum on the transfer of the islands says a lot! If then the deputy corps had not been raised, we would have no islands for a long time, an alcoholic with an irrepressible thirst for power would have drunk on drink! Who cares, listen to this: https://svpressa.ru/online/sptv/224055/ Iona Andronov, thanks to whom the wave that sank the transfer of the islands in the 90s arose.
  6. +3
    13 February 2019 13: 33
    As everyone knows, with a country that lost the war, the winner has the right to demand money as an indemnity, so to speak, payment for damage. And if we, Russia, are surrendering our territory to Japan, then everyone understands that we were defeated. As the Chinese general Sun Tzu teaches:

    The subjugation of other states without entering into a military conflict, is - the ideal of complete victory.

    Therefore, the desire of Japan, as the country of the winner, to demand and take indemnity from the defeated Russia as a pleasant bonus, in addition to the seized territory of the enemy, is understandable.
  7. 0
    13 February 2019 17: 34
    You just need to pick up all the documents from imperial times. But Lavrov can’t afford it ...
  8. +2
    13 February 2019 18: 07
    The world has not changed, as only power was respected, and respected.
  9. +3
    13 February 2019 20: 51
    The Japanese, if they don’t understand well, they need to announce that we don’t need this fucking peace treaty either. Let them stick it to themselves, they themselves know where. Maybe it will reach them.
  10. +2
    13 February 2019 22: 02
    It turns out that if such an interpretation of Kono’s statement is true, then Japan is ready to pay for the expulsion of our military from our Kuril Islands. This "normal" one turns out to be a "fork" between the options, right? In general, such impudence of Tokyo is possible only with the complete spinelessness of the second side in the negotiations.

    First time or what? Have you paid for the withdrawal of the GSVG? Paid! True penny! But what an example for the world community! This is no one, and have not forgotten anywhere. sad
  11. +1
    14 February 2019 07: 52
    Dialectical materialism teaches that the struggle and unity of opposites is a source of development. People are driven by interests that create contradictions, since they may well be opposite. The need to resolve the emerging contradiction is obvious and they are always resolved, however, it takes time and resources. Liberals always call for an agreement, but the trouble is: very often the opposite side either simply does not want to do this or requires concessions on the other side. And this is no longer negotiations.
  12. 0
    14 February 2019 09: 02
    8 September 1951 of
    San Francisco Concludes Peace Treaty Between Japan and Allies

    "THOUGHTS OF THE URAL MEN"
    About the Kuril Islands.

    Tell the President that the contract is signed:
    Believe me, not many years have passed since then!
    Lavrov is not up to date, he studied poorly, apparently ...
    Let’s sign, because there are no objections!

    AM LIQUIDS.
  13. 0
    14 February 2019 09: 07
    Another daily revelation. Not bad. Now we are ready to pay, post yesterday, not post the day before, etc., etc.

    They scribble at the speed of a machine gun, or does each Japanese rank make his proposal?
    1. +1
      14 February 2019 15: 35
      They forgot that they signed their CAPITULATION aboard the battleship Missouri in September 1945! But the Kremlin is not determined to remind them of this!
  14. -6
    14 February 2019 12: 19
    ... from the point of view of the norms of international law (if you left comments, it means that you are aware of the case on the legal side of the issue, the problem of the ownership of the islands), to a greater extent, Japan is right. In Russia, the population of 40-60 years old has a taste of the former great-power chauvinism. It's pointless to argue with such. We live in the 21st century, in a young developing country. It is necessary to change yourself and your attitude to issues that (yes, yes) are not pleasant to the taste. I, a 29-year-old resident of the Far Eastern Federal District, a teacher of history and social studies, a senior teacher of three universities - FOR the transfer of these islands. My point of view is not narrow-minded. Therefore, this is my realized FOR.
    I did not live, and I will not live better from this decision. But, from the realization of the moment of restoration of historical justice, I will receive moral pleasure. Including pleasure as a lawyer and professor of international law.
    1. +3
      14 February 2019 15: 38
      Yuri Anatolyevich, yes, you need to be PUT into the NECK with the teacher. work, so as not to muddle the brains of students! Although I doubt very much your teaching!
      1. 0
        16 February 2019 13: 03
        ... gspdi, and Troll, and doubts, drive to the neck. Well, you have the right. I will not stand up to you on the same level, my patriots, counterparts. The opinion that was expressed, the point of view, and nothing more. The formation of your thinking is understandable and clear. She is just not close to me. As for someone's hurt feelings, I apologize.
        Sometimes I forget in what a beautiful country I live. Where there is no place for a point of view that is not close to most.
        * hello to a lawyer colleague)
    2. wax
      +1
      14 February 2019 22: 30
      Mister teacher, if you are talking about the right, then there are no gradations in it to be right to a GREAT (or lesser) degree.
  15. +4
    14 February 2019 14: 06
    Quote: Yuri Anatolyevich
    I, a 29-year-old resident of the Far Eastern Federal District, a teacher of history and social science, a senior teacher of three universities - FOR transferring these islands. My point of view is not philistine. Therefore, this is my conscious FOR.
    I did not live, and I will not live better from this decision. But, from the realization of the moment of restoration of historical justice, I will receive moral pleasure. Including pleasure as a lawyer and professor of international law.

    As a lawyer himself, I’ll say: woe to your students with such a teacher.
    1. +2
      14 February 2019 15: 40
      He is the same TEACHER as I am the Pope! He is a troll!
      1. +1
        15 February 2019 06: 57
        This is a new version of the "daughter of a Crimean officer" laughing
        Lawyer! Historian! Teacher! Far East! And he talks about "historical justice"!
  16. +2
    14 February 2019 18: 49
    Quote: S.V.Yu
    Yuri Anatolyevich, yes, you need to BE REDY into the NECK from the teacher. Although I doubt very much your teaching activities!

    You can say my finger was removed from the keyboard! I am joining! hi
  17. +1
    14 February 2019 20: 36
    I don’t understand something. Before the revolution, Ainu lived in Hokkaido, a nation different from the Japanese, and these Ainu had citizenship of the Russian Empire. It turns out there are documents that part of the gold reserve of the Russian Empire settled in Japan and there was even an agreement that Japan gives this gold to Russia. Well, why do our diplomats listen to arrogant Japanese claims and do not show anything in return?
  18. +1
    15 February 2019 07: 34
    Japan acts expediently for its own interests. It’s time for us to act like that.