Why does Putin not intervene in the events in Ukraine?

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Watching all this circus, which is being played out in Ukraine on the eve of the elections, an ordinary Russian citizen scratches his turnip and thinks, until we all endure it? Hence the claim to the Supreme, as he allowed it, and what is he going to do about it? The claims are very justified, he himself asked these questions more than once. And I did not find an intelligible answer, the weakest consolation is that the Supreme knows something that mortals are not supposed to know, and therefore we have been observing such unintelligible actions since the signing of Minsk-1.





In principle, analyzing the situation in hindsight, I came to the conclusion that the Supreme made an unforgivable mistake by not finishing this hydra in 2014, when he had such an opportunity. Now we are only scooping up the consequences of this, and they will still scale as the territory becomes atomized (until we saw only flowers, the berries will go later). Moreover, the berries of the Russian Federation are at risk of collecting not only from the infuriated Nenko, but also from her curators on both sides of the Atlantic. Someone who’s not in the classroom, but recently the number of people insane has doubled, with Trump cooling towards her (which doesn’t say anything about his surroundings, especially the democratic one), Britain has kindled her with sudden love, in which this interest has warmed up as Brexit’s approach, and I hope that after this and Madame May’s resignation, she will leave us behind (I write us because I myself live in this God-damned territory surrounded by a yellow-black fence behind barbed wire).

To facilitate the task of the ordinary Russian citizen, who has already tired of the 404 country and the events connected with it, where on the eve of the election the number of candidates for the presidential honorary title has already exceeded the threshold of 40 people, I will only outline the underwater part of this iceberg, which is steadily sailing towards the Russian Titanic. And if you want, if you don’t want, collisions cannot be avoided. “Why doesn’t the Supreme take the helm into his own hands?” - you think in a panic. “What does he think to himself there ?! Does he really think that he will carry, hoping for a Russian chance? ” Relax, gentlemen, he doesn’t think anything like that. It’s just that the time for making decisions has been irretrievably lost, now almost nothing depends on it. He has no leverage over the iceberg, but you yourself won’t let your Titanic deploy your Titanic abruptly for the sake of “partners” (well, at least we don’t take into account the majority of you liberals! Poor, what to take from them ?! )

I must immediately clarify if one of you still thinks that Ukraine is a tame beast in the hands of curators, then I should disappoint you. Manual, of course, manual, but within tolerances. The curators in 2014 only took control of the project, but he began to move towards the Maidan under the influence of internal forces. And these forces are called - local oligarchs, who, in fact, have muddied this action, hoping to squeeze Janek’s access to the trough, but have lost control, becoming completely dependent on the United States. Now, in connection with the loss of interest of the new owner of the White House in the country 404, they again perked up in the hope of pushing the former favorite away from the trough (who still rests, does not want to leave), and themselves wander to the remnants of the lord's pie (Lord, when they are already get pumped ?!). Putin, unfortunately, has no influence on them. From the word "completely"! Selling comprador elites behave quite predictably, and if for Putin this was a revelation, then this is his general cant. Such characters behave the same at all times - they fall under those who offer more, or go over to the side of those who have real power (remember your glorious history and the corrupt Comrade Mazepa!). Pindos, (excuse me, the Yankees) acted more far-sightedly, they did not buy the elite in bulk, but invested in a long, spudding youngsters, planting them on Western trinkets and moral values, recruiting and cultivating the future elite through cultural exchange, which quite consciously changed its historical gene code, exchanging it for Western Russophobian. Hateful to you and us, Rabbit-Yatsenyuk is one of them, but the list will be long, starting with Nalyvaychenko, the former ex-head of the SBU, recruited by the CIA even at the time of his work in America as consul of the embassy in 2001-03, and ending with Pinchuk, son-in-law Kuchma, an oligarch, the owner of factories, newspapers, steamboats, a loyal student of Soros.

In order to simplify your understanding of the process, I will remove the veil of secrecy over certain candidates for our future presidents, and everything will become clear and understandable to you. We will not consider this whole crowd of 40 people crowded around the throne, there are a lot of spoilers and technical candidates, starting from the namesakes of the possible leaders of the rating, and ending with the competitors in the role - the clown Zelensky is not the only such clown there, he will have to compete with the protege Pinchuk, singer Vakarchuk (but there will also be enough singers there, as they already got us all!). You understand that the election is not a cheap pleasure and to pay 2,5 million UAH only for participation, not everyone can afford it. This money will be returned only if you get into the 2nd round, and therefore it is clear that they pay 100 thousand dollars (the approximate equivalent of 2,5 million UAH at the rate) or rich policy with an eye on the upcoming parliamentary elections, or those who are behind these nominees, pursuing their purely technical goals. These Karabas-Barabasov we will consider.

The richest and most intelligent of them is Rinat Akhmetov, the owner of Shakhtar football club and Ukraine television channel (you understand that this is only the surface part of his iceberg), who suffered most from the Maidan because he did not muddied him, (he and Yanek quite satisfied). Akhmet in the pre-election race put on Petya, since he was doing business with him according to the Rotterdam + formula (coal supplies from Donbass and the Russian Federation at the EU price for suckers from Ukraine), he was able to earn the most from the oligarchs after the Maidan, slightly correcting the staggering for him, his financial situation, which once again speaks of his mind and resourcefulness, and that is why I would not discard the figure of the drunken Confectioner from the accounts. Akhmetov never threw his money to the wind in vain, which means he now expects to get to the end.

What can’t be said about our two other boobies, Levochkin, the former head of the Yanek Administration, and Firtash, the gas tycoon, the owner of the Inter channel, who stepped this Maidan into steam in 2013, and most of them were injured when they entered the case Yankees. These boobies have now been put on Yuri Boyko. The fact that he wasn’t a checkpoint became immediately clear as soon as Akhmetov’s associates split the Opposition Bloc, having nominated his candidate for the presidential election, Alexander Vilkul, who, by pulling votes from Boyko himself, doesn’t go to the 2nd round, but Boyko doesn’t let him go either, because their electorate is common. Why Putin through Medvedchuk put on Boyko, I don’t know ?! I don’t say anything about the figures of the two goats behind him (well, let’s not blame him - politics is unprincipled!), But the fact that Petya and Ahmet standing behind him immediately buried this choice, thereby raising their stakes, does not honor the Supreme and his advisers. Third, after Maidan and Minsk, the failure of GDP in Ukraine. Now with its extension for another 5 years. And this is beyond the powers of the GDP, as the president of the Russian Federation, which, in general, makes the situation stalemate.

The third ball, in addition to Poroshenko and Vilkul, which Ahmet launches for the election, is the leader of the Radical Party Oleg Lyashko, a person with low social responsibility, who successfully characterized such people as GDP, or more simply, a passive homosexual who does not even hide it (and what is it? ! Ukraine - CE Europe ?!). Lyashko should pull back the voices of Yulia Tymoshenko, and allow Pete, according to Akhmet’s idea, to go to the 2nd round. There, Petya, in theory, still loses to her, but apparently they have a plan for this case.

Will Bena Kolomoisky, Poroshenko’s fierce enemy, who was second to Maidan after Akhmet in the Ukrainian Forbes list, and who has now fallen almost to the bottom of the top ten and hiding from criminal prosecution either in Switzerland or Israel, be able to break it. In any case, Benny put on Yulia, and if she wins, but for now everything is going to this, then Petya does not shine anything good. Prison is his home! And this is even in the best case. Therefore, you understand, the battle will be hot. The figure of the clown Zelensky, on whom Benya also puts, does not distract your attention, it’s technical a candidate whom Benya can always take off from the stages, exchanging for something more advantageous for himself. In the meantime, Zelensky draws back the voices of both Julia and Boyko in the southeast and Petya in western Ukraine. The funniest thing is if Zelensky enters the 2nd round with Julia. Then Julia will not be laughing! He is the only one who can defeat her in the finals. The only thing that saves the situation is that they have a common owner. But if Zelensky is completely in the hands of his Karabas-Barabas, then Yulia has a temporary alliance. Everyone is afraid of Julia! Throwing partners is her corporate identity. But then two scammers came together. Because there is no place to put stigmas on Ben Kolomoisky in this sense, he is the main scammer of Ukrainian business. Such a Benya Creek of our day is cheerful and reckless. He really throws fun, it’s even inconvenient to be offended even after that. It was he who owned the famous phrase that "only cowards pay taxes!" I think, most likely, they will agree among themselves.

I don’t feel like talking about the rest of our political midgets. They won’t go anywhere, hang out and sink into oblivion. The main zashkvar will be between those whom I have listed above. But our oligarchs, who have set the wrong way, according to their custom, when the outcome is clear, will fall at the feet of the winner and will lick his shoes. It’s only a shame that in any situation there will not be a Kremlin protege there. If Petya wins, Putin will not recognize him. If Julia, then GDP will wait for her first steps and elections to the Rada. This is the destiny of all losers who do not impose their will on others, but work out and minimize damage from the enemy. How the Kremlin ended up in such a role, I can’t put my mind to it.

PS While writing the material, it became clear that Vakarchuk was not nominated as a candidate, which means that the elites who bet on him through Pinchuk decided not to torpedo Zelensky in the 1st round (namely, Zelensky Vakarchuk took away their votes and in western Ukraine, making it difficult for Kolomoisky’s protege to enter the 2nd round). And we are not talking here about Ukrainian elites, but about the American ones, because about Pinchuk’s connections with the Clintonoid Democrats, Republican neocons (neoconservatives, the Republican left wing opposing Trump, whose leader, until recently, was Senator McCain, who was a former Bose resident) and directly with Soros himself and Madame Clinton, does not know in Ukraine only the lazy. At the same time, another protege of the American Democrats, Soros’s foster iron colonel Anatoly Gritsenko, chairman of the Civic Position party and former secretary of defense, recruited by US intelligence back in 1994 while studying at the US Air Force Academy, is still electing thereby, Poroshenko already has votes in western Ukraine. And this means only one thing - the elites on the other side of the ocean opposing Trump have refused to support the current president and all their hopes are connected with the new one. Who will they even question for me? But Poroshenko’s exit even in the 2nd round, not to mention the victory in it, is very complicated. For him, this is the end, so all options are possible, up to the military. Maybe this is exactly what Trump's opponents are pushing him for. Moreover, who Trump put on is still unknown.

PPS And the last, as a berry on the cake, Petya, making a statement on January 29 about his nomination for a second term, did it in the same tie that he showed up at the inauguration on June 7, 2014. Either he does not have more ties, or he urgently needs to contact his old institute comrade, the fugitive President of Georgia, Comrade. Saak and ask him where he buys ties? My heart feels that it cannot do without them. Either have to eat a tie, or hang on it.
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  1. -16
    4 February 2019 16: 10
    I read the presented opus and thought about what kind of reader it is intended for ... Only with complete amnesia and lack of intelligence, you can believe the contents of the article. The author of the article is probably unaware that Ukraine and Ukrainians simply do not want to live in a swamp
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      1. 0
        10 February 2019 12: 43
        You will not believe it, but your Ukraine has not rested against anyone.
    2. +6
      4 February 2019 16: 43
      He got in the wrong way, bro. Your site: peacekeeper.ua
    3. +6
      4 February 2019 17: 58
      Volodimir, yes you are a prophet!) And yet yes: modern Ukraine - this is barbarism!
    4. +1
      4 February 2019 19: 29
      You didn’t get there.
    5. +4
      4 February 2019 20: 02
      Ek, you are led! Just like a devil from incense ... Such as you, it will soon be possible to take to the museum. To the freak museum. I hope Petya will take you into account in his will?
    6. +5
      4 February 2019 21: 22
      these Ukrainians amaze me .. we Russians need your Ukraine, because you Ukrainians constantly need a shepherd .. you’re like sheep, you can’t find your way. for you anyway, who will have you, if only they fed and watered for free. it’s a pity that the normal population suffers because of you, in cold and hunger .. scum ..
    7. +4
      4 February 2019 21: 40
      Hey, Volod, they don’t serve here. You would dump it on your "censor", they will feed you there.
    8. +3
      5 February 2019 16: 53
      Volodimimir (Vladimir) - in order to write anything on the site, you need to remove the pan from your head, everything mixes up there and it comes to visions. Contact a psychiatrist, maybe he will help!
    9. +5
      5 February 2019 19: 43
      I dare to remind you that your Ukraine has never had anything to do with Crimea. Just like the Donbass and many other territories. When they were transferred to Ukraine, your compatriots did not greatly sympathize with those republics from which they chopped off territories. For example, you took Bujak from mine, that is, the right-bank part of the Odessa region from the Dniester. Well, never in history did it belong to Ukraine. There is the city of Belgorod Dniester, for example, this Moldavian White Fortress, built by Stefan in the year when you still didn’t even have hetmanism. And I very much wish that we someday return it, just as Russia returned Crimea.
      I always knew that you won’t hold Crimea, but I was mistaken in terms. Now there is a hope that our lands will return in my lifetime. And let Ukraine be the same as it was when joining Russia, that is, several regions around Kiev.
      And Mordor is your guys. Just when you live in shit, it stops smelling. And from the outside it can be seen very clearly. You to Russia, as to Mars on foot. I wish you to continue on this path, for it is not long left.
      1. +3
        6 February 2019 06: 39
        no, I do not want Ukraine to follow the path that the USA and the aggregate West have drawn for it. Our people live in Ukraine. This is mainly in the main, our people. There are few freaks there.
  2. +5
    4 February 2019 16: 21
    Or maybe VVP is right that he did not clear the trough in 14 year. The rite of Russian exorcism on such a number of Westerners, moreover, ideological Westerners, would give rise to another series of Holodomor, which would have been more difficult to hide than in the last century. Perhaps the leadership is implementing the strategy of Chechnya-2000, when the territory is blocked and cooked in itself. And when it becomes clear that everything is cooked and there are no new handouts for the broth, then the correct ideological cleaning takes place. When the slogans "Putin help" will sound from the heart, then the time will come to act. And now, the east and the center may accept, but the west with the OCU is unlikely. And so Western Russophobia is not so bad. One lives very calmly on this topic. There is something to keep TV channels on air.
    What exactly is that the GDP knows more than ours, and whole institutions are engaged in analyzing the situations in it. And here we are only wondering sofa!
    1. +2
      4 February 2019 19: 59
      Do you know what moods prevail in the Donbass now? Putin there really loses his sympathies, only they have nowhere to go. Looking at them and how the GDP handled them, and looking at how they treat the last sane Ukrainians (or rather, the Russians living on this god-damned territory), ordinary Russians who offer us to kill ourselves against the wall and solve our problems ourselves, the last GDP sympathies are turning away from Russia, realizing that all hopes were in vain. As a result, after 5 years - you will already have no one to save there, there will be a completely zombie population! 100%! Do not believe me - look at Georgia
      1. -3
        5 February 2019 07: 15
        You yourself are sane, compare the Slav, Russian and Georgian?
        1. +4
          5 February 2019 08: 33
          we are all Soviet, just some have already forgotten it! Stalin was also a Georgian, if there were more of them, you look and Russia would rise from its knees!
      2. +3
        5 February 2019 10: 40
        I think yes! There are fewer sympathizers. This is the tragedy. No "Russian world" or "greatness of the state." All this is a cliché of Western media to warm up the public. In fact, everything is mercantilely simple. Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier for control of southern Europe, taking into account the Turkish flow and other Syrian affairs. Donbas with Russians or non-Russians, whatever the difference, is interesting only as a bargaining chip. I read the book of the ex-premier Azarov, he speaks of the Russian leadership as immense pragmatists. I think this is where the dog is buried. Donbass and the east of Ukraine will be in a semi-position until a negotiable president sits in the square.

        RESULT: no one is going to save anyone if he does not smell of profit or profit. And to entertain yourself with pink glasses looking at the Kremlin is not worth it, unfortunately. Now or in '14, taking another problem area is more expensive. In the philistine cities of Russia after the Crimea, everyone grumbled that they were supposed to feed them. And then a whole region, and even without a master. The salvation of drowning - you know the continuation yourself.

        I am writing this with great sadness in fact ...
        At the very same time, relatives and friends are full in the non-occupied (or it was full, now I don’t know already ...)
        1. +1
          5 February 2019 17: 05
          https://cont.ws/@sensei/1217579 - а вот что на эту тему думает Сатановский, и я с ним согласен
          1. +1
            5 February 2019 18: 47
            I am familiar with your position, you are constantly expressing it in recent articles. But I have logical inconsistencies:
            1) Satanovsky (we pay tribute to the Jewish blood, without this there is nothing, although I am absolutely tolerant of other nations and skin colors, but I think that their heart hurts more for the Jordan than for the Lena River) does not explain why he needs the western border along the Dnieper or across Lviv. Nobody will throw rockets here from the territory of romania or moldavia. It is easier and cheaper to send a Wakhabite if the enemies have an appropriate target. The result will be the same and the reputational costs are lower. May our department "K" forgive me for such statements.
            If our "partners" want to inflict physical damage on us, it is easier to do it through the Baltic states or to use a submarine to poke around. It seems to me that in modern conditions, thinking in terms of Warcraft is futile. The state border is now not on a contour map, but in the heads of citizens.
            2) You say, and Satanovsky echoes you that time is lost. I do not agree. We looked at the Crimean reaction, we looked for the western defense of Poroshenko, we looked at Ukraine. What do we see?
            The reaction of the West is predictable and slow. For five years, we have less localized finances and strategic resources on our territory. Turn off the swift or arrange a blackout, it does not matter. The country will not rise. It’s hard for them to agree. Decision making is very slow. In war, this is doom.
            Protecting a chocolate magnate is not a defense at all, but a group defending its own interests. Chocolate King is another pressure tool. Arrange with the defense and the king will not touch you (topic about SP2).
            Ukraine itself is a difficult territory. essentially the border of west and east, with barbed wire. Not a single language, no dominant church, no independent history - i.e. without braces, and even with a different worldview. There is a priori hot spot. While Kuchma sat on two chairs, everything went more or less. Then the chairs began to disperse and I had to choose - there were conflicts inside and with the neighbors.

            Question: what is the point of seizing territory ???? There are no resources (there was Crimea and the gas transportation system: Crimea is settled, the gas transportation system will not be needed soon), only a headache. There would be no Ukrainian question, would there be a Belarusian or some other. Here you need to understand who plays this game and what is the gain? For the people, for the idea, no war is being waged.
            1. +1
              6 February 2019 11: 08
              The Russian Federation thinks like an empire, but behaves like a limitroph. You already decide for yourself somehow, who are you? I’m just sorry for the power! The States in Venezuela showed how to behave in these cases. And so do the powers that be and spit on them the rest! Russia is the most powerful militarily power in the world, with the most combat-ready army - you must not allow anyone to wipe their feet against themselves! Satanovsky and I are sorry for the power, but it is important for you how much Jewish blood is in it. Yes, he’s more Russian about the spirit than you, ready to explain everything to everyone why the Russian Federation allows humiliating Russians around the world - Ukraine is far from the only one, see the Baltic states, where Russians are relegated to 2nd-class people, in Kazakhstan, by the way , the Russians are being pinched when Nazarbayev leaves, the situation will become even worse. And the world has always respected the strong. Everything is strong for the strong. See in the USA and learn!
              1. 0
                6 February 2019 14: 56
                When I was little and went to school, we had one bully there. I made friends with him, because lived in the same house. He once told me, if you want to be cool, so that everyone will be with you, beat the weak.
                Now he is in prison.
                You attributed to me the weakness that the law of power does not seem right to me. You urge your audience to be American in spirit, to be such hooligans who beat the weak to be strong.

                I would like to quote Danila Bagrova:

                What is the strength in, brother? In the money?
                And I think that power is in truth. Who is right is stronger.
                1. +1
                  7 February 2019 08: 28
                  I agree with you and Danila, but, alas, in this world the opposite is true - whoever is stronger is right. But the right to be strong still needs to be earned and defended.
                  1. +1
                    8 February 2019 15: 32
                    We deserve, we only do it in a peculiar way - through our own suffering. But, in my opinion, this is the purest power, the most deserved and the most indestructible.

                    Returning to the issue that was discussed with you. I came up with such an illustrative example:

                    You are sitting on a park bench, and a bum is sitting next to you on the same bench. And the bum is covered in wounds, infection has already begun and most importantly does not want to be treated. Why forcibly treat him then?

                    I do not say to ourselves, we ourselves are unhealthy, and with the prefix very much. But the main thing is to want. If Ukraine for the most part does not want a Russian pill. From the last course of Russotherapy, self-directed exacerbations have begun, maybe not already?

                    Crimea is, you know, such an organ in this homeless person that could be taken away and the body accepted it; it didn’t have its own blood and rejection. And Donbass? I was in Donetsk in the 13th year, we held meetings and conferences there. And I remember coming out of a business dinner, I said to my own people: damn the Nazis. The Donetsk residents, although they spoke Russian, but there was such a contrast between themselves and the Russians that smacked of Goebbels.

                    And you offer this homeless person, that is on the bench next to you, take to your house and make him heal. He will drink aspirin for half a year, and then he will again buckle. And every time it gets worse and worse.

                    Conclusion: if we now do not consider Ukraine as a part of Holy Russia, for which we are fighting, as part of a common history, to which we have every right. Let her find her own way, let her heal her wounds. Let herself, if she wants, ask for help and shout "Putin, send troops."

                    And we will endure and wait ... But we will not step down from our bench, and we will not give up the living organ, which used to belong to the homeless. But there is a risk of infection from this comrade ...
  3. +3
    4 February 2019 16: 31
    The figure of the clown Zelensky, whom Benya also puts, does not distract your attention, this is a technical candidate whom Benya can always remove from the stages, exchanging for something more advantageous for himself

    Obviously, Zelensky Bene in order not only to prevent Waltzman from winning, but not even to be allowed into the second round.
  4. +3
    4 February 2019 16: 33
    The funniest thing is if Zelensky comes out in the 2nd round with Julia

    So it will be

    Then Julia will not be laughing! He is the only one who can defeat her in the finals.

    I do not agree, since in the second round, when it will be necessary to directly select the president, people will be afraid to vote for the comedian. In the first round, that is, preliminary, yes, without question, they will vote. In the second round, all this low anti-rating of Zelensky will not help him - instead of a comedian they will vote for some kind of no, but still politics (Julia).
    1. +1
      4 February 2019 19: 27
      Quote: Expert
      In the second round, all this low anti-rating Zelenskgo will not help him - instead of a comedian they will vote for some kind of no, but still politics (Julia)

      Julia, let's say, is a politician. She has long been on the sidelines and her rating is more likely an echo of the past. Who is behind her? She herself? (McCain then died) And Zelensky is Benya. He will give out a bag of rice and chicken, and voters will run to vote for his protege.
      It does not seem to be the worst option for Ukraine and Russia, since nobody is letting Kolomoisky’s main business into Geyropu, and he has a future in Russia. Benny is not, he will agree. Otherwise, the next five-year plan cannot be extended.
  5. +2
    4 February 2019 16: 37
    And this means only one thing - the elites on the other side of the ocean opposing Trump have refused to support the current president and all their hopes are connected with the new one. Who will they even question for me?

    Apparently, the European elite - for Julia. American - for Zelensky. Russia, of course, is better than Julia
    1. 0
      4 February 2019 19: 30
      Quote: Expert
      Apparently, the European elite - for Julia. American - for Zelensky. Russia, of course, is better than Julia

      Julia grazes in Washington. Looking for a second McCain.
      Zelensky is Benya, and Benya is far from being a stupid person. It is always more pleasant to work with smart people - I am for Kolomoisky (Zelensky).
  6. +3
    4 February 2019 16: 39
    Either have to eat a tie, or hang on it.

    Better second option
  7. +2
    4 February 2019 16: 52
    The West used Putin's inexperience in the first ten years. And then it was too late! crying
    1. -1
      4 February 2019 22: 02
      Ignorance of the laws does not exempt

      Why did this "inexperienced" climb into the presidency? Comrade Ulyanov (who was driven by Lenin) wrote:

      not every cook can rule the state
    2. 0
      5 February 2019 04: 23
      Well, the 14th year is the second 10 years. And this is not about inexperience, but about professional caution. But maybe it was a moment when a bad world is still better than a good quarrel. Are you sure that the States would not have launched a ground operation, as Breedlove called for in his speech in Congress? Was Russia able to win if the USA, and after NATO, landed in Kiev? Or would this mean a new prolonged intervention of the Entente throughout Russia? And what did the arrival of Burkhalter in May 2014, when the GDP did away with the protection of the Russian population of Donbass, mean? I would be grateful for a balanced comment if you have anything to say on the topic.
      1. +3
        5 February 2019 07: 28
        The answer is short. It’s immediately obvious that you are not special in military matters. 1) On what grounds could the States get into ukra? To do this, we need the request of her official representative. At that time, such was the legally elected President Yanukovych. And it was he who made this request to the Russian Federation. The Federation Council of the Russian Federation gave such a resolution to GDP. What he did not use, the question is not for me. 2) Look, where is the USA / NATO, and where is the Russian Federation, in relation to the borders of the Ukrainians. The military has such a thing as operational deployment. According to the latest NATO exercises in the North. It became clear to Scandinavia that NATO was necessary for this, at least for 3 months, and this in conditions of excellent infrastructure of the North. Europe, and the result was deplorable. 3) Another concept for military escalation opportunities is logistics, delivery of military hardware and military contingent to the remote theater area. But for the Russian Federation, this theater is by no means remote, which is why we do not go to Venezuela, and that is why we have had certain difficulties in Syria. For the United States, war on Ukrainian is worse than Vietnam. For the Russian Federation, in 2014 it’s not even a war - but the occupation of strategically important points in the absence of opposition from the other side. In 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not yet ready for this, either mentally or technically. What can not be said about 2019. The train to Ukrainian irrevocably left for the Russian Federation. Alas and ah! The only thing you are right about is in the Swiss president - it was after him that everything turned around. Maybe when we find out what was the matter there?
        1. +1
          6 February 2019 04: 45
          Under item 1: Assad did not invite the United States to Syria, nor did he invite Turkey; Maduro did not invite the United States to his home, but the ground operation against him is being considered seriously.
          According to paragraph 2: and what, the Russian Federation would begin its movement deep into Ukraine, if the Americans deployed their limited contingent in several cities of Ukraine, as Bridlav insisted on that?
          According to paragraph 3: more than a quarter of the Ukrainian border falls on NATO member states - Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Turkey, and three months in harsh conditions of confrontation is not such a long time for NATO, but huge for the Russian Federation due to its quick exhaustion resources.
          States will not fight in Ukraine themselves. They are for this and launched a hybrid war.
          Conclusion: Wolf, you did not seem competent to me. Read your answer to me. In it a show off. Ugly, not manly.
          1. +2
            6 February 2019 11: 26
            For me, all the people here are sexless, a man-woman no difference, we are not on the bus. I answered essentially. 1) If you do not understand anything in military affairs, then do better than others, leave it to specialists. Turkey is in the SAR without a mandate, what does it change? She does not care about the mandate, she defends her interests. By the way, we do too. The fact that our interests coincided with those of Assad was lucky. There will be no US ground operation in Venezuela. From the word at all! Even Colombia will not go there. They are separated by mountains. Maduro has a fairly efficient army. Nobody will fight with him. The states will choke him economically and financially. Alas and ah! 2) Americans are already in Ukraine, if this is a discovery for you, then this is not for me. I’m not even talking about their advisers and instructors who train soldiers against us under Lviv and Zhytomyr. And not about the CIA, which occupies an entire floor in the building of the SBU in Kiev. I'm talking about Ochakov, where the Americans are building their base. Where is the reaction of the Russian Federation ?! Aw! 3) On the third point, complete nonsense, without comment. Z.Y. I am not a dollar to love me, and not Pushkin, so that everyone likes. Next time I won’t answer.
        2. +1
          6 February 2019 08: 06
          You did not add item 4. Russia is not Serbia, and it cannot be defeated by a local operation or tactical contingent, we need a combination of actions in the Pacific theater of operations, the Middle East, strengthening the Arctic direction, minimizing the conditions for the Russian airborne forces to invade Norway and armored units in Poland, with further access to the operational space. such events will stretch out so the inflated budget of the Amers, neither Congress nor the Senate will give such permission to Trump because not a single NATO ally has been attacked. Plus, we have the Strategic Missile Forces, and they also remember this, incl. for 404 they will not fight. even a limited contingent will not be substituted for our skating rink. zezdit :)
          1. +1
            6 February 2019 11: 28
            another strategist ...
            1. 0
              6 February 2019 12: 40
              sofa ...
              1. 0
                7 February 2019 08: 30
                appreciate your humor!
      2. +2
        5 February 2019 10: 54
        I think that there was no plan to tear away the territories. Only to the extreme. No one will fight with a country where there are nuclear weapons and the supreme commander with steel faberge. Now conflicts have become more complicated. Everything really looks like chess games, where a heated conflict is just the move of one of the pieces.
    3. 0
      5 February 2019 07: 24
      Quote: mumiee
      And then it was too late! crying

      Because he began to use them!
  8. +3
    4 February 2019 22: 00
    Do you want songs? I have them!

    All this is nonsense. Russia's only competent move against Ukraine is the non-recognition of the election results, regardless of who won. Grounds? Non-participation in the elections of at least 3 million migrant workers, non-participation in the elections of Donetsk and Lugansk. The latter, by the way, automatically means their official exclusion from Ukraine.
    Well, as a consequence of the non-recognition of the results of the "elections" - the termination of any negotiations with Kiev. Who sits there in the chair doesn't matter. Whether Poroshenko, even Tymoshenko, or even Donald Trump himself. And of course, there is no one to negotiate with either about transit or about Minsk ... 1,2,3 or 10. No difference.
    Once again - the only competent move - there is no such country Ukraine for Russia. And they can "choose" even a bald devil. This is their personal sexual affair.
    1. +3
      5 February 2019 01: 19
      And why then recognized Gunpowder in 2014? Donbass, by the way, didn’t take part in the elections then, why didn’t they recognize him? A bunch of questions! And why? One wrong move entails the rest, and the wrong move. It was necessary to bring down Ukrainian in 2014! Or even then do not recognize gunpowder.
      1. 0
        5 February 2019 05: 55
        It was necessary to bring down Ukrainian in 2014!

        You decide on your preferences.
        For the information on the link you posted contradicts what you are broadcasting here. https://www.proza.ru/2019/01/11/1526, https://www.proza.ru/2015/10/26/1897
        There are such lines. With whom I personally agree.

        Every couch analyst who in his life cannot even move a cupboard without help, thinks he is at least the President ... But the result is always the same - the cupboard remains in place, and the caravan (country) goes further, not paying attention to the barking of dogs (dogs) figurative, both local and foreign nationals) ...
        1. +1
          5 February 2019 07: 38
          These are old texts. The last "Mister VVP" is a constructor from two other years 2011 and 2014. My views on the figure of GDP have undergone changes, despite the fact that I remain in the opinion that there is no better president for Russia at the moment. But this does not prevent me from being critical of him.
      2. +3
        5 February 2019 17: 47
        Missed opportunities. This was a strategic mistake. Poroshenko could not be recognized in any case. But I don’t know what they advised the president.
        The situation in 2014 in my understanding. Failure to recognize the coup. Recognition of Yanukovych as President in Exile. But ... Yanukovych then rushed first to Kharkov, then, it seems, to the Crimea. And everywhere he was sent to a well-known address. This is a mistake of the regionals. Therefore, Putin did not bet on the "lame duck". Crimea was taken, it seems to me, by force. Crimea could not be given away under any circumstances. In any development of the situation, Crimea should be part of Russia. By the way, even before the Maidan, Saakashvili warned that Crimea would leave.
        The situation with the Donbass is more complicated. Even now, Donbass cannot be recognized as independent, let alone join. This will be another defeat for Russia. Donbass should be part of Ukraine. Just power in Ukraine should be different. So Putin’s second mistake is to stop the DPR forces in August 2014. I needed a land corridor to the Crimea and Odessa.
        Again, this is a view from the side. The decision on the Krymsky bridge was made in March 2014, at the same time a decision was made to build a railroad bypassing Ukraine. So in the spring of 2014, it could be concluded that the task of the Russian Federation is to preserve a united Ukraine without Crimea.
        In general, this is correct. But tactical moves, like recognizing Poroshenko and stopping the offensive, were wrong.
        1. +1
          5 February 2019 19: 10
          Poroshenko’s non-recognition is an emotion, moreover, destructive. I believe that everything was done correctly. More precisely, with the least losses in the current situation.
          1. After Georgia 2008, it became clear that some had a sharp increase in appetite. Strategic regions for us began to infect Russophobia. 08.08.08 showed that reconnaissance is being conducted against us in battle. We reacted and made the right conclusions.
          2. The Russian economy is critically dependent on the market for energy resources. To deprive us of such a market is to kill in the bud. There was a desire for the golden billion to make us a gas station, a quiet haven where you can refuel if you wish and for little money. But you cannot do business on your own. Selling gas to someone else, acre of the golden billion, is unacceptable.
          3. Ukraine - a painful question for us was played out according to the same plan, but this is not reconnaissance in battle, but the real move of the enemy, to which we had to answer, remembering the main goal - to provide ourselves with a strategic opportunity to trade with the golden billion at our prices the rules.
          We took the fight. We are not conducting a hybrid war on our territory and not on our own. We did not surrender the banner; in addition, we seized the Crimea. And Syria is generally a blow to the balls. For him, a separate bravo.

          There is only one loss, in my opinion, and it is fatal - it was necessary to buy in the fat 2000s not the Hulks with the Witsels at Zenit, but invest in an elite that was independent. Act as the enemy does - bring up the children of Ukraine.
          1. +2
            5 February 2019 20: 42
            I do not agree.
            World trade is a two-way movement. Selling only to the "golden billion" is not our method. Now, if you don't sell them anything, the result would be much better. It is necessary to sell to those who need this product. Emerging Markets. What is happening now. True slowly. Strange, but for some reason the States now really want to become the same "gas station".
            Poroshenko’s non-recognition is a real move and a clear indication that a coup has taken place in Ukraine. The recognition of Poroshenko meant the legitimization of the Maidan. This is where the strategic mistake is. If extrapolated today, it’s the same as recognizing Guaido in Venezuela.
            Investing in the Ukrainian "elite" is generally a waste of money. The Ukraine project is an anti-Russian project. There can be no Ukrainian pro-Russian elite by definition.

            They make a Ukrainian by killing a Russian in him

            O. Buzina
            1. +2
              5 February 2019 22: 07
              I completely agree that "Ukrainian" and "pro-Russian" are antonyms. I agree 100% with the words of O. Buzina.
              1. +2
                5 February 2019 23: 38
                The film was filmed in 2009. What was not clear? Shirokorad wrote the book "Russia and Ukraine. When the Guns Start Talking" back in 2008. This is just for information.

            2. +2
              6 February 2019 11: 33
              comrade advised not to invest in corrupt elites, but in the population, as the Americans did all this time - the so-called soft power
              1. +2
                6 February 2019 12: 13
                How do you imagine "investing in the population"? Open Russian schools? Send textbooks? Are you from Donbass? Until 2014, what textbooks did Donbass schoolchildren use? Why did some part of the population of Donetsk and Lugansk rush to Kiev?
                I perfectly understand the difference between a person and a state. People can be wonderful. And the state of Ukraine itself exists. It is a fact. But the very idea of ​​Ukraine is hostile to Russia. And Ukrainians (true Ukrainians) understand this very well and therefore they kill Russians. Both psychologically and physically. There is nothing to be offended here. The enemy must be killed in war. But in Russia they continue to bleat something about the "brotherly people". There are Russians living in Ukraine and there are Ukrainians who dream of cleaning up the territory. You have long and popularly explained "we will never be brothers."

                PS This is reminiscent of the dream that the German proletariat would not shoot at the Soviet proletariat. Everyone knows the result
        2. +2
          6 February 2019 06: 44
          At least, it is extremely unfortunate that they gave back that part of the Donbass that was behind the militia. Minsk Minsk, but leaving their territories was a mistake. And very sorry for the people.
        3. +2
          6 February 2019 11: 30
          But what about the inhabitants of Donbass? 5 years between heaven and earth, have you thought about them ?!
          1. +2
            6 February 2019 12: 32
            Question. No catch. Just for my erudition ...
            Yanukovych left Kiev for Kharkov, then to Donetsk, then to Crimea. Why did not Donbass accept him?
            Why Kharkiv did not accept it, I can understand. With difficulty, but I can, why Crimea did not accept it is absolutely clear. But what did the "residents of Donbass" want?
  9. +1
    4 February 2019 22: 46
    Wolf, everything is simple ... GDP is Russia's first liberal. Not one of those, such as dog and free-growing species. But quite decent. Why do you think he was admitted to such a high post? And the thing is that he shares the views of liberals of the 70-80s. He is from there. More from those times.
    Therefore, until he understands that the cancerous tumor must be cut, there will be no sense ... But he will not understand. He will not understand that metastases are already in the body of Russia. Bandera is already here. Together with the "zrobitchans". And we already have a lot of them ... Yes, they have been here since the days of the USSR - I know two for sure (though both are aunts). The problem is that when he realizes that it is necessary to start "surgery", he will not have time ... From the very beginning (when he became stronger in power) it was necessary to issue an ultimatum (and 404 would not have fulfilled it, in any case ) and warning - do not correct the situation, Russia reserves the right to eradicate Nazism and nationalism by ANY methods (up to the use of force or the extradition of dangerous subjects to its territory for trial, EVEN BY ILLEGAL METHODS). And to begin to clean up - the terms to give sky-high (like the amers) ... we would have tolerated (we would have kept them for 20-25 years ... these nits do not live in prison anymore, I heard). A couple of dozen would have been closed - the rest would have rushed to amers. Then the oligarchy could be squeezed.
    ... And now ... What now? .. Only the next 38th to start (when Beria NKVD-shnikov, engaged in the illegal creation of criminal cases about "enemies of the people", stupidly shot - about 2 thousand ... if I'm not mistaken. .. somewhere flashed ... I can't find it in any way ...) ... or how ??????
    1. 0
      5 February 2019 01: 28
      I’ll give a couple of links to my old texts, they weren’t allowed here, the GDP behavior becomes clear from them - https://www.proza.ru/2019/01/11/1526, https://www.proza.ru/ 2015/10/26/1897. Tomorrow there I will post an article about Boyko, which was cut here, so save the page in your bookmarks, there is a dofig of texts, starting from 2014 there are only more than 150, you will read at your leisure, if that. There are also about successors to GDP and about everything else - https://www.proza.ru/avtor/delon
    2. +1
      5 February 2019 22: 17
      As long as the Yeltsin Constitution is in effect in Russia, Chubais's indulgences to plunder the country are legal, and the oligarchs received everything "according to the law." I am sore from the mockery of the Russians, which in Chubais's words that he had to give them, the bandyugans, a "final piece of paper", otherwise they would have taken everything ... So, the confiscators are "out of business," alas. .. That is why now Putin cannot simply return everything to Russia. Can not. Even if he really wants to.
  10. +2
    5 February 2019 05: 44
    ... The Supreme made an unforgivable mistake, not finishing this hydra in 2014 ...

    How so?
    Well, they would have recognized Bandera’s power illegitimate, and then what? Kosovo also exists beautifully without our recognition. And Ukraine is some kind, but still a country.
    As an option, many considered the introduction of troops. But the United States and NATO did just that. Draw Russia into a similar war. And believe me, they would not have given such a war a quick end. But Ukraine is not a small Syria. Where we even win, but the end of the war is not visible.
    So, do not put a shadow on the wattle fence. You don’t know much. Unlike the Supreme. hi
    1. 0
      5 February 2019 07: 40
      Valerie M. answered above. I’m sure that you know even less than mine!
    2. +2
      5 February 2019 22: 03
      How Kosovo exists cannot be called beautiful. But why did Poroshenko still recognize the president of Ukraine (the Maidan, as you know, was immediately called an illegal seizure of power in Russia) - the answer will be clear in a few years (even the March 31 elections will not explain anything). Everything else will remain idle talk.
  11. +3
    5 February 2019 06: 11
    Many critics of the Supreme completely forgot the story. Our story with you. When, for the sake of postponing the inevitable war, Stalin was ready to sign a contract with the devil. And signed. With Hitler. And all in order to maximally alienate the inevitable war. For which the Red Army was not quite ready.
    GDP is, if not in the same, but in a very similar situation. And the war will probably be. Large or small, but the probability is still high. Those who are close to the army know that their condition is not so hot. Everything is only in the process. The rearmament and restoration of combat readiness of units and subunits is far from complete.
    So that the Supreme is doing everything right.
    1. 0
      5 February 2019 07: 44
      I, in principle, for you.
    2. -2
      6 February 2019 06: 47
      Stalin did not believe that Hitler would go to war with him. So many people were killed, trying to warn the USSR. But Stalin still believed in his untouchability. But the Red Army was not ready because the then Supreme, killed its best strategists, fearing for its own greatness.
      1. +1
        6 February 2019 09: 04
        Valerie, unfortunately, you poorly know the history of the Great Patriotic War. Especially her initial period. I would say that you do not know her at all.
      2. -1
        7 February 2019 17: 16
        The Red Army was not "sharpened" for a defensive war. If this were so, then there would be no such losses in the initial period.
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    1. 0
      5 February 2019 08: 37
      Sophistry, the substitution of concepts, on the verge of conspiracy theories - I do not believe it! (c) Stanislavsky
      1. +1
        5 February 2019 08: 53
        Sophistry is a story to tell that Putin (the bourgeoisie group behind him) was simply confused and did not make a decision on the Donbass in time, etc. In general, everything with leading to the figure of the president is a game. He is not the king priest under the absolute monarchy.
        1. 0
          5 February 2019 21: 51
          There are no verbal quotes in your post - there is free retelling.
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  13. 0
    5 February 2019 13: 33
    A bunch of experts know better than Putin what he thinks. The main thing is not to read the GDP interview and consider all fools.
  14. +1
    5 February 2019 17: 04
    Of course, when dealing with presidential candidates, the author misses the most important thing - significant changes have taken place in the world - "Ukraine, at the moment, is not needed by anyone!" Neither Putin, nor Trump, nor the American democrats, nor Europe, should have started their analysis with this, the Ukrainians are given the opportunity to sort out their oligarchic shit on their own and choose the best of the worst. This is the answer to the title of the article, but Putin does not interfere and will not interfere in this shit, because Russia does not see anyone in Ukraine - only an enraged neighbor who needs psychiatric treatment, but at his own expense. Forget about Russia, gentlemen, Panov, she has long been a nobody for you.
    1. +1
      5 February 2019 21: 55
      The fact that no one needs Ukraine is nonsense. It’s just impossible to do anything with it right now because it’s expensive, because she has a fit of insanity with a penchant for violence.
      1. +1
        6 February 2019 06: 51
        you can at least not write nasty things about the people who live there. This is the responsibility of each of us. Do not blame for power, do not swine yourself.
        1. 0
          6 February 2019 11: 41
          Totally agree with you!
    2. 0
      6 February 2019 06: 50
      the Supreme Government may not see a tidbit in Ukraine, but people, normal, adequate people, see that people are suffering there. And, ultimately, in the Great Patriotic War it was not the Supreme who decided the fate of the country, but people.
  15. 0
    5 February 2019 23: 03
    Putin plays by the rules of others and the needs of the Russians do not concern him because the Jew himself, or the half-breed, is the same thing. There are no Russians left in Russian Ukraine, only Jews, Americans and the Ukrainian bastard. Russia is a gold mine from which all Putin’s rich proteges have. They are also grabbing over the hill. Children there, yachts there, palaces there. And Russia will soon be like Ukraine, but later.
    1. +1
      6 February 2019 07: 51
      Timur, and that are there really no Russian Jews, or Russian Tatars, or Russian Ukrainians? In the end, the concept of homeland, it does not depend on the nationality of the ancestors. Homeland is the language, this is the place in which he grew up, these are childhood comrades, classmates. Or you, Timur, all around were Timur, and it is Timuria - your Homeland?
      So you know what rules Putin plays by, but by what rules do you personally play? For example, I can see that you are an enemy of Russia, because Russia has always been and will be a country of many peoples, and you are trying to quarrel these peoples.
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 11: 44
        And again, I am for you !!! 100500+
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  16. +1
    6 February 2019 07: 46
    Opus is an opus, that's just a little we are working to form a positive image of Russia in the eyes of the zombified Western propaganda of the (Ukrainian) Russian population of the former outskirts of the empire, mistakenly called Ukraine. As far as I remember the Austro-Hungarians fussed. It’s unnecessary to break firewood and the brightest one perfectly understands this, according to the Donbass, and this is my personal opinion, it was possible to help more actively, however, while the oligarchs and their children, power and property are foreign in power, there is no need to wait for patriotic steps from the leadership. For objectivity, take a look at Abkhazia, remember when we recognized it? Now answer how many investments of the Russian state have been invested in this union country?
    That's right, the answer lies on the surface ...
    Donbass is also waiting for it, while marginals and pro-Western slime bells, as well as worthless and not professionals in power, the Russian people do not have to wait for the unification and collection of their lands, because people like edra and the government think of their own pockets and stomachs, the Russian people are only a means of enrichment for them , to say nothing of our brothers who need real help. And we can help right now, and it will not be difficult for us. For example. Why not place tv signals transmitting balloons around the perimeter of the borders and broadcast independently to the whole territory of our stupefied brothers? why not completely withdraw all capital from v / na yk? what are our banks doing there? why not confiscated the property of accomplices of the fascists-Bandera in the Russian Federation? Why is there no force rescue operation to rescue their citizens from the dungeons of the SBU? or are there no such precedents in the world? there is. so, the essence of all this is only one, only an independent state is capable of pursuing a policy to protect its own population, I don’t speak about country 404, and so it’s clear who is whose slave, I am interested in my Homeland, my country! But it’s obvious that until we break the shackles of Western imperialism, we will continue to dig deeper and deeper into today's swamp. Sorry, but the topic of help 404 returned me to a stormy reality. Unfortunately. and yes, I agree with the author, the supreme misses the threads of the game and if he does not make a move with the horse and does not enlist the support of the Russian people, such a party is doomed to failure.
  17. 0
    6 February 2019 08: 14
    Quote: Valerie
    For example, I can see that you are an enemy of Russia, because Russia has always been and will be a country of many peoples, and you are trying to quarrel these peoples.

    these peoples have never lived in friendship anyway. this is called an imaginary fraternity, when national minorities are at the helm, and the Russian is doing the work. The fact that now Jews are at the helm, and Russians are pushed in is not a normal process. Civilization is driven only by white people, the rest or auxiliary functions, or simply consumers.
    I am really an enemy of this state of affairs and such a Russia.
    1. -1
      6 February 2019 11: 47
      You are just a fascist, call a spade a spade! We already have one - Biletsky with his Azov. We ask Timur mercy for ukra - there the Nazis are held in high esteem!
    2. +1
      6 February 2019 13: 02
      your idea is understandable, to bring discord between us and other peoples inhabiting Russia. it will not work.
      the populist terms that you use with limited support in society will not find understanding in wide sections of society. but in special services your posts, inciting ethnic strife, will arouse "interest."
      my advice to you, easy cornering.
  18. 0
    7 February 2019 08: 26
    Quote: Wolf 1
    You are just a fascist, call a spade a spade! We already have one - Biletsky with his Azov. We ask Timur mercy for ukra - there the Nazis are held in high esteem!

    Not a dude, I'm not a fascist. Fascists are Italian nationalists, I am a Russian nationalist, and I feel bad about Jews. Is it clear?
  19. +1
    7 February 2019 08: 34
    Quote: Jon Snow
    but in special services your posts are inciting ethnic hatred,

    a situation where national strife is being fanned is not created by me, but by Putin. his top managers are not made up of Russians. and in general, do not give a damn, Russia is a Russian state, Russians built cities, created economies, fought for their state, and national minorities, such as Asia or the Caucasus, as soon as the Russians left, now they all come here, so they themselves can’t do anything without Russians. But the Ukrainians, Duc generally ruined the state, millions leaving.
    So it’s better to be a nationalist than an internationalist.