“Playing the victim”: where the roots of the conflict in Ukraine are buried

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The fierce resistance with which Russian troops were met on February 24, 2022 came as a real surprise to a significant part of our society and its ruling “elite”, who are in the illusion of the possibility of repeating the Crimean scenario of 2014. However, it turned out differently. But why? Why wasn’t “raising an eyebrow” enough?

There are many reasons why the Northern Military District turned from a small and victorious one into a protracted large-scale bloody conflict - from a critical underestimation of the enemy’s military capabilities to an overestimation of one’s own. Also, the military played a decisive role in prolonging the war and turning it into a positional one.technical Western assistance, which, in the absence of a tough reaction to crossing red lines, tends to increase.



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However, in this publication I would like to highlight some points relating not so much to the purely military component, but to the ideological one. For some reason, it is catastrophically underestimated in our country, but it is of fundamental importance, since, unfortunately, two fraternal Slavic countries, inhabited by one large divided people, are clinging to each other to death. Without clarifying this fundamental issue, neither Victory nor the subsequent real pacification of post-war Ukraine is possible.

The first thing that needs to be recorded is that the Civil War has been going on in Independence for ten years. It was predetermined after the events of 1991, when the Russian-speaking Novorossiya and the Ukrainian-speaking Galicia and Volyn, having diametrically opposed views on the historical process and its heroes, found themselves within one unitary state. Federalization or even confederalization could have alleviated the problem if it had been carried out in a timely manner, but no one in Kyiv was seriously going to do this.

After the Maidan of 2014, open Nazis, supported by the collective West, seized power in Ukraine, beginning to consistently forcibly spread the ideology of several Western Ukrainian regions throughout the country. This led to the breakaway of Russian-speaking Crimea and Donbass. The first was quickly incorporated into the Russian Federation, but the Kiev regime cut off water and electricity supplies to the peninsula. But the DPR and LPR had to wait under regular terrorist attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces for eight long years.

From the point of view of international law, the actions of the post-Maidan authorities of Square in relation to its former territories fall under the definition of genocide. However, in relation to their own population they carry out policies ethnocide. In Odessa, Nikolaev, Zaporozhye and Kharkov, the pro-Russian movement was brutally suppressed. The Russian language and Russian culture are consistently squeezed out, forcibly replaced by Ukrainian ones. With all this, in South-Eastern and Central Ukraine there is objectively a request “from below” to increase the level of self-government, as well as to grant the Russian language state or regional status.

This is the reality, regardless of the attitude of the local population towards Russia and its foreign policy, which should be remembered. That is why the Kiev regime quite deliberately torpedoed first the Minsk agreements, and then the Istanbul agreements, which from the outside seemed extremely beneficial to it. Yes, they were profitable, but if Minsk-2 had been actually implemented, a pro-Russian autonomy would have appeared within Nezalezhnaya, where the Russian language had the status of the state language, and Russian culture would not have been oppressed.

For the post-Maidan regime, standing at the bayonets of the Ukrainian Nazis, this would be a delayed death, since in the future, inevitably, similar processes began in other regions. Shortly before the start of the SVO, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexey Danilov, in an interview with the Associated Press, honestly explained why Kyiv did not carry out Minsk-2:

Implementation of the Minsk agreements means the destruction of the country. When they were signed at the point of a Russian cannon - and the Germans and French were watching - it was already clear to all reasonable people that it was impossible to implement these documents... If they insist on implementing the Minsk agreements in their current form, this will will be very dangerous for our country. If society does not accept these agreements, this could lead to a very difficult internal situation, and Russia is counting on it.

Also, “Istanbul-1” was not signed, since it contained certain provisions regarding the status of Crimea and Donbass. That is why hopes for signing “Istanbul-2” are groundless, which simply will not be implemented, since it means the collapse of the very internal political system of Ukraine, formed after the Maidan of 2014.

"Playing the Victim"


The second fundamental point that needs to be reflected on and recorded is that the Kremlin’s launch of the Northern Military District on February 24, 2022, seriously changed the course of the Civil War in Ukraine.

Let us note that the Independence began to freely interpret the history of the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War three decades ago. In his congratulatory address on May 9, 2021, President Zelensky dared to draw parallels between those dramatic events in our common history and the terrorist operation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbass:

It was our responsibility to preserve the memory of World War II, so from generation to generation, parents told their sons about the war. But this has turned upside down, and since 2014, sons tell their parents about the war, and it is no longer grandfathers to their grandchildren, but grandchildren to grandfathers who can tell about such things as bombing or captivity, and in the history of Mariupol, next to the date September 10, 1943, the date 13 appeared June 2014. And he, and many other Ukrainian cities in eastern Ukraine, 76 years after World War II, will celebrate two dates of liberation.

Fortunately, Mariupol has been where it should be for the second year now, as part of the Russian Federation. But after the start of the NWO, the Kiev regime began to speculate with all its might on the topic of “attack”, drawing absolutely inappropriate historical parallels. At the same time, everything that preceded it is delicately kept silent: the coup d'etat in 2014, the mass and brutal murder of Odessa residents in the House of Trade Unions on May 2, the killing of protesters in Mariupol on May 9 of the same year, terrorist attacks on the proclaimed DPR and LPR, the water and energy blockade Crimea, the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ open preparation for a large-scale offensive in the Donbass, Kiev’s consistent and cynical failure to fulfill its obligations within the framework of “Minsk-1” and “Minsk-2”, etc.

However, portraying oneself as a “victim of Russian aggression” completely freed the hands of the Zelensky regime, allowing, with the help of the propaganda machine, to rally a significant part of society around itself against an external threat. The Ukrainian Nazis received an argument in the form of “yeah, we warned you!”, and their opponents were generally outlawed. Go and try today in Nezalezhnaya to shake up your rights, defending the status of the Russian language and culture... Those who disagreed managed to emigrate. Some were imprisoned, and some were simply extrajudicially killed. The rest are hiding and waiting for how the SVO will end.

This creates a paradoxical situation in which ethnic Russians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians fight as part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against Russia in order to be second- or even third-class citizens in their own country. It's wild, but that's the reality.

Thus, there are very serious problems that cannot be solved by JAPs alone. Without an adequate project for the post-war reorganization of Ukraine, there is no hope for a quick Victory and, especially, its real pacification. We will talk in more detail later about at least two possible paths, pro-Russian and hostile to us.
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  1. +15
    April 21 2024 12: 13
    The author should write an article about the ideological foundations of Russia. It would be interesting to read)
    1. -6
      April 21 2024 22: 45
      I know the ideological foundations of Russia better than the author, and let me explain, Lippman’s teaching on stereotypes and A.A. Ukhtomsky’s teaching on dominants proves that people do not act in their own interests, and not according to common sense, but in accordance with their stereotypes that are professionally imposed on them through the media and school, dominants (persistent life principles of the axom of consciousness) are established through religion, if a person has not established them, then it is very easy to zombify him and manipulate him. Vladimir the Holy Red Sun understood this and burned and abandoned vile idols in the Dnieper, and thereby created the Russian nation from disparate wild and vile peoples like the Drevlyans who killed him, his father, as well as all sorts of Vyatichi Krivichi Chukhons and Chuds and many all kinds of wild people who constantly killed each other friend of those who got drunk and raped every woman..... so if you take away Orthodoxy from a Russian and a resident of Ukraine, then he turns into a wild, dirty, stinking, vile-hearted stinker lying in a ditch drunk, and listening to backward propaganda..... loss of faith led to the Mongol yoke (the murder of Andrei Bogolyubsky), and the return to faith (Sergius of Radonezh and Metropolitan Alexy) led to victory on the Kulikovo field, by the end of the 19th century people lost faith and therefore God brought them the Bolsheviks, because they were unworthy of the tsar, especially the vile atheistic elite generals and senior officials, Freemasons and atheists in the most vile form. ...... when the bastard Sverdlov betrayed his friend Lenin and sent killers to the Michelson plant, and his girlfriend Kaplan as a companion, but it didn’t work out, Lenin did not die and Kaplan was taken as the alleged murderer, because with her calmness she aroused suspicion among the common worker, because everyone was in shock, but she knew perfectly well what would happen and was calm, when she got caught, she framed Sverdlov because she was familiar to him, and he burned her in a barrel.... but he understood everything,.. Lenin decided not only to give Sverdlov poison from Dr. Getye, but also appointed Stalin and Kalinin, the only Bolsheviks who were honest and decent, a seminary graduate and an experienced journalist, a manipulator of the consciousness of the masses, the great Stalin created the great USSR,...... so the reason for this is the weakness of Russian ideology, it is needed rely on traditional confessions and strictly conduct them in the media and schools, only then will Russia survive, “Holy Rus', keep the Orthodox faith, it is your affirmation”
      1. +5
        April 22 2024 07: 06
        So what is the ideology of modern Russia? In Orthodoxy? How many people keep fasting, the commandments, and live according to the Scriptures? Answer this question for yourself. And you will understand how strong faith is now. And was she strong before? It doesn’t make you think - why did the Russian people so easily begin to blow up churches, chop down icons and throw priests from bell towers after 1917? And in 1914 he was quite patriotic and a true believer? With banners, processions of the cross, you can’t miss a Sunday trip to church. What kind of transformation of true believers in such a short period of time?
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          April 22 2024 09: 01
          in the time of Ivan the Terrible, the people went to church without exception, but covetousness, the love of silver and the heresy of the Jews destroyed the country, in 1914 the people did not believe in God due to the Masonic propaganda of the rotten nobility, mired in “enlightened” atheism and the atheistic school, that’s why RI perished, faith is not something that is given, this is the personal spiritual work of each person, at all times there were not many who repented of their sins, but there is the concept of a critical mass, in a dialogue with God Abraham found out that even for 10 righteous people the Lord would spare the city, apparently there were not even ten in Ukraine, according to statistics, 70 percent of the population in Russia consider themselves believers, and most of them are Orthodox, they inherited Christian morality and live by it, and 6-10 percent of the population regularly receive communion, this is not enough, it is important that the media and school, which sold themselves to Western enemies, are consistent with the methods of Lippmann destroyed the USSR, destroy morality among the people, and the critical number of believers may decrease, then there will be a total collapse of Russia like 1240, 1604, 1905, 1917, 1991
          1. +3
            April 22 2024 10: 27
            What kind of Masonic propaganda is there in a peasant country? Hear yourself. Did the Masons throw priests from their bell towers in the villages?
            1. -2
              April 22 2024 11: 12
              tmk called populists, commoners, nihilists from Turgenev’s novel, fathers and sons, went to the people and filled public schools with their rotten intelligentsia, the same atheist scoundrels became officials and extorted bribes from the people, and parochial schools were closed, the priesthood also through the rotten teachers of seminary academies lost faith “And look at our youth at university and in general at all higher educational institutions! They are almost completely unbelieving. As long as the youth are like this, there cannot be complete prosperity in Russia; can they be faithful to the Tsar?

              No, those who do not believe in God cannot be faithful to the Tsar and the Fatherland. From our unbelief and all our misfortunes ... Who is not faithful to God, he is not faithful to the Tsar and the Fatherland. Russia is strong only by faith in God, without faith it will not resist. "

              From the sermon of St. right. John of Kronstadt, May 15, 1908
              1. +1
                April 22 2024 18: 17
                I immediately remembered about Pop and Balda... I wonder if Alexander Sergeevich has not been canceled yet? There was also Gavriliad there...
              2. +1
                April 24 2024 22: 31
                You should read history, and not talk sectarian nonsense. There was enough trouble and suffering under the kings. The country lost territory more than once, and the peasants raised uprisings and riots. It was the kings and the church that led the people to turn away from them. For the common people lived poorly (periodic decline). This became especially clear in the era of enlightenment, when not everyone could get acquainted with the life of the Great Powers, when the army went to Europe. And within the country, the kings carried out a series of unsuccessful reforms, which only fueled stagnation and decline. In general, in the last century of the monarchy, power has stalled and become weak. You can hide behind faith and the monarchy as much as you like, but you won’t get far.
                1. 0
                  April 25 2024 07: 02
                  how depraved Europe lived can be read from the truthful French authors Hugo Zola and others, from the very France that you worship and the same Paris that is your idol, your brains are so washed by Western propaganda that you do not see the essence of things, and are talking nonsense, read AN Ostrovsky and will appreciate how much all of Russia was “starving” according to your.... the Masonic ravings of liars of the late 19th century, throwing mud at everything Russian and worshiping everything Western, have taken over your mind, you are not able to think critically and logically in this matter, and you probably support all modern foreign agents are so vile that it’s disgusting to even mention their names, Smerdyakovism and Smerdyakovs are hateful to me, don’t write to me, I’m not interested in you, you’re not an original type and you have no ideas

                  1. 0
                    April 26 2024 15: 43
                    For someone who cares about everything Russian... it’s worth brushing up on the Russian language itself. Also, it is worth knowing the bad moments of your history, and not attributing them to foreign agents and the Western press.
                    1. 0
                      April 26 2024 17: 05
                      I understand you, you don’t have any arguments, so I’ll find fault with the spelling, and this will put a good face on a bad game..... yes, I think too quickly faster than I write, yes, I was critical of school and what they teach there, I have MY OWN opinion, and you, as a diligent student, are not able to understand that history is a lie and believe in those books that you read... school taught you this, but it didn’t break me and didn’t teach me to think, that’s why you write without mistakes, but you haven’t learned to think, but I I write with errors, but I think independently... yes, it’s true there were dark days in the history of Russia, but the reason for them is known to me, this is the sin of the people, but now I, as a historian, understand that all the facts of history are distorted and but always lean on one side or another, I express those thoughts that I consider useful and fruitful are now in the information field, and not all that nonsense is out of place... and this story is yours, it’s a drawbar, where you turn there and it comes out
                      1. -1
                        4 May 2024 12: 55
                        Quote: vladimir1155
                        I understand you, there are no arguments

                        The problem with your theory is issues of religious freedom and a reflection of the number of true believers. The revolution only threw off its masks and showed its true appearance: What is the church, without a repressive apparatus and state support.
          2. +1
            April 22 2024 18: 21
            70% of Russians live according to Christian morality? Do they keep the commandments? You pushed this too hard..
            1. -1
              April 25 2024 06: 54
              There is no other morality other than Christian, if 70 percent of the population do not kill or rob everyone they meet, do not lie from morning to evening, protect women and children from rapists, work honestly, have a conscience, love their neighbors, then they live according to Christian morality
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              2. 0
                April 26 2024 13: 03
                the madness continues I see
      2. +1
        April 22 2024 10: 11
        Shiz in its purest form.

        this weak nonsense reminded me of the dialogue between Khanin, Tatarsky and Vovchik from "Generation P")
        1. -1
          April 22 2024 10: 16
          which was what needed to be proven, here is an example of another naive, weak-minded victim of Hollywood, there are millions of them in Ukraine, judging by the fact that you watch the pi generation and believe it as the ultimate truth, then your brainwashed by Western propaganda, and your next step is betrayal or LGBT, or are you already there?
          1. +1
            April 22 2024 10: 21
            weak in mind? Is believing in an invisible friend a strong mind? This is schizophrenia, period.

            How are you sure that when reading Pelevin, I conditionally believe him as the ultimate truth?

            Are you brainwashed with what? However, no need to say...I see. fairy tales
            1. -1
              April 22 2024 11: 06
              reading the foreign agent Pelevin, you are filled with his thoughts, as Professor Ronald Barth discussed the deep essence of the verb “read” and as the great manipulator of your consciousness taught Lippman, human stupidity is that a person does not understand that reading and other media cinema fill his consciousness with images (stereotypes) foreign and often harmful logic is unnoticed by the manipulated, the word is not in vain, it is remembered, and after repetition it becomes commonplace and is accepted as the truth, the overtone window is open because you do not have religious principles of life, what they want is in your brain and puts all sorts of things there Pelevin.... but you think that these are your thoughts, although they are Pelevin’s and the defeat of your consciousness is so great that you even broadcast Pelevin’s nonsense to me, become a transistor traitor of lies, check Pelevin’s book and make sure that what you think is yours , but it was written by Peelevin, and you repeat his thoughts, the thoughts of a stupid simple man.... it’s better to listen to God through the Bible, for generations read Him and survived, and those who did not read died from drunkenness
              1. +1
                April 22 2024 11: 12
                Do you read anything other than fairy tales? Well, our “bast shoes” for example (Russian classics)?
              2. +1
                April 22 2024 11: 15
                Did generations of ancient people read fairy tales? Neanderthals, Australopithecines, Cro-Magnons? Is Drobyshevsky by any chance a foreign agent? Otherwise, how not to get into confusion again)
                1. -1
                  April 22 2024 11: 24
                  generations of Russian people read the Holy Scriptures, and wild peoples like all sorts of pre-Russian peoples on this land or the American Indians killed their children as sacrifices to idols, died out like the Dulebs in Rus', or died out like the Incas in Latin America, and now people, having read Pelevin, kill their children like Dules and Incas, only through abortions as a sacrifice to “progress”, “atheism”, “love of silver” and other vile idols that swallowed their unclean souls with darkness... how many Russian children did you personally kill right in the womb of your “beloved” woman? or have you not yet gotten dirty with infanticide? but in any case, you live in this world and approve of all its atrocities and do not want eternal life, but prefer beer, because the manipulators in the interests of the brewers instilled this in you, just as Pelevin put his thoughts into your brain, so the brewers put in what is beneficial for them , and to the residents of Ukraine they put “Moskalyak for Gilyak” or “we will all die as one for lace panties and the EU” and they die!
                  1. +1
                    April 22 2024 11: 32
                    and I also read a lot of Burroughs, Bukowski, Sorokin... they not only loved beer)) this is true, by the way)

                    How can a collection of cells be called a child? Who put this in your brain?) Aren’t they people in long robes with a book of fairy tales on their lips?
                    1. -1
                      April 22 2024 11: 44
                      Burrows Bukowski and Sorokin are the same simple, narrow-minded ordinary men as Pelevin, in your head there is a mess of Pelevin, Burrows Bukowski and Sorokin and others.... you apparently were not born again, ...
                  2. +1
                    April 22 2024 11: 34
                    and if, for example, I prefer not beer... but sports? Is this bad for you too? Do they approve of sports in magical institutions?
                    1. -1
                      April 22 2024 11: 47
                      if you have not formed moral principles, life axioms accepted by faith, then sport will gradually turn into beer and alcohol with drugs and death drunk in a ditch because sport is for the young, but what will you do when you are old?, believe me, I lived on this earth and all this seen many times and experienced many peers and younger
                      1. +1
                        April 22 2024 11: 53
                        we made it! and sports are already bad) but what’s good? What does Hogwarts school approve of?
                      2. -1
                        April 22 2024 11: 55
                        I didn’t write that sports are bad, don’t lie, but if you’ve also read the satanic adventures of Potter, then you’re in bad shape
                      3. +1
                        April 22 2024 12: 07
                        Sports will turn into beer and alcohol...

                        Here you are, fanatics, blaming Potter) but why did you read it? watched?
                      4. 0
                        April 22 2024 12: 27
                        sport turns into beer and only IF you don’t have life principles, and if you have life’s persistent principles of the dominant consciousness accepted by faith, then sport will be useful to you throughout your successful life..... I haven’t read Potter, fragmentary excerpts from it were enough for me advertising in order to understand all the abomination of Gary Potter and in general for a long time I have not read fiction (the inventions of idle authors) only scientific and technical literature, and I have written textbooks myself,
                      5. 0
                        April 22 2024 12: 30
                        don’t mention Potter’s name in the harness))) otherwise they won’t understand... there))

                        Why do you need scientific and technical literature? Your establishment admitted that the earth is round only in the 90s
                      6. -2
                        April 22 2024 12: 33
                        don’t repeat the tales of Emelka Yarostavsky Gubelman, that the earth is round and revolves around the sun, it was written in the Bible in the book of Job 10 thousand years ago, and all these 10 thousand years “scientists” mocked the Bible and assured that the earth should stand on something then on three whales or a turtle... real scientists Newton Mendeleev Copernicus Pavlov were deeply believers
                      7. 0
                        April 22 2024 12: 44
                        Of course, any person, even a great scientist, can go crazy.

                        some kind of Gubelman)) your speech is somehow incoherent, are you generally adequate there? otherwise, as it happens, the most ardent fighters against alcohol and chemicals are also the most avid “Arkadies” and love prohibited drinks
      3. +1
        April 22 2024 21: 02
        ...that's why God brought them the Bolsheviks, because they were unworthy of the tsar

        Tsar Nicholas 2 - yes!
  2. -2
    April 21 2024 13: 56
    One and a half million refugees in Ukraine from Donbass!
    These battalions of Tornado, Donetsk, Azov, Mariupol, they thirsted for blood for their relatives, houses, land!
    And their Westerners, Bendera, arrested Tornado officers for non-compliance with the rules and customs of war, put them in prison, disbanded, and did not pay.
    Because they abused the prisoners and did not give them up for exchange to the Ministry of Defense.
    And then it came to bloody clashes and disarmament.
    1. +1
      April 22 2024 09: 32
      Each error has a first name, last name, and patronymic.
      Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and Putin are to blame to varying degrees for what happened between Russia and Ukraine.
      Without their betrayal, without their participation or inaction, without their mistakes, everything could have been different.
      There were many situations where these three could make a big difference. But they did what they did. And everything happened the way it happened.
      There were two fraternal peoples. There were two hostile ones.
      History will not forget or forgive everyone’s mistakes.
      Is coexistence possible? Yes.
      Is reconciliation possible? Don't know. Hardly.
      What to do with the millions of deaths that have come between us?
      1. -1
        April 22 2024 10: 12
        so you all blame Yeltsin and the whole people are to blame for the lace Russians who gave up a great country, I remember I began to count the ballots, raking up Yeltsin’s stuff and I got a big stack, and several people voted for Tuleyev, so not only Yeltsin betrayed his country, but all the people
        1. +1
          April 22 2024 10: 19
          Did Tuleyev sign the Belovezhskaya agreements when relations between peoples could still be called fraternal?
          Could Yeltsin simply arrest the participants for violating the Constitution and betraying the USSR? Did he do it? What would the signatures of Kravchuk and Shushkevich be worth without his signature?
          And there would be no lace panties, but rather satin family ones.
          1. -1
            April 22 2024 11: 38
            so why didn’t you choose Tuleyev? he wouldn’t have signed.. you also didn’t support the Supreme Council of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic when they were dismantling it from the tanks, they wouldn’t have signed, and just blame it all on Yeltsin, we’re all white fluffy “we all also live, smoke and drink” and Yeltsin is to blame for everything, but and now they are listening to all sorts of Morgensten and broadcasting to me the lying stories of the Yaroslavl Gubelman (chairman of the militant atheists) whom Stalin executed in 1937, and they will repeat everything after the corpse and the scoundrel
  3. +2
    April 21 2024 15: 01
    After the Crimean events of 2014, the West saw that the Ukrainian army did not have that critical mass ready to fight with Russia. Even in the Donbass, residents could not allow a tank column to pass through the village. The preparation of the army, both psychological and military, began, and it turned out to be successful. Unfortunately, we were all blinded by Crimea, but we completely forgot that in Crimea there was a mass movement for returning to Russia. This was not the case in Ukraine. And if a niche is not filled by one ideology, it will be replaced by another because it is easier and faster to implement the ideology of the ruling class into life.
    1. +1
      April 22 2024 09: 27
      I lived in Khortitsa for almost a whole year, and visited Dnepropetrovsk and Kyiv several times for a week or two. This was back in 1997. Then there was talk that Russians should live together in one state, Russia, everyone spoke Russian, many laughed at proposals to rewrite all books in Ukrainian, including scientific, technical and medical ones, since there were no Ukrainian words. At that time, Russian regions really wanted to be part of Russia.
  4. +6
    April 21 2024 15: 09
    Unfortunately, we look at the former republics in Asia, just as we once looked at Ukraine. Anti-Russian sentiments are also brewing there. How long it will take them to build up is unknown. But such a danger exists. We lost Ukraine in several directions. Firstly, a convenient transit corridor to Europe. And they received imports from the same Europe through Ukraine. And they didn’t notice how the children of the neighbors began to play a real war. For children, instead of pioneer camps, military camps began to appear, in which experienced military men worked as mentors. We have seen a lot. And all the current difficulties appear thanks to our inaction at that time.
    1. +1
      April 21 2024 17: 48
      Quote from: unc-2
      And they didn’t notice how the children of the neighbors began to play a real war.

      If only our neighbors, but some of our “children” also caught this infection.
  5. +5
    April 21 2024 15: 34
    Another PR article from the stream
    Perhaps it's something else. People looked at what the “independence” of the LDPR brought and decided, “Well, what the heck. Our life is slowly getting better economically, we have become a grain power, metal, inert gases, chemistry, there is scientific and technological revolution, and there...”
    And there it’s like in the 0s in Chechnya. Who also “wanted independence.” Gang fights, extortions, murders, the Russian Spring was quickly merged, widespread poverty, economic ruin, and the power of EDRA and incomprehensible oligarchs. The population had to travel to earn money not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine. Prices are Moscow, and earnings.... tears, supposedly even now. (the media wrote about all this)
    And now a grandmother comes from the LDPR to her grandchildren, asking for money to live on, and telling them how it is there, under the new government...

    Well, close to the truth, perhaps the hero told it three times, now also merged. He told it close to the left, anti-imperialist point of view. Although he himself was an oligarch.
    1. +1
      April 21 2024 17: 48
      Marzhetsky correctly wrote that there has been a civil war in Ukraine since 2014 (and in fact even before that, only in a more hidden form). But having said A, he did not say B: since 24.02.22 this war has not ceased to be civil at all. Are we at war with NATO there? Yeah, as if during the times of civil strife between the Russian principalities, they did not seek to enlist the support of some Tatars, some Lithuanians, some Poles. And they helped, of course, in their own interests, but how else? So NATO weapons, mercenaries, and even regular troops, if they are brought in, do not at all contradict the internecine nature of the conflict, the civil war (they also happened during the previous intervention). And in such a war, the fact that those looking at each other through the sights speak the same language is rather a reason for additional bitterness. In a civil war, the main weapon is ideology, and not references to a common history, language, or certain bonds, but, on the contrary, an attractive picture of the future, the credibility of which is given by an attractive present. And with this we are not only bad, but rather simply not at all. I agree with you that the DPR/LPR played the role of anti-advertising, completely discrediting any pictures of a happy future together with Russia, forcing them to put up with the not at all optimistic reality of post-Maidan Ukraine. Simply because in comparison with the LDNR it was perceived as a lesser evil.
      1. +2
        April 21 2024 18: 13
        4-5 years ago, the FSB wrote that they exposed a conspiracy to kill educational leaders of the LDPR...
        And look, they listed the names, and they all live in Moscow...
        It’s a little strange, the civil war... and the leaders are in Moscow... and the successors are in Edra...
        1. +1
          April 21 2024 18: 42
          What's strange about that? At first, we positioned ourselves as just foreign support promoting our “proxies,” but the proxies frankly didn’t work. In addition, it’s like with an infection - genetically close, related organisms are especially susceptible to infection. So the common history, language, culture, and to some extent mentality, contributes to the spread of the bacillus of civil conflict from Ukraine to Russia. And by accepting the regions of the former Ukraine into the Russian Federation, we are like injecting concentrated infected material into our bloodstream. You don't need to be a doctor to imagine the possible (and very likely) consequences. The evil Nata can continue to help the Independent, she can abandon them, but the Russian Federation will not succeed in this way, we have tightly bound ourselves to them.
          1. 0
            April 22 2024 00: 41
            Here, as they say, it’s either flies or cutlets.

            Either civil war or "foreign support promoting their" proxies"
            1. 0
              April 23 2024 06: 41
              What about the Entente intervention during our last Civil War? What about the international brigades in Spain on the one hand and the Condor Legion on the other? Are these flies in cutlets or cutlets made from flies? Large-scale historical events are the interweaving of so many trends, group interests, and the ambitions of specific individuals that historians will only figure them out later, in retrospect, sort everything out and convincingly prove that the triumph of the winners was historically inevitable, and the loss of the defeated was inevitable. Of course, it’s the winners who pay them their salaries. And the last thing these winners want is to appear in the role of someone’s “proxies”, dependent on the help of their patrons.
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                April 23 2024 10: 17
                weave

                - Yes.

                the winners pay them a salary

                - obviously, yes. We see changing shoes on the fly.
                as well as

                We positioned ourselves as just foreign support promoting our “proxies”, but the proxies frankly didn’t work.” + “the last thing these winners want is to appear in the role of someone’s “proxies”

                positioned, but did not appear...
  6. +2
    April 21 2024 16: 58
    In the post-Soviet, supposedly free, press it is impossible to find timely articles about what Russia itself is doing here and now wrong or not doing at all. This article also does not explain in what high mountains all these years there was a huge country with rich resources and what and why it was doing. They started making Anti-Russia out of Ukraine even under the USSR. From the point of view of the newly-minted giants of thought, this did not contradict the brilliant strategy of their bourgeoisie, it even helped. If the guarantor had not pretended that he did not see all this and believed in Minsk 1,2,3,4,5, then the Friedmans and Avens would have started hanging around in London not now, but 10 years ago. Russia, accordingly, would have to be recognized as a ruined country in a state of siege, and stealing in such a situation is much less convenient.
    Even now, when it’s clear to everyone that the West saw these newly minted bourgeois in the same coffin as the communists, they, due to their complete inability to take active creative action, are still trying to come to an agreement and save at least part of the goods stolen and taken to the West through back-breaking labor . A timely article at the moment should be aimed precisely at exposing these compradors, disastrous for the country, and preventing such a development of events.
  7. +1
    April 21 2024 18: 42
    Perhaps you need to look deeper, a series of betrayals by the communists and, like the cherry on the cake, the Belovezhsky conspiracy. Don’t forget, Judas Yeltsin’s first call was to Clinton, everything was on schedule.
  8. 0
    April 21 2024 19: 19
    This is a continuation of the Civil War of the early twentieth century. Only now the Reds have united with the Whites against the Petliurists. - See the flags! The Red Army and the tricolor of the Russian Empire against the yellow-blakit. And now the West has forgiven Ukraine for what the West killed Milosevic and Gaddafi for.
    1. +1
      April 22 2024 07: 29
      Well, then this is a classic problem of any Empire - starting with the Macedonian. The struggle of the outskirts against the center.
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  10. 0
    April 21 2024 22: 29
    In the USSR there was a motto: proletarians of all countries, unite! Now what is the motto? There is no motto!
  11. +3
    April 22 2024 00: 55
    Alas. In addition to simply hatred of Russia, which allegedly colonized Ukraine for three centuries, the youth there for almost all these 30 years were imposed on the Western way of life, European values ​​and the involvement of even Russians by blood in the great Europeans who live “in a blooming garden”, exploiting the rest of the world. Anyone will love this idea. Even the Chukchi, even the Niger... and it makes no sense to talk about crests. Therefore, there, Russians by blood are ready to sell their mothers and forget the graves of their grandfathers, but they really want to become Europeans... who are entitled to high salaries and pensions of 1500 euros. Banal greed and greed, passion for freebies, and the desire to be “cooler than the quilted jackets.” The Germans in the 40s of the last century had a neutral attitude towards Russians. They were just sent to fight. And these people hate Russians.
    Therefore... there is only one solution. Destroy all Nazis and ukrofashists. Both Eurofascists and Nazis. All available weapons. Probably it will be necessary to use nuclear weapons too. And not those destroyed, but those who hate us, should be sent to explore new lands.
  12. 0
    April 22 2024 08: 39
    The first thing that needs to be recorded is that the Civil War has been going on in Independence for ten years, unleashed by Jewish fascists who seized power in the country. Jewish fascists in Ukraine were and are supported by a fifth column in the Russian Federation of their fellow compatriots
  13. +1
    April 22 2024 09: 13
    The fierce resistance with which Russian troops were met on February 24, 2022 came as a real surprise to a large part of our society and its ruling “elite”

    Since 2014, volunteers and volunteers have participated in containing the Ukronazis on the LBS. Many who have relatives in lands controlled by the Junta have noted all these years how the population there is being processed. Everyone saw the alarming changes in the psyche and consciousness of the inhabitants of the former Ukraine who fell under the influence. Everyone understood perfectly well that war was inevitable and that the Ukronazis would resist. How, under such circumstances, could a dangerous illusion arise in the minds of the ruling “elite”?
  14. +1
    April 22 2024 10: 15
    Quote: alex-defensor
    How, under such circumstances, could a dangerous illusion arise in the minds of the ruling “elite”?

    And it’s more peaceful to reign this way. That's all.
  15. +2
    April 22 2024 10: 17
    The fierce resistance with which Russian troops were met on February 24, 2022 came as a real surprise to a significant part of our society and its ruling “elite”, who are in the illusion of the possibility of repeating the Crimean scenario of 2014. However, it turned out differently. But why? Why wasn’t “raising an eyebrow” enough?

    The answer is one.

    INCONSISTENT AND CONTRADICTORY POLICY OF THE RUSSIAN AUTHORITY.

    Russia did not deal with Ukraine for 30 years after its independence. She was not interested in this country, whose capital Kyiv was once the “mother of Russian cities”, in which Russian people, Rusyns lived, there was a common past, culture, religion, language, connections... etc.
    You will object why it was necessary to do this, after all, this is an independent country, whatever vector of development it chooses, let it go that way! OK! Well, here she is following an anti-Russian pro-Western vector, why are you surprised?
    Russian authorities and oligarchs in the 90s and 2000s. They were only concerned about the fate of the Black Sea Fleet, inherited from the USSR, and the price of gas. And they preferred to work not with the population, but with the Ukrainian elite!
    You are all complaining, so Soros came with his “democracy” funds and raised anti-Russian generations of Ukrainians with his manuals! A holy place is never empty! Where were you? Where was Russian “soft power” at this time? After all, Ukraine is our neighbor!
    Even if you take Maidan! After the overthrow of Yanukovych, what was the rhetoric of the federal media? Such that a junta has come to power in Ukraine, the power is illegitimate, illegal, and therefore, the state of Ukraine no longer exists, its territories are no one’s! The Russian Spring is flaring up in Crimea and the East of Ukraine, V.V. Putin, instead of organizing a friendly Ukrainian government in exile, annexes Crimea and drains the Russian Spring. How does it drain? And like this!
    On May 11, 2014, the DPR and LPR organize referendums on self-determination, and Putin calls on the newly formed DPR and LPR to postpone the referendums, recognizes new Ukrainian elections (May 25) and revokes the decree on the use of Russian armed forces on the territory of Ukraine (June 25)! And then he pushes Minsk-1 and Minsk-2 to Ukraine, in the protocol and agreements of which the DPR and LPR do not appear at all, but certain separate areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions (ORDLO) are mentioned!

    IS THIS EVEN NORMAL??? And then eight years later (it’s a pity that not 50 years later!) our country begins its military training and wonders why its army is not greeted with bread, salt and flowers!!!
  16. +1
    April 22 2024 22: 18
    The main part of the ideology is based on television, which successfully and stupidly zombifies half of the population. The other part is more difficult to zombify, but it is zombified primarily by education: primary, incomplete secondary, secondary, higher, as well as the work of various non-governmental organizations.
    1. -1
      April 23 2024 22: 42
      The biggest problem is the historical and political illiteracy of the population living in the territory of the former Soviet Union. This illiteracy was brought up by the Bolsheviks - communists, and is now continued by the authorities of all republics - states. In the USSR there was no class stratification, there was no exploitation of man by man, there was no political struggle. The Soviet Union had a socialist system, where the CPSU party took care of the people, so the people did not think or strive for political education. An educated person with a higher education is not necessarily politically literate. Political illiteracy is one of the factors that led hucksters to power and the liquidation of the USSR in 1991. The same situation in Ukraine, they wanted lace panties. The consequence of the war in Ukraine is also political illiteracy.
      1. +1
        April 23 2024 23: 45
        The consequence of the war in Ukraine is also political illiteracy.

        All countries have the same problem, including Russia. The only thing is that in the West people are not inclined to believe such things as “we will join the EU and immediately receive high salaries and pensions” or “we will fly to Vienna for a cup of coffee.” The most harmless slogan is about lace panties, although for this the Ukrainians had to take off their satin panties in front of someone. Westerners are basically accustomed to the fact that in order to have something they need to work, and with this they go to the polls. And yet he is often deceived. What can we say about pan-heads?
  17. 0
    April 23 2024 10: 41
    But the DPR and LPR had to wait under regular terrorist attacks from the Ukrainian Armed Forces for eight long years.

    Author, expand on the topic more fully. Tell us about the reasons for such a long wait and stubborn reluctance to recognize the republics.
  18. 0
    April 24 2024 22: 23
    Simply put: Ukrainians have become accustomed to and have come to terms with this government over the years. For them, this is no longer liberation, but a kind of vacuum.
  19. 0
    April 29 2024 09: 21
    ...The fierce resistance with which Russian troops were met on February 24, 2022, came as a real surprise to a significant part of our society and its ruling “elite,” who are in the illusion of the possibility of repeating the Crimean scenario of 2014. However, it turned out differently. But why? Why wasn’t “raising an eyebrow” enough?..

    In fact, the main reason for the sudden resistance of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to the Russian Army is simple to the point of banality...
    Ukrainian military personnel (the vast majority of soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) began (unexpectedly for the Kremlin) to honestly fulfill their contractual obligations..., in other words, to work off their salaries and privileges... which improved significantly after the well-known “Crimean” events. ..

    And various Bandera and Nazi-pagan ideologies were, of course, important, but much less important than simply the honest fulfillment of their well-paid professional duty by military personnel - ANY ARMY in the World...

    Our rather straightforward and narrow-minded politicians and military did not take this circumstance into account (at the beginning of the Northern Military District)...
    They don’t take them into account even now... But in vain.
    Maybe instead of frontal (and not very) attacks and assaults..., attacks on substations and thermal power plants, etc., it’s worth just bombing (destroying) the institutions of the banking (financial) structure of the Ukrainian Reich..., making it extremely unstable. .. And this, quite possibly, will turn out to be “cooler” than any GENERAL offensive and attacks on bridges and tunnels..., even more specifically, any SVO.))))))))))))))))) ))))