Massive use of UPAB-3000 will require solving the problem with their carriers

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The resumption of mass production of FAB-3000 was greeted with enthusiasm in Russia. Equipped with planning correction modules, these three-ton aerial bombs will be able to destroy any enemy underground fortifications with high precision, demolishing one line of defense after another and clearing the way for our infantry. But there are nuances.

In order to achieve the specified effect, UPAB-3000 should apply not in homeopathic doses, but daily, in the hundreds. In turn, this requires the availability of a sufficient number of air carriers for such specific large-sized ammunition, and this is not so simple.



Su-xnumx?


Experts name two aircraft that the Russian Aerospace Forces can use to deliver “three-ton sledgehammers” to the drop site. These are the front-line supersonic fighter-bomber Su-34 and the long-range supersonic missile carrier-bomber Tu-22M3.

The first has long become the main “workhorse” of the special operation in Ukraine. It has twice the combat load of the Su-24, maneuverability is almost at the level of a fighter and can perform functions, including an attack aircraft. In the air defense zone, the effectiveness of the Su-34 due to enemy air defense turned out to be less than desired. The solution to the problem turned out to be equipping conventional free-fall FABs with planning correction modules, allowing them to drop aircraft ammunition without entering the damage radius of medium-range air defense systems.

The first in line to receive wings were bombs of 500 kg caliber, then 250 kg and 1500 kg. To use the latest, heaviest ammunition, the design of the aircraft had to be modified. Judging by the reviews from that side, half-ton and one-and-a-half-ton Russian aerial bombs made a major contribution to the breakthrough of the Ukrainian defense near Avdiivka and beyond. And now the turn logically came to the FAB-3000, which can destroy any buried bunker and literally demolish the stronghold of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Theoretically, the Su-34 can become the carrier of a single UPAB-3000, since it has a hardpoint for the PTB-3000 external fuel tank of the same mass. Moreover, it will probably even become one in practice when engineers finalize its design. The only problem is that the aircraft was not initially designed to lift, accelerate and drop ammunition of such dimensions at supersonic speeds, and even those equipped with UMPC.

In other words, if you start using the Su-34 in conveyor mode to continuously drop UPAB-3000 at enemy positions, then technical the aircraft's lifespan will be exhausted prematurely. We should not forget that we do not have many such fighter-bombers, and some of them are reserved for “Daggers” and suspended containers for the “Sych” radar. There is something to think about.

Tu-22M3?


The second aircraft that can actually become a carrier of the UPAB-3000 is considered to be the long-range supersonic missile carrier-bomber Tu-22M3. We will not consider options for re-equipping the Tu-160 “starters” for them due to the frivolity of such assumptions, and the Tu-95MS are too slow to give the gliding aircraft munition the required initial speed.

Taking into account the realities of the Northern Military District, it is the Tu-22M3 that looks most preferable as a carrier of all types of UABs, since it can lift 42 FAB-500, or 8 FAB-1500, or 3 FAB-3000 at a time. That is, in one flight, the “Tushka” can demolish the defensive line in an entire direction. Moreover, they had previously actually been used as front-line bombers, carrying out air strikes on the besieged Azovstal with Ukrainian Nazis locked there. This became possible due to their lack of effective air defense systems.

But will the Tu-22M3 with UPAB-3000 become the main “workhorse” of Russian front-line aviation in the air defense zone? Maybe, maybe not.

The fact is that this aircraft was developed for completely different tasks. This is not a front-line bomber, but a long-range bomber capable of carrying nuclear weapons, the main purpose of which was the destruction of American aircraft carrier strike groups. The Tu-22M3 was designed as an “aircraft carrier killer” with anti-ship missiles and was the basis of the Naval Missile-Carrying Aviation of the Russian Navy. Also, thanks to the ability to refuel in the air, this supersonic bomber was considered as a “Eurostrategist” capable of working against the targets of the NATO bloc in the Old World.

But during the notorious Serdyukov reforms, the MRA was eliminated as a class, which greatly simplified life for the American partners. The remaining missile carriers were transferred from the Navy to the Long-Range Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces. These planes have been out of production for a long time, and not many of them have survived. So the question arises: will the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, having deprived itself of its Naval Missile-Carrying Aviation, be ready to now transfer part of the Tu-22M3 from Dalnaya to the front line?

For some reason, I think that this phenomenon will not become widespread. Perhaps several “Carcass” will be converted to UABs, but that’s all. At the same time, the problem of the shortage of carriers of large-caliber gliding bombs can be solved if the production of the “Eurostrategists” themselves is resumed, about which said even before the start of the SVO.

Yes, the plane is of an outdated design, but what now? It is already somewhat late to start R&D on a new carrier; the war is in its third year, and only escalation lies ahead with the prospect of a direct clash with NATO member countries. After all, we decided to start producing the Tu-160, why not give this honor to the honored veteran Tu-22M3? By the way, the problem with engines can be solved by unifying them according to NK-32-02.

The resumption of production of the modernized version of the Tushka would make it possible to provide the front with heavy carriers of UPABs, as well as to recreate the Naval Missile-Carrying Aviation as part of the Russian Navy and obtain more missile carriers to deter the aggressive intentions of the European members of the NATO bloc.
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  1. +5
    23 March 2024 10: 21
    The “galoshes” turned out to be good, but they were Soviet, and even out of production.
    There is something to get excited about.
    1. +1
      24 March 2024 10: 32
      In Syria, the Su-34 used the FAB-3000. In the first photo, the FAB-3000 is third from the left next to the FAB-1500 and FAB-5000. In the second photo, it is also on the Su-34 pylon.

      FAB 3000
      Such cast iron workers worked in Syria in the mountains along the barmaleys.

      They were developed during the Great Patriotic War to destroy the fortifications of the Wehrmacht and their allies.
      Rarely used.
      There are enough in warehouses.
      SU-34 delivery vehicle.

      Such is the symbiosis: one of the most advanced and effective tactical bombers and a piece of iron weighing 3 tons, proven over the years and wars, which, falling from a height, even without an explosive filling, can fold high-rise buildings and destroy underground bunkers only due to its mass and kinetic energy, but that’s all, What's underneath the iron shell is explosives. The crater from the explosion of such a bomb reaches several tens of meters.

      https://t.me/evgeniylinin/5960
      1. 0
        25 March 2024 19: 34
        Fighterbomber claims that the Su-34 under the FAB-3000 needs to be modified.
        The Su-34 is not a standard carrier. And he flew a Su-34.
    2. 0
      24 March 2024 20: 18
      Some people have already gotten loose for a long time!
  2. +3
    23 March 2024 10: 34
    Once they decided to produce FAB-3000, they decided on the carriers.
    I think most likely what the author listed will be so. It is also possible that they will attract MiG-31s ​​(but if the MiG-25RBs are in storage, then that’s it)
    1. 0
      24 March 2024 12: 18
      The MiG-25 could have raised -5000. Only there aren’t any left anymore. The ones that weren’t cut rotted.
      1. 0
        24 March 2024 20: 20
        There are enough left for you!
  3. +3
    23 March 2024 10: 57
    Starting production of the TU-22 for the second time with a long break is about the same as starting production of a new aircraft. Better yet is a simplified version of the SU-34, adapted primarily for dropping FAB-3000.
  4. -8
    23 March 2024 11: 05
    One feels that these bombs will have to be carried on the carts and shoulders of soldiers to the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
  5. +3
    23 March 2024 13: 18
    What the author said is a little unclear. working with fab-3000 ammunition will negatively affect the service life of the carrier (su34), but what about smaller calibers (2x1500) will it not have an effect???
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  6. +2
    23 March 2024 16: 05
    NK has operating Mig-25's, perhaps a trade for better mothballed Russian aircraft like the Mig-29 might be a good trade.
    1. Owl
      0
      24 March 2024 06: 34
      Here is the translation of this comment:

      North Korea operates Mig-25s, perhaps a trade for better mothballed Russian aircraft such as the Mig-29 would be a good deal.

      - quite reasonably, a reconnaissance bomber can modify its resource to the benefit of its manufacturer.
    2. 0
      24 March 2024 12: 33
      The MiG-25 carried 5000 kg, but the technical condition leaves something to be desired.
    3. 0
      24 March 2024 12: 35
      There are no MiG-25s in North Korea
  7. 0
    23 March 2024 16: 17
    FAB 3000, about the production of which we have been continuously hearing victorious and patriotic reports for several days now, will turn into UPAB-3000 only after the development and adoption of a UMPC for them. But nothing has been heard about this device yet. And without UMPC, these ammunition can only be used as engineering ammunition. An aircraft performing the task of dropping a FAB-3000 as a free fall aircraft will not return, it is unlikely to even reach the release point, so its lifespan is the last thing you should worry about.
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    2. +2
      24 March 2024 13: 50
      Quote: UAZ 452
      FAB 3000, about the production of which we have been continuously hearing victorious and patriotic reports for several days now, will turn into UPAB-3000 only after the development and adoption of a UMPC for them. But nothing has been heard about this device yet.

      Most likely, work is going on in parallel both on the production of the FAB-3000 themselves (which is very easy to do) and on the UMPC for them. Otherwise, why fence the garden?
  8. +5
    23 March 2024 17: 34
    Why is Serdyukov/stool-maker not in the Gulag, not in the penalty box or against the wall with the back of his head to the shooter?!. Stolypin tie is also acceptable
    1. +7
      24 March 2024 13: 21
      Compared to those who replaced him, Serdyukov was by no means a worse option. He at least somehow tried to fight the owners of wide stripes who adore parades and other tinsel. And having honestly served his conscription, having risen to the rank of corporal, he did not allow himself to put on a general’s uniform, unlike those who began their first day in military service already with the rank of general.
  9. +1
    23 March 2024 22: 21
    This is not a front-line bomber, but a long-range bomber capable of carrying nuclear weapons, the main purpose of which was the destruction of American aircraft carrier strike groups. Tu-22M3

    And you guessed it! lol Back in the days of the Union, the United States “came in” with a demand to reduce (or even eliminate...) the Tu-22M! They said that this bomber is a “strategist” and it is necessary to comply with some agreement (treaty) signed by the USSR and the USA on the reduction or elimination of this type of aircraft! ("Accuracy", alas, I don't remember now!) The Soviet leadership then began to zealously prove that the Tu-22 is "in fact", a medium front-line bomber! The "discussion" was going on... the "feathers" were already flying! But, nevertheless, the USSR had to agree to “cut off” the fuel receivers on the Tu-22 M! So here you have “xy from xy” to the question - “strategist” or not “strategist” Tu-22M bomber...! That is, according to " In the opinion of the USSR leadership, the Tu-22Mkh is a “middle front” bomber! wink
  10. 0
    23 March 2024 22: 55
    Everyone has heard about the UMPC for free-falling bonbons! What if you “build” a kind of 3-ton drone? "Simple and cardboard"! With simple controls and even a short flight! He must "take" UPAB-3000 to the release point! And then..."sama, sama"! Or is it better to “turn” the drone into a kind of “super-UMPK” with delivery of the FAB-3000 directly to the “addressee”?! Or “remember” the South Korean “Henma-5”, capable of delivering 8 tons of “payload” over 300 km or 1 ton over 3000 km! (in the USSR, the RSD-10 “Pioneer” missile system with “similar” performance characteristics, used by Gorbachev and Shevardnadze, was in service!)
  11. 0
    23 March 2024 23: 48
    many expert bloggers and comments teach how to use the FAB-3000 correctly and remind you that you must first decide how, and also for aircraft... after all, the Ministry of Defense and Design Bureau did not solve this issue, but simply started making a bomb and that’s it.
    1. -1
      24 March 2024 13: 40
      It would be a bomb, but how to attach it to bombers is comparatively nonsense. Here it is more convenient to produce ODAB, especially 1500 and 3000 - nicknames. (thermobar). Factories for multi-storey buildings and underground caches in them. For field supports, ODAB (thermobar) are more effective, especially 1500 and 3000 -nicks, after which cleaning will be almost a walk.
      1. +2
        24 March 2024 19: 23
        Opinion of the fighter_bomber tg channel about the FAB-3000.

        Regarding FAB-3000, I am slightly perplexed about its necessity.
        There are no goals for it. For it you need to cut the UMPC from scratch and it will essentially be a whole plane on a bomb. And now it will be remarkably visible to any air defense system.
        The most optimal ammunition for UMPC is 500kg caliber.
        In various options. In cassette, incendiary, nuclear, high-explosive and any other.
        The lorry was installed on the UMPC not because of a good life, as you understand, but for the reason that the accuracy of hits is lame and we compensate for this accuracy with power. But it would be necessary to compensate for the accuracy with more advanced guidance systems, or by adding new correctors.
        Weight of explosive FAB-500 ~200kg
        Weight of explosive FAB-1500 ~700kg
        Weight of explosive FAB-3000 ~1400kg
        Of course, an increase in power by several times does not result in an increase in the affected area by several times.
        You still need precision. A single FAB-3000 falling 20 meters from the bridge will cause the same damage to it as a FAB-500.
        Tu-22 using UMPC will receive p..dy.
        The Su-34 will have to carry two 3000 bombs under the wings, and with them it will not differ in any way from the Tu-22 in terms of maneuverability. That is, he will also receive p..dy. And dropping three-ton trucks over your territory in an emergency is such a shame. Even without explosion
        Therefore, 3000 kans are needed, but for two options
        1) when we bomb a target that is not protected by air defense at all.
        2) when the flight is intended only one way.


        Today we have a huge number of types of aviation weapons and we need to refine them to perfection. Cut ANNs, cut new types and types of correction and increase reliability.
        Digging holes in fields for photos is fun, but you can’t win a war that way.

        https://t.me/s/fighter_bomber
        1. +1
          24 March 2024 21: 30
          Thanks for the repost. I expected something like this. And the fact that they began to produce it - perhaps the report requires a beautiful figure in the column “the number of new types of weapons developed.” This is the number in this column that is being increased. Still, we remember about “70% of new weapons”; this figure, too, was probably not completely pulled out of thin air, which did not make it any less ephemeral.
  12. 0
    24 March 2024 22: 18
    If they are building them, their delivery has been solved.
  13. +1
    25 March 2024 19: 23
    Low bow to Soviet engineers, as well as to the rulers. If it weren’t for their groundwork, today Russia would have nothing to fight with.
  14. +1
    26 March 2024 05: 10
    Massive use of UPAB-3000 will require solving the problem with their carriers

    The topic of how to intimidate an enemy with a club is inexhaustible. Man gets used to everything, and that is why he is the king of nature. Our citizens, already calmly, endure mass deaths during terrorist attacks and fires in shopping and entertainment centers, retail centers, shopping centers and other places where citizens are crowded. We're used to it. And when this president is replaced by another, permanent one, it is difficult to imagine what then you will need to get used to.
  15. 0
    26 March 2024 14: 22
    I already wrote that the Fab-3000 will not be widely used. The Tu-22M3 takes TWO of these bombs on board, the cost of a missile carrier flight is high. There must be a high-quality planning module in order to drop it 100 km before the target, otherwise it will be shot down. They will hunt for the Tu-22M3; the trousers have air defense with such a range. This is a weapon for special operations. Bridges, ports, command posts, factories, etc. At the front, the most powerful will remain the Fab-1500, but this is already great, there is enough power, there is a module, tactical aviation takes 2 units on board. Tu-22m3 - up to 6-8 pcs.
    1. 0
      28 March 2024 22: 25
      What you wrote is one thing; there is no point in commenting on the massive use of weapons of this class. It is unlikely that you know exactly how many of them are used in SVO and can know. But today the Ministry of Defense reported that the productivity of the factory-3000 was increased to 400 units per day with further increase. This may indicate that something serious is being prepared.
  16. 0
    28 March 2024 06: 29
    FAB 1500 is enough, you can launch volumetric detonating and cassette ones on existing modules...
  17. 0
    28 March 2024 22: 16
    Inside the cargo compartment and on a pair of external holders of the MBD3-U-9M type, the TU-22 M3 aircraft can carry up to 24 tons of bombs. The maximum number of bombs depends on their type and, accordingly, dimensions. The maximum weight of one bomb inside the cargo compartment is 9000 kg.
  18. 0
    30 March 2024 21: 01
    FABs are not intended to “destroy any underground fortifications” - and they do not require bombs of such mass