Russian Ruslans will get a second life, they will fly on new engines

March 5 2024 49

The head of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, said during a conference call that the start of mass production of domestic D-2027T engines for heavy An-18 Ruslan transport aircraft is scheduled for the fourth quarter of 124 in Russia. Russian journalist Alexander Kots drew attention to this on March 5 in his Telegram channel.

The journalist noted that the problem of manufacturing such engines for this excellent piece of aircraft has been brewing for a long time (each aircraft is equipped with 4 D-18T sustainer turbofan engines and 2 TA-12 auxiliary power units). In Soviet times, the D-18T were developed at the Zaporozhye Engineering Design Bureau "Progress" and were produced at the Zaporozhye Engine Plant (now Motor Sich JSC) in the Ukrainian SSR.

According to him, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, production practically stopped; Technology, specialists grew old and retired. Thousands of well-functioning production chains based on the cooperation of various enterprises were also disrupted. Now we have to create a lot. This is difficult, but the Russian Federation has no other choice, since it needs heavy transport aircraft.

Yes, there was some reserve left, thanks to which several aircraft were completed in Russia at the Ulyanovsk Aviastar-SP enterprise. However, since 2004, new Ruslans have not been built, only the existing ones have been modernized. They improved the avionics, fuselage, landing gear, and navigation equipment. But the engines remained, in fact, still Soviet-built.

– writes Kots.

He emphasized that the engine is the heart of the aircraft, the most difficult structural element to develop and manufacture. Without it, the plane will not take off, but with new engines, Russian Ruslans will continue to fly for many years. RF "Ruslans" are extremely necessary.

This is the only vehicle capable of carrying as much as 120 tons of cargo. There are not so many of them left in Russia: 11 as part of the Aerospace Forces, 11 at the Volga-Dnepr company and 8 at JSC 224th Flight Detachment (a subsidiary of the Ministry of Defense). A certain number of aircraft remain in storage, including due to problems with the engines

Kotz summed it up.

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strange guest

-5

5 March 2024 21: 25

Why bother with such nonsense - restoring the production of 40-year-old engines? Isn't it easier to install a Russian PD-35??
1. Missile
  
  +6
  
  5 March 2024 21: 55
  
  Which one is on paper? Alas and ah
  1. strange guest
    
    +3
    
    5 March 2024 22: 25
    
    Even by the age of 28? Well, this is complete bullshit. There are no words. They've been nagging him since 2016. Is 12 years not enough?
    1. UAZ 452
      
      +2
      
      6 March 2024 09: 11
      
      I recently read that the tank engine for the Armata has been finished off since 1977 (it was then that a prototype appeared, of course, for another project), and so far not very successfully. And you're talking about 12 years...
      1. Flight
        
        +2
        
        6 March 2024 12: 25
        
        Well, while the developers with files and jigsaws are finishing the innovative product by the 30th year, the lack of engines will be purchased from partners in China. There's nothing you can do about it - business is business.
        
        Pembo
        
        +1
        
        7 March 2024 16: 48
        
        China's engines are worse than ours.
      2. strange guest
        
        +2
        
        6 March 2024 17: 11
        
        But this is not normal.
2. svoroponov
  
  +1
  
  7 March 2024 11: 44
  
  That's how they'll put it. They will not repeat the old engine.
  For the PD-35, tests of the gas generator part have already been completed, that is, the engine can be assembled and prepared for testing. The only question is the readiness of the fuel regulation automation and monitoring and control electronics, but it is possible that this already exists and is also being tested and fine-tuned.
mark1

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5 March 2024 21: 28

In fact, in 2028, i.e. neither PD-26 nor any other similar PD (24,30,35) are expected in the foreseeable future, they will simply take MotorSichev’s developments and increase the thrust to 27,5 tons (at least they will get the money for it)
1. Just a cat
  
  -1
  
  6 March 2024 07: 13
  
  Are there motorsich developments? They produced what was originally developed in Ulyanovsk. Yuzhmash assembled rockets from Russian spare parts and Antonov was not a Khokhlom Kraz from Yaroslavl, Zaporozhets - miscarriage of AZLK. Maybe the designer of the T-34 Koshkin is a big baboon? They moved the enterprises to ruins so that the local savages would at least formally look like people.
  1. mark1
    
    +1
    
    6 March 2024 07: 51
    
    Quote: Just Cat
    Are there motorsich developments?
    
    There are, simply Kotya, there is the same AI-38 (34 tons) which is now being finalized in China by the former Motor Sichevtsy, this is a development of the D-18. We produce the AI 222-25, we could have produced the D-436 a long time ago (documentation has been received in full , even joint production began at one time) instead of PD-8.
    1. Just a cat
      
      -5
      
      6 March 2024 08: 27
      
      The former are those who have been retired for a long time? Where are the young people from? They are now only trained in the field of intimate services Vladimir Alekseevich Lotarev (1914-1994) - Soviet aircraft engine designer, academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Ukrainian SSR. Born on November 2 (November 15), 1914 in the city of Aleksandsk-Grushevsky (now Shakhty, Rostov region). Father - Alexey Evgrafovich worked as a miner, mother - Valentina Prokofievna devoted her entire life to family and household. no matter how you look at it, crests still have nothing to do with it
      1. UAZ 452
        
        0
        
        6 March 2024 09: 14
        
        The former are those who have been retired for a long time? Where are the young people from?
        
        Are you talking about Ukraine or Russia now? However, I agree with you in both options.
      2. mark1
        
        +2
        
        6 March 2024 10: 55
        
        Quote: Just Cat
        The former are those who have been retired for a long time? Where are the young people from?
        
        Well, you tell me - yes, they are all pockmarked, stooped and bald, or is it our case - they are all eagles, they look like falcons and their chests are like wheels!
        I don’t know which ones work there in China - old, bald and stooped ones or young ones in trousers and forelocks, there’s a whole town built for them
JD1979

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5 March 2024 21: 37

It seems to me that they should have sent troops not to Gostomel, but to Zaporozhye on Progress and Motor Sich, and it would have been even better to have done this in 2014, look, they would have already built a couple of dozen An-70s, and other aircraft with Ukrainian engines.
1. Just a cat
  
  -10
  
  6 March 2024 07: 24
  
  Throw a landing party into Zaporozhye so that the crests will then draw more meat to the Crimea and Donbass? And then introduce full mobilization in Russia? great strategist... Even the Chinese are no longer interested in this motor vehicle. forgotten developments from Ulyanovsk... While crests rushed to defend their Kyiv, Russia occupied vast territories in the Donbass.
  1. JD1979
    
    +3
    
    6 March 2024 14: 29
    
    Quote: Just Cat
    Throw a landing party into Zaporozhye so that the crests will then draw more meat to the Crimea and Donbass?
    
    Crimea - with a capital K. Geographically - TWO.
    
    Quote: Just Cat
    Even the Chinese are no longer interested in this motor vehicle. forgotten developments from Ulyanovsk...
    
    So uninteresting that the Americans went out of their way to prevent it from being sold to the Chinese.))) And in Russia they still cannot start producing civil aviation and military aviation aircraft, because almost all of them flew on Ukrainian engines)
    
    Quote: Just Cat
    While crests rushed to defend their Kyiv, Russia occupied vast territories in the Donbass.
    
    So extensive that Donetsk is still being shelled. And the regions were not completely liberated. Open the map strategist...
    1. svoroponov
      
      0
      
      7 March 2024 11: 58
      
      There are no Ukrainian engines, literally at all. The engines were produced in the USSR with broad production cooperation throughout the country. After the collapse of the USSR, did Ukraine independently create at least one engine? No, it vegetated on still Soviet foundations. But it couldn’t because the development of these engines was not carried out in the Ukrainian design bureau.
      And the Antonov Design Bureau generally needs to be returned to its homeland, to Russia from a foreign land.
2. Flight
  
  0
  
  6 March 2024 16: 25
  
  It seems to me that they should have sent troops not to Gostomel, but to Zaporozhye on Progress and Motor Sich, and it would have been even better to have done this in 2014, look, they would have already built a couple of dozen An-70s, and other aircraft with Ukrainian engines.
  
  To carry out a combat mission, it would be enough to have a special detachment for the presidential palace, where they would “stoically” pray the potion, as in Afghanistan, and then send in troops. Back then, it was a classic invasion. But... In general, there are only one people around...
kapitan92

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6 March 2024 00: 27

The head of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, said during a conference call that the start of mass production of domestic D-2027T engines for heavy An-18 Ruslan transport aircraft is scheduled for the sixth quarter of 124 in Russia.

This nonsense is no longer even surprising!
2 years to the right, MC21 and other miracles of the Russian aviation industry are gone again. You have to be an Ediet to believe in the production of the D18T in 27.
1. svoroponov
  
  +2
  
  7 March 2024 12: 11
  
  Has Tu-160 production been revived? Yes. Did they take IL-76 from Tashkent and set up production here? Yes. Engines for Ka and Mi helicopters began to be produced in Russia? Yes. Yes, they began to produce a lot of things that previously did not exist in Russia, but were available to the Papuans of the union republics, and for whom it no longer needed it or, under the influence of “friends” from the West, was closed and destroyed. We’ve just lost a lot and we need enough time to restore production and so on, especially on a modern basis.
AC130 Gunship

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6 March 2024 02: 29

Kots no longer “understands” anything. And in submarines, and in missiles, and in MLRS, and even in electronic warfare systems. What the hell is remotorization if such an engine exists only on paper? By the time it is done (which there is reason to strongly doubt, looking at the progress with Pd 14), all the aircraft will have long served their intended time
1. Just a cat
  
  -8
  
  6 March 2024 07: 33
  
  Aircraft production can be restored. The production of strategic bombers was restored in Kazan.
2. Nikolay Volkov
  
  +2
  
  6 March 2024 07: 48
  
  Well, Kots was recently detained with a suspicious substance...
  
  Apparently, after this substance, all his jerks and breakthroughs “play with new colors”...
  
  Such sycophants are useful for “strategic advantage”...they root pink ponism and belief in their own infallibility
3. Alf
  
  +3
  
  6 March 2024 11: 21
  
  Here ! And since there is no airplane, then this engine is not needed, but a new one is needed, which has yet to be designed, which means everything is new. Budget masters are rubbing their hands...
prior

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6 March 2024 08: 49

Restore the Soviet Union and you will have "Ruslan".
Otherwise, you will end up with another "Armata".
1. UAZ 452
  
  0
  
  6 March 2024 09: 19
  
  The second time the story returns only in the form of a farce. So there is no need to try to enter the same river twice - even sincere admirers of Soviet times will be disappointed.
2. svoroponov
  
  0
  
  7 March 2024 12: 20
  
  Do you think Americans are backward? They have just launched something in the form of a copy of the Armata for testing and consider this their achievement in the development of tank technology.
  The Armata is already in service with us, but they don’t make much of it because it’s still a bit expensive. Or maybe there is no need to do much, taking into account the development of UAVs. Money from the budget for military expenses must be used carefully.
twice-born

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6 March 2024 08: 59

Come to your senses! Import substitution, sanctions, 10 years of war have been going on for 2 years, and they are only going to make engines by 27 (in reality it will be later)! Yes, they were needed yesterday!
Potapov

+5

6 March 2024 11: 20

It’s strange...where they promise something - there’s also the Minister of Defense, where ships are sunk, reconnaissance planes are shot down - there’s no one from the military authorities...
rotkiv04

0

6 March 2024 12: 06

Quote: Just Cat
Are there motorsich developments? They produced what was originally developed in Ulyanovsk. Yuzhmash assembled rockets from Russian spare parts and Antonov was not a Khokhlom Kraz from Yaroslavl, Zaporozhets - miscarriage of AZLK. Maybe the designer of the T-34 Koshkin is a big baboon? They moved the enterprises to ruins so that the local savages would at least formally look like people.

You obviously didn’t study well even at school, don’t write nonsense and don’t embarrass yourself
1. isofat
  
  0
  
  6 March 2024 13: 40
  
  Victor, and it’s useless to spend money on your studies.
2. Yuri Sotnikov
  
  -1
  
  6 March 2024 19: 04
  
  Isofatushka, he writes everything correctly. And what school did you go to?
  1. isofat
    
    +1
    
    7 March 2024 00: 26
    
    I myself studied for a long time.
3. Eduard Viktorovich
  
  +1
  
  7 March 2024 13: 32
  
  Justify your opinion, in general it is written quite accurately...
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wladimirjankov

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6 March 2024 13: 49

Shoigu said during a conference call that the start of serial production of domestic D-2027T engines for heavy An-18 Ruslan transport aircraft is scheduled for the sixth quarter of 124 in Russia.

More projects and manilovism. Who will make these engines? Isn't it the notorious UZGA? It’s somehow easy for our big officials to promise, “outline” everything, set deadlines and plan. They then said that in 2016-18 they would launch the PD-14 engine into production and it would be installed on the new MS-21, also delivered to the series, then they loudly announced that the PD-14 engine would soon be developed on the basis of the PD-8 for the superjet and PD-35 for the long-range aircraft being designed jointly with the Chinese. It’s now 2024, and there have been no mass-produced MS-21s with PD-14s and superjets with PD-8s. Moreover, recently the head of Rostec Chemezov, once again, again postponed the production dates of these aircraft and engines to 2025-26. And the bravura talk about the PD-35 engine somehow fell silent. Manturov has already allegorically stated that there is no particular need for the PD-35 and perhaps there will be a PD-26 or PD-28 instead. And most importantly, no one has yet answered for these empty promises, failures with deadlines and unfulfilled programs for the production of aircraft vital for the country. And if there is no responsibility for one’s words, then they will continue to promise, use budget money, and then at the next failure they will find reasons for this.
1. svoroponov
  
  -1
  
  7 March 2024 12: 25
  
  One PD-14 is already on the plane during testing. It takes more than one day to test the engine in operation under different modes in different climatic conditions. It’s just that the engine has not yet been adopted and is not being distributed in print.
  1. Pembo
    
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    7 March 2024 17: 19
    
    It’s just that the engine has not yet been adopted and is not being distributed in print.
    
    Don't tell my slippers. Our ringing goes ahead of business, ahead of schedule for many years. And if the topic doesn’t take off, it looks like they’ve already forgotten about it. PD-14 has been approved for mass production since February 2021. In three years they should have filled it with engines. We have no breakthroughs in technology. But in PR we have no equal. Well, it would be nice to hang noodles on the ears of the gullible population. So, after all, the country’s leadership is completely unaware of the real state of affairs. This is where all sorts of SVO stem from.
    1. svoroponov
      
      0
      
      April 19 2024 11: 38
      
      Serial production - at the beginning there is a small installation series. During its operation, minor shortcomings are eliminated and the final assembly technology is worked out. And only after this the main series is produced for orders for the sides available with these engines, plus a reserve, plus spare parts.
      In addition, in connection with CO, part of the capacity is diverted to the production of what is needed there. So everything will happen even if the deadlines are postponed.
      I can say that in the West, in prosperous countries such as the USA and France, the problems with the development of aircraft engines and production are the same as ours. They just keep quiet about it, or rather, they simply don’t let the media spread it. There was a Boeing engineer who wanted to share how the sides were being assembled and what problems there were with it, so they just shot him in the parking lot. And how many were simply fired if they even mentioned any shortcomings. And losing a job is a tragedy. If you were fired for something from such an enterprise, then it’s like a wolf’s ticket and getting a job somewhere will be very problematic, but people have families.
      By the way, new jet engines are not being developed in the West in record time, ten years or no less. And some of the seemingly new ones have backlogs and even entire units from those that are already in operation.
      So there is no need to scold our developers and production workers, as well as those who make decisions. They come from opportunities and needs. Everything will happen if decisions are made.
hlp5118

+1

6 March 2024 16: 27

The D-18T was developed for about 40 years. Then the PD-35 (about which they said: just about) will be released in 2057. And they found someone to entrust. ARMATS, and UAVs had to be made on time.
1. strange guest
  
  +1
  
  6 March 2024 17: 16
  
  Did they really start right in 45?
vlad127490

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6 March 2024 17: 08

The date is confusing:

The start of serial production of domestic D-2027T engines is scheduled for the fourth quarter of 18 in Russia.

The engine has been in use for a long time, the diseases and shortcomings are known, it’s okay that the development is 40 years old, for example, a shovel is 5000 years old, but it is still mass-produced.
Today is March 06, 2024, which is preventing the Russian authorities from starting serial production of the D-18 engine in 2024, if officials say that everything is there. Maybe this is another election slogan of the oligarchs? After the elections everyone will forget everything.
1. svoroponov
  
  -1
  
  7 March 2024 12: 41
  
  The engine can be upgraded. New materials and new designs and solutions based on the latest technologies have appeared. They will be implemented, but time is needed for additional testing.
  For some reason, many here decided that a lot can be done quickly and now. But there is something that, even if you crack it, it won’t be possible to do it quickly even if everything is known. There is a period of design or a period of making changes to projects, there are periods of setting up production and cooperation on both main and auxiliary equipment, There is a period of assembly and testing. get around this time. At the computer you can press reset or reboot and start everything over again in a minute. But in real production this is far from the case. Even a woman gives birth within 7 to 9 months.
  So a request to everyone. Be patient and don't rush.
  1. twice-born
    
    0
    
    7 March 2024 13: 44
    
    10 years since 14 was not enough to create new engines, much less to implement proven developments, even with new materials? It’s enough even if you create new factories and establish connections! How long should we wait, another ten years, before the West finally crushes us? Under Stalin in the 30s. in ten years they created industry in the country from scratch, carried out “industrialization”, and even made reserve sites with communications for factories in the Urals in case of war!
    And this is thanks to order and personal responsibility at the top for sabotage, theft and criminal sloppiness. It’s only the Jews who have been telling us since Perestroika in the media, films and books that the innocent Russian people were repressed there. Since they themselves were the first to sit after the revolution in all the warm places and the majority obeyed their Western ruling clans!
    And now there is sabotage, theft and sloppiness from impunity, and betrayal of the rich and officials, where there are only a few Russians!
  2. vlad127490
    
    +1
    
    7 March 2024 15: 55
    
    Why bother with modernization if you urgently need an already working engine. Take it and do it, repeat. When you solve the problem, then start upgrading or developing a new one. When a house is on fire, they put it out, rather than modernize the fire truck.
Yuri Sotnikov

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6 March 2024 18: 47

First, we need to create a school of specialists (where can we get teachers?) Then teach how to make these engines. So we may not be able to make it by 28. As I remember, everyone was happy during perestroika, let’s start trading in natural resources and live like Arab sheikhs. We need these engineers. Then, of course, everyone denied it - they didn’t say such a thing.
1. Flight
  
  0
  
  12 March 2024 01: 35
  
  First you need to create a school of specialists (where to get teachers?)
  
  They will write you out, through Ali or ozone, for them this is not a problem.
anclevalico

0

18 March 2024 14: 27

More promises from worthless managers. Even by the 30th there will be nothing. Not with these, for sure...
Borrisych

0

April 18 2024 20: 20

Brothers, we must understand, unfortunately, that if there is no PD-35, D-18 and Tede, then we will be finished. Everyone. Anyone who thinks that he will personally be saved is mistaken. There will be an end to everything. Traitors too. Maybe even faster. The overwhelming majority of people still do not realize this, and will not realize it in the future. But it is so. I don't want peace. I wish everyone victory!