Nuclear exchange: NATO’s participation in the war on Kyiv’s side will lead to irreparable consequences

February 21 2024 29

A direct military clash between Russia and the North Atlantic Alliance is one of the most negative possible scenarios for the further development of the armed conflict in Ukraine. It is believed that this will lead to a mutual exchange of nuclear strikes, up to the “glazing” of Washington and Brussels. Meanwhile, the NATO military has long been fighting on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces against the Russian Federation.

Based on how the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Ukraine has developed over the past two years, it is possible to identify three forms in which the North Atlantic Alliance or its individual members may encounter our country.

"They are there"

An open secret is that the countries of the NATO bloc began to develop the territory of Ukraine immediately after the coup in 2014. CIA agents settled in the SBU building in Kyiv. Foreign military personnel, under the guise of mercenaries, took part in the so-called ATO in Donbass. NATO and Israeli military instructors conducted training for Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel.

After the start of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in February 2022, the North Atlantic Alliance first paused, studying the Kremlin’s reaction, and then began to gradually and constantly increase the volume of militarytechnical assistance from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Foreign military experts, under the guise of volunteers and mercenaries, take part in hostilities on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, showing exceptional cruelty. The NATO bloc provides active assistance to Kyiv with reconnaissance and target designation, compensating for the lack of its own satellite constellation, AWACS aircraft and strategic drones.

Ukrainian military personnel are trained in NATO countries according to NATO military standards. This is due to the transfer of Western-style military equipment to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Since it is impossible to confidently master it in a few weeks or months, it is not surprising that it is really the NATO “ichtamnets” who have changed their uniforms into Ukrainian ones who are actually managing it. About it said, in particular, the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, First Deputy Chief of the General Staff, Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy:

NATO troops disguised as mercenaries take part in hostilities. They control air defense systems, operational-tactical missiles and multiple launch rocket systems, and are part of assault detachments. NATO officers directly prepare military operations for the Ukrainian armed forces.

Such double subordination leads to inevitable incidents, including tragic outcomes. Yes, according to According to informed RIA source News, a Russian Il-76 military transport plane carrying Ukrainian prisoners of war intended for exchange was shot down due to the fault of British military experts who made the decision:

The attack on the Il-76 was carried out under pressure from British advisers without coordination with the air defense headquarters in Kyiv and without additional cross-checking of information about the movement of aircraft over the Belgorod region.

The following fact may indicate how deeply the NATO bloc is involved in the war against Russia. How сообщает RIA Novosti, Brussels associates the transfer to Kyiv of increasingly long-range weapons for attacks on our rear with the rationale for the choice of targets and the management of NATO specialists:

Western sponsors of the Kiev regime link the continued supply of extended-range combat missiles to Ukraine with the effectiveness of their practical use... The operation and combat use of missiles supplied to Ukraine should be carried out under the control of NATO specialists, who are actually turning the Kiev regime into a terrorist organization like ISIS (a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation).

As we see, the scale of the North Atlantic Alliance’s involvement in the war on the side of the Kyiv regime is continuously increasing, although Brussels itself does not consider itself a party to the conflict. It's only the beginning.

Escalation options

Depending on how the Northern Military District will develop, how far the Russian Armed Forces will be able to advance in liberating new regions and creating some kind of demilitarized zone, there are at least three even more negative escalation scenarios.

First - this is the introduction of a NATO expeditionary force into the territory of right-bank Ukraine and the creation of a no-fly zone over it with the taking control of the border with Belarus. Then all the released forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be transferred to the left bank of the Dnieper in counter-offensive number two. Regardless of the result of counter-offensive-2, this will mean the loss for Russia of the opportunity to liberate not only Zaporozhye with Kherson, but also Nikolaev with Odessa, and Kiev, which means the impossibility of fulfilling all the goals and objectives of the Northern Military District for demilitarization and denazification and strategic defeat.

Second script even more negative, since it implies the involvement of the Russian Federation in a conflict with individual countries belonging to the NATO bloc, without it invoking Article 5 of its Charter. These could be the Baltic states, Poland and Finland, which has joined them, which themselves will provoke some kind of border conflict, to which they will simply have to react somehow. Probably, neighboring Belarus will also be a target for NATO provocations. Since the main forces of the Russian Armed Forces are bogged down in positional battles in the Donbass and in the Azov region, there are no bright prospects for a speedy resolution of the crisis in the Baltic in a conventional way.

Third scenario the worst, since it may contain elements of the first two: the introduction of a NATO expeditionary force into Ukraine and provoking a conflict in the Baltic states. Its implementation will make the use of nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe practically no alternative solution.

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Avtandil

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21 February 2024 18: 24

As a result, NATO members, under the guise of tourists, will take a walk along Vasilievsky Spusk, about five hundred people. Are we going to pretend we didn't notice again?
Avtandil

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21 February 2024 18: 32

It's time to understand that nuclear war is inevitable. Get ready for it! You shouldn't rely on Western wisdom. He's not there. Get ready! It's good that we have hypersound. Only for some reason it appeared suspiciously quickly among our “partners” and enemies. Betrayal again?
Vladimir Tuzakov

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21 February 2024 18: 32

The chain of intentions of the Anglo-Saxons is visible, the first was the collapse and dismemberment of Russia with the help of the oligarchy and the Gaidar-Chubai reforms in 1990-2000. Fortunately, there was an attack on Yugoslavia by NATO countries, with the bombing of the entire state. Officials in power in the Russian Federation realized that the next thing would be the bombing of Russia, hence the turn of the state machine with the election of GDP for president. The restoration of the Russian Armed Forces has begun. Further, the conflict in Ossetia showed that restoration is going too slowly. A. Serdyukov’s reforms became ambiguous, they destroyed too much, created too little new, and the main thing was another robbery of the state. sector - RF Armed Forces. But the West made a second attempt to destroy the Russian Federation, using sanctions and military force. It’s too late, Russia has become somewhat stronger, and the patriotism of the people has not yet been completely eradicated by the liberals. These are difficult times for Russia, there are many compradors in power, many problems in the state, but the external threat unites many, this has saved Russia more than once.
1. Jstas
  
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  23 February 2024 09: 40
  
  The traitor Kuzminov was eliminated in Spain. What prevents the Jewish fascists entrenched in Moscow from being sent to Bandera?
  1. Vladimir Tuzakov
    
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    23 February 2024 13: 03
    
    To protect Russia, we need a defense center, but Russian patriots are in the pen, and various Peskovs, Solovyovs, Khinshteins, Medvedevs, Nabiullins, Lavrovs, the oligarchy, even the wife of the head of the SVR, etc., are from Raelite, with all connections in the board of the Russian Federation, and in hidden service to the United States. Here we are approaching the line when major corrections (denazification) are needed, but so far there is no one to carry them out, everything is being cleaned up through the manipulations of compradors. It’s like an allegory: “The Kremlin has been captured, Minin and Pozharsky are not yet visible.”
unc-2

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21 February 2024 18: 40

The fact that there are “mentors” in military affairs is not surprising. They are scattered all over the world. And among them are Russian officers. It’s another matter when they participate directly in military operations. Emergency measures are needed here. Otherwise, the participation of these persons of foreign nationality will only increase. Perhaps we even need “hunters” for these animals. One thing is clear: this cannot be left unpunished.
Victor Pater

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21 February 2024 19: 41

Unlikely. In the West, they are very afraid of the uncontrollable escalation of a possible conflict, because an exchange of nuclear strikes between the United States and the Russian Federation will lead them to such a weakening that they will not be able to resist that country. which will take advantage of this situation and become the hegemon in the world. Is this what the Anglo-Saxons want for saving Ukraine from the Russian Federation?
borisvt

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21 February 2024 19: 44

..Its implementation will make the use of nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe practically no alternative solution

It is clear that in this case it will be necessary to scare NATO members with something serious, and not just greet them with bombs from the UMPC.
However, if we look more broadly, it seems that with the growth of the Earth's population and the growing fearlessness of American politicians, if not now, then in the foreseeable future, nuclear weapons will be used, the only question is by whom and when, intentionally or through negligence. To my great regret, the world is living through a nuclear-free period.
Let's stock up on dosimeters, friends ((
Vdmx

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21 February 2024 20: 30

The United West declares that Russia should not win under any circumstances, and by Russia’s victory we mean the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the subsequent change of the regime in Kiev to a pro-Russian one, and it is assumed that the de facto frontier will become a new border between Ukraine and Russia, but strategically this will not be the case victory. Moscow declares its goal to be the security of Donbass, understanding that two DEs cannot be achieved without the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. These positions of the parties fully allow for the start of negotiations to end active hostilities.
All three scenarios are possible only if Moscow tries to take control of Zaporozhye or Kharkov, and the threat of the fall of these cities will be real, the West will respond with a decisive escalation, I strongly doubt that the Kremlin will agree to this.
1. Foe Pshekov
  
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  22 February 2024 03: 37
  
  The West will not escalate... even if we reach the borders of Poland. Even the migration of dill to the EU does not scare them much. Europe needs new white workers, because... Nigers and Arabs do not want to work.
  I will say more... The West is ready to sacrifice the Tribaltic clowns if the question is raised head on - sprats under the Russian Federation or nuclear carnage.
Adam

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21 February 2024 20: 54

If you want peace, prepare for nuclear war!
Jstas

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22 February 2024 08: 46

The very first option! Every day, on all channels /Western/, satellite, cable, on the Internet, play the AMERICAN film “The Next Day” about nuclear war... The very optimistic script of this film increased the purchase of nuclear shelters by hundreds of percent
prior

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22 February 2024 09: 38

Nuclear exchange: NATO's participation in the war on Kyiv's side will lead to irreparable consequences

Yes. There may not be enough diapers for all Europeans and Americans.
But seriously, until the first nuclear bomb explodes on Russian territory, Putin will not start.
Let's just hope it doesn't explode.
Sergey Latyshev

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22 February 2024 09: 48

Simple conclusions, just a reminder.
Such reminders can be written on virtually any topic.
“Russian resistance in non-war”, “China’s participation in the war”, “Honduras’ participation in the War”, etc.
And remembering the words of Simonyan, Medvedev, Kadyrov and others - they say, let’s choke on nuclear weapons....
DO

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22 February 2024 11: 29

Head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, First Deputy Chief of the General Staff, Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy:

NATO troops disguised as mercenaries take part in hostilities. They control air defense systems, operational-tactical missiles and multiple launch rocket systems, and are part of assault detachments. NATO officers directly prepare military operations for the Ukrainian armed forces.

The first and third escalation options provide for the formal introduction of a NATO expeditionary force into the territory of right-bank Ukraine. In military terms, this will not give the West significant additional advantages, since NATO military personnel, in fact, already participate unlimitedly in the air defense, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fight mainly with Western weapons and are trained according to NATO standards. That is, the formal entry of NATO into Ukraine will not give the West anything other than possible nuclear escalation.
The second option, the opening of a second front with a NATO country, in addition to a possible nuclear escalation, will make it necessary for Russia to attract significant additional resources to the military confrontation with the West, strengthening the military mobilization component of the Russian economy (“everything for the front, everything for victory”) and weakening “ civil" component, which will slow down the growth of the standard of living of the population of the Russian Federation.
Conclusions:
1) In today's conditions, any military escalation of the West towards Russia significantly increases the risk of the parties using nuclear weapons.
2) Of the three types of escalation identified by the author, the second is most likely.
1. Nelton
  
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  22 February 2024 14: 39
  
  Quote: DO
  Of the three types of escalation identified by the author, the second is most likely.
  
  ...with individual countries belonging to the NATO bloc, without invoking Article 5 of its Charter. This could be the Baltic states, Poland
  
  Strongly doubt.
  If ours do not dare to attack Poland while it is under NATO protection, then if it leaves under this umbrella, it will receive missile strikes on its territory.
  
  there are at least three even more negative escalation scenarios.
  
  There are others.
  The West is spinning up the flywheel of its military-industrial complex, moving to mass production of drones, incl. ground-based, supplies them en masse to Ukraine (as an option - in disassembled form, and Ukraine, as it were, “produces” them itself), while maintaining complete control over them, and ours have a very difficult time.
  
  But here the West may be overwhelmed by the desire to make something that is qualitatively superior to what is already in use, and this qualitative superiority will result in a wild price, and truly mass supplies will not be possible.
  
  Ours, of course, also need to organize the production of drones, not only airborne, but also ground-based, in the same size as four-wheeled walk-behind tractors. With the ability to fire shrapnel into the upper hemisphere.
  1. DO
    
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    22 February 2024 19: 36
    
    Quote from Nelton.
    Quote: DO
    Of the three types of escalation identified by the author, the second is most likely.
    
    ...with individual countries belonging to the NATO bloc, without invoking Article 5 of its Charter. This could be the Baltic states, Poland
    
    Strongly doubt.
    
    Perhaps it would be beneficial for the NATO masters to organize a confrontation with Russia, first of all, of the following NATO countries:
    - Norway, which is geographically closest to the Russian Northern Sea Route, and also borders the Russian Kola Peninsula (on which strategic military installations of the Russian Federation are located);
    - Finland, which “supports” Norway and has the ability to block the Gulf of Finland, and also has a border of over 1000 km with North-West Russia;
    - Estonia, which has the ability to block the Gulf of Finland and part of the Baltic, and has a more than 300-kilometer border with Russia.
    For a hypothetical invasion of NATO countries (primarily Poland) into the Kaliningrad region (KO), it is logical to precede the invasion with an attempt to isolate the KO from Russia - through a blockade of the Gulf of Finland + the Baltic, closing land supplies through the Baltic states and air corridors from Russia to KO.
    Therefore, the order of the hypothetical involvement of NATO countries in a conflict with Russia seems to be Norway + Finland - Estonia - Latvia + Lithuania (land blockade of the KR, blockade of the Baltic from the east) + Sweden (blockade of the Baltic from the west) - Poland (naval blockade of the KR from the south, land invasion of KO).
    ===
    This hypothetical scenario seems crazy to me too. But judging by the current Russophobic policy of the governments of the above-mentioned NATO countries, it seems that they cannot and/or do not want to resist external harsh political influence.
    1. strange guest
      
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      22 February 2024 22: 15
      
      A phobia is a strongly expressed persistent obsessive fear that irreversibly worsens in certain situations and cannot be fully explained logically.
      
      Yes, they are afraid of Russians. But the Russians themselves tried, and even wanted to be feared. And even now they want Russia to be feared. Therefore, talk about “Russophobia” is strange to say the least. This is exactly what the majority of Russians want. So that the West is afraid of them!
      1. DO
        
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        22 February 2024 23: 38
        
        A strange guest, the rulers of European countries are unlikely to be patients in ward number 6. Their actions are completely rational, logical and understandable. The question is - in whose interests are these actions? In the interests of their peoples? Or purely for themselves, loved ones, bought (for power or money) or intimidated? Military escalation, with the prospect of nuclear, in conditions when there are no real threats to their own countries, is definitely not in the interests of the population. So it's the second one.
        
        strange guest
        
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        23 February 2024 07: 53
        
        Do you think that everyone who has phobias (fears of the dark, heights, enclosed spaces, flying in airplanes, fear of water, snakes, spiders, the sight of blood, fear of death, fear of loneliness and others, others - there are a lot of phobias and Russophobia is one of them ) - patients of ward number 6? In vain. This is wrong. 90% of humanity suffers from phobias of various types. Or maybe all 100. They just haven’t been thoroughly examined). This is first of all.
        And secondly. Why do you think there are no obvious threats to their countries? Can you get into someone's head? They write to us a lot that the Russia-West confrontation has been going on for centuries. And now there’s another round. And they remember Khrushchev very well with his “We will bury you.” Well, Western countries don’t want to be buried.
        And thirdly. Westerners see Russians as more aggressive mentally. Here I see many calls to use nuclear weapons both in Ukraine and in Western capitals, a lot of hatred towards the Anglo-Saxons, Gay Europeans, etc., and in general towards citizens of other countries - not Russians.. Often openly offensive and derogatory definitions of entire nations and peoples. And from representatives of state TV channels and from ordinary subscribers. Even from representatives of the highest echelons of power - the same Medvedev. And this also causes fear. In the Western press there are practically very few such calls, such definitions and sentiments.
        
        DO
        
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        23 February 2024 15: 08
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        90% of humanity suffers from phobias of various types. Or maybe all 100.
        
        I am inclined to believe Wikipedia statistics more than yours:
        
        Quote: Wikipedia: Phobia
        Specific phobias affect about 6-8% of people in the Western world and 2-4% of people in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Social phobia affects about 7% of people in the United States and 0,5–2,5% of people in the rest of the world. Agoraphobia affects about 1,7% of people.
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        Why do you think there are no obvious threats to their countries? Can you get into someone's head?
        
        That is, the threat comes from the head of the patient in ward number 6, and not from objective reality.
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        They write to us a lot that the Russia-West confrontation has been going on for centuries. And now there’s another round. And they remember Khrushchev very well with his “We will bury you.” Well, Western countries don’t want to be buried.
        
        And this is generally pulling an owl onto a globe, for lack of other arguments. The Cuban Missile Crisis took place in October 1962. Today is February 2024. Neither Khrushchev nor the USSR have been gone for a long time.
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        Westerners see Russians as more aggressive mentally. Here I see many calls to use nuclear weapons both in Ukraine and in Western capitals, a lot of hatred towards the Anglo-Saxons, Gay Europeans, etc., and in general towards citizens of other countries - not Russians.. Often openly offensive and derogatory definitions of entire nations and peoples. And from representatives of state TV channels and from ordinary subscribers. Even from representatives of the highest echelons of power - the same Medvedev. And this also causes fear.
        
        Firstly, Western Russophobia finds a natural emotional response among Russians in the form of words.
        Secondly, the real threats, which are the basis for adequate responses from national governments, are the ACTIONS of the other side, not words.
        The SVO began as Russia’s response to the construction of military bases by NATO countries on the territory of Ukraine.
        Strengthening the defense of the Russian North-West is a response to Finland's accession to NATO.
        
        The largest exercise Steadfast Defender-2024, which will last until May and will take place, among other things, near the borders with the Kaliningrad region, is preparing NATO for a conflict with Russia, writes RIA Novosti with reference to the Financial Times.
        “The exercises are dedicated to preparing for a conflict with Russia,” the foreign publication quotes the head of the alliance’s military committee, Admiral Rob Bauer.
        Let us recall that earlier the Commander-in-Chief of NATO Allied Forces in Europe, Christopher Cavoli, said that the alliance would hold the “largest multi-month exercise in recent decades,” Steadfast Defender 2024. About 50 warships, 80 aircraft and 1,1 thousand units of ground military equipment, including 133 tanks and about 90 thousand military personnel, will participate in them. The maneuvers will be carried out in the Baltic countries, Poland and Germany.
        The exercise would see troops deployed to Lithuania and encircle the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad.
        
        To such a NATO rehearsal for war with Russia, which is essentially preparation for war, Russia is naturally forced to respond by strengthening its defense capabilities.
        
        strange guest
        
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        23 February 2024 15: 37
        
        VTsIOM specialists surveyed 1600 Russians over the age of 18 and found that 30% are afraid of heights, 28% of snakes, 24% of depth, 12% of germs, 10% of airplanes and 9% of lightning and large crowds of people. 20% of them have combined phobias. And only 2% do not feel fear of anything. This is about fears.
        I know that this is not 62. Also, this is not 1918 - which, however, is successfully used to substantiate geopolitical claims.
        And actions, not words, after 2022 inspire fear in Europeans. The introduction of new weapons of nuclear attack - hypersonic, underwater and space - also does not add optimism to Europeans.
        
        DO
        
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        23 February 2024 16: 14
        
        Phobias are the area of expertise of medicine, not VTsIOM. A natural fear of heights, snakes, depths, and so on, is inherent in the vast majority of healthy people, and is not a phobia.
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        I know that this is not 62. Also, this is not 1918 - which, however, is successfully used to substantiate geopolitical claims.
        
        Again you are talking about words.
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        And actions, not words, after 2022 inspire fear in Europeans.
        
        Once again, the NWO in Ukraine is a CONSEQUENCE of NATO’s aggressive advance towards the borders of Russia. If peaceful, negotiated means of ensuring Russia's security do not work, alas, only military ones remain.
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        The introduction of new weapons of nuclear attack - hypersonic, underwater and space - also does not add optimism to Europeans.
        
        Nuclear weapons have a finite shelf life. Therefore, the old generation of nuclear weapons is being replaced by a new one - both in Russia and in NATO countries.
        And yes, it is common knowledge that cosmic nuclear explosions are designed to create a powerful radio pulse that disables enemy satellites. Tests have shown that a cosmic nuclear explosion does not cause any harm to people on earth. And such anti-satellite weapons, along with anti-satellite weapons based on other physical principles, are available not only in Russia, but also in NATO countries.
        
        strange guest
        
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        23 February 2024 18: 53
        
        Tests have shown that a cosmic nuclear explosion does not cause any harm to people on earth
        
        Teller thought differently. And he was not the last expert in this matter.
        And regarding Russophobia, you simply don’t want to admit that it’s obvious that you achieved your goal... Did the Russians want Russia to be feared? They wanted to. Now they are afraid. And again the Russians are unhappy. It’s generally not clear what you want.
        
        DO
        
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        23 February 2024 19: 52
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        Quote: DO
        Tests have shown that a cosmic nuclear explosion does not cause any harm to people on earth
        
        Teller thought differently. And he was not the last expert in this matter
        
        Both the USA and the USSR have produced nuclear explosions in space, with yields ranging from 1,2 kilotons to 1450 kilotons:
        
        Quote: https://cosmos.vdnh.ru/izdoma/yadernye-vzryvy-v-kosmose/
        ... August 27, 1958. The experiment was called Argus. A warhead with a yield of 1,7 kilotons of TNT was blown up at an altitude of 170 km...
        ... Further, during the same experiment, two more warheads were blown up at intervals of three days at different altitudes (300 and 800 km) to compare the damaging factors.
        To monitor radiation in space before a nuclear test, the Explorer 4 satellite was launched. He discovered the formation of belts of radioactive particles that moved, driven by the Earth's magnetic field. Because of this, auroras were observed at southern latitudes, and not only in the test region near Johnson Atoll, but also at the opposite point of the Earth - near the island of Fiji. The first three weeks the belts were clearly recorded, but then their intensity weakened. ...
        ... As part of a project codenamed Starfish Prime, the Thor launch vehicle launched a bomb with a yield of 400 kilotons to an altitude of 1450 km.
        It was a monstrous explosion, five times stronger than all other cosmic explosions, both past and future. At the same time, there were no sounds, shaking or trembling. But the flash from the explosion was seen even at a distance of 6 thousand km. All electrical appliances went out in Hawaii. Auroras were visible over almost the entire territory of the Pacific Ocean for several days. The radiation belts were recorded for another five years.
        The explosion caused the shutdown of instruments not only on Earth, but also in space. A third of all available satellites have failed in orbit. The Explorer-14, Traac, Transit 4B, Ariel-1, and even the Soviet satellite Cosmos-5, which was supposed to record a future test in the USSR, stopped responding.
        There are several scientific works that claim that the consequences of these tests are still observed today in the form of electrical discharges in the ionosphere and a sharp increase in background radiation in the high layers of the atmosphere. In these places, an increase in the concentration of cadmium Cd-109, which was used in bombs, was also recorded.
        
        Note that the power of the experimental American anti-satellite charge of 1,5 megatons is greatly excessive.
        The opinion of the famous theoretical physicist Teller on this issue would be interesting. Is it possible to have a link?
        
        Quote: Strange guest
        again the Russians are unhappy. It’s generally not clear what you want.
        
        Like all normal people, Russians want a calm, peaceful life. Just like you, Russian Jews in Israel. But alas, the collective West is objectively showing aggression, having moved NATO infrastructure close to Russia’s borders over the past decades.
    2. Nelton
      
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      23 February 2024 16: 48
      
      Quote: DO
      Finland, which “supports” Norway and has the ability to block the Gulf of Finland, and also has a border of over 1000 km with North-West Russia;
      
      Then it was easier not to rush into accepting Finland into NATO.
      But in general this is all completely far-fetched.
      If there was a desire, and without extra countries they could promote escalation, starting at least with long-range missile attacks on the old regions of the Russian Federation, from the territory of Ukraine.
      1. DO
        
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        23 February 2024 17: 25
        
        Quote from Nelton.
        Quote: DO
        Finland, which “supports” Norway and has the ability to block the Gulf of Finland, and also has a border of over 1000 km with North-West Russia;
        
        Then it was easier not to rush into accepting Finland into NATO.
        But in general this is all completely far-fetched.
        If there was a desire, and without extra countries they could promote escalation, starting at least with long-range missile attacks on the old regions of the Russian Federation, from the territory of Ukraine.
        
        The possibility of “strikes with long-range missiles against old regions of the Russian Federation, from the territory of Ukraine” has not gone away. And the admission of Finland to NATO, in the near future, will further bring NATO infrastructure closer to the North-West of Russia, and will provide the possibility of attacks with tactical missiles and MLRS on important Russian targets, including St. Petersburg and the military units surrounding it.
Insolent in a jacket

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27 February 2024 11: 11

...This material should have appeared at least a year ago!..
But better late than never.

Option four (planned and therefore real): To replace the thinned out and well “defeated” Ukrovermacht, come the Armed Forces (in order of priority(!))))) - of the countries of the former Warsaw Pact..., first of all, - Polish ( plus Romanian and (even) Hungarian, you can’t count the Baltic mongrels...) Money, loans, investments from the Great West will have to be worked off... Plus, provocations will probably be organized against the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus and Central Asia...
The most unpleasant thing for the RF Armed Forces will be the establishment of a no-fly zone not only over the Right Bank, but also, possibly, over all territories of the former Ukrainian SSR... Plus the use of long-range missile weapons against the Russian Federation...
The Great West will try to expose the Eastern European countries of the former ATS to a nuclear attack...
Insolent in a jacket

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27 February 2024 12: 19

...This material should have appeared at least a year ago!..
But better late than never.

Option four (planned and therefore real): To replace the thinned out and well “defeated” Ukrovermacht, come the Armed Forces (in order of priority(!))))) - of the countries of the former Warsaw Pact..., first of all, - Polish ( plus Romanian and (even) Hungarian, you can’t count the Baltic mongrels...) Money, loans, investments from the Great West will have to be worked off... Plus, provocations will probably be organized against the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus and Central Asia...
The most unpleasant thing for the RF Armed Forces will be the establishment of a no-fly zone not only over the Right Bank, but also, possibly, over all territories of the former Ukrainian SSR... Plus the use of long-range missile weapons against the Russian Federation...
The Great West will try to expose the Eastern European countries of the former ATS to a nuclear attack...

The most paradoxical and tragic thing is that of the warring parties, the states of the Collective Great West can be considered the most faithful to their Principles and Ideals... (i.e. the USA, Britain, Western Europe, etc.) - BECAUSE THEY - NEVER THEY DID NOT CHANGE these principles of theirs, deeply hostile to Russia...
And they were (AND WILL BE) faithful to them always... (Which We are now experiencing the hard way! And we are trying to unravel.)
Drah nah Osten... That says it all...
In contrast to the various vile and corrupt Russian Gorbachev-Yeltsin... and other party-nomenklatura-oligarchic evil spirits who surrendered to the Insidious Enemy both the Department of Internal Affairs, and Eastern Europe, and their Motherland - the Great USSR!..

This means that everyone will have to pay for everything...
And because: ROME DOES NOT PAY TRAITORS! - then the fifth column of the Russian Federation is clearly doomed... Moreover, the West does not need witnesses...

It's a pity. Can you imagine how great it would be if now, somewhere in the GDR, there were our Iskanders!.. And in Hungary and Czechoslovakia at the same time.