The Russian Armed Forces have created unique tactical strike and assault formations to “break into” the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

February 11 2024 42 967 45

What is happening in the Northern Military District zone is being comprehensively studied by military analysts. For example, Russian expert Vladislav Shurygin tried to answer a number of important questions in his Telegram channel. Are the Russian Armed Forces capable of carrying out a large strategic offensive and is there a “curse of the First World War” when defense becomes the main type of combat for all sides?

According to the expert, currently the main difficulty of the troops is the stage of breaking through the front line. At the same time, Russia cannot afford to make a breakthrough according to the standards of the Red Army during the Second World War with thousands of dead and hundreds of thousands of shells fired. But until recently, there was no other way to conduct an offensive.

The Wagner assault on Bakhmut, when by the spring of 2023, the losses of the Wagner during this assault amounted to almost 50% of all Russian losses during the war, is definitely not an example of how to fight. With such losses today, not only the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but also we would be carrying out the third or fourth wave of mobilization! But the experience of assault urban battles itself was unique

- he noted.

The expert noted that since December 2023, unique assault detachments have appeared in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces; they are called “assaults.” They are mixed combat groups (formations) the size of a battalion or regiment, which includes the most proactive military personnel, including infantrymen, snipers, sappers, signalmen, reconnaissance officers, spotters, medics, i.e. everyone who can be useful in taking a well-protected opornik enemy. The actions of the attack aircraft are supported by the combat control center, artillerymen, UAV operators and electronic warfare equipment.

In fact, new tactical shock-assault formations (USF) have emerged

- he added.

Shurygin pointed out that very quickly these CSFs began to show their effectiveness. It was they who recently took Marinka, and now they are “hacking” the defenses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Avdeevka. According to the expert, a tool has been created to overcome “impenetrable” defenses. But the effectiveness of this tool has yet to be honed during the Northern Military District, taking into account the modern realities of combat operations.

The processes taking place at the front today allow us to hope that by spring our army will reach a qualitatively new level of combat operations and the notorious “curse of the First World War” will finally be overcome

He summed up.

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Sergey Latyshev

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11 February 2024 11: 36

Having no analogues in the world...
1. IMHO
  
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  11 February 2024 22: 22
  
  Removed from the tongue! )))))
rotkiv04

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11 February 2024 11: 48

So how were Wagner's stormtroopers different from the USF? Only in that they were limited in various types of BP, this was the reason for their huge losses and this became the reason for Prigozhin's rebellion, and now all sorts of experts cite the storming of Artemovsk as an example of how not to do it.
1. serivolkf1
  
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  11 February 2024 22: 36
  
  well, it’s already good, it’s time to take the cook’s noodles out of his ears... there, worthy guys were also intimidated with punishment for fear of dying not heroically...
2. svoroponov
  
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  12 February 2024 12: 10
  
  Nobody limited them. They had plenty of this ammunition in their warehouses in the rear, but for some reason they were not delivered to the front. The Wagnerites mainly used artillery support from our Armed Forces and demanded continuous fire support, often not providing target coordinates or even their location, and UAVs were not very good for reconnaissance. Therefore, our artillery from the Armed Forces conducted more barrage fire in directions and areas than aimed fire, and such a regime assumes an overexpenditure of shells. In addition, Ukraine had problems with logistics for the delivery of ammunition, etc. Sometimes in one area there could be up to 3 settlements with the same name, and the settlements themselves often simply moved from one to another and it was impossible to understand where and which one. It seems clear on the map, but in reality on the ground .......?. In addition, confusion was caused by the renaming of different OPs by the Ukrainians. Therefore, when delivering, an escort with people who knew where to take it was required, which often did not work out.
  Yes, there was no talk of 20000 killed and no commander could have known about the group's losses unless he worked at the group's headquarters, but I don't think anyone would have voiced that from there. The last information about the Wagnerites was about slightly more than 8000 losses in the video with Prigozhin from the cemetery in Krasnodar. A little more than 800 people are buried there.
  But about 8000 is also quite decent. But they were at the forefront of attacks in their sector against the most motivated Ukrainian units and fortified positions.
  Based on 20000, this is most likely the total losses of the Wagnerites for the entire operation, and even then these are killed or even wounded, who will no longer be able to return back to the front, where they fought in more than one place.
  1. Eduard Viktorovich
    
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    13 February 2024 14: 35
    
    Your post looks like some kind of excuse. ... NP is not like that ... the coordinates are crooked ... some kind of nonsense, I was in the hospital with the Wagnerites ... they went to a contract with the Army because of larger payments ... they spoke about the army men as if they were not ice ... in three lost in the pines...
  2. Vladimir Tuzakov
    
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    14 February 2024 20: 37
    
    (Vyacheslav) Don't cast a shadow on the fence. The Wagnerites were the most professional fighters and such nonsense as you are telling did not exist (this was in the linear units). The Wagnerites were the first to massively use UAVs for reconnaissance and assault, and controlled the assault by viewing the battlefield from the UAV. (Syrian experience). They called for artillery support based on targets with coordinates. Here there were delays due to internal disagreements - the RV Armed Forces looked too indecent in comparison with the actions of the Wagnerites... The main overexpenditure of ammunition and artillery barrels occurred in the summer of 2022, when, under pressure from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, they began to look for counteraction, then they used "fire shafts", that is, they shelled areas - the result was "lunar landscapes" with almost zero defeats. These were the wise men from the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces who did this, using up many hundreds of thousands of tons of ammunition, and later, following the example of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, began to saturate UAVs and carry out more targeted artillery strikes. Conclusion: you are either talking nonsense or defending the failed actions of the high command of the Russian Armed Forces.
Alexey Lan

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11 February 2024 12: 14

The “Wagner” assault on Bakhmut, when by the spring of 2023, the losses of the “Wagners” during this assault amounted to almost 50% of all losses of the Russian side

So, how much were all the losses of the Russian side, if the losses of musicians for Soledar and Bakhmut amounted to 20 thousand killed (Words of the deputy commander of the PMC)? And this is for the spring of 2023. And how much now? I think about 100 thousand have accumulated taking into account Avdiivka. And at the same time, the minus-voters give me minuses for the fact that I propose to use TNW. These subjects do not feel sorry for our next tens of thousands of fighters. And a breakthrough of the echeloned defense with the use of TNW would have a good effect.
1. H.J.P.
  
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  11 February 2024 13: 03
  
  We will then live on this earth.
  1. Alexey Lan
    
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    11 February 2024 13: 30
    
    I hope you won't go live on the ground in the breach site. Besides, with an airborne tactical nuclear strike, the contamination of the area is insignificant and practically disappears over time. Learn civil defense.
    1. k7k8
      
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      11 February 2024 19: 17
      
      Quote: Alexey Lan
      I hope you don’t go to live on earth at the site of the breakthrough
      
      It seems that you have already written an application to the migration service to move to the specified zone and for financial assistance for the move?
    2. Watching
      
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      11 February 2024 22: 05
      
      Starting to use nuclear weapons will not go unanswered, they are just waiting for this to pulverize Russia. Didn't you hear what the president said? Applicable, but in case of existential necessity.
    3. strange guest
      
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      12 February 2024 00: 12
      
      Indiscriminate action. There was an air blast of 13 kilotons over Hiroshima. Like a modern tactical charge. Too many civilians will get charred. All major support workers who deserve tactical nuclear weapons are not in the open field. The world won't understand.
    4. Eduard Viktorovich
      
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      13 February 2024 14: 37
      
      NOT funny...enough of Chernobyl.
  2. Glagol1
    
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    11 February 2024 15: 04
    
    Contamination of the area from tactical nuclear weapons is small, moreover, it quickly decreases and quickly stops. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quickly rebuilt and there has been no radiation there for a long time. But the use of tactical nuclear weapons must pose a clear threat to the existence of Russia, and we are basically fighting on foreign territory. The 404 is an existential threat. But thank God they don’t have weapons of mass destruction.
    1. Alexey Lan
      
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      11 February 2024 15: 59
      
      In terms of the concept of using nuclear weapons, you are right, but what can you say if, in the process of a long confrontation, the economy of the Russian Federation degrades very much, or when conducting offensive operations, the losses of the Russian Armed Forces will amount to tens of thousands killed. And what to choose? Changing the concept of nuclear weapons or the death of soldiers?
      1. Sergey Prutkov55
        
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        11 February 2024 18: 30
        
        In Ukraine, nuclear weapons are unnecessary. Why spoil your territory. You need conventional high-power weapons to clear the area before advancing 20-30 kilometers. The rest is cleared using grenade launchers. And more panic in the enemy ranks. How ? Anyone. Just go around the cities. Before this, immobilize the enemy by knocking out fuel reserves and ammunition depots.
        
        Alexey Lan
        
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        11 February 2024 22: 47
        
        You need conventional high-power weapons to clear the area before advancing 20-30 kilometers.
        
        It would be nice to do so, but we are not moving even 5 km. At best, 1 km. The near future will show what we are capable of. Winter is ending. For some reason, they are not bypassing the cities. High-power weapons cost a lot. TNW will be cheaper and more effective. If we stand idle until autumn again, then we will have to use TNW. There will simply be no other way out. It is a pity for the Ukrainians. Yes, it is a pity. Well, and don't you feel sorry for ours? By the way, the use of TNW will allow us to end the war called the SVO faster. And this means many thousands of lives, both ours and even Ukrainians.
        
        svoroponov
        
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        12 February 2024 12: 18
        
        Why move quickly? You have to feel sorry for your own soldiers. Reconnaissance, suppression and destruction of the enemy and only then an approach for cleanup, and demining the area for passage of people and equipment also takes a decent amount of time. That's why they are in no hurry. People are more valuable than time. The main thing is to grind the enemy's manpower, successfully, with minimal losses of their own. This is the chosen tactic.
        
        strange guest
        
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        13 February 2024 22: 10
        
        It’s good that the Red Army did not have such tactics. Otherwise they would have stood on the Volga for years.
        
        strange guest
        
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        12 February 2024 00: 14
        
        Cities with garrisons cannot be left - a threat to both communications and breakthrough units. They themselves may find themselves in the boiler without fuel and lubricants and shells.
      2. assault 2019
        
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        14 February 2024 19: 31
        
        We need to change the concept of recruiting assault troops.
        Conduct a mass mobilization of guest workers who have received Russian citizenship since 1990.
        Who refuses to fight, suitcase-station-aul.....
    2. Sergey Prutkov55
      
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      11 February 2024 18: 36
      
      This is the territory of the Russian Empire. The Russian Federation is the direct successor not only of the USSR, but also of Tsarist Russia. Who doesn’t know, the Russian Federation paid off the debts of the Russian Empire. We paid off the debts, now we need to get our assets back. So the territory is not alien. This is all the fruit of enemy propaganda. Not forgetting that power there was seized and not obtained through elections. False elections after the dispersal of the opposition do not count. There is no legitimate authority there.
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3. serivolkf1
  
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  11 February 2024 22: 41
  
  from one extreme to another, for you we fill them with corpses and you propose to burn all the ukrov with a shaitan bomb... maybe we need a little prudence!
beeper

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11 February 2024 12: 41

Then call them USB-shock assault brigades (battalions?)!
By analogy with our Soviet DShB and Red Army ShSB (or "ShiSBy")!
This will sound militant and threatening, cocky, masculine!
Moreover, “among the people”, among the soldiers, the common nouns “USHeBe”, “UShiBy” (or even “ShiBanutye” - desperate, dashing in unbridled prowess) are more likely to take root than “UShiFy” (then just “SheFy” ???).
And what is this “non-sounding” USF with the ambivalent word “formation” of the neuter “it”?!
After all, “whatever you call the ship, that’s how it will sail!”
Therefore, it’s better to name it correctly from the beginning!
*******
An example from "Ukrainian life" - It was, although it has been a long time since we heard about them (apparently the "magic of the name" worked and something else), in the Armed Forces of Ukraine they stupidly renamed (to please the militant nationalists and so that "it would definitely not be like in the USSR and the Russian Federation") the former Airborne Forces into the Airborne Assault Forces, and in speech it sounds like "DeSheVe", i.e. in "state language" - a direct analogy (which the initiators of the renaming - "Ukrainianizing" Russian-speaking Maidan politicians - "professional Ukrainians", opportunistically, and through a stump-deck - funny "in Surzhik style", "having switched" to their foreign "state language", did not even feel?) "DeShёVoe" (in Ukrainian colloquialism "desheve" - is like the Russian "cheap", something throwaway, of low quality, not worth serious consideration)!
Vladimir Tuzakov

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11 February 2024 13: 21

The Germans, as legislators of military art, always looked for and found new methods and tactics during operations. (Officer school). In the second half of the Great Patriotic War, the Germans created such combined units into one combat "strike group" and called them by the commander's last name. Initially, combined assault groups have long been used. So we have to recall old experience and look for new methods and tactics in the changing circumstances of military operations. And about the names. New weapons, tactics, etc. are emerging in the SVO. The new names used are confused, in several versions. and without a clear definition. For example: attack formations (NShF). Attack and assault are essentially synonyms, formations - uncertainty in composition. Conclusion: the term does not match the designation. Perhaps better: combined assault (integral assault) groups, brigades, divisions, with the addition of the commander or place of action. The Russian Ministry of Defense also needs such regulation of new designations for application.
1. twice-born
  
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  11 February 2024 22: 34
  
  Yeah, only we can learn from the fascists! Why did the Germans, so tough, smart, experienced and educated, with their “officer school”, then retreat from us in the second half of the Great Patriotic War, right up to Berlin?!
  1. Vladimir Tuzakov
    
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    12 February 2024 11: 35
    
    Reply. Truthfully perceiving the enemy is not a panigeric, but a necessary component for improving one's own forces. As for the Germans in WWII, one must be amazed at the resilience and strength of the Wehrmacht, which fought with the whole world since 1942 (the merit of "Fuhrer" Hitler, who declared war on the USA).
    1. twice-born
      
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      12 February 2024 14: 29
      
      We have already accepted the enemy truthfully 81 years ago, and since 43 we have driven him from our land and defeated him in his own lair! So you’ve already learned from the “legislators of military science,” and there’s no need for you to learn from those who lost to us now!
      And what kind of “whole world” did the Wehrmacht fight with?! Was he fighting with his masters and sponsors, the impudent Americans, who, since June 44, pretended to be at war with them? And then the Germans in April and May regiments surrendered to the Allies without a fight and until August they stood in combat readiness in their “captivity”, many with weapons, to attack Russia!
      They "fought" awesomely! There, “the whole world” was just us, who really fought, just with the whole world, with all of Europe for sure!
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov
        
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        12 February 2024 19: 23
        
        Reply. The Red Army's losses to the Wehrmacht in the first half of WWII: 11 to 1, in the second half 7 to one. In the end, they won with almost tenfold losses (8 to 1). They won because they could sacrifice so many of their fighters, other countries were not capable of such sacrifices. Draw the right conclusions.
  2. svoroponov
    
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    12 February 2024 12: 23
    
    There is no shame in learning from everyone if it is effective. The same Germans, having watched the landing in 1936 during our exercises, took this into service. Yes, many people adopted something based on the model and likeness.
AlOrg

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11 February 2024 15: 59

There will be no breakthroughs until one of the sides gains comprehensive superiority in the main types of weapons, reconnaissance and target designation equipment. Our army lacks advantages in counter-battery warfare, unmanned aerial vehicles, communications, space and electronic reconnaissance. The Air Force lacks an advantage in the air and the provision of projectiles. The side that quickly eliminates its shortcomings will begin to attack
sannyhome

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11 February 2024 16: 03

Russian expert Vladislav Shurygin on his Telegram channel

and this assault accounted for almost 50% of all losses of the Russian side during the war

Wow, what a cool telegram expert! Shoigu himself reports to him about the losses! Amazing...
Kiril

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11 February 2024 17: 52

Expert Shurygin - it sounds like his brain
Sergey Prutkov55

+3

11 February 2024 18: 21

In order not to have large losses, we must remember the methods of the Americans in Iraq. They collected all the grenade launchers in the United States and did not allow enemy infantry closer than two kilometers. Before moving, everything was processed by grenade launchers, any rustle. And before that, it would be good to burn out the frontal area and the near rear with thermobaric charges. It is necessary to increase the density of fire at the breakthrough site several times.
1. svoroponov
  
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  12 February 2024 12: 27
  
  They couldn't take Raku, even though they had a 10-fold advantage. They simply reduced it to dust with bombings along with the civilians.
  Although you may be right, burn everything out with fire and a hot iron.
dubas

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11 February 2024 19: 10

Quote: Sergey Latyshev
Having no analogues in the world...

namely, past military operations.
twice-born

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11 February 2024 22: 29

They won’t come up with anything to excuse themselves and say that now, just a little more, and how we’ll jump out, how we’ll jump out! So already 2 years!
1. svoroponov
  
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  12 February 2024 12: 31
  
  In more detail: who is trying to make excuses? Where is this stated? And by whom?
  On the contrary, they say that they will finish when all the stated goals are achieved, without specifying a time frame. This is from the official authorities. Well, let the rest babble whatever they want. Don't listen to them. So many people, so many opinions.
vlad127490

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11 February 2024 23: 42

What to discuss when there is no political decision from the Kremlin. To fight you need a goal, strategy, etc. The SVO is more like a computer game for politicians, only the losses are natural. There will be no victory from renaming and new names, without increasing weapons and numbers, and proper leadership.
1. svoroponov
  
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  12 February 2024 12: 37
  
  You shouldn't reveal your plans in advance, and especially not with a report to you.
  Everything is being done correctly. The enemy does not need to know all the plans so that in the future, with its Western partners, it does not counteract in these directions. Knowing what the attacking side wants, it is easier to build a defense.
  I wonder how many of those writing on this thread served in the army, because from the comments it seems that there are practically none of them here. Only schoolchildren and students with a humanities focus.
strange guest

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12 February 2024 00: 03

Well, let's see. The main thing is that after “gnawing through” the defense, there is someone to develop the success.
savage3000

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12 February 2024 10: 47

This is some kind of nonsense. Somewhere, someone, sometime, somehow...
viktor goblin

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12 February 2024 18: 58

Thermobaric bombs decided to save money?
assault 2019

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14 February 2024 19: 26
Everything new is well forgotten old!
Remember the engineering assault brigades and battalions in “armor” from the Second World War, they were the ones in the forefront of storming the cities of Eastern Europe and Germany.