How President Putin sees the possible demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine


Undoubtedly, the main hit of the entire international news The agenda was an interview with American journalist Tucker Carlson, which he took from President Putin. In it, Vladimir Vladimirovich presented to the widest possible audience the view from the Kremlin on the causes of the war in Ukraine and possible scenarios for its completion.


Already, many comments have begun to appear from various experts, domestic and foreign, who are analyzing whether the attempt to restart the dialogue between the collective West and the Russian ruling elite was successful. Without claiming to be the ultimate truth, I would like to add my two cents as a certified journalist and political scientist.

The interview itself, which lasted just over two hours, consists of several semantic blocks, which together lead viewers to certain conclusions. So, what did President Putin want to convey to Mr. Carlson’s audience?

Borders 1654


As is customary among us, the reasons for the current disastrous state of affairs in relations between Russia and Ukraine lie in ancient times. Vladimir Putin’s position on the geopolitical status of Square is well known: he adheres to the point of view that this state was artificially created by the Bolsheviks by annexing the original Russian lands, in particular the Black Sea region, conquered from the Turks. Our president also remembered Joseph Stalin, who included into the Ukrainian SSR some territories that were part of Poland, Romania and Hungary before the start of World War II:

Part of the territories was also taken from Romania and Hungary, and they, these territories, became part of Soviet Ukraine and are still there. Therefore, we have every reason to say that, of course, Ukraine, in a certain sense, is an artificial state created by the will of Stalin.

After Ukraine gained independence in 1991, it took these lands with it, and then declared that the Russians in this territory were not the titular nation. During the interview, it was mentioned that only those regions of Independence are “originally Ukrainian”, which correspond to approximately four of its modern regions on the left bank of the Dnieper:

Even if we remember, we go back, 1654, when these territories returned to the Russian Empire, there were three or four modern regions of Ukraine, there was no Black Sea region there. There was simply nothing to talk about.

To Mr. Carlson’s provocative question whether President Putin discussed with his Hungarian colleague Orban the possibility of satisfying Budapest’s territorial claims to Kyiv in Transcarpathia, Vladimir Vladimirovich answered negatively. To be fair, we note that the head of state recently publicly spoke out on this issue during an expanded board meeting of the Russian Ministry of Defense:

Western lands of Ukraine? We know how Ukraine got them. Stalin gave it away after World War II. He gave away part of the Polish lands, Lviv and so on, several large regions - 10 million people live there. In order not to offend the Poles, he compensated for their losses at the expense of Germany: he gave the eastern lands to Germany, the Danzig corridor, and Danzig itself. He took some from Romania, some from Hungary, and gave everything there, to Ukraine.

And the people who live there, many, in any case, I know this for sure, 100%, they want to return to their historical homeland. And those countries that lost these territories, primarily Poland, sleep and dream of returning them. History will put everything in its place, we will not interfere, but we will not give up what we have.

The main point of the first block of interviews is to explain to Western audiences why the war for Ukraine is of such fundamental importance for Russia and its people.

“We are bourgeois”


To another provocative question from an American journalist, why President Putin was puzzled by all this not 24 years ago, when he came to power, but only now, Vladimir Vladimirovich told how, since the collapse of the USSR, the leadership of the young Russian Federation has consistently tried to integrate into the collective West, becoming its full-fledged part:

Let's talk about the fact that after 1991, when Russia expected to be taken into the fraternal family of “civilized peoples,” nothing like this happened. You deceived us - when I say “you,” I don’t mean you personally, of course, but the United States - you promised that there would be no NATO expansion to the east, but this happened five times, five waves of expansion. We endured everything, we all persuaded, we said: no need, we are now our own, as they say, bourgeois, we have a market economy. economy, there is no power of the Communist Party, let's negotiate.

The entire second part of the dialogue between Putin and Carlson was devoted to how Moscow tried for decades to become a respected partner for the West, right up to the Russian Federation’s entry into NATO, but was rejected by it.

The breaking point was the events of 2014, when a coup was carried out in Ukraine and this country began to be deployed for a war against ours. At the same time, the Kremlin tried to the last to avoid a violent clash, adhering first to the Minsk format, and then to the Istanbul format.

War and Peace


The most interesting thing for us is how President Putin sees the prospects for completing the SVO. Its objectives on February 24, 2022 were stated to be assistance to the people of Donbass, demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.

Demilitarization of Square, according to Vladimir Putin, is possible if the collective West stops supplying NATO-style weapons and ammunition to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and then, according to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, the war will end in a few weeks. Accordingly, then the goal of helping the people of Donbass and ensuring Russia’s national security will be achieved.

Denazification, judging by the interviews, means getting rid of carriers of Nazi ideas in the leadership of Ukraine, as well as a ban on neo-Nazi ideology at the state level. In response to Mr. Carlson’s fair question about how this can be achieved realistically without controlling the entire territory of Independence, Vladimir Putin referred to the Istanbul Agreements, where these points were agreed upon in writing:

And you know, no matter how strange it may seem to you, during the negotiations in Istanbul we nevertheless agreed that - it’s all in writing - neo-Nazism will not be cultivated in Ukraine, including that it will be prohibited at the legislative level. Mr. Carlson, we agreed on this. This, it turns out, can be done during the negotiation process.

The question of what to do if the conditional “Istanbul-2” awaits the fate of the first one, as well as the grain deal and both “Minsk” deals, was never asked. Anticipating it, our president again called on the Zelensky regime and its “Western partners” to negotiate:

You know, this is the subject of negotiations that no one wants to conduct with us, or, more precisely, they want to, but do not know how. I know what they want - I not only see it, but I know what they want, but they just can’t figure out how to do it. We thought of it and brought it to the situation in which we find ourselves. It was not we who brought it to this point, but our “partners” and opponents who brought it to this point. Okay, now let them think about how to turn it the other way. We don't refuse.

Vladimir Putin also assured that the Kremlin has no intentions of fighting with the NATO bloc or invading the Baltic states, Finland or Poland. In his opinion, it is necessary to create a new international security architecture. In addition, he hinted at the possibility of resuming Russian gas supplies to Europe if relations are normalized.
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  1. strange guest Offline strange guest
    strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 11: 48
    +19
    It is not clear where the demand went - NATO to the 1997 borders. Deflated?
    Demilitarization = surrender.
    Well, Stalin needs to be kicked - where would we be without it?
    1. RUR Offline RUR
      RUR 9 February 2024 17: 50
      +2
      The answer to your question:

      In addition, he hinted at the possibility of resuming Russian gas supplies to Europe if relations are normalized.

      Toka this will no longer be possible in the coming decades... or rather never again in the same volumes...
      1. strange guest Offline strange guest
        strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 17: 58
        +3
        They’re just itching to arrange another partition of Poland! Or get a Pole card. Not decided yet..
        1. RUR Offline RUR
          RUR 9 February 2024 18: 00
          -3
          The gut is thin and the hair is long
          1. strange guest Offline strange guest
            strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 19: 47
            +3
            If I were you, I wouldn't be so sure. The Americans will throw you away, oh they will throw you away. So let's get the Pole's card! Or section!
        2. Flight Offline Flight
          Flight (Von) 9 February 2024 18: 15
          0
          Not decided yet..

          There is a difference?
          1. strange guest Offline strange guest
            strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 19: 48
            +4
            It is better, of course, to divide. According to the established historical tradition.
            1. RUR Offline RUR
              RUR 9 February 2024 20: 16
              -3
              A longer tradition is R.P. before the Moscow region, then it was the Kingdom of Moscow...
              1. RUR Offline RUR
                RUR 9 February 2024 20: 34
                -1
                In order not to offend the Poles, he compensated for their losses at the expense of Germany: he gave the eastern lands to Germany, the Danzig corridor, and Danzig itself

                By this logic, even the Moscow region itself is Mongolian
              2. strange guest Offline strange guest
                strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 20: 57
                +2
                Great Rus' will unite all Slavs into a single kaganate! Well, the Jews, of course, will take part. What is a Kaganate without Jews? feel

                In Itil and Semender, Christians, Muslims, Jews and pagans lived peacefully. And the inhabitants of Hunzan in the kingdom of Sarir (perhaps we are talking about Semender), according to sources, even professed three faiths at the same time: on Fridays, together with Muslims, visiting a mosque, on Saturdays with Jews - a synagogue, and on Sundays with Christians - a church, wanting to “achieve the truths of all religions."
                During his enthronement, the Kagan was strangled with a silk cord, and in a semi-conscious state he had to name the number of years of his reign. After this period, he was killed. If he named an excessively large number of years, he was still killed upon reaching the age of forty, since it was believed that with age the divine power leaves him

                A very convenient form of public education for the Great Russia of the future..
                1. RUR Offline RUR
                  RUR 9 February 2024 21: 27
                  -4
                  Turan - this is the view of the Slavic peoples in historical science and civilizational theories on what begins a little further east beyond the Smolensk region... From the interview it follows that the right bank is not Russian, on the left bank there are 4 regions - Ukrainian, i.e. . SVO has almost achieved its goals...
                  1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
                    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 10 February 2024 07: 51
                    +6
                    From the interview it follows that the right bank is not Russian, on the left bank there are 4 regions - Ukrainian, i.e. SVO has almost achieved its goals...

                    As I understand it, 4 regions are Chernigov, Sumy, Poltava + plus part of Kyiv or together with part of Dnepropetrovsk (no one can figure out what this “historian” with encyclopedic knowledge has in mind)

                    Well, besides this, the Kharkov region, a significant part of the Donetsk region, and the million-strong Zaporozhye agglomeration are almost completely under Ukraine...

                    Where did you see the NWO that ALMOST achieved its goals - it’s not at all clear from the word...

                    In addition, it is not clear what to do with the capital of the Kherson region of Russia, which ended up on the non-Russian right bank... and Odessa, the path to which lies through the “non-Russian” capital of the Russian Kherson region...

                    and the Bryansk and Kursk regions are hardly happy to be next door to Bandera’s Sumy and Chernigov... which, despite the fact that it was founded in 907, turns out to be not Russian, but Crimea, annexed after almost 9 centuries - this turns out to be a historical Russian territory.. .

                    Such a “history” makes not only Stalin and Lenin sad, but also the Romanovs and Ruriks in their heads...
                  2. Flight Offline Flight
                    Flight (Von) 10 February 2024 07: 57
                    0
                    Turan - this is the view of the Slavic peoples in historical science and civilizational theories on what begins a little further east beyond the Smolensk region... From the interview it follows that the right bank is not Russian, on the left bank there are 4 regions - Ukrainian, i.e. . SVO has almost achieved its goals...

                    The question here is not who lives, but who will rule. We look at the Bulgarians - they speak Slavic, but swore allegiance to the relatives of the current Tatars from Kazan. And after that - no big deal. The Ruriks are generally Finns with haplogroup N.
                    1. boriz Offline boriz
                      boriz (boriz) 10 February 2024 10: 15
                      0
                      You need to be more careful with haplogroups.
                      Russians have haplogroup N up to 14%. Most people don’t know about this and consider themselves Russians. And the current Rurikovichs have the same position, “We are Russians...”.
                      And Netanyahu’s haplogroup is generally R1a. And what?
                      Jews have R1a about 10%. And among the Levites, it’s all 60%. Their genealogy goes through the male line. And you know who Levi’s genealogy is from...
                      1. Flight Offline Flight
                        Flight (Von) 10 February 2024 10: 43
                        +1
                        Russians have haplogroup N up to 14%. Most people don’t know about this and consider themselves Russians. And the current Rurikovichs have the same position, “We are Russians...”.
                        And Netanyahu’s haplogroup is generally R1a. And what?
                        Jews have R1a about 10%. And among the Levites, it’s all 60%.

                        What does this mean? This suggests that 14% of Russians with haplogroup N are Russified Uraloids, and Netanyahu is a Judaizing Aryan, etc., etc. That's all, let's look at the Turks and understand that the Turks who came from Altai have a lot of horseradish there, but they don't realize it. Why? Because the Semites invented a good religion...
                      2. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 10 February 2024 19: 57
                        0
                        What does religion have to do with it?
                        Great Turan is not about religion. It's about language. Do the Yakuts really have Islam? They generally have trouble with religions: ayyy, Orthodoxy, shamanism, Tengrism. But they are Turks.
                        And the Hungarians, out of some kind of fright, lean against Turan. Although the language is Finno-Ugric, given that the Finno-Ugric population (haplogroup N) is within 1%, this is a statistical error.

                        That's all, let's look at the Turks and understand that the Turks who came from Altai are nothing but horseradish,

                        What is the haplogroup?

                        Turks who came from Altai

                        ? Here are those who ruled there from 1299 to 1924. Ottomanids are exclusively R1a.
                      3. Flight Offline Flight
                        Flight (Von) 11 February 2024 14: 04
                        0
                        What does religion have to do with it?

                        Great Turan is not about religion. It's about language.

                        And who knows about

                        The peripheral states of the Diadochi, formed after the death of Alexander, did not pay attention to their eastern borders for a long time. The Seleucid Empire, a formidable country that at its height controlled virtually all of the eastern territories conquered by the Greeks, was occupied by the western frontier. This “colossus with feet of clay” fell apart quite quickly. One of its fragments was the Greco-Bactrian kingdom, located in Central Asia. A quaint country where Greek culture coexisted with local traditions.

                        Religion without language is nonsense. We remember the church and Mohammedan languages. And the Persians, eternal competitors of the West, exchanged their traditions for the covenants of the Semites.
            2. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 9 February 2024 23: 39
              -2
              Strange Guest, Zionists are not Jews. These are reminders of my commentary, the past. laughing
              1. strange guest Offline strange guest
                strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 00: 04
                +1
                Did I write somewhere about the Zionists? winked
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 14: 38
                  -1
                  Strange Guest, you wrote about the Russian Kaganate, at which Jews should be present. Why can't I remind you that Zionists are not Jews? smile
                  1. strange guest Offline strange guest
                    strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 15: 02
                    0
                    Because historically Jews were present in the Kaganate and Judaism was one of the official religions in the Kaganate.
                  2. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 17: 12
                    0
                    Strange Guest, I'm not against Jews, let it be. But there is no need for Zionists. laughing
  2. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 9 February 2024 19: 15
    +1
    Strange Guest, wash your hands, maybe this is the reason. It would be a pity if Poland suffered from your uncleanliness. laughing
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 19: 46
      +1
      And what kind of Russophobes are you harnessing? We, patriots of Russia, need to stick together hi
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 9 February 2024 23: 49
        +1
        It's time for you, "patriots" of Russia, to calm down. And stop inciting ethnic hatred. laughing
        1. strange guest Offline strange guest
          strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 00: 10
          +4
          What national discord? No discord - “All Slavs are obliged to live in one state!” I actually decided that I was a pan-Slavist.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 14: 29
            0
            Which you are conducting, as an example, in Palestine - Israel is only for Jews. laughing
            There are many similar examples in Ukraine.
            1. strange guest Offline strange guest
              strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 15: 04
              0
              In Israel, 21% of citizens are Arabs. What are you speaking about?
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 17: 21
                +1
                About rights 21% of citizens. Are they full-fledged citizens of Israel? laughing

                The Nation State Law passed in 2018 declared Israel the state of the Jewish people.
  3. RUR Offline RUR
    RUR 9 February 2024 22: 59
    -3
    Okay, okay, I’ll write another option so that everyone doesn’t lose their sidelocks in despair: The standard of living in the EU has fallen - this is a fact, some countries are experiencing recession and even deindustrialization - ordinary people in the EU are taking to the streets... EU governments will be forced to resume trade with RF... - i.e. a successful multi-move in action...
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 00: 08
      +3
      Let's wait a little longer and Europe will fall at our feet like an overripe pear. With a prayer - “Putin come, restore order.” And he will come, and we will come. And we won’t ask for a Pole’s card lol Learn in Russian - "What do you want, gentleman" Yes
  • Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (Von) 9 February 2024 12: 02
    +1
    Vladimir Putin also assured that the Kremlin has no intentions of fighting with the NATO bloc or invading the Baltic states, Finland or Poland. In his opinion, it is necessary to create a new international security architecture. In addition, he hinted at the possibility of resuming Russian gas supplies to Europe if relations are normalized.

    It is clear that while the new architecture is being built and the resumption of gas sales is being prepared, the destruction of fraternal peoples by each other must continue. The NATO bloc must realize this, because why should they bother if the owners of resources in the Russian Federation are happy to bring everything to them themselves, at an inexpensive price. You just need to remove the gasket in the form of the Svidomo elite between Europe and the Russian Federation.
    1. RUR Offline RUR
      RUR 9 February 2024 18: 08
      -1
      You write nonsense - ordinary Ukrainian people are dying at the front, and yes, it seems that some of the creative and technical elite are fighting... The reporter wrote that desertion is insignificant. There will no longer be brotherhood with such losses... and Belarus and the right-bank Ukraine did not voluntarily join the heirs of the Horde - that’s the reason... Neither Belarus nor Western Ukraine had and will never have any reunification like the Pereyaslav Rada
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 00: 01
        0
        RUR, what else can this “boo” do? smile
        1. Flight Offline Flight
          Flight (Von) 10 February 2024 11: 42
          0
          Izyafat, in Russian it’s “wu”...
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 15: 03
            0
            Thanks comrade Woo. laughing
      2. Flight Offline Flight
        Flight (Von) 10 February 2024 08: 00
        +3
        There will be no brotherhood with such losses...

        This is especially noticeable in Europe, literally in the middle of the 20th century they were hammering each other for nothing, but now? Don't spill the water.
        1. In passing Offline In passing
          In passing (Galina Rožkova) 10 February 2024 23: 34
          0
          It would be more correct to say that Europeans are being intensively “knocked together” together. There are different methods - from “Two-Speed ​​Europe” to sanctions against Orban. But the main thing, of course, is money. Common fund.
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  • vlad127490 Online vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 9 February 2024 12: 11
    +5
    Carlson - Putin is a good election campaign, for two presidents at once.
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 12: 15
      +8
      So the scheme is worked out. Before 2018, Putin-Stone, now Putin-Carlson. Why change something if it works.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 00: 12
        -3
        And your scheme is to slander a person. smile
        1. strange guest Offline strange guest
          strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 08: 47
          +2
          I don't believe in such coincidences. You believe and gasp. It's your choice - you have the right to your opinion.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 13: 39
            -1
            That's right. But I don’t trust the people of Sweden. See, we just have different faiths. You immediately get nervous. Aspirated. laughing love
            1. strange guest Offline strange guest
              strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 15: 06
              0
              And I don’t make a difference by country. I believe in Man.
              1. Flight Offline Flight
                Flight (Von) 10 February 2024 18: 40
                +2
                It smells, can you smell it? Again it was carried away with a kind of good intention leading to hell. I believe this is what the covenants meant.
        2. lord-palladore-11045 (PATE) 10 February 2024 23: 28
          0
          isofat
          Today, 00: 12
          And your scheme is to slander a person.

          - there is no need to slander a person, but in this interview Putin looked too soft, with Carlson he could have shown himself more confidently - the president after all!
    2. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 10 February 2024 08: 50
      +1
      She could be good. But the chance was not taken. Everything is drowned in empty verbosity
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 13: 55
        -1
        Dimon, do not worry. It will come to you! Even if not right away. laughing
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 9 February 2024 12: 51
    +1
    I wonder if someone will come to interview about Ukraine in another 2 years, in 6 years?
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 12: 52
      +2
      And after 6 and after 12)
  • unc-2 Offline unc-2
    unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 9 February 2024 13: 32
    +5
    The President of the Russian Federation correctly said about Lviv and other lands of western Ukraine. Only the view of this decision was from the angle of current problems. And not the time when every Soviet person could come to Lviv and other places in the Soviet Carpathian region. When all of Ukraine was soldered to the USSR. Through whose fault it all collapsed, this conversation did not touch upon. But we know that the initiator of the collapse of the USSR was the Russian elite, led by Yeltsin.
    1. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 9 February 2024 13: 53
      -4
      Quote from: unc-2
      The initiator of the collapse of the USSR was the Russian elite, led by Yeltsin.

      Yeah, of course.
      And that in March 1991 in 6 republics they even refused to hold a referendum on a “renewed federation of equal sovereign republics”, and the central government could no longer do anything about it - is Yeltsin to blame?
      1. unc-2 Offline unc-2
        unc-2 (Nikolai Malyugin) 9 February 2024 14: 53
        +8
        Oleg. Back in 1990, on June 12, a meeting of the Supreme Council of Russia was held, where the sovereignty of Russia was announced. The chairman was Boris Yeltsin. After this, the parade of sovereignties began. What we celebrate every year was the beginning of the collapse of the USSR.
        1. Nelton Offline Nelton
          Nelton (Oleg) 9 February 2024 15: 09
          -3
          Quote from: unc-2
          where Russia's sovereignty was declared.

          And in the preamble of the declaration of sovereignty it was written in black and white:

          "Declares determination to create a democratic state governed by the rule of law as part of the USSR"

          And yes, the first declarations of independence in the Baltic states went back in 1989.
          1. strange guest Offline strange guest
            strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 16: 52
            0
            How is sovereignty within the Union? Even countries that are members of the EU have sacrificed some of their sovereignty. Or did Yeltsin mean state-level sovereignty in the United States? I doubt.
        2. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 9 February 2024 19: 31
          -2
          Nikolay Malyugin, the Dnepropetrovsk clan of communists and non-party members was unable to build socialism in Ukraine. And how hard he tried. I’m talking about those who are not going to be responsible for the USSR and Ukraine, which someone also destroyed. laughing
      2. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
        Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 10 February 2024 07: 27
        +6
        the central government could not do anything? or didn't you want to?

        During the days of the State Emergency Committee, the Riga riot police restored order in Riga in a matter of hours. and not a single nationalist bastard could utter a word...

        a small police detachment could, but the central government, with a huge army of security forces, could not... well, well...

        second, could you tell me after what events the Red flag was lowered from the Kremlin? after some declarations from Lithuania and Armenia? or after gatherings in Belovezhskaya Pushcha? oh...can you remind me which three Republics were representatives there? Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia? oh...

        the fact that Gorbi is a Judas does not negate Yeltsin’s role in all this.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 14: 13
          -1
          Nikolay Volkov, but you now have the opportunity to build whatever you want in the USA - communism, socialism, a synagogue... laughing
  • Rhetorical Rita Offline Rhetorical Rita
    Rhetorical Rita (Rhetorical Rita) 9 February 2024 14: 22
    +6
    In short, we're leaving. We were disappointed...
  • Yuras Offline Yuras
    Yuras (Yuras) 9 February 2024 14: 59
    -1
    After Putin’s conversation with the journalist, there is only one question: what will the aggressive, collective, evil elite of the West do next? Really, having understood, will he extend his hand? Who has come so far in achieving her goal (this is not the limit) and probably believes that she is doing well. There is really one option, it’s like in the movie “Mars Attacks!” They also tried to come to an agreement.
    1. strange guest Offline strange guest
      strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 19: 52
      +2
      You can think and speak with an air of importance about signals to the Republicans, Trump, the audience in the United States and the American elites. But for this there are proven channels in law enforcement agencies. Signals can only be transmitted through clown journalists to the spectators at the buffet.
      1. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 10 February 2024 23: 47
        0
        This means that through trusted channels in law enforcement agencies he receives an answer that is not what he would like. Maybe this is his last attempt to come to an agreement with them. Maybe this is a game for our audience - we tried, but ... - before the final surrender. Istanbul2.0 and with a worse outcome, in fact, if you look at it in the future.
        1. strange guest Offline strange guest
          strange guest (Strange Guest) 11 February 2024 15: 28
          0
          I think yes. This is a game for the electorate. No more. Addressing those in power in rival countries through a journalist in an era of constant contacts through diplomatic, security, and business lines is a cry of despair. But I’m sure this is not the case - this is work for an internal audience, nothing more. It’s bad that this is no longer new both as an action and in content.
  • Pembo Offline Pembo
    Pembo 9 February 2024 15: 18
    0
    Dear author, as well as commentators, have you read the interview inside and out, or what? You missed the most important thing:

    I understand, you can say that it was our mistake that we intensified actions and decided to end this war with the help of weapons, as I said, started in 2014 in the Donbass

    Vladimir Vladimirovich admitted it was a mistake that he decided to end the war by force of arms.
    1. Flight Offline Flight
      Flight (Von) 9 February 2024 17: 30
      +1
      Quote from Pembo
      Dear author, as well as commentators, have you read the interview inside and out, or what? You missed the most important thing:

      I understand, you can say that it was our mistake that we intensified actions and decided to end this war with the help of weapons, as I said, started in 2014 in the Donbass

      Vladimir Vladimirovich admitted it was a mistake that he decided to end the war by force of arms.

      Eeeee? What should the relatives of the 20000 people who died, according to Prigozhin, for Bakhmut answer to this? - It happens that who is not mistaken? Next time it will work...? For now, you work on the mistakes, and we’ll get excited... and how else we’ll give birth, so that it will work out next time.
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        1. strange guest Offline strange guest
          strange guest (Strange Guest) 9 February 2024 22: 34
          -1
          Let’s build a land corridor to Germany and consider that the President has fulfilled his mission at this historical point.
          1. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
            Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 10 February 2024 07: 29
            +9
            Why do you need any land corridors somewhere if after these “cuttings” there will be no Russian men left???

            What's the point of this corridor then? so that the sons of the Abramovichs and Deripaskas, through the hands of the Jamshuds and Ravshans, supply oil and gas to Europe???

            some dubious prospect
            1. strange guest Offline strange guest
              strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 08: 51
              +4
              Leave the benefits to the Jews, and the meanings to the Anglo-Saxons! And for Russians - justice and sacredness!
            2. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
              Vox Populi (vox populi) 10 February 2024 16: 19
              +1
              Nikolay!
              Yes, finally understand, “The Strange Guest” is not just a guest, but a big guest, filled with powerful irony and sarcasm (I’m almost sure of this). winked
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      2. Vasya_33 Offline Vasya_33
        Vasya_33 9 February 2024 22: 19
        +2
        20000? dear mother...
        But how much APU did they put in then?
        and the locals?
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 9 February 2024 19: 49
      -2
      Towards the end of the interview, Putin again returned to the topic of Ukraine. “I understand, you can say that it’s our mistake, that we intensified actions and with the help of weapons decided to end this war, as I said, started in 2014 in the Donbass. But I’ll bring you back even deeper, I’ve already talked about this, you and I we were discussing this now. Then let's go back to 1991, when they promised us not to expand NATO, let's go back to 2008, when the gates to NATO were opened, let's go back to the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine, where it declared itself a neutral state. Let's go back to the fact that NATO bases and American and British bases began to appear on the territory of Ukraine, creating these threats to us. Let's go back to the fact that a coup was carried out in Ukraine in 2014. It makes no sense, right? We can roll this ball back and forth endlessly. But they stopped negotiations. A mistake? Yes "Fix it. We're ready. What else?" - Putin noted.

      It seems that everything is clear, those who can and want to say so should read why they should not do so. laughing
    3. RUR Offline RUR
      RUR 9 February 2024 20: 21
      0
      The advantage has mainly two mistakes - greedy Europe/West will never give up Russian raw materials and the fantasy of one people...
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 00: 29
        -2
        How many nations? As an example, we can start with the “people” that Zelensky represents, but are there others? smile
  • Yarik83 Offline Yarik83
    Yarik83 (J. Yarmosh 8-bit Music) 9 February 2024 19: 18
    +1
    So, stop here.. Position? The fact that Ukraine is an artificial state is not a historical fact? Is this just Putin's POSITION?!
    1. Yarik83 Offline Yarik83
      Yarik83 (J. Yarmosh 8-bit Music) 10 February 2024 10: 14
      0
      According to the author, this is a position. According to the jellyfish, this is also a position. According to history, this is a fact, not a position. Let's draw conclusions.
  • oleg Pesotsky Offline oleg Pesotsky
    oleg Pesotsky (Oleg Pesotsky) 9 February 2024 19: 44
    +10
    What a strange interview. It seems that the president is simply making excuses and not putting forward any ideas or thoughts about the current situation. He brought in Bogdan Khmelnitsky, mentioned Stalin, went over the national policy of the Bolsheviks, and complained to the West that he had been deceiving Russia for 20 years. The Japanese have an expression “keep face,” so Vladimir Vladimirovich had the face and position of the weak. Hope that God will take you out or help you. But as people say, water does not run under a lying stone. The Arabs have a wonderful thing - no matter how much you repeat halva, the halva in your mouth will not become sweeter.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 00: 44
      -3
      The fact that you realize that it already seems good to you. smile
  • Vdmx Offline Vdmx
    Vdmx (Vladimir) 9 February 2024 22: 41
    +4
    Another message to Western elites about Moscow’s readiness for negotiations. It is likely that Putin will be heard and by the end of the year active hostilities will be frozen. Well, until the end of the year, Kyiv’s task is to accumulate reserves, master new weapons, prevent the frontline from noticeably moving to the west, and perhaps by the end of summer achieve local success at the front. Moscow should expect painful attacks on the rear, sabotage, as well as surprises from Ukrainian specialists who have repeatedly proven their ability to work creatively.
    1. Beidodir Offline Beidodir
      Beidodir (Beidodir) 12 February 2024 08: 01
      0
      Why are you constantly writing all this here? You are trying to convince yourself of this. that you can get to Europe on the sly?
      Or just at work?
  • Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 10 February 2024 07: 17
    +4
    I remember in 1914 and subsequent years of WWII, the Russian army fought for Galicia, not considering this territory to be “Polish”... but the “historian”, as always, has some kind of encyclopedic “knowledge” of his own...

    Stalin took it from Romania, took it from Hungary...

    I wonder why he “took it away” from them? Isn’t it because these countries, in the Union with Hitler, came to the USSR, no? Well, no and no... a “historian” with encyclopedic “knowledge” knows better...

    further, to which Ukraine did Stalin give these lands? if the historian has forgotten, then Ukraine was formed in 1991 thanks to the actions of his idol Yeltsin...and Stalin annexed these lands to the Ukrainian SSR.

    about such little things that the Transcarpathian region, also known as Subcarpathian Rus, was part of Czechoslovakia until 1938 and was annexed to Hungary as a result of the so-called “policy of appeasement” - the “historian” again forgets... (age, whatever you want). ..

    and most importantly, the ethnic composition of this region was overwhelmingly SLAVIC! Rusyns, Ukrainians and Russians made up the overwhelming majority - about 300 thousand against the 100 thousand Hungarian population. There were about 80 thousand Jews. in addition, about 20 thousand more Czechs and Slovaks....

    but why does a “historian” need Rusyns when he can pretend for the millionth time that we are our own bourgeois and bargain...

    Okay, in the fantasies of the “historian” the “bloody Bolsheviks” laid only bonbs, but Nicholas II not only did not consider Lvov and Ternopil Polish (although again it is not clear why Polish, if they were part of Austria-Hungary), he even considered Warsaw to be territory Russian Empire...

    or is Nikolai the Bloody no longer an authority for the “historian”???
    1. Gray-haired Petsa (Peter) 10 February 2024 20: 07
      +1
      To be fair, we need to remember that Bessarabia and Western Ukraine were annexed to the USSR in 1940.
  • Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 10 February 2024 08: 01
    +1
    Stalin not only benefited Ukraine... if anyone has forgotten, he returned part of the territories grabbed by Finland (it’s not time to repent), corrected the mediocre results of the mischievous Russian-Japanese war in the form of South Sakhalin, plus the Kuril Islands, which the “historian” himself owned I’ve already tried to “trade”, well, the berry on the cake is the land of East Prussia, the city of Königsberg, shamelessly “taken away” by Stalin from Germany, so beloved by the “historian”...
  • Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 10 February 2024 08: 14
    +8
    in short: the mountain gave birth to a mouse...

    I’m not to blame for anything... it’s all Lenin and Stalin, who for some reason won the Second World War.

    but my idol Yeltsin corrected these “crimes” and destroyed the bloody “scoop”...

    so if you don’t deceive me anymore, then let’s be friends as before. and then the oligarchs complain...

    take what you want, but leave me something too, so that I can throw dust in the eyes of the dying Russian people...

    People, you have been told in plain text that WE (the system, not Yeltsin alone) destroyed the USSR so that several families would have the right to be their own in the West...what will happen to the people as a result of such actions - we don’t care if anything happens on Lenin and the Polovtsians. ..

    what else do you need to understand the entire anti-Russian essence of this system??? How long can you stay in suspended animation listening to sweet songs about jerks and breakthroughs???
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    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 10 February 2024 18: 54
      -2
      Nikolay Volkov, it is necessary to establish a monarchy; we are already tired of democracies and their elections. Then, as an example, the English monarchy contains a couple of chambers of executive directors. Why not oligarchs? I note, for life. I'm talking about monarchs. laughing

      This is a simple conclusion. The British are spreading democracy. Precisely the British. The USA, Israel... with their prosthetics, instead of a full-fledged population, an indigenous population and full-fledged languages ​​nurtured by this population, are also handicrafts of the British. Yes
      1. strange guest Offline strange guest
        strange guest (Strange Guest) 10 February 2024 21: 37
        +4
        And absolute! I’m telling you this as an honorary Slavophile.
        President-Emperor of Russia, Father of the Nation, Power of Reason and Beacon of Humanity!
        Quite an appropriate title.
        A uniform with braids made of pure gold and scattered diamonds, order stars with diamonds, eagles, more swords, to emphasize the wealth and greatness of the country. Tea will not impoverish the state.
        This is also clear.
        The issue with the nobility and the third estate .. Well, the nobility can be registered according to the Forbes list. The first ten are princes, the fifty are counts, the hundred are barons, then up to half a thousand - with the right to transfer the nobility to offspring.
        But with the third estate... it’s clear that corporal punishment is needed - so that people understand, but passports... are probably unnecessary. There's a lot to think about here...
        1. In passing Offline In passing
          In passing (Galina Rožkova) 10 February 2024 23: 58
          0
          Well, why passports? ID, also known as tax, police, medical, labor taxpayer identification card. Not individuals.
          1. strange guest Offline strange guest
            strange guest (Strange Guest) 11 February 2024 13: 29
            0
            In general, yes. ID in the form of a patch on clothing. Yes, and instead of a name, you can, and not just a passport. It is much more convenient - the names are repeated, and the ID is individual. You can wrap it in a beautiful wrapper and serve it to the electorate.
            1. In passing Offline In passing
              In passing (Galina Rožkova) 11 February 2024 16: 02
              0
              A yellow star and a camp number, there is nothing new under the sun... And the Chinese have come to this too.
        2. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 11 February 2024 12: 38
          -1
          Strange Guest, I am pleased that you appreciated my comment so much. laughing
          PS Regarding the classes, this is about the Israelis, but without a king at their head.
          1. strange guest Offline strange guest
            strange guest (Strange Guest) 11 February 2024 13: 25
            +1
            Russians only need a whip, a master and a tsar

            said Alexander III. Will you classify him as a Jew too? It seems that he was the greatest lover of everything Russian from the Romanovs. This is first of all. And secondly - be friends with logic - where there is a master and a whip, there must be slaves.
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 11 February 2024 20: 40
              -1
              Strange Guest, you have problems with logic. A whip and its owner can be, for example, in a stable. Or in other places where there are no slaves.

              And further. The phrases “It seems” don’t work, do you understand what I mean? laughing

              Quote: Strange Guest
              It seems that he was the greatest lover of everything Russian from the Romanovs.
              1. strange guest Offline strange guest
                strange guest (Strange Guest) 11 February 2024 20: 47
                +1
                A whip and its owner can be, for example, in a stable

                Well, if you're ready to be in the bullpen...
              2. strange guest Offline strange guest
                strange guest (Strange Guest) 11 February 2024 20: 49
                +1
                I can’t say with 100% certainty - I didn’t know him personally. The data is only from historical sources - therefore “it seems to be”. I don’t know, maybe you have a different attitude towards historical references.
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 11 February 2024 21: 22
                  -1
                  And I'm talking about logic, not about references. Well, about the stall and stables, where do you prefer? So to speak, in unison with your remarks. laughing
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  • Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (Von) 10 February 2024 08: 15
    +2
    Why did he go into history? Everyone knows that history is written by the winners, but who won? All that comes to mind is the Soviet past.
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 10 February 2024 08: 37
    +4
    result: all old theses.
    We were deceived, we are good, but they don’t believe us...
  • Serj Iff Offline Serj Iff
    Serj Iff (Serj Iff) 10 February 2024 09: 01
    +8
    Another cry from Yaroslavna. In essence, he turns to the West and says that the West has repeatedly deceived him. Well? He really thinks that they will start tearing out their hair and apologizing. Will they invite us to NATO and recognize us as equals? Nonsense! And even hints about the resumption of gas and oil supplies to Europe (at a discount, of course) will not interest them, especially the United States. The historical role of Russia is that of an independent state. Albeit alone, albeit in isolation, but we can live independently. It won’t work any other way, the only other way is to give up. This must be accepted, especially “our elite” must get used to it. Develop yourself and then everything will work out. Only the strong are respected, not beggars.
  • viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 10 February 2024 09: 11
    +2
    We don't refuse...

    - I wonder who WE are?
    1. Yarik83 Offline Yarik83
      Yarik83 (J. Yarmosh 8-bit Music) 10 February 2024 10: 23
      -3
      We. These are the Russian people. Any problems, citizen?
      1. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
        viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 10 February 2024 10: 52
        +1
        “We” are not you alone, citizen!
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  • prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 10 February 2024 12: 08
    +5
    How President Putin sees the possible demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine

    He can't see anymore.
    He sleeps and sees how to come to an agreement with the West.
    This is the meaning and content of the entire interview.
    1. Vdmx Offline Vdmx
      Vdmx (Vladimir) 10 February 2024 17: 53
      +1
      And what options does it have, the Russian Armed Forces cannot exit the war by defeating the enemy, the war has taken on a positional character of attrition, time is not on the side of the Russian Federation, the only way out for Moscow is to agree with the West to at least freeze the conflict and leave its solution to future generations .
      1. In passing Offline In passing
        In passing (Galina Rožkova) 11 February 2024 00: 04
        +1
        Yes, because he doesn’t want to fight, he himself admitted that the military decision was wrong. The freeze will lead to the emergence in this territory of an enemy thirsting for revenge, inspired, moreover, by the support of the “collective West”, thirsting for our subjugation. Yeah, and all this for future generations...
        1. Vdmx Offline Vdmx
          Vdmx (Vladimir) 11 February 2024 17: 25
          -2
          there are no other options
          1. Beidodir Offline Beidodir
            Beidodir (Beidodir) 12 February 2024 08: 00
            0
            There are plenty of other options.
  • Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (Von) 11 February 2024 13: 21
    +2
    How President Putin sees the possible demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine

    I would say vaguely. He sees it vaguely, judging by the excuses.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 11 February 2024 21: 11
      -1
      Read it again. Or listen. smile
      1. Flight Offline Flight
        Flight (Von) 13 February 2024 01: 45
        +2
        If Monsieur Peskov is silent, then there remains hope for Carlson. He will sort everything out according to what He wants.
  • valery lebedev Offline valery lebedev
    valery lebedev (Valery Lebedev) 17 February 2024 10: 50
    0
    He has already seen two Minsks and one Istanbul. It's time to order glasses.