Why did the Kyiv regime need to shoot down an Il-76 with Ukrainian prisoners of war?

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On January 24, 2024, Ukrainian Nazis committed their next war crime. Quite deliberately, they shot down a Russian Il-76 military transport aircraft in the sky over the Belgorod region, on board which were prisoners of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, intended to be exchanged for our military personnel. Everyone, including the pilots and accompanying persons, alas, died. Why was this seemingly illogical crime committed?

Today's tragedy in the skies over the Belgorod region has several dimensions at once - military and political, internal Ukrainian and at the same time internal Russian. Let's look at them in more detail.



Echo of Boeing


The fact that the plane with Ukrainian prisoners of war, intended for exchange and about to return home, was shot down by the Ukrainian Armed Forces quite deliberately was officially stated in the report of the Russian Ministry of Defense:

The plane was shot down by the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the area of ​​Liptsy, Kharkov Region, using an anti-aircraft missile system. The radar equipment of the Russian Aerospace Forces observed the launch of two Ukrainian missiles.

On board the plane were six crew members, 65 Ukrainian military personnel for the exchange and three Russian military personnel accompanying them. The crew and all passengers of the plane were killed. The Ukrainian leadership knew very well that, according to established practice, today Ukrainian military personnel would be transported by military transport aircraft to the Belgorod airfield for exchange.

According to the previously reached agreement, this event was to take place in the afternoon at the Kolotilovka checkpoint on the Russian-Ukrainian border. And, nevertheless, the Nazi Kiev regime took this step, pursuing the goal of blaming Russia for the destruction of the Ukrainian military.

Moreover, there could have been much more casualties, since it soon became known that there were two military transport planes with Ukrainian prisoners of war, but the second Il-76 changed course in time and survived. But why did the Kyiv regime need to destroy its own military personnel, who, given the shortage of trained personnel, could return to duty again?

The answer to this question can be found in the events of 10 years ago, when in the skies over the DPR, Ukrainian Nazis shot down a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER, which was performing scheduled flight MH17. All passengers and crew members on board died, and the charges fell on the then commanders of the Donbass militia - Igor Girkin (“Strelkov”), Sergei Dubinsky (“Bad Soldier”) and Leonid Kharchenko.

Meanwhile, the only beneficiary of this terrible tragedy was the Kyiv regime, since the attention of the agitated international community was immediately drawn to the unrecognized Republics, and the militia was forced to stop the then successful offensive towards Mariupol and further to the Crimea. The Ukrainian Nazis received eight whole years to prepare for the war with Russia, and the capture of Mariupol subsequently cost the Russian Armed Forces and the LDPR a lot of blood.

The murder of its own military personnel, who were supposed to return home to Ukraine, has, first of all, internal political significance for Kyiv. On the one hand, there are conditional “hawks” and “doves” fighting among themselves, who want, respectively, the continuation of the war here and now or its temporary freezing. The destruction of the Il-76 in the skies over the Belgorod region works for the “hawks”. On the other hand, this terrorist attack may be an echo of the struggle between the fictitious clans of Zelensky and Zaluzhny.

Thus, the position of President Zelensky has greatly weakened, but his main rival from the “army” in the person of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Zaluzhny, is not doing well against the backdrop of the failure of the counteroffensive. The fact that a Russian military transport plane carrying prisoners of war for exchange was shot down by Ukrainian militants from the border Kharkov region could be the nail in the political coffin of Zaluzhny and his assistant Budanov. The latter, who, they say, is already trying on the post of prime minister, as the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, could not help but know that there were Ukrainians on board the Il-76.

It never happened


The tragedy that occurred today will also have consequences within Russia. Unfortunately, this is far from the first air ambush in which our military aircraft have been caught.

Thus, on May 13, 2023, an entire air group of four aircraft died in the skies over the border Bryansk region - two Mi-8 helicopters, a Su-34 fighter-bomber and a Su-35 fighter. You can also recall strange incidents with Il-20 and A-50U reconnaissance aircraft over the Sea of ​​Azov and other strange aircraft accidents. Someone should already begin to answer for the fact that our planes are falling in the skies over Russian regions, but who exactly?

The head of the Duma Defense Committee, Andrei Kartapolov, at a plenary meeting of the State Duma, announced what allegedly shot down the Russian military transport plane:

The Il-76 plane was shot down by three missiles from either a Patriot or a German-made IRIS-T anti-aircraft missile system, experts will figure it out.

If anything, the firing range from IRIS-T is a maximum of 40 km, from Patriot - 80 km. The settlement of Liptsy, where the launch took place, is located in close proximity to the border of the Belgorod region. Excuse me, but where did our intelligence look then? And when, damn it, will the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces move on from talking about creating a “sanitary zone” in the Ukrainian border area to real action?
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  1. 0
    24 January 2024 17: 52
    Excuse me, but where did our intelligence look then?

    Do any of our people have names and identities, and not only in intelligence?
    1. +1
      25 January 2024 17: 45
      And it's like climbing a TV tower. The higher, the more dangerous... And insurance will not help...
  2. +10
    24 January 2024 17: 56
    The plane was shot down from the complex of our respected partners. And our guarantor will do everything possible for them. And the death of Russian guys cannot be compared with the importance of business interests. Therefore, our planes will continue to be shot down over our territory. And the Ukrainian ones will calmly fly over the Ukrainian one. How we still don’t hit bridges.
    1. 0
      24 January 2024 18: 27
      Until we put “your respected partners” in the “cancer” position, they will have us! Well, a hydrant is just a hydrant - what do you understand about naval humor!
    2. +4
      25 January 2024 21: 26
      NATO de facto (without loud statements) satisfied the request of the Ukrainian leadership to close the skies to Russian aviation. But at first they were afraid to supply even light small arms.
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    1. +4
      25 January 2024 15: 00
      Intelligence was engaged in "recruiting" the cat "Twix". They say that Mizulina suggested erecting a monument to him. What kind of intelligence can there be when 300000 idiots are in all seriousness?
      We collected signatures for a petition against the conductor and in favor of the cat! And now the plane
      in which only 8 “our” people died. As for “their” 50 people, almost
      All of them have suspiciously “Russian” surnames. I wonder if they will now collect signatures for a petition against Zelensky?
  4. +1
    24 January 2024 17: 58
    The Ukrainians seem to be able to move SAM systems anywhere to the front, fire and have no retribution from Russian forces. In this case, the Russians claim to have tracked the missiles yet nothing from the Russians about at least destroying the launchers that they know the location of.
  5. +10
    24 January 2024 18: 18
    During the war, even over one’s own territory, the plane had to be covered, and not to detect the launch of missiles and not to raise an information wave.
    In war as in war.
    1. +1
      25 January 2024 15: 06
      There is no need to cover for anyone. Enemies with weapons in war must be destroyed, and by all
      means and without any conditions. "If the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed." It needs to be meaner
      act according to the Western model! And don’t pretend to be a “moral person.”
    2. +1
      26 January 2024 15: 43
      After everything that happened, we need not to pretend to be a victim, but to give such a powerful and convincing answer, after which our enemies will be afraid to even think about repeating something like that again.
  6. +14
    24 January 2024 18: 28
    Who will someday bear responsibility for the disgrace that is happening in our Aerospace Forces, when regularly, using the same method, the Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot down aircraft of the Russian Armed Forces in flights. In the Black Sea Navy, iconic ships are constantly sunk. On board the Il-76, no matter who it was transporting, the main ones were allowed to be destroyed when they recently lost a custom A-50 using the same method.
    1. +3
      24 January 2024 18: 41
      When God brought order to the earth, aviation was in the air! We have enough “Chubais” both in aviation and in the navy, and in general, with such defective managers, we have no shortage anywhere, so we have what we have!
    2. 0
      26 January 2024 15: 46
      As long as we have aerospace forces under the command of tank and ground generals, this will happen again and again.
  7. 0
    24 January 2024 18: 48
    I'm afraid that the closer we get to the elections, there will be more and more such incidents...
  8. +3
    24 January 2024 19: 07
    Who is in charge of our air defense? Amateurs or mediocrities, or maybe hidden enemies? Or is there no air defense in this direction? Not at all? Earlier, before the start of the SVO, they wrote, don’t worry, everything is fine with the army for 41 years and will not happen again.
  9. -3
    24 January 2024 21: 01
    I read the comments. The switchmen from the Ukrainian TsIPSO are pushing with all their might, instead of the article they are discussing Russia. They give each other pluses. They push so hard that their trousers are full. Funny and stupid looking.
    1. +11
      24 January 2024 21: 18
      Those who think Kyiv is guilty look stupid, but we have no guilty ones; in war you either kill or they will kill you. I don’t like it when our people die, and in order for fewer of them to die, we need to write the truth. There is a saying “a helpful person is worse than a traitor”; fools are those who think that everything is fine with us, and those who died will be included in the statistical error of those killed in the war. For 2 years now they have been striking Belgorod, and a large BTA plane is flying there without cover, what brilliant strategist planned this? From Voronezh to Belgorod 200 km, or 4 hours by bus.
      1. +7
        25 January 2024 05: 24
        What does Voronezh have to do with it? Transported from the air. Chkalovsky is in the Moscow region, which is about 700 km. And we will not have anyone to blame. Has anyone answered for the May ambush near Bryansk, for the Republic of Kazakhstan "Moscow", for the effective attacks on the Black Sea Fleet bases in Crimea? For, to put it mildly, “miscalculations,” our command does not shoot.
        1. -1
          25 January 2024 17: 19
          Voronezh has nothing to do with it, it has nothing to do with brains. A plane from the Moscow region, just like a plane from any airfield, could land both at the Voronezh air base and at the factory airfield of the Voronezh aircraft plant, and from there by bus 200 km to Belgorod. Now I hope it’s clear?
    2. -10
      24 January 2024 22: 53
      there are a lot of waiting people here... comrades from the Far East are insistently demanding that everyone be bombed... they all don’t care that the crests will take it out on the peaceful people in the borderland! they write their comments on the push pretending to be experts... the head is not just for eating!
      1. +3
        25 January 2024 03: 03
        The head is not just for eating!

        Various measures have long been invented to protect the local population, but who is carrying them out? Comrades from Moscow? They don’t care at all, they only eat caviar from the Far East and they don’t care about the civilian population.
    3. +1
      25 January 2024 17: 47
      Well, voice a couple of thoughts. Smart, of course.
  10. +5
    24 January 2024 21: 08
    All this is the author’s idle speculation. The plane was shot down by Ukrainian air defense only because it was a Russian plane. What he was transporting is unknown and uninteresting to the battery commander. The battalion commander, represented by the head of the combat crew, just pressed the button when he saw the mark on the monitor screen. Everything.
    1. -1
      25 January 2024 06: 51
      All this is the author’s idle speculation. The plane was shot down by Ukrainian air defense only because it was a Russian plane

      Are you, a “Russian officer,” arguing with the official version of the Ministry of Defense?

      What he was transporting is unknown and uninteresting to the battery commander. The battalion commander, represented by the head of the combat crew, just pressed the button when he saw a mark on the monitor screen. Everything.

      Yeah, it was the battalion commander who decided to drag the Patriot under the hood. border?

      1. 0
        25 January 2024 21: 44
        it’s like peas are hitting the wall, everyone is to blame for him... the “guarantor”, the “fireman”, the fireman and even the milkmaid and the shepherd... once again: only narrow-minded people demand that everyone be bombed and destroyed, we live in the border region and I don’t care , what kind of screwdriver will land on the heads of my family...
        1. 0
          26 January 2024 12: 47
          Quote from: serivolkf1
          everyone is to blame for him... the “guarantor”, the “fireman”, the fireman and even the milkmaid and shepherd

          If this is addressed to me, then I hope you can provide links to my posts with such content
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    2. +2
      25 January 2024 09: 25
      There may well be a purely Bandera option: to hell with them, with prisoners of war, but we will shoot down two ILs and kill two dozen Russian military personnel. And we Bandera patriots don’t care about war crimes. It’s good that the second plane hasn’t been shot down yet. So, the command of the air defense missile system division knew everything and hit Svidomo on their own.
  11. +3
    24 January 2024 21: 26
    The strangest thing is that the crests had only one Patriot left. (a total of THREE were delivered - one from the States, two from Germany. The President spoke about the destruction of one last year, the second was destroyed a month and a half ago - a statement from the Ministry of Defense). They said that the latter was covering Kyiv. And they, it turns out, are dragging it along the entire LBS line - from Kerch to Kharkov via Kyiv.
    You can’t get it from Liptsov from IRISa. Well, they didn’t pull up the complex (launcher, radar and control vehicle) directly to our trenches. And they stood and waited. When there drones do not leave the space. They also left. It doesn't happen that way. So - the last Patriot.
    What for? Who will understand the Nazis...they thought that a huge plane and a trained enemy crew was worth more than fifty of their fighters who surrendered.
    1. +3
      24 January 2024 21: 55
      who knows exactly how many patriots have been delivered? no one has yet canceled military secrets.
      I wouldn’t be surprised if the tiao is already standing there at the ready.

      I agree with you about the huge plane, I just want to write about it.
      1. +1
        24 January 2024 23: 48
        The States will not disarm for the sake of Ukraine. Since 1982, they have supplied only 31 complexes to their troops.
        I actually doubted that they would give even one. Still 9 billion bucks...
      2. 0
        26 January 2024 15: 58
        It seems that our reconnaissance again missed this enemy attack, otherwise how could they absolutely unnoticeably move their air defense system and “suddenly” destroy our Il-76 from it, or did we naively hope until the last moment that they would not do this???
    2. RUR
      +1
      24 January 2024 22: 35
      one thing the President also said in

      - adjective - dear, you forgot to put it in front of the word President... you are violating eastern traditions and etiquette...
      1. 0
        25 January 2024 19: 25
        May Allah protect his gray hair.
    3. +2
      24 January 2024 22: 36
      The strangest thing is that the crests had only one Patriot left. (THREE were delivered in total - one from the States, two from Germany.

      - and who told you this, or did you see that the NATO fascists handed over three petrites to the fascists from Ukraine? There were a lot of them there, as they wrote in the Western press, at least eight.
      1. 0
        24 January 2024 23: 44
        The USA itself, a country with a huge territory, has only 31 complexes. Did they give a quarter of their air defense/missile defense to the Ukrainians? I do not believe.
        And with the cost of the complex being $9 billion... 9×8=$72 billion. Fairy tales.
      2. 0
        26 January 2024 12: 51
        Quote from Elena123
        There were a lot of them there, as they wrote in the Western press, at least eight

        Yes, it’s crazy how many! This amount is not enough even to reliably cover a million-plus city like Kyiv.
    4. 0
      26 January 2024 09: 25
      Not three launchers were supplied, but three anti-aircraft batteries. And these are at least a dozen launchers. At the same time, some have already managed to undergo recovery.
      1. 0
        26 January 2024 12: 57
        Actually, 2 batteries and 2 launchers were supplied. And it is unknown how many are now combat ready.
        1. 0
          27 January 2024 07: 02
          Eh, not even a complex?
  12. +2
    24 January 2024 22: 23
    that it was a Russian plane

    - the reason is simple.

    ...and because it's big. and who is there is not important to them in this case. an important opportunity turned up. and for them tse peremoga.
    the cruiser is large, the bridge is large, the BDK is large... A-50s are the same 76s. more noise in their chats. (by the way, Wikipedia has already noted this event). and more outrage in our media.
    1. +1
      24 January 2024 23: 08
      I remember during the NVP lesson they took us on an excursion to the airfield.
      and about the 76th officer (guide) he said: of course, the enemy will be tempted to shoot down such a big bird, but it’s not so easy to shoot him down. What did he mean - heat traps, a cannon in the tail (already archaic)? but when, already in the army, I had to fly overseas in such a thing... (no, not across the river. I wasn’t there.) abroad, his words somehow warmed my soul.

      Now I understand - his words are simply a mischief (as at all times).
      It’s just that it’s high time not only to evaluate the enemy, but also to overestimate...
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  14. +3
    24 January 2024 23: 19
    in the Kremlin, one figure continues to chew a well-known substance for the hundredth time, it’s clear that the deaths of our guys are still few for him, and the Kyiv Nazi ghouls continue to live well and host all sorts of European trash
  15. -6
    24 January 2024 23: 20
    The investigation into Malaysian Boeing recently ended. In accordance with international practice, it was carried out by the manufacturer of the aircraft, the company that owned it, the country where the incident occurred, and the countries whose citizens were on board.
    The perpetrators have been named and the investigation has been completed. If you have any facts that have not been found in 10 years, where were you before?
  16. +2
    25 January 2024 00: 06
    If you remember the Bryansk air incident, and Prigozhin’s hint, and how all the media instantly fell silent in discussions... Then everything becomes clear there...
    In the meantime, everywhere in the articles they didn’t “agreed” about this incident - that is, they clearly defined the time, the site, and the corridor for transport with prisoners, but “planned”, that is, we’ll give them a lift and agree on the location...
    And the anti-aircraft gunner simply saw a mark on the radar and pressed the button...
  17. +2
    25 January 2024 00: 12
    ..And when, damn it, will the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces move on from talking about creating a “sanitary zone” in the Ukrainian borderland to real action?

    Yes, indeed, only terms that come to mind that only vaguely resemble the expression from the above quote.
    The enemy is not asleep, and the meetings of the UN Security Council, with all the understanding of their significance for legal casuistry, will not help solve the problem of border territories am
  18. 0
    25 January 2024 02: 05
    Perhaps they were shot down not even by Ukrainians, but by Americans. The devil knows who the air defense operators are. But if it’s the Americans, then they let their Ukrainians go to waste
  19. -5
    25 January 2024 06: 16
    They write that they shot down a wandering air defense system, which operates autonomously, moving along the forehead and shooting down everything that flies on the other side.
    Also, there was no clear official answer from the Russian Federation as to whether this flight, its time and place was agreed upon with Kiev, which allows Ukraine to accuse the Russian Federation of non-compliance with safety standards for prisoners. In this case, upon seeing such a fat target, the air defense crew naturally destroyed it.
  20. +4
    25 January 2024 06: 52
    Quote: AC130 Ganship
    The investigation into Malaysian Boeing recently ended. In accordance with international practice, it was carried out by the manufacturer of the aircraft, the company that owned it, the country where the incident occurred, and the countries whose citizens were on board.
    The perpetrators have been named and the investigation has been completed. If you have any facts that have not been found in 10 years, where were you before?

    Is this humor with a liberal flavor?
  21. +4
    25 January 2024 06: 53
    Quote: Vdmx
    They write that they shot down a wandering air defense system, which operates autonomously, moving along the forehead and shooting down everything that flies on the other side.

    Wandering along the Patriot borders are strong!

    Also, there was no clear official answer from the Russian Federation as to whether this flight, its time and place was agreed upon with Kiev, which allows Ukraine to accuse the Russian Federation of non-compliance with safety standards for prisoners. In this case, upon seeing such a fat target, the air defense crew naturally destroyed it.

    Should Russia coordinate flights over Russian territory with Ukraine?

    which allows Ukraine to accuse the Russian Federation of non-compliance with security standards for prisoners

    Bravo!
    1. -1
      25 January 2024 10: 43
      I hope you’re not a child, but basic things have to be explained. It was this kind of autonomous Petriot in moving and choosing a target that shot down two electronic warfare helicopters, an attack aircraft and a fighter near Belgorod a year ago within half an hour. The lesson did not go well, why coordinate with Kiev the landing of a huge IL 76 40 km from the front line, this is the territory of the Russian Federation, the result is logical.
      In conditions of air defense shortage, Kyiv came up with this effective tactic. For example, such a Petriot rides under the awning of a truck in probable areas, receives data from external sources about the air situation, can stand in the area waiting for a probable target for several days, the Russian Aerospace Forces often work according to a template, as soon as the target is in the affected area, the awning is removed for a minute radar launch, rocket launch, wind down. And an inconspicuous truck rushes further across the expanses of Ukraine))
      1. 0
        26 January 2024 13: 02
        Are you sure you are talking about the Patriot PAC-3 air defense system? Have you confused it with "Strela"/"Needle"? And especially not the BUK air defense system
  22. 0
    25 January 2024 08: 25
    This step by Ukraine was aimed at canceling or complicating the exchange of prisoners of war. I read the comments. People are understandably upset about what happened. But everyone should give advice. At least to clear their conscience. But imagine, everything happened as we wanted. And here Criticism alone won't help. You'll have to think about it. The worst thing is to live at the expense of other thoughts. Everyone is born to express their thoughts.
  23. +5
    25 January 2024 09: 28
    Many questions arise for our generals, why are prisoners being dragged to Moscow, and then taken by plane to the combat area? And the air defense, it wasn’t shot down with a stinger, it reminds me of Trishkin’s caftan, they patched up the hole! fool
    1. 0
      26 January 2024 16: 11
      It follows from this that we do not yet have complete control in the sky, even over our border territories; from this we need to draw urgent conclusions and correct the situation.
  24. -1
    25 January 2024 09: 44
    In what cases are prisoners exchanged? In cases of concluding a truce, this is if adequate conditions have been created for this (involvement of the Red Cross and other peacekeeping organizations). Where were all these organizations? Who interacts with them? If they are not involved, then who authorized the exchange? Abramovich?
  25. +1
    25 January 2024 09: 49
    Shot down by the Nazis... framed by stupid people and accomplices...
  26. 0
    25 January 2024 10: 34
    ...And when, damn it, will the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces move on from talking about creating a “sanitary zone” in the Ukrainian borderland to real action?

    What does the General Staff have to do with it? The question is completely inappropriate... General Staff is only a performer. And the fact that they “missed” the launch of missiles at the plane is his fault, the General Staff.
  27. -2
    25 January 2024 11: 16
    If you look at similar incidents in the past, then the same fog hangs over yesterday’s. The Russian authorities and media unanimously assert that Ukraine knew that it was their compatriots who were on this plane, and that they were killed by their own people deliberately, i.e. the enemy is a priori assigned a villainous intention. Is it so? The Russian media does not provide us with arguments from the other side. You can and should be a patriot, but it would still be nice to know and understand what and how really happened. There is the same official fog with the recently shot down reconnaissance planes as with the almost destroyed Black Fleet. Is it possible that the plane crashed for technical reasons?
  28. 0
    25 January 2024 11: 17
    In principle, the Ukrainian Armed Forces could use “wandering” complex Buk-m1 in the presence of missiles...
    1. -1
      26 January 2024 16: 13
      The Buk-M1 is clearly not capable of hitting targets at a distance of 180 km.
      1. -1
        27 January 2024 08: 54
        Media:

        The place where the plane crashed is located about 50 kilometers from the Ukrainian border. This potentially allows Ukraine to use some medium-range anti-aircraft missile systems.
  29. -1
    25 January 2024 11: 45
    The UK punished Zelensky (and us at the same time) for trying to start negotiations.
    In case anyone didn’t notice, in Davos Ermak first said that the Zelensky administration would never negotiate with Russia. Almost immediately after this, Zelensky himself announced that he needed mediators to start negotiations.

    WASHINGTON, January 20 - RIA Novosti. Vladimir Zelensky asked for peace talks at the economic forum in Davos, but warmongers in Washington are desperate to get new funding to continue the conflict in Ukraine, said US Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene on social media.

    "Zelensky is in Switzerland asking for peace talks, and warmongers in Washington are desperately trying to fund continued hostilities in Ukraine with $60 billion. This is stupid," she wrote.

    Moreover, in the United States, only the Democratic proteges of the military-industrial complex are strictly insisting on continuing the war.
    Officials call on Zelensky to negotiate and directly say that the money has run out for him.
    And without help from the United States, in the near future he will not be able to pay pensions and salaries to state employees and the state apparatus. He has no choice.
    For Zelensky, this provocation was a complete surprise. This can be seen from the reaction of their media. Helpless babbling and throwing in different directions.
    Zelensky forbade congratulating himself on his birthday (today is his) and ordered an investigation into the situation.
    This significant exchange of prisoners of war should have given him the positive news story he was hoping for.
    The World Bank is now the only beneficiary of the tragedy. In Ukraine, she feels almost like a complete mistress. The air defense missile systems' crews are probably foreign. If there are Ukrainians, they are most likely under the control of the WB. They have no problem taking control of the air defense system and firing a shot. And then leave the Ukrainians to sort out the situation.
    This is nothing but losses for Zelensky. Our people have already begun to promote the topic of dehumanizing his junta and emphasizing that the regime is absolutely incapable of negotiating.
    The downed plane had already taken part in such exchanges. Negotiations to coordinate the delivery of prisoners were probably recorded. Tomorrow our people at the UN will lay out everything.
    If there was any possibility of blaming the situation on Russia, the United States would have done it long ago. But, as in the case of Boeing, they remained silent.
    And all this at a time when the United States and the EU are making frantic attempts to provide assistance to Ukraine.
    Ukraine will be drowned in negativity.
    1. +1
      25 January 2024 12: 59
      That is, who benefits from drowning Ukraine in negativity - he shot it down? Do I understand you correctly? Is that what you mean?
      1. -1
        25 January 2024 14: 25
        The World Bank is now the only beneficiary of the tragedy.

        It seems clearly written.

        If there was any possibility of blaming the situation on Russia, the United States would have done it long ago. But, as in the case of Boeing, they remained silent.

        It is too.
      2. -1
        25 January 2024 14: 42
        The WB is the only one of the three main actors that is interested in the continuation of the war from a geopolitical point of view.
        She needs
        -weaken the USA and prevent them from dealing with Southeast Asia,
        -to weaken Russia as much as possible,
        -bring Europe into conflict,
        -stay afloat as a first-level power. Why do the globalist elites of the World Bank need to either destroy the EU and Germany, or seize control of the United States (even at the cost of a civil war). Without this, WB will continue to fall in the rankings. She dropped out of the greats a long time ago; from the first level she is already failing.
        Although even in the event of a US takeover, the fate of the World Bank will also not be of interest to the elite. "No violinist needed." The elites will have a new house. This is not the first time this has happened. Like during the “Glorious Revolution” at the end of the 17th century, when the financial elites “moved” from Holland to the World Bank.
        And media actions around events are secondary. No one would brew something like this for this reason. But it is simply unacceptable to stupidly miss the necessary actions in the media and political sphere.
        1. +1
          25 January 2024 19: 22
          And for all this, Britain needs to drown Ukraine in negativity in the eyes of the whole world? This is an interesting move.
          1. -1
            26 January 2024 10: 55
            Ours will drown, naturally. Or do you think that we should not do this in the current situation?
            And the WB needs to continue the war. Did I not write clearly?
            1. +1
              26 January 2024 15: 09
              It’s good that MI6 cannot calculate its actions one step ahead Yes
              One thing is unclear - what is the benefit of this provocation for Britain? Will it be easier for her to convince Western allies to help Ukraine and Ukrainian fighters to fight through such actions?
              Or is Britain against Ukraine on the side of Russia? And is he trying to do everything to discredit the Kyiv junta in the eyes of the world community and his own armed forces?
              1. 0
                26 January 2024 21: 00
                Or is Britain against Ukraine on the side of Russia?

                Britain needs a continuation of the war in Ukraine.
                WB against Russia, USA, EU. Ukraine - tools, consumables. She doesn't take it into account at all. Until the last, Ukrainians and Ukrainian women.
                I described the interests of the World Bank a little higher.

                She needs

                etc.
                Ukraine will not dare point a finger at the World Bank. For her, this is a complete public recognition of non-subjectivity or a demonstration of the loss of controllability at the level of both the state and the army.
                They will begin to completely wipe their feet on it. She will somehow try to clear it up herself.
                But our people accused her of a complete lack of subjectivity already on the day of the loss of Il76.
  30. +1
    25 January 2024 12: 04
    If the radar of the Russian troops detected the launch of two Ukrainian missiles, then why were they not shot down?
  31. +3
    25 January 2024 12: 28
    I think it’s already obvious to everyone that it’s time to put an end to the leaders of the Bandera regime, otherwise nothing will end, but this is obvious, just not for our main leaders, who are again showing dense naivety and criminal inaction towards the leaders, as they have been doing for 9 years vegetation, protecting themselves with newly adopted laws that this and that are not allowed.... Everything that I wrote earlier, that the Bandera regime will do anything and its crimes will be more and more insidious and merciless on an increasing scale, are coming true and it will only get worse , up to the explosion of a nuclear power plant. Look at Israel, I’m not talking about the carpet bombing of Gaza, but about the elimination of senior Hamas leaders, as a result of which the resistance degrades and ultimately loses. Sooner or later, of course, our guys will come up with the idea and start eliminating the generators of terrorism, but before this epiphany, many thousands of our guys will die until it gets to one place....
    1. +1
      25 January 2024 13: 01
      Well, Israel doesn’t particularly take care of its hostages either. A bad example of soulless Israel for spiritual Russia.
  32. GN
    0
    25 January 2024 13: 01
    For what? Because they can! And they know that nothing will happen to them for this!! Nothing!! Thanks to the main one! Sorry please, just different words are even worse! This is exactly what they do to opponents who are weak and flawed in the geopolitical game!! But someone is having Tatyana’s day. And we are flying to Kaliningrad for a walk!! This is how they live in a parallel reality!!
    1. 0
      25 January 2024 20: 06
      And how did we go for a walk?
      1. -1
        27 January 2024 07: 26
        85 percent.
  33. +2
    25 January 2024 13: 18
    Quote: Vdmx
    I hope you’re not a child, but basic things have to be explained. It was this kind of autonomous Petriot in moving and choosing a target that shot down two electronic warfare helicopters, an attack aircraft and a fighter near Belgorod a year ago within half an hour. The lesson did not go well, why coordinate with Kiev the landing of a huge IL 76 40 km from the front line, this is the territory of the Russian Federation, the result is logical.
    In conditions of air defense shortage, Kyiv came up with this effective tactic. For example, such a Petriot rides under the awning of a truck in probable areas, receives data from external sources about the air situation, can stand in the area waiting for a probable target for several days, the Russian Aerospace Forces often work according to a template, as soon as the target is in the affected area, the awning is removed for a minute radar launch, rocket launch, wind down. And an inconspicuous truck rushes further across the expanses of Ukraine))

    Yeah. The autonomy of the movement of the air defense system does not mean that it is accidentally located in the border area of ​​the Bryansk and Belogorod regions. Don't tell us tales

  34. +2
    25 January 2024 20: 02
    Excuse me, but where did our intelligence look then? I think the VKS should have covered the flight.
    1. +1
      26 January 2024 19: 15
      What kind of intelligence is there?
      take off your glasses.
      Can we also give you “Armata”?
      We've seen enough parades with biathlons...
  35. 0
    25 January 2024 21: 35
    No one prohibited the use of trains and trucks to transport prisoners of war. But the Russian generals preferred to drag a healthy bandura close to the front. Observing the intelligence of the generals, I am confident that I could replace most of them after a year of training.
    1. 0
      26 January 2024 16: 18
      As long as we have aerospace forces under the command of tank and ground generals, this will happen again and again.
  36. +1
    25 January 2024 22: 00
    Quote: Strange guest
    The States will not disarm for the sake of Ukraine. Since 1982, they have supplied only 31 complexes to their troops.
    I actually doubted that they would give even one. Still 9 billion bucks...

    Is Wikipedia difficult to look up?

    Germany 30 M902 Patriot PAC-3 as of 2022
    Greece 36 M901 Patriot PAC-2 as of 2022
    Israel 4 Patriot PAC-2 batteries as of 2022
    Jordan 40 PU PAC-2 for 2010
    Spain 18 M901 Patriot PAC-2 as of 2022
    Flag of Qatar Qatar 10 complexes for 2014
    Republic of Korea 48 M902 Patriot PAC-3 CRI as of 2022
    Kuwait 35 M902 Patriot PAC-3 as of 2022
    Netherlands 32 PU for 2010
    UAE unknown number of PAC-3 as of 2022
    Romania 4 MIM-104E/F Patriot PAC-2 GEM-T/PAC-3 batteries as of 2022
    Saudi Arabia 108 M902 Patriot PAC-3 as of 2022
    USA 1106 PU
    Republic of China (Taiwan) over 72 M902 Patriot PAC-3 as of 2022
    Sweden 3 M903 Patriot PAC-3 MSE batteries as of 2022
    Ukraine 2 batteries for April 2023[128], in total 3 Patriot PAC-3 MSE batteries should be transferred from the USA and Germany, 2 launchers from the Netherlands
    Japan more than 192 launchers (MIM-104), more than 16 PAC-3 of its own licensed production

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%8D%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%82
    1. +1
      26 January 2024 00: 06
      Why are you telling me the number of launchers in these countries? I studied in Gorelovo when they put it on the database in the States. Everywhere we are talking about COMPLEXES - read more carefully.

      The US Patriot anti-aircraft missile system includes 36 Patriot PAC-3 missile launchers (9 batteries of 4 launchers each), 288 Patriot PAC-3 missile launchers, 216 GEM-T missiles with improved guidance, 10 sets of radars with phased array, 10 target acquisition control stations.
  37. -1
    26 January 2024 08: 13
    It’s amazing, I thought, having behaved with the Gay Europeans, the Ukrainians have reached unprecedented heights in treachery and dishonor, and there is nowhere to fall further, the bottom is already.
    But the bottom turned out to be broken.
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  39. 0
    26 January 2024 12: 08
    Quote: Mikhail 68
    And the death of the Russian guys

    And who and what punishment suffered for the shooting down of the Il-24M air control post of the Russian Aerospace Forces on June 2023, 22 by fighters of the Wagner PMC in the Voronezh region?
    1. -5
      26 January 2024 14: 41
      Do you really believe that this whole story with Wagner’s “rebellion” is not a staged “performance”?
  40. 0
    27 January 2024 23: 53
    If they named the area where the launchers were located, it turns out that the missiles were discovered, but for some reason they did not have time to take any action.