Expert: US Navy aircraft carriers have lost their combat power over three decades

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Many people know that the basis of the American surface fleet, its main striking force, are AUGs led by nuclear aircraft carriers. However, few people know that the modern air wings of US Navy aircraft carriers are inferior in their striking power even to the air wings of the ancient Midway-class aircraft carriers as of 1990, which were designed back in the 40s of the twentieth century and served for almost 50 years. This was reported by Russian expert Ilya Kramnik, who on January 14 reported details on his Telegram channel.

The expert noted that striking power means “the ability to deliver n kg of ammunition over a distance s in time t.” And this situation that arose with American aircraft carriers is explained quite simply. The thing is that in 1997, the US Navy decommissioned the all-weather carrier-based attack aircraft-bomber Grumman A-6 Intruder, created in the late 50s and early 60s of the twentieth century.



Expert: US Navy aircraft carriers have lost their combat power over three decades

Grumman A-6 Intruder and Grumman F-14 Tomcat in the background

The five combat squadrons that Midway carried on its most recent deployments included two squadrons of Intruders. What is "Intruder"? To put it simply, the Intruder will carry 750 tons of bombs 4,6 km from the aircraft carrier, while the Super Hornet will carry two. At 1500 km, the Intruder will carry a ton, while the Super Hornet will carry two short-range air-to-air missiles over this distance, and that’s all. With refueling, the Intruder can travel 2000 km from a ton of load; the Super Hornet will need at least two refuelings for this, and three for reliability.

- he specified.

Moreover, refueling is a completely separate issue. The ancient "Midway", having on board 8 units of KA-6D (converted into an air tanker "tired" Intruder), could independently send two successive waves of 2000 units of A-8E and a pair of electronic warfare aircraft Grumman EA-6 "Prowler" over 6 km (Prowler) in each. This is impossible for aircraft carriers such as Nimitz or Ford, without the involvement of KC-10 or KC-135 air tankers for multi-stage refueling. This is how the Americans ensured the operation of their carrier-based aircraft over Afghanistan. Moreover technological progress could not compensate for all this.

If the Intruders had survived to this day in the A-6F or A-6G variants, they too would have had this entire set, including JDAM and JASSM, which would still be able to deliver in greater numbers over greater distances

- he added.

Kramnik noted that the Grumman A-6 Intruder was better suited for the role of a specialized attack aircraft than the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. The Intruder, although optimized for subsonic speeds and not designed for air combat, could carry more fuel and consume less, which gave it superiority in flight range and payload.

And if the Nimitz is compared not with the Midway, but with itself in 1990, then interesting things will be revealed in terms of long-range air defense capabilities - the boundaries and the number of weapons at these boundaries of decommissioned Tomcats and available Super Hornets and The F-35 differs not at all in favor of the latter two, and in terms of anti-submarine warfare - after the departure of the S-3 Viking, American aircraft carriers lost the ability to independently provide long-range anti-submarine defense. To do this, you can call Poseidon from the shore, but it is not part of either the air wing or the AUG, and in general may have other tasks than supporting the AUG. Possibly higher priority

- he stressed.

The expert concluded that all this would not be scary for the US Navy if its aircraft carriers had to continue to perform tasks such as supporting troops in Afghanistan.
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  1. 0
    14 January 2024 21: 52
    if Kramnik is right, then the Americans are stupid, otherwise the situation in the Russian Federation is even worse, carrier-based anti-aircraft aircraft are represented by obviously short-range helicopters, escort ships for Kuze cannot be recruited at all, unless, of course, all the ships of the first third rank are assembled in the North, exposing the Pacific Fleet, a long voyage Russian AUG is impossible because there won’t be enough tankers and supply ships, much less a convoy for them, minesweepers are out of stock, the conclusion is to sell Kuzya, PLO aviation is over 30 years old, BE10 is not a flying boat, because it will fall apart upon splashdown from old age.... Meanwhile, the Americans are able to create an AUG from destroyers, and still bomb weak countries with their planes
    1. -2
      15 January 2024 06: 24
      You are twisting the facts, or to put it more bluntly, you are lying. To accompany an aircraft carrier both in the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet (hypothetically if there is an aircraft carrier), there are also ships and nuclear submarines that should be included in the AUG. There are forces and means to ensure that ships and boats go to sea.
      1. +1
        15 January 2024 08: 00
        if I were an admiral, I would not have sent Moscow (supposedly “the basis of the KUG air defense”) to certain death, submarines are not very suitable for accompanying the AUG because they do not have air defense, PMO and PLO, although they are useful in themselves, so you are going to accompany the AUG to TOFE with three old 1155 with almost no air defense and one ancient Moscow-class cruiser of dubious combat readiness? and add a single minesweeper there? that is, is it really possible to destroy the entire AUG with thousands of drugs? you are a criminal! you confuse peacetime when, for the sake of appearance, they form some kind of cardboard box to do meaningless but loud nonsense “go somewhere” and “show the flag” and real military operations and dangers from real missiles and torpedoes, a serious enemy with more than 600 modern warships and submarines and missile-carrying planes..... from sweet dreams you should return to reality, where they shoot and kill for real
    2. -1
      15 January 2024 19: 39
      Quote: vladimir1155
      Americans are capable of creating AUG from destroyers

      Masterpiece! However, I would look at the AUG from Berkov... How would they land on their aft platforms, well, let's say an F-35B... Possibly. But transporting, servicing, and arming them on berks would be very problematic. The Yankees definitely would not have agreed to such an experiment. Therefore, when you write, also use your head.
      AHA.
      1. 0
        15 January 2024 23: 43
        and the noose,...the old enemy is worse than the new two! alive alive smoking room! ......aug is created from an AB and escort ships, an AB is not an AUG in itself, an aircraft carrier strike group, that is, without destroyers, frigates or cruisers, it will not exist, but will be a lonely defenseless carcass of your favorite aircraft carrier
  2. 0
    14 January 2024 22: 59
    An armchair expert, perhaps?)
    Let's go further and compare a mosquito with a Kalash? The first one cost 15-20 rubles to produce, the second - 25 thousand. Oh how bad it is, the country has lost its industrial capabilities... Right?
    1. -1
      15 January 2024 11: 42
      An armchair expert, perhaps?)

      Are you talking about yourself? I guess so, sofa.

      And if you are talking about an expert from the material, then

      Ilya Kramnik is a research fellow at the Center for the Study of Strategic Planning at IMEMO named after E.M. Primakov Russian Academy of Sciences. Area of ​​scientific interests: Naval forces of the world, local conflicts, military-technical cooperation, military and naval history of modern and recent times.
  3. -6
    15 January 2024 03: 26
    Everyone says they are easy to destroy. But for this you need rockets. Aircraft carriers bomb those who do not have these missiles. Putin could hand over these missiles, but Putin will never do this.

    Therefore, aircraft carriers do not tank with their own armor, they tank at the expense of some in the presidential chairs.
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  5. +1
    15 January 2024 08: 49
    It's nothing.
    "Eksperd" is simply slyly silent about the fact that there were Air Forces in wartime (Cold War) and peacetime (show the flag and chase the bearded men).
    Putin's cunning plan will force the armed forces of all countries to tighten up.
  6. +1
    15 January 2024 13: 00
    The armchair expert still lived in 1990. Why does he need to know that what matters now is not the number of tons of suspended bombs, but the accuracy of their use. Those 2-4 tons of bombs, and also missiles on the Intruder, are compensated by the precision and high reliability of hitting targets now.
  7. 0
    15 January 2024 18: 22
    This was reported by Russian expert Ilya Kramnik, who on January 14 reported details on his Telegram channel.

    Ah, here it is! winked
    I hope we don’t have to check the accuracy of this “expert”’s judgment...
  8. 0
    6 February 2024 09: 05
    It’s in vain that the author opens the eyes of Americans. Let them rivet a dozen more aviation galoshes, they'd get some good stuff. Let them spend it, each product is an expensive large-caliber target for hypersonic missiles.
  9. 0
    15 February 2024 19: 50
    The result of commerce and may God grant them further profit is more important than the expediency and purpose and interests of the state and society...... The Gulag is not enough for them to be normal.
  10. 0
    25 February 2024 16: 25
    Well, stupid Americans (in the voice of Zadornov)! Then a whole expert from telegram saw through them, and they are pouring billions of dollars into their useless aircraft carriers. Behind them, according to the expert, the no less stupid Chinese, Turks and Japanese are building these “useless” colossuses. It would be a good idea to contact an expert from Telegram for advice.