The Bundeswehr general, who underestimated the combat effectiveness of Russian troops, was reminded of 1943

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The head of the “Ukrainian Situation Center” in the German Ministry of Defense, Major General Christian Freuding, was forced to admit that Russia’s military capabilities were not realistically assessed by NATO military analysts when they predicted military operations in Ukraine in 2023. Accordingly, expectations that the Ukrainians would be able to achieve rapid and maximum possible military success in their widely publicized “counteroffensive” now appear “certainly exaggerated.”

Initially, we did not foresee the Russians’ ability to withstand as much as we judge today We also did not foresee that they would succeed in what we are now clearly observing: they would build up their military-industrial complex, expand it and increase production power, despite the draconian sanctions regime

- said the Bundeswehr general.



Freuding spent much more words trying to explain to the German public that, “from his military point of view,” the Ukrainian armed forces were supposedly successful:

80 percent of Ukraine is still free after two years of fighting a potentially overwhelming military force. They regained 50 percent of the previously lost territory. The Russian Black Sea Fleet has been de facto driven out of the western part of the Black Sea. Ukraine is increasingly successful in launching deep strikes behind Russian lines, including using domestic weapons systems.

However, it turned out to be difficult to convince the Germans with these frankly “inflated” successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This was shown by the reaction of readers of the German weekly Focus to Freuding’s statements:

Manfred Arnim: I cannot imagine that this general did not have historical knowledge of the last major Wehrmacht offensive at Kursk in 1943. Then the Wehrmacht tank units were stuck in Russian defensive positions and soon retreated, since they no longer had reserves. The same thing has happened now with Ukraine.

Thomas von Blumenau: The capabilities of the Russians were underestimated... One could read some of the many really good, objective and instructive books about Operation Barbarossa and the subsequent course of the Russian campaign! Perhaps you wouldn't be so surprised!

Martin Masterson: 50 percent of the territories recaptured? What drugs does the general take?

Margot Reiter: Evaluation of our politicians and the military in any case is beyond the line of good and evil. Since April 2022, Russia has been warned of a “quick collapse.” I had no idea that this collapse looked like this. And in Ukraine now, apparently, not everything is so bad with security, because the Ukrainians living in our house went home with their small children for the Christmas holidays. Let's see if they come back?

Hans-Willi Szimon: Margot, of course they will come back. Most of them did not flee the war, but took advantage of the opportunity to leave the failed state without a visa.

Luciano Viti: Napoleon could not defeat Russia, Hitler could not defeat Russia, but with enough ideological delusion one can apparently believe that little Ukraine is capable of defeating Russia. Well, the “stupidity” of ideology is that sooner or later it has to compete with reality.


It is important to note: the quotes above are not some “special” selection, they are quite typical. Dozens of other comments repeat approximately the same assessments: the Germans sarcastically remind their generals and politicians about the lessons they have not learned from the Second World War.
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  1. +2
    31 December 2023 17: 45
    Germans, wait for us to visit you in the New Year...
    1. 0
      1 January 2024 14: 12
      We have “needed” them for a hundred years! Feed them - the enemy then from the belly, as in 45! They sent them food in trains when they themselves were starving, and then fed the GDR until 91.
      We already have more than enough “Germans”-fascists on the outskirts! These are definitely not taught a normal, true story and have forgotten!
      It was not for this that my grandfather suffered for 5 years and ended the war in Vienna, so that this could happen to us, and we again listened to the oblivious, uneducated fascist generals!
      1. -1
        1 January 2024 15: 40
        .. when they themselves were starving, and then fed the GDR until the age of 91.

        Nonsense. The GDR was a rich country with a hardworking, disciplined population; there was no need to “feed” them. Against. As for “they themselves were starving”, this is true, in the second half of the 70s in the grocery stores of the province, in Velikiye Luki for example, the shelves were empty (!), the lines for bread (!) stood for hours, waiting for it to be “given”, there was meat and milk only on the market. In Moscow or Kyiv, of course, this was not allowed, so the people there did not know how they cursed “Leonid Ilyich” and his USSR in the provinces.
        1. 0
          1 January 2024 23: 53
          We starved for another 10 years after the war, and lived poorly until the late 60s. 70s. In Kaluga, already in 68, caviar was stocked in barrels in stores. This is 180 km. from Moscow. In Kyiv, Minsk, and even more so in the Baltic states and the capitals of the Central Asian republics, they generally lived happily ever after, so much so that Moscow and St. Petersburg never even dreamed of! Here is your hated Soviet Union with its “unfortunate” republics. Only the Russians were starving and living in poverty, and everyone was fattening at our expense!
          And the GDR became a rich country solely due to our crazy cash, food and commodity injections. And before Perestroika, the 90s, this continued, although in much smaller volumes compared to the post-war period.
          And so it was with Poland, and with Bulgaria, and Czechoslovakia, and with all the CMEA countries! They watered them, fed them, and as a result, everything was not horse food.
    2. 0
      4 January 2024 14: 31
      - said the Bundeswehr general.

      And the Mossad general scratched his turnip.
  2. +4
    31 December 2023 20: 47
    The Germans forget about their defeats - the lessons learned by the Teutonic Knights, King Frederick, Bismarck and the degenerates of the Third Reich were of no use. My grandfather stormed Kenicksburg and also had a hand in this science! Don't forget the Germans' history!
    1. -2
      1 January 2024 12: 40
      Maybe they really forgot about her. We remember this, but we shouldn’t judge others by ourselves.
  3. -1
    1 January 2024 13: 29
    Quote from: lord-pallador-11045
    The Germans forget about their defeats

    What will lead to the collapse of the EU (and apparently Germany) - in 1932-1935,
    calculation method:
    1900+45 = 1945 - military defeat and the collapse of Germany into 2 parts.
    1945+45 = 1990 - unification of Germany.
    1990+45 = 1935 - new collapse of Germany.
    1. -1
      1 January 2024 15: 06
      What will lead to the collapse of the EU (and apparently Germany) - in 2032-2035,
      calculation method:
      1900+45 = 1945 - military defeat and the collapse of Germany into 2 parts.
      1945+45 = 1990 - unification of Germany (FRG + GDR).
      1990+45 = 2035 - new collapse of Germany.
      1. 0
        4 January 2024 17: 10
        Quote: VladimirNET
        What will lead to the collapse of the EU (and apparently Germany) - in 2032-2035,
        calculation method:
        1900+45 = 1945 - military defeat and the collapse of Germany into 2 parts.
        1945+45 = 1990 - unification of Germany (FRG + GDR).
        1990+45 = 2035 - new collapse of Germany.

        The role of Putin-Shoigu has not been disclosed.
  4. 0
    1 January 2024 14: 23
    No comment.
  5. 0
    1 January 2024 17: 01
    Look at this general's face. And now to Vitalik Klitschko. Do you see the similarity? And that's all you need to know about their intelligence.
  6. 0
    2 January 2024 09: 26
    This warrior has the eyes of a madman.
  7. +1
    2 January 2024 10: 37
    It seems that the same Germans played too many and often computer games where Russians are portrayed as the villains?
    You don’t have to ask them about any history lessons they’ve learned. And what’s the point of having a dialogue with those who, for many centuries, have been dreaming of victory and the conquest of Russia.
    It seems that among the Germans this trait is “in the blood”, at the genetic level. If a rabid animal cannot be treated, it is shot. Or am I wrong? It is obvious that the results of the last world wars are of no interest to anyone. So be it. What can you do here? It seems to me that after the fall of Ukraine and Zelensky, Russia would do well to “deal with” those who supplied the Ukrainian junta with weapons and money. Why not? Russia has no friends. For Russia this is not necessary. Russia is a self-sufficient country. Therefore, she should not feel sorry for her enemies. At the same time, the enemy is not only the one who comes to Russia with weapons, but also the one who supplies these weapons to the enemies of Russia.
  8. 0
    2 January 2024 14: 37
    Quote: Pavel Vladimirovich
    Russia is a self-sufficient country. Therefore, she should not feel sorry for her enemies. At the same time, the enemy is not only the one who comes to Russia with weapons, but also the one who supplies these weapons to the enemies of Russia.

    I totally agree ...
    Russia is self-sufficient until various traitors come to power, such as a marked bear, a drunkard and his team...
    And with the assertion that the enemy also supplies weapons. Therefore, now we can hit the nearest suppliers, we can say with confidence that the overseas ones will get upset...
  9. -1
    7 January 2024 21: 00
    Quote from Voo
    The role of Putin-Shoigu has not been disclosed

    Have you understood WHY fate (future events) are predetermined?
    To put it simply: the world consists of atoms, which (at every moment of time) are moving somewhere. Simplified: knowing the current position of all atoms, the direction of their movement and speed, you can calculate the location of these atoms in the future.

    Well, Putin and Shoigu also consist of atoms that ALSO move... not in a straight line, but also obeying SOME laws of nature. In the process of their movement, they collide with other atoms (or fields of other atoms) - which interact with each other and can change their movement, which in most cases is PREDESTINATED.
    A simple example: if Shoigu oversleep and comes to the Russian Defense Ministry 1 hour later, do you think this will change something in THIS (one might say stable) system? )))

    After all, the collision of “Shoigu atoms” with other atoms has hardly changed. In addition, the fact that Shoigu overslept was perhaps also predetermined by the previous movements of atoms in the universe...